Account-Wide Achievements IS COMING

Sheezabeast

Welp...[snip]...this is the low bar...[snip] Thanks. Hope ya all like having everything handed to you so easily.

[edited for bashing & baiting]

Norith_Gilheart_Flail

Thank you VERY much, from the bottom of my heart.

I can live with motifs' not being account wide, but the achievements side of thing means I now have the FREEDOM to change my main, and not be penalised further, outside of the mount training which still takes 6 months to max.

I am a huge fan of this change.

Theros

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

Theros wrote: »

How in the hell this can be a good thing for the game?
Now i can link my dd achivments from vKA and tell i win them in tank? lol! How good can this be for trials? its a RIP.

You could always do that. Respec your dd who got the achievement to tank, say you got it on tank. What does this change?

To tell you the true? I dont even care anymore!
Until some days ago, i organize 7 or 8 trials everyday in craglorn. But i got tired because to many fack achivments, and many players give up from "free trials" (i make other topic about that)
And now, ZoS give us more motives to make trials even worse... i really dont care anymore. I dont organize more trials and i dont go to them anymnore.
But i really hope, now things get better. lol!

Epona222

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

We're glad that we can bring account wide achievements to everyone! We'll have more details as we get closer.

We don't all want it - I want to know more details now before I spend money on pre-ordering a new chapter when I may not want to play the game any more.

This is very bad news for altoholics - game-ruining news.

tmbrinks

This change takes away from players to be able to re-play content on other classes or roles and get that feeling of accomplishment.

This change takes away from the roleplaying community who may not want certain titles/achievements on specific characters.

This change changes nothing for everybody else, because you could just figure out what you had done on your whole account (or if on PC, use an add-on to do it for you)

So, a sizable portion of the player base loses significantly in their game satisfaction.

Just add a global tab. See total account progress. Keep all characters separate. Don't overthink it.

(Most arguing for global achievements wanted it for research/motifs/etc... anyways, which isn't happening as they're tied to writ rewards)

@ZOS_Kevin please give this feedback to the appropriate teams.

Sheezabeast

The idea of all my characters having my Emperor title makes me angry. I worked so hard for it on my character I earned it on, I don't want my others to have it!! And for all my characters to share the same Alliance Rank too? What were they thinking????

stargazer69

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

stargazer69 wrote: »

And how can you get skyshard hunter unless they give all the shards as well?

They said some won't be account wide, skyshards was one of them, motifs was another, there were a few more.

Did they call out skyshards? I'll have watch again.

Epona222

tmbrinks wrote: »

This change takes away from players to be able to re-play content on other classes or roles and get that feeling of accomplishment.

This change takes away from the roleplaying community who may not want certain titles/achievements on specific characters.

This change changes nothing for everybody else, because you could just figure out what you had done on your whole account (or if on PC, use an add-on to do it for you)

So, a sizable portion of the player base loses significantly in their game satisfaction.

Just add a global tab. See total account progress. Keep all characters separate. Don't overthink it.

(Most arguing for global achievements wanted it for research/motifs/etc... anyways, which isn't happening as they're tied to writ rewards)

Aye indeed - the things is SHOULDN'T happen for are quest completion, in-game NPC guild (DB/TG stuff), fishing achievements - I want to re-do those things on other characters, that is the point of having other characters.

I want to be able to experience the game afresh with alts and earn those achievements again, otherwise there's no point.

xAKlMB0xSLlCEx

tmbrinks wrote: »

This change takes away from players to be able to re-play content on other classes or roles and get that feeling of accomplishment.

This change takes away from the roleplaying community who may not want certain titles/achievements on specific characters.

This change changes nothing for everybody else, because you could just figure out what you had done on your whole account (or if on PC, use an add-on to do it for you)

So, a sizable portion of the player base loses significantly in their game satisfaction.

Just add a global tab. See total account progress. Keep all characters separate. Don't overthink it.

(Most arguing for global achievements wanted it for research/motifs/etc... anyways, which isn't happening as they're tied to writ rewards)

@ZOS_Kevin please give this feedback to the appropriate teams.

I can't agree more. There is absolutely nothing (other than people wanting research, motifs, skyshards, etc. which isn't happened anyways) that needs to be account wide. It ruins a significant portion of the game for people who have most things completed already.

A global tab is a perfect middle ground to keep everyone satisfied

Qyrk

Just imagining those people with multiple Master Angler

Vaoh

For me this is the best part of the chapter reveal lol.

I have concerns though....
• Should titles be involved in this? I’m not so sure. Unlocking the achievements is fine but if kinda prefer if the titles themselves required the character to unlock them. Many endgame trifecta progression players are title hunters and will re-prog just for the title on a different character.
• There should be an option to view individual character achievements for those who like replaying content on different characters.

I’m very happy about account-wide achievements but I do think ZOS needs to consider these two points.

Tommy_The_Gun

Here is my take on it & how I read it:

ZOS was probably considering adding a class change token. But, instead they went the other route - lets make all achievement to be account wide.

