Letters being sent out to streamers in advance of the reveal
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✭✭✭✭✭Who knows. Maybe a war of the wizards will see both Telvannis and Winterhold after the same thing?
That thought did occur to me. A literal interpretation of "two worlds" may be incorrect. It could be two mutually exclusive philosophies, both on Nirn. I didn't consider Telvanni mages vs Winterhold mages, though. The only issue here is that ZOS does not let us choose sides. There is the "bad guy" side, and then the side we are on, the "good" side. If they do something like this, we won't get to pick Telvanni or Winterhold. More of that decision-by-writer stuff would make me an unhappy Elsonso.Edited by Elsonso on January 19, 2023 1:36PM7 -
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✭Who knows. Maybe a war of the wizards will see both Telvannis and Winterhold after the same thing?
This thought actually crossed my mind as well. It would be amazing and ambitious. It’s something that could play out over the course of the next few years, I don’t want to get my hopes up.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Who knows. Maybe a war of the wizards will see both Telvannis and Winterhold after the same thing?
This thought actually crossed my mind as well. It would be amazing and ambitious. It’s something that could play out over the course of the next few years, I don’t want to get my hopes up.
Since when are Nords known for having any great magical tradition? Sure, there are powerful Nord wizards, as there are of every race, but as far as I know, the Altmer and Dunmer are strongest in magical traditions and delving into arcane lore (whereas it seems the Bretons have a natural affinity for magic, but culturally not so much, perhaps because of history, or perhaps I am mistaken).2 -
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✭✭All this Telvanni talk is making me want a Divayth Fyr chapter.
Maybe we can even meet Yagrum Bagarn although I don't know the time lines involved with all that. Not sure when he returned but it would be before corprus disease I'm assuming.0 -
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✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »I see we're saving the world for the...oh, what are we up to now...fourth or fifth time?
As long as there's a compelling story I don't care whether we're saving the universe or the neighbour's cat.
I would love a questline to save the neighbor's cat tho.PC - NACP 1125
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Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
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Who could be powerful enough to be a danger to Hermaeus Mora? Is any mortal capable of that, or only another Daedric Prince? If it's the latter, the traditional opponent is Vaermina the Dreamweaver, as was pointed out correctly, which also fits the description about the "the thread that keeps reality itself from unraveling".
Miraak?
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MerguezMan✭✭✭✭Hum... aren't you guys being a bit overinterpretative ?
Because the letter has an hidden symbol revealed under black light, the chapter would obviously set in Blacklight ?
As far as we know, 2023's feature could be an accurate version of Tamriel's map
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Who could be powerful enough to be a danger to Hermaeus Mora? Is any mortal capable of that, or only another Daedric Prince? If it's the latter, the traditional opponent is Vaermina the Dreamweaver, as was pointed out correctly, which also fits the description about the "the thread that keeps reality itself from unraveling".
Miraak?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Miraak
Oh, I like the idea of Miraak trying to influence us from Apocrypha under the guise of being Hermaeus Mora. In an attempt to use us to help him break out of his imprisonment. Maybe the dragons returning to Elswry made him think we'd be sympathetic to his cause. And our conflict ends up being Miraak V Mora.
(It's all way too close to being the plot of Dragonborn DLC, so I doubt it would be the case though)3 -
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✭Araneae6537 wrote: »Who knows. Maybe a war of the wizards will see both Telvannis and Winterhold after the same thing?
This thought actually crossed my mind as well. It would be amazing and ambitious. It’s something that could play out over the course of the next few years, I don’t want to get my hopes up.
Since when are Nords known for having any great magical tradition? Sure, there are powerful Nord wizards, as there are of every race, but as far as I know, the Altmer and Dunmer are strongest in magical traditions and delving into arcane lore (whereas it seems the Bretons have a natural affinity for magic, but culturally not so much, perhaps because of history, or perhaps I am mistaken).
The Nords have been portrayed as distrusting of magic and mages culturally in games like Skyrim. That does not does exclude them from being adept in the arcane arts. There are numerous examples of nord Magee and there have been Nords with the prowess to rival any mortal from a magical perspective.1 -
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✭Can't wait for the big mystery reveal on the 25th " hey guys it's Hermaus Mora yeaaaar! I bet you didn't get it!!! Lolz"
Anyway! All I know it better have Spellcrafting, a new class, a new race or racials customization and of course a Nereid and Goblin companions!!!PC/DC/NAserver
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✭✭✭✭✭Araneae6537 wrote: »Who knows. Maybe a war of the wizards will see both Telvannis and Winterhold after the same thing?
This thought actually crossed my mind as well. It would be amazing and ambitious. It’s something that could play out over the course of the next few years, I don’t want to get my hopes up.
Since when are Nords known for having any great magical tradition? Sure, there are powerful Nord wizards, as there are of every race, but as far as I know, the Altmer and Dunmer are strongest in magical traditions and delving into arcane lore (whereas it seems the Bretons have a natural affinity for magic, but culturally not so much, perhaps because of history, or perhaps I am mistaken).
