ESO PvP Update [Updated June 2022]

TimeViewer

Were PvP servers removed/cut not sure if I'm just not seeing the posting, glitched, or what but I no longer see a number of the servers listed, Cyrodiil only has 4 and IC only has 2

joerginger

I guess what you see is simply that the extra campaigns that were added for the PvP event have now run out and have been switched off.

TimeViewer

I remember them being there prior to the event tho, After the event I had left my home campaign (100k gold) because I was considering changing to another, then I saw that all the other options were gone. I hadn't played in a bit being in Bethesda's other game and I couldn't find any posting about servers being removed so I figured I'd ask here

VaranisArano

Zabagad wrote: »

Xarc wrote: »

can we have more info about "increase XP in pvp area" ?

I'm surprised this is an issue for even a single PvP player
But anyway - from 8.1.0:

Increased XP granted from killing monsters and player characters in Cyrodiil and Imperial City by 10%.
Increased XP granted from completing quests in Cyrodiil, Imperial City and Battlegrounds by 10%.

Unironically, there are people who prefer to minimize their XP gains in the Below 50 Cyrodiil campaigns so they can use their character there for longer. There was also someone who successfully ranked up to Grand Overlord in the under 50 campaign by minimizing XP and maximizing AP.

I'm not saying that more XP is a bad thing (though for PVPers the XP gain is marginal compared to the efficient PVE grinds), just that there are some reasons why PVP players might not be universally rejoicing at the prospect.

For myself, more AP would've been the better reward, but I suppose the Devs don't want to step on Whitestrakes' Mayhem's toes too much. More XP is kind of "meh" what with the big XP holiday events coming up. But I'm one player and hopefully the folks who want more XP enjoy these bonuses in PVP!

Four_Fingers

Need double AP in this event to finally help the very long time it takes to level alliance rank.
I mean 64,680,000 AP to fully level is daunting to new and casual players who don't live and boost in Cyrodiil.

Necrotech_Master

TimeViewer wrote: »

Were PvP servers removed/cut not sure if I'm just not seeing the posting, glitched, or what but I no longer see a number of the servers listed, Cyrodiil only has 4 and IC only has 2

many of the campaigns were only added because of the midyear mayhem event (aka whitestrakes mayhem, i just still call it midyear because that was original name of event lol)

this includes the "named" imperial city campaigns, and the 7-day cyro camps

berunhieyes

Four_Fingers wrote: »

Need double AP in this event to finally help the very long time it takes to level alliance rank.
I mean 64,680,000 AP to fully level is daunting to new and casual players who don't live and boost in Cyrodiil.

There isn't really any need to get past 1,158,000 AP which gives rank 10 in the Assault and Support skill lines. Beyond that, there's no real benefit to leveling Alliance Rank. All it does is unlock a couple dyes and the ability to buy some furnishing plans.

joerginger

berunhieyes wrote: »

Four_Fingers wrote: »

Need double AP in this event to finally help the very long time it takes to level alliance rank.
I mean 64,680,000 AP to fully level is daunting to new and casual players who don't live and boost in Cyrodiil.

There isn't really any need to get past 1,158,000 AP which gives rank 10 in the Assault and Support skill lines. Beyond that, there's no real benefit to leveling Alliance Rank. All it does is unlock a couple dyes and the ability to buy some furnishing plans.

You also get a skill point per rank.

Reaver999

ZOS_MattFiror wrote: »

We completely understand the frustration many of you are feeling

really? do you understand? do you understand what it's like to sink money into a game, log in, wait 1 hr to get into pvp just to disconnect and spend the next 30 min trying to log back in until you just have to give up. Now an hour and a half goes by and it was just a waste. I have never spent so much time TRYING to play a game. Do you really understand? Would you appreciate that type of service when you spend your hard earned money on it? I doubt it, and I doubt you understand.

MCBIZZLE300

ZOS_MattFiror wrote: »

It’s long past time to give everyone an update on where we are with PvP improvements. As many of you know, we did a series of tests over the last year to give us more data. These tests were successful and gave us the information we needed. We now have a plan going forward - but heads up: it is going to take some time.

In short – just like we did for the client a year or so back when we introduced multithreaded rendering to increase client frame rates – we are going to rearchitect our server. The version of ESO in 2022 is many magnitudes larger and more complex than the ESO that launched in 2014. So, in order to give everyone a good play experience in high-intensity situations like PvP and Trials, we need to essentially rewrite some of the foundational server code to account for it. This should dramatically increase server performance, but obviously we will need to test and evaluate as we go along.

We’ve been planning this for the last quarter and we’re starting work on it right now. But, as you can imagine, changing the fundamentals of a huge live game such as ESO is a delicate and multi-stepped process, so expect this to take up much of 2022. Much of the early work is going to happen behind the scenes and we are definitely not going to rush it. A re-architecture of this magnitude will require the entire game to be re-tested and evaluated, as this particular code is the foundation on which the game is built. It will take tons of QA and testing time as well, and I’m sure that when the time comes, we’ll do as large a test as we can on the PTS.