^ That way they can still make room for new OP & P2W classes, because the argument of "playing through entire game again" - is now kinda squashed.

Class Balance will suffer greatly because of this imho. For example, I am pretty sure they will move some classes to more of a "casual" role, like sorc will be bis for farming materials & NB for doing Thieves Guild & Dark Brotherhood & justice activities. The other classes like Necro or Warden (or whatever unbalanced ZOS is going to add in the future) will be the main PvP or end game PvE classes.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Will it include motif achievements? I no longer play my original main and she is now my crafter. I would love to have the motifs learned by her on my new main.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

Epona222 wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

We're glad that we can bring account wide achievements to everyone! We'll have more details as we get closer.

We don't all want it - I want to know more details now before I spend money on pre-ordering a new chapter when I may not want to play the game any more.

This is very bad news for altoholics - game-ruining news.

Accout wide achievement are free as part of u33 in march

SirAxen

Epona222 wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I like doing achievements on different alts, so not a fan of this change.

This, I hate this change.

Wrecks the point of having alts that concentrate on different things.

That's hyperbole and a stretch, honestly.

tmbrinks

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Will it include motif achievements? I no longer play my original main and she is now my crafter. I would love to have the motifs learned by her on my new main.

No, those are expressly and explicitly NOT included.

Because they tie to writ rewards.

The thing most people wanted (or thought) would happen they won't get (for reasons that we've all stated for years in those threads)

But instead ZoS still makes the changes... effectively eliminating gameplay and immersion for a sizeable portion of their playerbase.

Oliviander

I already hate it

stargazer69

This really is half baked. The things that I'd like (but haven't discovered - lore books, motifs, skyshards) are excluded, but the things I want to track from a character progession perspective are gone? So, I can creat an alt with all the holiday titles earned without actualy doing anything?

As mentioned before, a global tracker would be good, but alts shouldn't be able to gain acheivements / titles that they haven't earned.

Crown_of_Antlers

My husband and I have left games in the past for this sort of thing. We both LIKE getting achievements on individual characters. I use the achievements to keep track of what my individual characters have done in different zones. We hate the set up of "if one character has done, they have ALL done it".

Give us a way to opt out of this. Let players have a choice so that those of us who like earning achievements on different characters are still able to do so.

AcadianPaladin

I'm very pleased to see it coming. I play the same elf as multiple 'characters'. In effect, she treats changing class/spec as casually as she does hairstyle or outfits. So account-wide achievements are very supportive of this.

I watched the reveal on this and it sounds like all titles and most achievements will be account-wide.
Exceptions were listed as runes, skyshards and motifs.
I fully imagine that achievements have nothing to do with leveling skill lines so each character will have to level up FG, MG, PvP, etc - which is totally fine by me.

Epona222

SirAxen wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I like doing achievements on different alts, so not a fan of this change.

This, I hate this change.

Wrecks the point of having alts that concentrate on different things.

That's hyperbole and a stretch, honestly.

No it isn't, you can't speak for my enjoyment of the game and how I like to play it.

heaven13

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

We're glad that we can bring account wide achievements to everyone! We'll have more details as we get closer.

We don't all want it - I want to know more details now before I spend money on pre-ordering a new chapter when I may not want to play the game any more.

This is very bad news for altoholics - game-ruining news.

Accout wide achievement are free as part of u33 in march

I think that's understood but people that really don't want this might stop playing entirely because they have no choice but this to be forced upon them so they just won't purchase the chapter and won't spend any more money on this game.

freespirit

My immediate thought is NO!!

I will wait and see the details though, the only things I can think of that might be ok are the Housing achievements....... saves having to take alts to every house and maybe the Trophies achievements cos they are a pain but the rest well just NO!

whitecrow

Now I have even less incentive to play my alt. characters.

This change makes zero sense.

Cirantille

This is great news
Now we can switch to different characters/classes based on our groups' needs without missing the achievements
It is also great that we will be recognised as a person behind the character not our just character alone
Thanks a lot for this

Indigogo

Very conflicted.
There's a lot I wanted account wide and there is some stuff I fiercely wanted character based.

One of the hugest rushes I've ever experienced in this game, or any other, is when I've emp pushed a toon, fought tooth and nail to get it and finally capped that last keep.
Now all my toons just got handed Former Emp?

That makes me very, very sad.

Csleia

this is gamebreaking, they did not think this through

Tandor

SirAxen wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I like doing achievements on different alts, so not a fan of this change.

This, I hate this change.

Wrecks the point of having alts that concentrate on different things.

That's hyperbole and a stretch, honestly.

No, it's very accurate for those of us who roll multiple characters in order to play the game fully with them as distinct individuals, as opposed to just rolling alts to rush them to endgame.

Lydawobbles

They said the full list would be in the patch notes Monday; yeah?

Castagere

I don't give a crap about achievements. I remember when MMO's didn't have them. It's something dragged over from consoles.