The Nords have been portrayed as distrusting of magic and mages culturally in games like Skyrim. That does not does exclude them from being adept in the arcane arts. There are numerous examples of nord Magee and there have been Nords with the prowess to rival any mortal from a magical perspective.
Of course! As I said, individual Nords, as there are powerful mages of every race — there are always exceptions. But Nords as a whole are neither naturally nor culturally inclined to magic; I expect those inclined probably goes elsewhere to study, like the Mages Guild, or else are hedge mages. A Nord college of magic that could pose any threat to the Telvanni seems, IMHO, absurd.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MerguezMan wrote: »Hum... aren't you guys being a bit overinterpretative ?
Because the letter has an hidden symbol revealed under black light, the chapter would obviously set in Blacklight ?
As far as we know, 2023's feature could be an accurate version of Tamriel's map
I’m missing something — what does blacklight have to do with the accuracy of Tamriel’s map?0 -
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✭✭Araneae6537 wrote: »MerguezMan wrote: »Hum... aren't you guys being a bit overinterpretative ?
Because the letter has an hidden symbol revealed under black light, the chapter would obviously set in Blacklight ?
As far as we know, 2023's feature could be an accurate version of Tamriel's map
I’m missing something — what does blacklight have to do with the accuracy of Tamriel’s map?
Where the city of Blacklight should be located is currently being used by the Eastmarch zone on the ESO mapSoupy twist1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MerguezMan wrote: »Hum... aren't you guys being a bit overinterpretative ?
Because the letter has an hidden symbol revealed under black light, the chapter would obviously set in Blacklight ?
As far as we know, 2023's feature could be an accurate version of Tamriel's map
I agree about "Blacklight". That is a little too indirect for ZOS. It is enough that they included a hidden message. The means by which it is rendered visible is more likely to be available options for printing the letter, not a hint regarding location.
As I understand it, the printing revealed by the black light was faintly visible without it, and that is why they were looking to find out what it was. From what I heard. (I did not get a letter. I doubt they sent a letter to anyone outside of their stream team community. They certainly won't send one to a disgruntled and unpredictable forum person.
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✭✭✭✭✭Araneae6537 wrote: »Araneae6537 wrote: »Who knows. Maybe a war of the wizards will see both Telvannis and Winterhold after the same thing?
This thought actually crossed my mind as well. It would be amazing and ambitious. It’s something that could play out over the course of the next few years, I don’t want to get my hopes up.
Since when are Nords known for having any great magical tradition? Sure, there are powerful Nord wizards, as there are of every race, but as far as I know, the Altmer and Dunmer are strongest in magical traditions and delving into arcane lore (whereas it seems the Bretons have a natural affinity for magic, but culturally not so much, perhaps because of history, or perhaps I am mistaken).
The Nords have been portrayed as distrusting of magic and mages culturally in games like Skyrim. That does not does exclude them from being adept in the arcane arts. There are numerous examples of nord Magee and there have been Nords with the prowess to rival any mortal from a magical perspective.
Of course! As I said, individual Nords, as there are powerful mages of every race — there are always exceptions. But Nords as a whole are neither naturally nor culturally inclined to magic; I expect those inclined probably goes elsewhere to study, like the Mages Guild, or else are hedge mages. A Nord college of magic that could pose any threat to the Telvanni seems, IMHO, absurd.
Weren't they inclined to frost magic at the very least in Oblivion? Also having a magic shield on demand seems pretty interesting. Not even starting on the Voice or one of the most progressive colleges of magical study, dragon priest legacy etc., they're less of a power fantasy mages and more of a mysticism kind of peeps as far as I see their portrayal for tes.2 -
MerguezMan✭✭✭✭Araneae6537 wrote: »MerguezMan wrote: »Hum... aren't you guys being a bit overinterpretative ?
Because the letter has an hidden symbol revealed under black light, the chapter would obviously set in Blacklight ?
As far as we know, 2023's feature could be an accurate version of Tamriel's map
I’m missing something — what does blacklight have to do with the accuracy of Tamriel’s map?
Where the city of Blacklight should be located is currently being used by the Eastmarch zone on the ESO map
More details in this thread https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/584379/i-fixed-the-map-now-its-zoss-turn
And this one, more specifically on Blacklight https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/459005/end-the-tyranny-of-eastmarch-annual-request-to-fix-the-mapphantasmalD wrote: »
[EDIT] for some weird reason, the second thread link doesn't work, but you may find it with a simple search...Edited by MerguezMan on January 19, 2023 4:55PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Araneae6537 wrote: »MerguezMan wrote: »Hum... aren't you guys being a bit overinterpretative ?
Because the letter has an hidden symbol revealed under black light, the chapter would obviously set in Blacklight ?
As far as we know, 2023's feature could be an accurate version of Tamriel's map
I’m missing something — what does blacklight have to do with the accuracy of Tamriel’s map?
