ESO PvP Update [Updated June 2022]

blktauna

Sadly, I still don't believe they are re-architecting anything

but on an up note I'm pretty sure the server upgrades will be imminent.

SaffronCitrusflower

And now it appears the Whitestrakes Mayhem event has been postponed until further notice as well.

PvP just keeps slipping away into the ether it seems.

How much longer is PvP going to exist in ESO?

malistorr

It seems like the whole game itself is slowly dying. The developer is probably moving resources to some other future game (I've seen lots of rumors and hearsay). There is less or worse content every year and literally nothing has been done for PVP in a long long time. My guess is they replace the servers and the recode never happens at all and eventually within a year or 2 the game dies and they use the hardware for something else. Or they're just renting space at Microsoft Azure and can easily repurpose the hardware for another game.

ProudMary

malistorr wrote: »

It seems like the whole game itself is slowly dying. The developer is probably moving resources to some other future game (I've seen lots of rumors and hearsay). There is less or worse content every year and literally nothing has been done for PVP in a long long time. My guess is they replace the servers and the recode never happens at all and eventually within a year or 2 the game dies and they use the hardware for something else. Or they're just renting space at Microsoft Azure and can easily repurpose the hardware for another game.

It seems like NefasQS was right on the money with his predictions for the future of ESO. That's why so many professional streamers are looking to other games to expand their horizons lately. Certainly the PvP aspect of ESO appears to be being phased out a little more every year, and 2023 is no exception.

Wolfkeks

Huh this post is not pinned anymore but we didn't get an update server or coding wise

SaffronCitrusflower

Wolfkeks wrote: »

Huh this post is not pinned anymore but we didn't get an update server or coding wise

It sure seems like they are trying to bury this topic. It's going to be up to us to keep the thread active now.

ACamaroGuy

I'm a PvE player. I just recently went into Cyrodiil to far transmutation geodes by getting to Tier 3. By doing this I had to get involved with large combat areas, defending keeps, etc. Holy crap...it's painful to play there. Lag on the screen, lag before any of your skills actually take effect, etc. Hats off to those who play PvP day in and day out. I have no idea how you put up with it.

malistorr

You can get 50 transmutes each month by getting your toons to tier 1. Nevermind the daily 4 for your 1st rewards of the worthy.

Jaraal

ACamaroGuy wrote: »

I'm a PvE player. I just recently went into Cyrodiil to far transmutation geodes by getting to Tier 3. By doing this I had to get involved with large combat areas, defending keeps, etc. Holy crap...it's painful to play there. Lag on the screen, lag before any of your skills actually take effect, etc. Hats off to those who play PvP day in and day out. I have no idea how you put up with it.

Yeah you only need Tier 1 for transmutes. But I like it there, so I get 10 characters to Tier 3 every month. And you are correct about the lag, crashes and bugs. It would be so much more fun if they fixed those things.

ACamaroGuy

Jaraal wrote: »

ACamaroGuy wrote: »

I'm a PvE player. I just recently went into Cyrodiil to far transmutation geodes by getting to Tier 3. By doing this I had to get involved with large combat areas, defending keeps, etc. Holy crap...it's painful to play there. Lag on the screen, lag before any of your skills actually take effect, etc. Hats off to those who play PvP day in and day out. I have no idea how you put up with it.

Yeah you only need Tier 1 for transmutes. But I like it there, so I get 10 characters to Tier 3 every month. And you are correct about the lag, crashes and bugs. It would be so much more fun if they fixed those things.

Tier 3 gets you 50 transmutations though or do all triers give you 50 now?

Jaraal

ACamaroGuy wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

ACamaroGuy wrote: »

I'm a PvE player. I just recently went into Cyrodiil to far transmutation geodes by getting to Tier 3. By doing this I had to get involved with large combat areas, defending keeps, etc. Holy crap...it's painful to play there. Lag on the screen, lag before any of your skills actually take effect, etc. Hats off to those who play PvP day in and day out. I have no idea how you put up with it.

Yeah you only need Tier 1 for transmutes. But I like it there, so I get 10 characters to Tier 3 every month. And you are correct about the lag, crashes and bugs. It would be so much more fun if they fixed those things.

Tier 3 gets you 50 transmutations though or do all triers give you 50 now?

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Campaigns

malistorr

I've always received 50 for tier 1 on PC and Xbox for years now. Granted I'm usually in the top 5 and the winning campaign so they helps. Looks like it says at the link above you get the 50 for tier 1 regardless.

ACamaroGuy

Jaraal wrote: »

ACamaroGuy wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

ACamaroGuy wrote: »

I'm a PvE player. I just recently went into Cyrodiil to far transmutation geodes by getting to Tier 3. By doing this I had to get involved with large combat areas, defending keeps, etc. Holy crap...it's painful to play there. Lag on the screen, lag before any of your skills actually take effect, etc. Hats off to those who play PvP day in and day out. I have no idea how you put up with it.

Yeah you only need Tier 1 for transmutes. But I like it there, so I get 10 characters to Tier 3 every month. And you are correct about the lag, crashes and bugs. It would be so much more fun if they fixed those things.

Tier 3 gets you 50 transmutations though or do all triers give you 50 now?

