idc if they want to change the spear model, but wth is the wobbly crap at the end. i'm jabbing, not waving around a floppy noodle.
I seem to be in the minority here, but I absolutely HATED the old "jabs" animation. So glad they changed it.
Same for Flurry...
ClevaTreva wrote: »So... for those who don't mind the animation but hate the nerf; what are ppl using to replace jabs/sweeps?
Crimsonwolf666 wrote: »As a Pvper...templars need a slow animation on these damn jabs....it still doesn't stop the most top teir of Templar Pvpers, but now the regular smoh can't overwhelm other experienced classes via just jabbing. Jabs...honestly was one of the few morphs that needed to be nerfed for Pvp...my PVE templar has NO problems main land and for trials, WBs, or arenas. Just PVP templars seem to hate it most.
gariondavey wrote: »
To reiterate, only using jabs has never had the ability to kill experienced players. Ever. Experienced players, like in the videos linked have always been able to deal with jabs.
Dem_kitkats1 wrote: »
I can sympathize though, Templar was completely gutted, unnecessarily, the last couple of patches.
Not only does it look horrible, but using a vampiric motif for a skill from the AEDRIC Spear skill line is just nonsensical. Please give more care and attention to the world your game takes place in, ZOS.
SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »I seem to be in the minority here, but I absolutely HATED the old "jabs" animation. So glad they changed it.
Same for Flurry...
I don't think 90% of us should suffer because 10% like the nighthollow stave animation instead of the original templar spear that matches all the other templar animations. The nighthollow stave for jabs doesn't even match all the other templar spear animations.
This is one of those changes that fits into the "what were they thinking?" category.
DocFrost72 wrote: »SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »I seem to be in the minority here, but I absolutely HATED the old "jabs" animation. So glad they changed it.
Same for Flurry...
I don't think 90% of us should suffer because 10% like the nighthollow stave animation instead of the original templar spear that matches all the other templar animations. The nighthollow stave for jabs doesn't even match all the other templar spear animations.
This is one of those changes that fits into the "what were they thinking?" category.
The original:
The redesign:
Like, have I been struck upside the head? Has my bell been rung? Has my brain been shocked with 10,000 volts? Have I swapped out my morning vitamins with crazy pills? Have I just straight up fallen into the backrooms?
The original is a low poly 1990s PS1 crash bandicoot looking pool noodle. I've not changed from this stance for months, and starting to think I'm absolutely bananas. How do people think the old one is better? Could you help explain it?
The original:
The redesign:
Like, have I been struck upside the head? Has my bell been rung? Has my brain been shocked with 10,000 volts? Have I swapped out my morning vitamins with crazy pills? Have I just straight up fallen into the backrooms?
The original is a low poly 1990s PS1 crash bandicoot looking pool noodle. I've not changed from this stance for months, and starting to think I'm absolutely bananas. How do people think the old one is better? Could you help explain it?
TechMaybeHic wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »I seem to be in the minority here, but I absolutely HATED the old "jabs" animation. So glad they changed it.
Same for Flurry...
I don't think 90% of us should suffer because 10% like the nighthollow stave animation instead of the original templar spear that matches all the other templar animations. The nighthollow stave for jabs doesn't even match all the other templar spear animations.
This is one of those changes that fits into the "what were they thinking?" category.
The original:
The redesign:
Like, have I been struck upside the head? Has my bell been rung? Has my brain been shocked with 10,000 volts? Have I swapped out my morning vitamins with crazy pills? Have I just straight up fallen into the backrooms?
The original is a low poly 1990s PS1 crash bandicoot looking pool noodle. I've not changed from this stance for months, and starting to think I'm absolutely bananas. How do people think the old one is better? Could you help explain it?
You don't look at the new and think how ridiculous it looks to be holding the spear so far forward?
LesserCircle wrote: »The original:
The redesign:
Like, have I been struck upside the head? Has my bell been rung? Has my brain been shocked with 10,000 volts? Have I swapped out my morning vitamins with crazy pills? Have I just straight up fallen into the backrooms?
The original is a low poly 1990s PS1 crash bandicoot looking pool noodle. I've not changed from this stance for months, and starting to think I'm absolutely bananas. How do people think the old one is better? Could you help explain it?
The original was a beam of light with an awesome fast animation.
The new one has a shovel animation with the nighthollow staff as a model lol.
DocFrost72 wrote: »SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »I seem to be in the minority here, but I absolutely HATED the old "jabs" animation. So glad they changed it.
Same for Flurry...
I don't think 90% of us should suffer because 10% like the nighthollow stave animation instead of the original templar spear that matches all the other templar animations. The nighthollow stave for jabs doesn't even match all the other templar spear animations.
