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Jabs...old vs. new

Hämähäkki
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Little Poll here:
I am just curious how many people want the old animation back.
TherealHämähäkki

Jabs...old vs. new 602 votes

The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
70%
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The new animation is cool, keep it that way!
12%
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I don't care
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  • Hämähäkki
    Hämähäkki
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    I start. I hate it, bring back the old one please.
    TherealHämähäkki
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    I tried it on my templar today, it just looks so...weird.
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  • eovogtb16_ESO
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    The new or old animation doesnt really matter either. It's literally not worth even slotting it on your bar anymore because it does no damage. You're better off just spamming blazing spear.
  • Ratzkifal
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    Why couldn't they have left it at 4 hits but nerfed the damage accordingly? Sure, the balance patch sucks and Templars have been nerfed too hard (Spear Shards are a better spammable lol), but I don't get why the animation had to change so drastically. Couldn't they have sped it up if they so desperately wanted jabs to last 0.8 seconds?
    Same goes for Rapid Strikes, that one barely qualifies as "telegraphed" because it looks so nonthreatening for a spammable.
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • Danikat
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    I don't care
    It looks weird to me, but I had the same thing when my other MMO changed an attack animation, hated it at first, then got used to it, now when I see the old one in videos that looks weird to me. I assume the same will happen with this one.
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  • VampiricByNature
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    I don't care
    I have 3 templars but to be honest I barely get to play them. I'm a pve'r and they barely even want 1 templar in content these days and it can be easily covered by a healer.

    No matter what the animation looks like, I probably won't even get to play on it to be annoyed one way or the other.
  • xthrshx
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    For me, the jabs animation is the worst thing to come out of this patch. Sure, the nerfs make the skill unusable trash, but at least there’s hope that will be corrected in the future. Any time I even consider sticking with this game, I just remember the terrible jabs animation and how it has destroyed my favorite character. I cannot tell you how much I hate this animation.
  • rexagamemnon
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    Im more concerned about the nerf to puncturing sweeps. They buffed jabs(stam morph) and nerfed sweeps(mag morph). They were already balanced they didnt need a buff or nerf, stam gave bonus to damage due passive activation within the skill, and sweeps instead of a damage buff it had healing. Now zos has widened the gap between stam and mag performance. ZOS has completely destroyed melee magplar builds now.
  • shadyjane62
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    Won't use it even in the deepest darkest place in the game where no one could see me.

    It is so bad I feel I cannot play or be anything but a drag on my group. I went into Cyro last night because my team assured me it would be all right.

    It's not. If not with an overpoweringly good bunch of people I would have been a less than productive member of the group.

    Thank you Zos for making me feel worthless.
  • Kiyonami
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    It's time to say goodbye my magplar. The changes are terrible.
  • Dem_kitkats1
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    The new animation is cool, keep it that way!
    The old animation made toons look like they were spasming with light tbh.
    Edited by Dem_kitkats1 on August 23, 2022 2:15PM
  • TechMaybeHic
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    At first I was not bothered by the animation, but trying to use it, it feels floaty. Damage numbers fly up but it looks like the spear doesn't reach that far. The audio queue seems off. And add that to the nerfs, its just not fun to play.
  • Fata1moose
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    New animation is OK could use some refinement but the new model needs changing, the spearhead looks like a shovel
  • Sarannah
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    I don't care
    I'm more used to the old animation, yet have no issues with the new one. But ZOS should fix the new animation so that it lines up with the actual hits. Right now it just feels strange.
  • Captain_Devildog
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    The most toxic change ever!
  • Lugaldu
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    I don't care
    Can someone please post a before-after picture for comparison?
  • TaSheen
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    I don't care
    I don't play Templar enough to care. Also I don't pay any attention to animations.
    Edited by TaSheen on August 23, 2022 2:54PM
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  • TechMaybeHic
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    Before
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    After
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  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    The old jabs was our identity. We have been using it for over 8 years. There was also absolutely no reason to change both the look and the sound of jabs. They could have just changed the animation and left everything else alone. When using the original animation my jabs focused on a concentrated spot straight in front of me. The new animation just swings wildly all over the place and I don't feel like I can truly aim at anything. This is a sad day for Templars. :'(