In the meantime, we’ll consider additional ways to keep Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds interesting and exciting (for example, potentially special rulesets or weekend events) and will continue to work on bug fixes affecting combat, but we won’t be adding any new features to PvP until the work mentioned above is complete. Doing so would not only prolong the fixes we want to implement but would also exacerbate the issue of poor performance.

We completely understand the frustration many of you are feeling, especially with lack of information about our PvP plans. This was a huge decision to make and we needed to make sure we had exhausted all other possibilities before announcing this. Thanks for bearing with us, and we will give you periodic updates about the re-architecture progress over the course of the year.

Where's the new servers for PC EU? There is no shortage of micro processors anymore and you are now backed by Microsoft. So I'm sure if I can buy a gtx3090 you can source the new servers. We've waited years and the performance is so awful in cyrodiil. Sort it out

blktauna

Also its August and what updates have appeared? Is this not an actual priority?

VaranisArano

blktauna wrote: »

Also its August and what updates have appeared? Is this not an actual priority?

We did just get 10% more exp for killing monsters and players in Cyrodiil and Imperial City with U35.

I'm not sure how the Below 50 regulars feel about that change. It's kind of meh for me, since I don't really go to Cyrodiil for exp. But it is sort of funny from the perspective of "Yes, visiting PVEer, you see that we really are incentivized to kill players out here in PVP land..."

malistorr

Nobody cares about more exp. People care that the console and PC EU servers are replaced with hardware from this decade and that the code is replaced/fixed.

The_one_i_seek

what about BG weekends?

MISTFORMBZZZ

when will we get the upgraded servers ? Its kinda cheeky to let us wait so long while PC NA can already enjoy the game

Jaraal

MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »

when will we get the upgraded servers ? Its kinda cheeky to let us wait so long while PC NA can already enjoy the game

Still plenty of lag, crashes, and disconnects in Cyrodiil on PC/NA.

MCBIZZLE300

When is EU getting new servers? Performance is terrible

Necrotech_Master

MCBIZZLE300 wrote: »

When is EU getting new servers? Performance is terrible

MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »

when will we get the upgraded servers ? Its kinda cheeky to let us wait so long while PC NA can already enjoy the game

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/616021/pc-eu-hardware-update-august-2022

looking like maybe march 2023 for PC EU (and console sometime after that)

Wolfkeks

And updates on the BG events?
@ZOS_Kevin

Lebkuchen

ZOS_MattFiror wrote: »

[...] We’ve been planning this for the last quarter and we’re starting work on it right now.
[...] expect this to take up much of 2022.
[...] We completely understand the frustration many of you are feeling, especially with lack of information about our PvP plans. [...]

PvP on Playstation EU Gray Host has been dead since the maintenance in the middle of the PvP event a month ago. Performance has not been great before, but it got way worse after that maintenance.

We will be the last ones to get the server hardware updates (maybe at the end of 2023 or 2024?). 2022 is almost over, and it has been almost 8 months since you started work on the rearchitecture of your servers and rewrite of the code. So i wanted to ask if this is still going to happen in 2022 for Playstation EU?

Knockmaker

You know what would be a great compensation? Re-writing or at least partial fix of the code as they wait for the new servers. I hope they aren't waiting for hardware upgrade to actually start working on the code, which would take years. But again, no satisfactory update on that either.

geonsocal

Knockmaker wrote: »

You know what would be a great compensation? Re-writing or at least partial fix of the code as they wait for the new servers. I hope they aren't waiting for hardware upgrade to actually start working on the code, which would take years. But again, no satisfactory update on that either.

this is like a staffing thing - and, staffing can be more expensive than equipment...

i once worked for a company doing third party logistics, basically you do warehousing and shipping with someone else's product...

you got a budget at the beginning of the year, and, that's all folks...

every moment they do not upgrade equipment or hire additional staff - is money to someone(s)...

kind of like the job the narrator in fight club had (recall specialist for the automobile industry)...it just all numbers...

i imagine the directive from above is pretty simple - do the best you can...

malistorr

Would be very nice to hear an update about how the recode is going since there hasn't been one since the original announcement in January that I know of. The only update in here is not related and is from June. We have a recent update about the servers but not about this other very important work.

Dangranma_Burgrukgad

I really think you are not gonna like the update.

Nanfoodle

5 min of reading this thread tells me all I need to know. Will check in, in another 4 months.

Hurbster

lol, make it 6, or more likely 12.

Dangranma_Burgrukgad

In the meantime, we’ll consider additional ways to keep Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds interesting and exciting

Signed @ZOS_MattFiror
January, 12

note: added bolded to original

Jaraal

MrLasagna wrote: »

In the meantime, we’ll consider additional ways to keep Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds interesting and exciting

Signed @ZOS_MattFiror
January, 12

note: added bolded to original

You mean like adding extra XP days for people who are mostly 1600+CP?

I can't wait.

malistorr

@ZOS_MattFiror or anyone else from ZOS. Can we get an update on the "recode"?

coletas

malistorr wrote: »

@ZOS_MattFiror or anyone else from ZOS. Can we get an update on the "recode"?

Can i do an spoiler? Lol