This is one of those changes that fits into the "what were they thinking?" category.
The original:
The redesign:
Like, have I been struck upside the head? Has my bell been rung? Has my brain been shocked with 10,000 volts? Have I swapped out my morning vitamins with crazy pills? Have I just straight up fallen into the backrooms?
The original is a low poly 1990s PS1 crash bandicoot looking pool noodle. I've not changed from this stance for months, and starting to think I'm absolutely bananas. How do people think the old one is better? Could you help explain it?
DocFrost72 wrote: »SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »I seem to be in the minority here, but I absolutely HATED the old "jabs" animation. So glad they changed it.
Same for Flurry...
I don't think 90% of us should suffer because 10% like the nighthollow stave animation instead of the original templar spear that matches all the other templar animations. The nighthollow stave for jabs doesn't even match all the other templar spear animations.
This is one of those changes that fits into the "what were they thinking?" category.
The original:
The redesign:
Like, have I been struck upside the head? Has my bell been rung? Has my brain been shocked with 10,000 volts? Have I swapped out my morning vitamins with crazy pills? Have I just straight up fallen into the backrooms?
The original is a low poly 1990s PS1 crash bandicoot looking pool noodle. I've not changed from this stance for months, and starting to think I'm absolutely bananas. How do people think the old one is better? Could you help explain it?
Rogue_WolfESO wrote: »Undo all recent animation changes, and also while you're at it, restore all sets and mythic to their original release conditions pre-nerf.
Balance!
I have a theory.... mind you, it is circumstantial, at this point, but it is a theory.
My theory is that they are finally giving us something we have been asking to have, for a long time - a new weapon line, based on the spear.
My reasons....
I have noticed that I am seeing more spears on racks, and randomly .... maybe, though, I am just noticing things that were already there.
Change to Flurry --- to be more in line with non-spear weapons, and reduced from 5 hits to 4......
Change in the Templar jabs, and some other little details....
Now, if the spear line is a thing, it would probably have something like Flurry... and very likely, 4 hits, to be in line with Flurry..... and might be where the old jabs has gone.....
Two, the change to Jabs was right about in line with other remarks as to how far ahead the dev team is, when it comes to updates..... especially if we are getting the new weapon line in this coming year.....
I could be entirely wrong.... but it is a theory, and there is some stuff to support ...., I am hoping that is the case.
Auldwulfe
SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »I have a theory.... mind you, it is circumstantial, at this point, but it is a theory.
My theory is that they are finally giving us something we have been asking to have, for a long time - a new weapon line, based on the spear.
My reasons....
I have noticed that I am seeing more spears on racks, and randomly .... maybe, though, I am just noticing things that were already there.
Change to Flurry --- to be more in line with non-spear weapons, and reduced from 5 hits to 4......
Change in the Templar jabs, and some other little details....
Now, if the spear line is a thing, it would probably have something like Flurry... and very likely, 4 hits, to be in line with Flurry..... and might be where the old jabs has gone.....
Two, the change to Jabs was right about in line with other remarks as to how far ahead the dev team is, when it comes to updates..... especially if we are getting the new weapon line in this coming year.....
I could be entirely wrong.... but it is a theory, and there is some stuff to support ...., I am hoping that is the case.
Auldwulfe
Except the Jabs animation isn't a spear, it's a nighthollow staff; a 2 handed staff that has existed in the game since the nighthollow style motif was released several years ago. Jabs doesn't use a spear anymore, it uses a staff. The original animation could be called a spear. The new animation can't be called anything other than a staff, because that's what it is.
Why swing out the spear to the right and stomp the foot on the last hit? I try not to notice the animation.
Disclosure: I didn't like the old one either.
DocFrost72 wrote: »SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »I seem to be in the minority here, but I absolutely HATED the old "jabs" animation. So glad they changed it.
Same for Flurry...
I don't think 90% of us should suffer because 10% like the nighthollow stave animation instead of the original templar spear that matches all the other templar animations. The nighthollow stave for jabs doesn't even match all the other templar spear animations.
This is one of those changes that fits into the "what were they thinking?" category.
The original:
The redesign:
Like, have I been struck upside the head? Has my bell been rung? Has my brain been shocked with 10,000 volts? Have I swapped out my morning vitamins with crazy pills? Have I just straight up fallen into the backrooms?
The original is a low poly 1990s PS1 crash bandicoot looking pool noodle. I've not changed from this stance for months, and starting to think I'm absolutely bananas. How do people think the old one is better? Could you help explain it?
But again, this is one change right? I can just imagine what else they're planning to do and I've thought about it and if they keep pulling this crap they can count me out to.