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  • Vahndamme
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    The current animation looks like you're shoveling dirt rofl. The twist is horrible and the motif is horrible too. It's so big also.
  • Necrotech_Master
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    I don't care
    after testing it some last night, i think the animation flow looks a little smoother, but im not entirely happy with the look of the spear, if your just going to copy/paste one of the motif styles then let us just custom style it so we can make it looks how we prefer (or if thats not possible just change the spear back to the original, the rest of the animation i think is fine)
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  • dinokstrunz
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    It looks horrible. Nobody asked for this.
  • Mordredmoth
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    Its not only ugli AF, it feels clumsy, slow and weird, but also far weaker (Magika Version), its no loger fun to use and broke my playstyle, this is not a good change and we, as a comunity should make zenimax notice this.
  • Galiferno
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    Not only does it look horrible, but using a vampiric motif for a skill from the AEDRIC Spear skill line is just nonsensical. Please give more care and attention to the world your game takes place in, ZOS.
  • SaffronCitrusflower
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    If you mained templar you are now trying to figure out what class you're going to have to switch to if you want to keep playing ESO.
  • Oakenaxe
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    Galiferno wrote: »
    Not only does it look horrible, but using a vampiric motif for a skill from the AEDRIC Spear skill line is just nonsensical. Please give more care and attention to the world your game takes place in, ZOS.

    This right here is my problem with the new animation. I second the last phrase: Please give more care and attention to the world your game takes place in, ZOS.
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  • Veesk
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    I cannot stand the new animation, it looks so clunky and awkward and kinda silly honestly. The old animation felt better, more aggressive and your character held a spear more accurately. I just want to go back to the old animation with 4 jabs.
  • Roztlin45
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    This animation change is pure garbage. I don't mind change if it adds value but this one adds frustration.
  • DerAlleinTiger
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    The old animation was just so much smoother and better... animated! Just watch your character with the new one. Just watch them. It's like they have steel rods in their back and they're just twitching around. There's no smoothness, no natural movements. They're like an animatronic. How are animations from 2014 smoother than animations from 2022?

    That's not even getting into the actual spear movements themselves, which are simultaneously way too slow and way too janky and twitchy. I don't know how you make something but too slow and too twitchy, but somehow you did. They're so slow it doesn't feel like you're actually hitting anything, but instead... well, as someone else put it better than I could, sweeping a spider away with a broom, only it's over the enemy's shoulder. It swings so wide I can't aim it right, and given the way the skill works you have to aim it instead of locking onto a target.

    The spear not only doesn't fit the theme at all but is also way, way too large which only amplifies the issue with the animation being way too slow and wide so that it just feels like you're not hitting anything at all.

    This has single-handedly destroyed my enjoyment of the templar class, which until now as my single most-played class in the game. I have 7 of them across two accounts. Now I'm barely going to play any of them. Thanks, ZOS, for ruining one of the most iconic abilities in your game for absolutely no reason when absolutely no one asked you to.

    I could take or leave the nerfs, but ESO's combat relies on its animations to feel natural, smooth, and IMPACTFUL. That has always been its biggest draw, is that the combat actually feels impactful unlike the rest of the TES franchise. That's completely gone now for one of your most popular classes. What an utter disgrace.
  • xthrshx
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    The new animation is horrible, bring back the old one!
    If you mained templar you are now trying to figure out what class you're going to have to switch to if you want to keep playing ESO.

    I canceled my ESO+ subscription and have stopped spending any money on the game. My interest in playing has been dying since this patch was announced and this trash animation was made public. It’s probably not too long before I abandon the game altogether and it is 100% because they destroyed my main character. The jabs animation is an enormous part of that.
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