What happened to Craglorn trials groups?

Fariahni

I might just have really bad luck, but I have had a really rough time finding normal trials through Craglorn. I have always been able to pop over to Craglorn and find a trial group, but it's been so quiet lately, so I was wondering what's happened to a lot of the people who would normally be doing trials at all times of the day. They seem to just be gone now?

Gray_howling_parrot

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I don’t know what server you’re on but I play PS5-NA and it’s boomin all the time in Belkarth 🤷🏻‍♂️

AH93

I only do normal trials with my guild

I only ever do trials with my guild, never with pugs.

SimpleTea

I haven't run any trials before, but am interested in doing them. I just don't know how to get involved. When in Belkarth - I 'm on Xbox NA btw - how do I get involved in a trial group? I would like to run Cloudrest as I need gear from their for my build.

acastanza_ESO

I would suspect that the recent event that was hosted in Craglorn caused them to spin up an increased number of server shards for the zone diluting the people trying to pug trials. I don't know how responsive their system is to spinning down those shards once it's over but maybe not until the next maintenance?
Also, I don't know how common it is, but in the days immediately after an event, I tend to play a little less than normal. Maybe give it a couple days for people to get back in.

Fariahni

Thanks for the initial responses! I just want to clarify this is on PC-NA, so it might be a little quiet, but I was always able to find at least a couple groups even during the day. As I mentioned I've been looking for a few days, and throughout the event it even felt like people weren't really doing pickup groups for trials in Craglorn much which is why I'm curious what everyone's been up to.

Canperial35

SimpleTea wrote: »

I haven't run any trials before, but am interested in doing them. I just don't know how to get involved. When in Belkarth - I 'm on Xbox NA btw - how do I get involved in a trial group? I would like to run Cloudrest as I need gear from their for my build.

You can either use the zone chat saying 'dd/tank/healer lfg for normal/veteran cloudrest' or simply join a guild and get into a premade group for a specific trial.

SpacemanSpiff1

they're sleeping

SimpleTea

Thanks for the reply Canperial 35.

Gederic

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Update 35 patch notes happened.

redlink1979

Pertinent stuff you forgot to mention: Platform? Server?

JustAGoodPlayer

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I do not know. But we stop any trials and dunguans runs a year ago with one more nerf to us.

Even play some different game.

When players with 140 k DPS get no nerf but players with 100 k does - what is a point to do some thing?

Necrotech_Master

Gederic wrote: »

Update 35 patch notes happened.

this might have a lot to do with it too lol

redlink1979 wrote: »

Pertinent stuff you forgot to mention: Platform? Server?

they mention PC/NA

Soarora

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When Zeal of Zenithar started I noticed a lot less, if any, runs in zone. Actually I saw more people asking elsewhere, like Summerset. Then PTS happened and people are probably either over there parsing or taking a break. That’s my guess, anyway.

endgamesmug

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Its mostly vet trials being run out of crags these days, i havent needed any gear for awhile so havent bothered to stand around for a normal over there for a bit

LurgidBean

I'm on Xbox NA and I ported into Belkarth yesterday (Thurs 7/14) at 3:30pm EST and I was the only person there. Not a single other gamertag in sight. I also took screenshots because it was so spooky.

Also, it's taking much longer to fill normal trials during prime time, including ndsr(!) from zone, Craglorn & High Isle. I suspect the instances in High Isle are super tiny as our group of 12 was once split into 3 separate instances, even when travelling to each other which normally will force the same instance.

SimpleTea wrote: »

I haven't run any trials before, but am interested in doing them. I just don't know how to get involved. When in Belkarth - I 'm on Xbox NA btw - how do I get involved in a trial group? I would like to run Cloudrest as I need gear from their for my build.

Easiest way is to join a guild. Is @SimpleTea your GT? Not really into recruiting, but I'm in a smallish (200ppl) casual guild that enjoys running normal trials for fun & stickerbook, and could invite. We are adults, we have a sense of humor (R-rated but not vulgar) and think it's actually fun to help people get into content they've never done before! Idk if Cloudrest is on the horizon, but if you've never done a normal trial I'd encourage you to do one. Any of 'em. 12 people working together to complete a goal is a really cool thing to be a part of, irl and online!

EozZoe1989

people hate multiplaying ..
its sad world..
the new changes will help bring back multiplayers,, less damage instea dover powered people who can quickly dfeate everything .. wate peoples time by completing stuff before you even got there lol
the changes will help//
and of anything they should equal it by adding more skills to the skill bar..

colossalvoids

I don't do normal trials

Can't find normals interesting enough, only occasionally when it was a weekly or something but not now.

It's more dead recently as a lot of raiders put the game on hold in various ways, it's not that surprising.

Dagoth_Rac

Probably too many Craglorns. 100 pugs in 2 instances is still 50 pugs in each zone chat. 100 pugs in 12 instances is only like 8 per instance in zone chat. They ask, not enough bites, they leave. It could get better after next maintenance (on Monday?) as it might clear out all the seemingly excess instances of Craglorn left over from Zeal event.

vivisectvib16_ESO

Jaustink wrote: »

I don’t know what server you’re on but I play PS5-NA and it’s boomin all the time in Belkarth 🤷🏻‍♂️

It was a ghost town last night.

