The Elder Scrolls Online

The Gold Road Chapter – which includes the Scribing system – and Update 42 is now available to test on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/656454/

Do you like the vampire nerfs every patch?

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  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    Here are the changes that I believe would be the best...

    - Perfect Scion last 50% longer then Swarming Scion
    - Mist Form grants 50% speed and immunity to snares, Major Protection on the first morph. Health Drain on the second morph
    - Stage 2 grant unnatural movement (Lower Stages like 1 and 2 should be the weaker runaway and hide stages)
    - Stage 4 grant a Flat 300 weapon/spell damage buff (Higher Stages like 3 and 4 should be about Power)
    - Health Regeneration is increased by 100 points per stage up to 400 at the cost of receiving 3%/6%/9%/12% outside healing
    - Replace Blood Frenzy with a Gap Closer, Vanish then reappear as a Bat swarm at the targeted location dealing XXXX damage
  • divnyi
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    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    - Mist Form grants 50% speed and immunity to snares

    Like in raw stat, stackable with Major & Minor expedition? :|
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  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    - Mist Form grants 50% speed and immunity to snares

    Like in raw stat, stackable with Major & Minor expedition? :|

    Sure why not, there is still a speed cap in place you know and you cannot sprint in Mist Form anyway.
    Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on May 24, 2022 3:30PM
  • Vevvev
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    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    - Mist Form grants 50% speed and immunity to snares

    Like in raw stat, stackable with Major & Minor expedition? :|

    Sure why not, there is still a speed cap in place you know and you cannot sprint in Mist Form anyway.

    It used to do that but even higher speed, but it was taken away because of the fact it became too good at disengaging. Even though at the time it was a non-toggleable ability like cloak and you had to recast it.

    With Mistform now being a toggle we can't exactly give it unique speed boosts anymore. That just wouldn't be healthy for the game, but giving base Mistform minor expedition would be nice.
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    Vevvev wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    - Mist Form grants 50% speed and immunity to snares

    Like in raw stat, stackable with Major & Minor expedition? :|

    Sure why not, there is still a speed cap in place you know and you cannot sprint in Mist Form anyway.

    It used to do that but even higher speed, but it was taken away because of the fact it became too good at disengaging. Even though at the time it was a non-toggleable ability like cloak and you had to recast it.

    With Mistform now being a toggle we can't exactly give it unique speed boosts anymore. That just wouldn't be healthy for the game, but giving base Mistform minor expedition would be nice.

    Are you forgetting that in my version the damage resistance would only be 10% at maximum not 75%
  • Vevvev
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    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    Vevvev wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    - Mist Form grants 50% speed and immunity to snares

    Like in raw stat, stackable with Major & Minor expedition? :|

    Sure why not, there is still a speed cap in place you know and you cannot sprint in Mist Form anyway.

    It used to do that but even higher speed, but it was taken away because of the fact it became too good at disengaging. Even though at the time it was a non-toggleable ability like cloak and you had to recast it.

    With Mistform now being a toggle we can't exactly give it unique speed boosts anymore. That just wouldn't be healthy for the game, but giving base Mistform minor expedition would be nice.

    Are you forgetting that in my version the damage resistance would only be 10% at maximum not 75%

    .... Why? That's pretty low and the devs when they were looking at the Psijic Order passive were like "Okay, yeah, that's a bit too low" and boosted it to 30% there.
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
  • ccfeeling
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    That's how ZOS run the game .

    New chapter / DLC buffs vampires .

    Nerf vampires after sell .

    They can run it forever technically .
  • divnyi
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    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    Vevvev wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    - Mist Form grants 50% speed and immunity to snares

    Like in raw stat, stackable with Major & Minor expedition? :|

    Sure why not, there is still a speed cap in place you know and you cannot sprint in Mist Form anyway.

    It used to do that but even higher speed, but it was taken away because of the fact it became too good at disengaging. Even though at the time it was a non-toggleable ability like cloak and you had to recast it.

    With Mistform now being a toggle we can't exactly give it unique speed boosts anymore. That just wouldn't be healthy for the game, but giving base Mistform minor expedition would be nice.

    Are you forgetting that in my version the damage resistance would only be 10% at maximum not 75%

    Then it's just a worse sprint.
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  • Hescrow
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    Need to nerf also undeath passive up to 15% down from 30%. Game that need Time or money for having Big avantage and win in PvP is called pay to win.

