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Arctic Blast is Bad. Real Bad.

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  • Mr_Stach
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    Like I remember at launch "Stamina Sorcerer" was just Weapon Skills. Zos essentially said Class Skills are magic and if you want to use Stamina, here's these weapons.

    That sucked ALOT
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    Like I remember at launch "Stamina Sorcerer" was just Weapon Skills. Zos essentially said Class Skills are magic and if you want to use Stamina, here's these weapons.

    That sucked ALOT

    Yeah. And while I'm glad they got a lot to fix that issue, magden hasn't recieved any new class damage skills despite only having 4 which is still the lowest of all of the classes
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  • Mr_Stach
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    I would 100% give up some utility for some nice Frosty Damage Abilities
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    I would 100% give up some utility for some nice Frosty Damage Abilities

    i would give up awful morphs that don't do anything for morphs that do something, but clearly zos doesn't really care much. because even though that was supposedly their goal, they didn't achieve this whatsoever and they didn't even target some of the biggest offenders of this on warden.
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  • Mr_Stach
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    Yeah I feel like Warden has especially dead morphs compared to other classes.
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    Yeah I feel like Warden has especially dead morphs compared to other classes.

    i'm honestly surprised they didn't even touch bursting vines or frozen retreat. like what? and not SCR?
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  • Mr_Stach
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    SCR is so annoying. In order to get max damage on it, you're outside the range of your Hardest hitting ability in Shalks. It's mind boggling
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    SCR is so annoying. In order to get max damage on it, you're outside the range of your Hardest hitting ability in Shalks. It's mind boggling

    Well, it's still within range, but definitely out of comfortable range. I don't understand why we have all of these conditions for our skills when other classes don't have to jump through hoops to stun, heal or use their damn spammable.
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  • Mr_Stach
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    I think they have a hard time coming up with unique things so they create hoops to jump through, if only there was a dedicated Warden community that constantly suggests change that are unique and within the realm of possibility......
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  • Mr_Stach
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    I mean look at Nunatak, all the time to make a Frost Monster Set and we get slippy Ice Floor
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    I mean look at Nunatak, all the time to make a Frost Monster Set and we get slippy Ice Floor

    Maybe and hopefully next patch. Or a mythic in q4?
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  • Mr_Stach
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    I dunno man, I think there has been so much feedback from us in this PTS, only thing that really received more is Oakensoul, if they don't at least address something from us this patch, I don't think they ever will.

    I'd love to be proven wrong, but that's what I'm seeing right now.
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    I dunno man, I think there has been so much feedback from us in this PTS, only thing that really received more is Oakensoul, if they don't at least address something from us this patch, I don't think they ever will.

    I'd love to be proven wrong, but that's what I'm seeing right now.

    same, i'd love to be proven wrong but next week is the last week of actual changes and they never really do anything big on those.
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  • Mr_Stach
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    Even if they just said, there's nothing at this time, at least they would be giving a response.

    Finger's are crossed, but I am still pumpin with my Stamden, so at least Warden DPS isn't completely useless.
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    Even if they just said, there's nothing at this time, at least they would be giving a response.

    Finger's are crossed, but I am still pumpin with my Stamden, so at least Warden DPS isn't completely useless.

    It's not that our dps is bad. It's not been bad for a long time. It's that we've lacked frost damage skill options for an extremely long time especially on our own class. That's as far as pve is concerned. As far as pvp goes? They haven't even listened to us at all in terms of us needing an offensive ranged stun and they just keep giving us reactive stuns that are fun for no-one to use or fight against. why do we have to jump through so many hoops to do what other classes don't even think twice about?
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  • joseayalac
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    Make frost mages great again!
  • MashmalloMan
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    joseayalac wrote: »
    Make frost mages great again!

    They were never great, at least not in this game.
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  • Mr_Stach
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    Make Frost Mages at least as good as the NPC Frost Mages!
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    Make Frost Mages at least as good as the NPC Frost Mages!

    I'd rather not fall over after 0.3s
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  • Mr_Stach
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    I was thinking more like having more frost spells and less fragile stuff.
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    I was thinking more like having more frost spells and less fragile stuff.

    Definitely. Though those ice projectile npcs in vMA definitely hurt.
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  • Mr_Stach
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    ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    I was thinking more like having more frost spells and less fragile stuff.

    Definitely. Though those ice projectile npcs in vMA definitely hurt.

    Yeah, on the subject on Frist Mage NPCs unlike what people think, their main Ice attack isn't the same as the Frost Staff light/heavy, it has a name: Ice Arrow.

    I'd definitely take an Ice Arrow Spell
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    I was thinking more like having more frost spells and less fragile stuff.

    Definitely. Though those ice projectile npcs in vMA definitely hurt.

    Yeah, on the subject on Frist Mage NPCs unlike what people think, their main Ice attack isn't the same as the Frost Staff light/heavy, it has a name: Ice Arrow.

    I'd definitely take an Ice Arrow Spell

    While I'm okay with having a great frost spammable in frost reach i do miss having a frost spammable for a melee build.
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  • Mr_Stach
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    I would love an Ice Knife Spammable, that would be dope

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  • joerginger
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    Why are there 396784737237832 threads about warden whatevers and none of them are closed? This is very annoying.
  • Mr_Stach
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    Compared to all the DK Nerf threads or the Oakensoul Threads? Or the "cLoAk ToO sTrOnG!!! PLZ NERF" posts?

    Also, if Zos would feel the itch to actually respond to our feedback, there would probably be less threads open
    Edited by Mr_Stach on May 13, 2022 9:56PM
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    Compared to all the DK Nerf threads or the Oakensoul Threads? Or the "cLoAk ToO sTrOnG!!! PLZ NERF" posts?

    Also, if Zos would feel the itch to actually respond to our feedback, there would probably be less threads open

    Yeah. this patch the only major community concern that hasn't been touched is the warden one.
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  • Mr_Stach
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    I mean the Arctic Blast change is a pretty major nerf but they've been radio silent despite the feedback. It's really bizarre
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Mr_Stach wrote: »
    I mean the Arctic Blast change is a pretty major nerf but they've been radio silent despite the feedback. It's really bizarre

    At this point there's like a 90% chance it's going live
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on May 15, 2022 3:08AM
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