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Campaigns

No way! Wasn't there a time when each tier would give you a different amount? If so, that will tell you how long I go before going into Cyrodiil. Dang. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge with me. This will save me a bunch of time in the future.

malistorr

I know if you are in the top 2% or so of AP-earners for the winning campaign that month that you get the gold jewelry in addition to the purple jewelry (5 of each). And if you are in the top 10 players for the losing campaigns (I think) you get it as well. My toon that is in the top 10 of the winning campaign gets 100 crystals each month and the alt toons in tier 1 get 50. You get 4 per day just by getting around 13K AP and getting your 1 rewards of the worthy. That is really quick and easy to do.

UnabashedlyHonest

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Wolfkeks wrote: »

Huh this post is not pinned anymore but we didn't get an update server or coding wise

It sure seems like they are trying to bury this topic. It's going to be up to us to keep the thread active now.

Agree. We can't let this topic get buried now that they've unpinned this thread.

Unpinning this thread tells me that ZOS is no longer planning on following through with the OP's commitment to the player base.

Duke_Falcon

Elder Scroll's PVP is a unique game that has an edge over all other games in the market place because of its incredible diversity of play vs counter play. There is nothing like it. I was telling my friends last week if they could just make it play smoothly w/o bugs, they would make so much money just through the shear volume player retention.

Jammy420

Its kind of telling that this got unstickied.

TechMaybeHic

Yeah what's going on here?

LadyLavina

Jammy420 wrote: »

Its kind of telling that this got unstickied.

It's in the same vein of them burying all that "Hundreds of players on screen at once!" in pvp related pre-launch marketing material since that is absolutely not possible.

Also inb4 the inevitable "This is an old thread so we're locking it" nonsense, it's a relevant conversation because there was zero follow through.

Bring back @ZOS_Wrobel

coletas

"and we will give you periodic updates about the re-architecture progress over the course of the year."

My english dictionary must be wrong about "periodic" meaning Matt...

After another year waiting... Can u tell your customers when they will be able to play the game they payed? Before star citizen see the light?

ProudMary

Can we please get some official word on the status of this code re architecture project?

@ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_MattFiror

LarsS

You find the latest info about the code re-architecture In the studio directors end of the year message.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/63363

All new severs will go live late Feb/March.

Regarding the code this is the info in the message: "Our multi-threading work continues, as we announced a month or so back. Just to remind everyone, this is the initiative that will result in better overall server performance. As we already announced, we will be phasing these changes in over the course of 2023, starting with the Chapter in Q2."

blktauna

it was initially announced as a re-architecture. Ground up. "Multi-threading" work is maybe a small part of that? What is the status of that over arching project? How is the server testing going, is that on schedule?

" Matt Firor posted an ESO PVP Update talking about you were going to "rearchitect our server" - that you needed to "essentially rewrite some of the foundational server code" because it "should dramatically increase server performance", we should "expect this to take up much of 2022", and you would "give ... periodic updates about the re-architecture progress over the course of the year". "

That was Jan 2022, This comment describes September, where nothing had been updated yet.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7724196/#Comment_7724196

Extremely disappointing

coletas

Thats info?
For me that is THE excuse a father gives to his kid when he forgets his birthday every year.

No, what he said is this "and we will give you periodic updates about the re-architecture progress over the course of the year." on january 22, and what we got ==null on january 23.

Come on guys, they are working in the new AAA and just filling this piece of spaguetti code with the tools they have since years. There is no a SINGLE reason to think they have ANY progress to make ESO playable again. Some leaders, same gurus, same crappy database architecture with more opened bug tickets than anything in software world (even java lol), same excuses....

SaffronCitrusflower

LarsS wrote: »

You find the latest info about the code re-architecture In the studio directors end of the year message.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/63363

All new severs will go live late Feb/March.

Regarding the code this is the info in the message: "Our multi-threading work continues, as we announced a month or so back. Just to remind everyone, this is the initiative that will result in better overall server performance. As we already announced, we will be phasing these changes in over the course of 2023, starting with the Chapter in Q2."

So what's the problem with a ZOS representative updating this post in the official forums on the matter?

Why has this thread been unpinned and ignored by ZOS for about 8 months when they clearly stated we'd be getting regular updates on the issue?

Slicesym

I really wish we could get some clarity on why this post was unpinned or an update on what the status is on this. Kind of feels like its not going to happen and whats sickening is that they are hiding from it instead of standing tall on their shortcomings. Would be nice to see either some kind of update or some backbone. Whichever.

Jaraal

Slicesym wrote: »

I really wish we could get some clarity on why this post was unpinned

Well the answer is pretty clear considering that 1/3 of the front page is filled with Necrom feedback stickies. It's only logical that they would remove a thread about a neglected game mode to make room for their upcoming sales bonanza.

Duke_Falcon

I'm sure someone has already said this about the proposed Major Berserk being attached to Spam-able dps skills. Its a bad idea. Major Berserk is a very powerful buff, which I'd recommend keeping only on ults.

Thecompton73

Duke_Falcon wrote: »

I'm sure someone has already said this about the proposed Major Berserk being attached to Spam-able dps skills. Its a bad idea. Major Berserk is a very powerful buff, which I'd recommend keeping only on ults.

Is this the same @Duke_Falcon from Mashers Merciless Order guild?

ProudMary

It's good that they put a new pinned thread up about what's going on with MYM/Whitestrakes Mayehem. But they still haven't given us any updates on where they're at with the code rewrite/re architecture project, or to let us know if that project is even still happening or not.

So, where is ZOS at with the code reworking project?


@ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_MattFiror