    PS: Time is money
  • divnyi
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    @Hescrow what advantage are you talking about, vamp bite is free.
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  • Hescrow
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    divnyi wrote: »
    @Hescrow what advantage are you talking about, vamp bite is free.

    @divnyi Some players sell it and you Can buy it from crown store as well.
    Edited by Hescrow on May 25, 2022 10:33AM
  • Mr_Stach
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    But it's available free in game. If you buy a Vamp bite from Zos or a Player, that's incredibly stupid. There's tons of people who bite for free.

    Now buying the fully leveled line is another issue, but the bite itself is not pay to win, as it's available to all players at no cost.
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  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    Vevvev wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    Vevvev wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    - Mist Form grants 50% speed and immunity to snares

    Like in raw stat, stackable with Major & Minor expedition? :|

    Sure why not, there is still a speed cap in place you know and you cannot sprint in Mist Form anyway.

    It used to do that but even higher speed, but it was taken away because of the fact it became too good at disengaging. Even though at the time it was a non-toggleable ability like cloak and you had to recast it.

    With Mistform now being a toggle we can't exactly give it unique speed boosts anymore. That just wouldn't be healthy for the game, but giving base Mistform minor expedition would be nice.

    Are you forgetting that in my version the damage resistance would only be 10% at maximum not 75%

    .... Why? That's pretty low and the devs when they were looking at the Psijic Order passive were like "Okay, yeah, that's a bit too low" and boosted it to 30% there.

    The goal of this version would not be for tanking damage, that is what got it nerfed in the first place, the base morph would not grant any protection, just a huge speed buff and immunity to snares.
  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    Vevvev wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    - Mist Form grants 50% speed and immunity to snares

    Like in raw stat, stackable with Major & Minor expedition? :|

    Sure why not, there is still a speed cap in place you know and you cannot sprint in Mist Form anyway.

    It used to do that but even higher speed, but it was taken away because of the fact it became too good at disengaging. Even though at the time it was a non-toggleable ability like cloak and you had to recast it.

    With Mistform now being a toggle we can't exactly give it unique speed boosts anymore. That just wouldn't be healthy for the game, but giving base Mistform minor expedition would be nice.

    Are you forgetting that in my version the damage resistance would only be 10% at maximum not 75%

    Then it's just a worse sprint.

    Sprint does not make you immune to snares
  • divnyi
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    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    Vevvev wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    - Mist Form grants 50% speed and immunity to snares

    Like in raw stat, stackable with Major & Minor expedition? :|

    Sure why not, there is still a speed cap in place you know and you cannot sprint in Mist Form anyway.

    It used to do that but even higher speed, but it was taken away because of the fact it became too good at disengaging. Even though at the time it was a non-toggleable ability like cloak and you had to recast it.

    With Mistform now being a toggle we can't exactly give it unique speed boosts anymore. That just wouldn't be healthy for the game, but giving base Mistform minor expedition would be nice.

    Are you forgetting that in my version the damage resistance would only be 10% at maximum not 75%

    Then it's just a worse sprint.

    Sprint does not make you immune to snares

    Yes it does
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  • Vevvev
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    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    Vevvev wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    divnyi wrote: »
    TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
    - Mist Form grants 50% speed and immunity to snares

    Like in raw stat, stackable with Major & Minor expedition? :|

    Sure why not, there is still a speed cap in place you know and you cannot sprint in Mist Form anyway.

    It used to do that but even higher speed, but it was taken away because of the fact it became too good at disengaging. Even though at the time it was a non-toggleable ability like cloak and you had to recast it.

    With Mistform now being a toggle we can't exactly give it unique speed boosts anymore. That just wouldn't be healthy for the game, but giving base Mistform minor expedition would be nice.

    Are you forgetting that in my version the damage resistance would only be 10% at maximum not 75%

    Then it's just a worse sprint.

    Sprint does not make you immune to snares

    Yes it does

    Technically no... But with Race Against Time, yes.

    Race Against Time also costs less, more Magicka/Stamina efficient, and is a better damage dealer than the 300 weapon and spell damage after leaving Mistform at Stage 2+

    I'd rather have Mistform become a dash that leeches health (unlike Sorcerer's power which stuns/absorbs projectiles) than just another Movement speed ability covered already by the Psijic Order skill line.
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
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