Broken23

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PCNA: Craglorn was very empty last night and today. I wanted to form a normal sunspire group to farm a lead, but nothing. This doesn't look good.

Clearly the reason has to do with the new patch. Please Zos, don't release the patch and also don't place leads in trials

Valion

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PC/EU: Same sad story.
Saturday evening, 19:00 o'clock, just a bunch of lost souls waiting for that train never to arrive...

I truely don't know what happened. First, I thought it was the event.
But by now, there should be more action going on again, right?

And I have high doubts about the PTS results keeping people from playing after all.

Grandchamp1989

I don't see many PUG trials on PC EU lately

redspecter23

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I will occasionally try to hop in a group for normal trials in Craglorn, but lately I've noticed a massive drop in the number of groups forming and for players actively looking for a group in zone chat there. Last night I was farming for about 2 hours in the zone and not a single pug group advertised in zone over the time frame. That would have been unheard of a few months ago.

SimonThesis

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They all disbanded after trying out the PTS.

Fischblut

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I rarely do trials at all. Last time I farmed normal Sunspire for some of missing set pieces during Elsweyr double drop event. Nowadays, I don't do trials at all. If everyone was like me, that would look like the screenshot in the original post all the time

I am simply too tired of nerfs and having to pay attention to every change to skill/gear; even having set collection book to fill is not good enough motivation nowadays

fred4

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

I would suspect that the recent event that was hosted in Craglorn caused them to spin up an increased number of server shards for the zone diluting the people trying to pug trials. I don't know how responsive their system is to spinning down those shards once it's over but maybe not until the next maintenance?
Also, I don't know how common it is, but in the days immediately after an event, I tend to play a little less than normal. Maybe give it a couple days for people to get back in.

I think this makes a lot of sense. PC EU here. LFM decreased to near zero on the first day of the event and hasn't recovered. The event predated the patch notes just a little.

morrowjen

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fred4 wrote: »

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

I would suspect that the recent event that was hosted in Craglorn caused them to spin up an increased number of server shards for the zone diluting the people trying to pug trials. I don't know how responsive their system is to spinning down those shards once it's over but maybe not until the next maintenance?
Also, I don't know how common it is, but in the days immediately after an event, I tend to play a little less than normal. Maybe give it a couple days for people to get back in.

I think this makes a lot of sense. PC EU here. LFM decreased to near zero on the first day of the event and hasn't recovered. The event predated the patch notes just a little.

I've had friends ask me whether or not it was even worth experimenting right now because the proposed changes are so big. Normally, folks would be enjoying oakensoul and the other new mythic builds and trying sets out and generally playing the content and with the new gear but folks don't want to do it only to find out it was a waste of time.

And when it comes to trials, rotations and builds are so important that practicing seems like a waste of time if we're moving to 20 second dots because it will more time spent that has to be unlearned. A lot of people are disheartened. They've worked hard to get where they are and they know the changes might mean that it was all for nothing.

Carcamongus

I went to Craglorn (PC/NA) after the event and found it strangely quiet, whereas before it was usually booming with trial chatter (and occasional silliness) almost at any time. Someone even remarked how dead the zone felt.

Dem_kitkats1

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I only do trials when there's specific gear I want to farm, there's events, or they are one of the weekly endeavor activities. Like other's have said, I find that players prefer to run trial groups with their guilds rather than PUGs.

It also depends on the time/day of the week it is. The game is also usually more quiet after an event, or when there's an upcoming patch. Especially when the upcoming patch includes numerous changes that are controversial, so players become annoyed, fatigued, or don't like the direction of the game so they play less, or not all until there is positive feedback. I do think that because it is also summer, post lockdowns, people are just playing less in general.

fred4

morrowjen wrote: »

fred4 wrote: »

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

I would suspect that the recent event that was hosted in Craglorn caused them to spin up an increased number of server shards for the zone diluting the people trying to pug trials. I don't know how responsive their system is to spinning down those shards once it's over but maybe not until the next maintenance?
Also, I don't know how common it is, but in the days immediately after an event, I tend to play a little less than normal. Maybe give it a couple days for people to get back in.

I think this makes a lot of sense. PC EU here. LFM decreased to near zero on the first day of the event and hasn't recovered. The event predated the patch notes just a little.

I've had friends ask me whether or not it was even worth experimenting right now because the proposed changes are so big. Normally, folks would be enjoying oakensoul and the other new mythic builds and trying sets out and generally playing the content and with the new gear but folks don't want to do it only to find out it was a waste of time.

And when it comes to trials, rotations and builds are so important that practicing seems like a waste of time if we're moving to 20 second dots because it will more time spent that has to be unlearned. A lot of people are disheartened. They've worked hard to get where they are and they know the changes might mean that it was all for nothing.

Yeah, I get that. On top of that Oakensoul is meta in PvP. Building for it was an interesting challenge at first, but it sucks up a lot of time and we know it will be nerfed. At the end of the day I don't like how it plays and what it does to the meta. I also find myself in a holding pattern.