Where the city of Blacklight should be located is currently being used by the Eastmarch zone on the ESO map
Ahhh, thank you, I was not familiar with that one! I would suggest it possible that it wasn’t yet built (unless lore already says otherwise), but given the precedent of cities from MUCH later TES games already existing in ESO, often in astonishingly similar form, it would be quite reasonable to expect the Redoran capital from Arena to exist as well!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Araneae6537 wrote: »Araneae6537 wrote: »MerguezMan wrote: »Hum... aren't you guys being a bit overinterpretative ?
Because the letter has an hidden symbol revealed under black light, the chapter would obviously set in Blacklight ?
As far as we know, 2023's feature could be an accurate version of Tamriel's map
I’m missing something — what does blacklight have to do with the accuracy of Tamriel’s map?
Where the city of Blacklight should be located is currently being used by the Eastmarch zone on the ESO map
Ahhh, thank you, I was not familiar with that one! I would suggest it possible that it wasn’t yet built (unless lore already says otherwise), but given the precedent of cities from MUCH later TES games already existing in ESO, often in astonishingly similar form, it would be quite reasonable to expect the Redoran capital from Arena to exist as well!
The way ZOS explained it is that the maps are like the lore. They are subject to the whims of an unreliable narrator, so while they are "canon" they may not necessarily be an accurate reflection of reality.3 -
MajThorax✭✭✭✭✭DMuehlhausen wrote: »
I mean...basically TES games are saving Nirn from Daedra....
I admit even if defeat they should have a larger impact on the world. Like zones changed forever, or cities destroyed etc, but if you hate the "Save the world from a Daedric prince schtick" maybe don't play TES games.
This concept works just fine in single player games. But when I enter a game full of heroes of Nirn, I kinda feel weird. I would like for once to be no one. Just a soldier, talking part in a common cause that fails in the end. So I beg devs to give me a story, in which I actually hate a daedric prince for killing a bunch of npc friends.
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✭✭✭✭✭Araneae6537 wrote: »Araneae6537 wrote: »MerguezMan wrote: »Hum... aren't you guys being a bit overinterpretative ?
Because the letter has an hidden symbol revealed under black light, the chapter would obviously set in Blacklight ?
As far as we know, 2023's feature could be an accurate version of Tamriel's map
I’m missing something — what does blacklight have to do with the accuracy of Tamriel’s map?
Where the city of Blacklight should be located is currently being used by the Eastmarch zone on the ESO map
Ahhh, thank you, I was not familiar with that one! I would suggest it possible that it wasn’t yet built (unless lore already says otherwise), but given the precedent of cities from MUCH later TES games already existing in ESO, often in astonishingly similar form, it would be quite reasonable to expect the Redoran capital from Arena to exist as well!
Blacklight explicitly exists in ESO's time already on account of previous lore from TES5 and previous-Loremaster Lawrence Schick mentioning it in an interview. It's been bothering me a lot that the map has Eastmarch cover it up, so I am hoping that if it has to be Morrowind, it'll be Blacklight and the map gets fixed in the process.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.4 -
logan68✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »I see we're saving the world for the...oh, what are we up to now...fourth or fifth time?
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logan68✭✭✭Araneae6537 wrote: »Ooooh, Hermaeus Mora is one of the more interesting Daedric princes! ^^
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✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »I see we're saving the world for the...oh, what are we up to now...fourth or fifth time?
id love an expansion where the 3 banners war ended with winner holding the thrown
I doubt we get to the age of Tiber Septim during the course of ESO.3 -
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✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »I see we're saving the world for the...oh, what are we up to now...fourth or fifth time?
As long as there's a compelling story I don't care whether we're saving the universe or the neighbour's cat.
I would like a quest to save a neighborhood cat just saying...🤔3 -
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✭FeedbackOnly wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »I see we're saving the world for the...oh, what are we up to now...fourth or fifth time?
As long as there's a compelling story I don't care whether we're saving the universe or the neighbour's cat.
I would like a quest to save a neighborhood cat just saying...🤔
Wasn't that the main plot of Elsweyr?The Three Storm Sharks, episode 8 released on january the 8th.
One mer to rule them all,
one mer to find them,
One mer to bring them all
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✭✭Maybe we'll have Hermaeus Mora vs. Meridia, with Meridia being the antagonist this time
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Who could be powerful enough to be a danger to Hermaeus Mora? Is any mortal capable of that, or only another Daedric Prince? If it's the latter, the traditional opponent is Vaermina the Dreamweaver, as was pointed out correctly, which also fits the description about the "the thread that keeps reality itself from unraveling".
Miraak?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Miraak
Lore says he was imprisoned by Hermaeus Mora and freed himself, after gaining knowledge and power for centuries, in the 4th era . So in my opinion it would be strange if he'd pose a severe threat to him already in the 2nd. I'd assume he's not powerful enough yet.Holycannoli wrote: »Maybe we can even meet Yagrum Bagarn although I don't know the time lines involved with all that. Not sure when he returned but it would be before corprus disease I'm assuming.
He's in Tamriel at the moment, still healthy and searching for hints on why his people disappeared.@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
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