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Free Deadlands DLC
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BomblePants✭✭✭✭✭
✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »BomblePants wrote: »I don’t think that the people who are either saying it’s an equal gift or complaining that subs are moaning about free stuff understand at all… yet it’s such a simple concept…
Please elaborate. You're being sort of elliptic here.
No I really don’t think I am. [snip]
In any case I am still looking forward to Deadlands…
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jad11mumbler✭✭✭✭✭NoxiousBlight wrote: »I am disappointed.
Not that the prize was a free DLC - congrats to the non-subs on your bonus prize by the way - but rather the marketing behind it. They hyped up this mystery prize and then it just left a bitter taste in my mouth.
They should have just announced it to begin with. Then no one would be upset. In fact, even the subs would be excited because it is a cool reward for a lot of players. But by calling it “amazing” and making us tune into a stream, only to tell your most loyal, and most likely highest spending customers, “sorry the bonus prize isn’t really for you” makes me feel bad. And marketing for a game should never make you feel bad.
How about ESO+ members get two extra armory slots as long as they are subscribed? How about subs get 2000 seals of endeavors for being loyal customers? How about ANYTHING?
But I guess it doesn’t matter. They know the vast majority of loyal subs will just keep on subbing.
There are lots of good points I could have quoted but choosing this one as I think it's really the best perspective on this. I am a longtime subscriber. I never pause; in fact I think I'm on the yearly payment plan, because if I play a game I'm dedicated to it until I quit.
I have frequently advocated on the forums that eventually paid content should migrate to base game. At some point things like Any Race, Any Alliance and older areas of content - especially ones that come with dungeons and trials - should be available to all. And that's A-OK with me. I'm never bitter about it; as the game grows and adds more things it's hard for new people to catch up and I think we need to do things in MMOs to keep those new players from getting frustrated and leaving.
I completely agree and am on board with wanting zos to add older content to the the base game.
Any Race Any Alliance especially now that the alliance war isn't as important.
When they added vvardfenfell to the base game I was hoping it would become a trend they'd keep up with but apparently not.
Imo the base game needs additional content added for free, be it new content entirely or old existing dlc zones, or at least much more interesting holiday events.
If this event unlocked deadlands for all players and not just blackwood buyers I'd be happy and would do it on more toons.Edited by jad11mumbler on October 3, 2021 5:17PM174 characters and counting over 13 accounts.
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Dark_Lord_Kuro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is fantastic, all my guild members and friends who don't or can't afford to subscribe to eso+ will get to play Deadlands with me. I will be getting the pathfinder achievement on all my characters on both EU and NA in the hopes that we get that bar filled.
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Its not greed(well for most of i think) it more disapointment
Like you im absolutly fine and even happy for other player that get the dlc
What is disapointhing me is the way it was presented
It was presented as an amazing mystery reward that got hyped for a week only for player to learn that a part of us wont benefit from the reward that was totaly worth the wait
If it was said in the article outright that the reward was the dlc, im pretty sure we wouldnt have this discussion or at least it wouldnt be so active
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peacenote✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭This is fantastic, all my guild members and friends who don't or can't afford to subscribe to eso+ will get to play Deadlands with me. I will be getting the pathfinder achievement on all my characters on both EU and NA in the hopes that we get that bar filled.
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I don't think it's greedy to share with ZoS that their strategy and "reveal" didn't land with all of their customers and is a bit tone deaf.
I mean, my friend and I were chuckling / eye-rolling about this earlier. Neither of us are "mad" or going to rage quit... [snip]
Honestly, what I have seen is that the theme of 2020 and 2021 has been a lack of appreciation for multiple perspectives. It is WAY beyond our video game community. I see it at work, in the news, in social media. Even simple thank yous are often aimed at one population, leaving others out while EVERYONE is tired and worn out from the pandemic with worries we didn't have in 2019. I don't care if I don't get a pixel reward in a video game, not really, not compared to larger issues in the real world.... but as someone who has a leadership role in my company I cringe when I see scenarios where people are left out needlessly. There is ZERO reason this couldn't have been a win for the entire community. Zero. And while I won't cancel my subscription over this, I am disappointed that ZoS didn't realize what they were doing (or worse, did it on purpose). It's not an inclusive strategy and I would like to see them do better.
[edited for bashing & to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 3, 2021 5:41PM12 -
FluffWit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Giving a 5 year ESO Plus subscriber a "free" dlc is a slap in the face, I'm really insulted by this.18 -
_adhyffbjjjf12✭✭✭✭✭The bottom line is that the communication could have been better, it was ambiguous. That's the only issue. It wasn't a conspiracy theory.
Its a great reward for the community, and in this occasion less for ESO+ players and more for non ESO+ players. ESO+ players got slightly more content and smaller rewards and perhaps the ability to group up with a couple non ESO+ players that couldn't enter before (good thing). They also lost nothing they had the day before.Edited by _adhyffbjjjf12 on October 3, 2021 6:26PM0 -
_adhyffbjjjf12✭✭✭✭✭Giving a 5 year ESO Plus subscriber a "free" dlc is a slap in the face, I'm really insulted by this.
You were not given the free DLC content, you already have it, along with all the other free DLC you have to hand. Just because you are an ESO+ subscriber does not mean you are entitled to every reward offered in game.
If you have a monthly subscription with some company in any industry and you see them offer a special offer to pay as you go customers are you 'insulted'? ofc not, it happens all the time, just like pay as you go customer are not insulted with vice versa.Edited by _adhyffbjjjf12 on October 3, 2021 6:31PM2 -
TheImperfect✭✭✭✭✭
✭Some people who don't do housing weren't pleased with the free home last year, I think it's good to change it up a bit. I am ESO plus and glad others get the dlc, I intend to stay subbed while playing but appreciate I'll always own Deadlands. I think a lot of people may have forgotten we are still getting a lot this year with the free pet, mount, skin and home in the events this year.3 -
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It was billed as an awesome reward for the community effort of getting the pathfinder progress bar up to 100%, which set up the expectation that the reward would be something of value for everyone in the community. Instead, only a subset of the community benefits. As has been said many times before, if it had turned out that only ESO+ subscribers would get the awesome reward, many non-subscribers would be disappointed. And rightly so._adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »You were not given the free DLC content, you already have it, along with all the other free DLC you have to hand. Just because you are an ESO+ subscriber does not mean you are entitled to every reward offered in game.
Also, as an ESO+ subscriber, I've never been given a free DLC. I don't have any "free DLC to hand." I pay for all the perks.
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✭✭✭✭✭santhoranb16_ESO wrote: »[snip] you aren't owed anything. you get your craft bag, extra space, and crowns for subbing. I didn't care about the house last year since I don't do housing, but I didn't complain about it or not participate in the event.
I had an unexpected medical bill come up this summer so I haven't been subbed since, so getting to continue the blackwood story without having to pay for the DLC/eso+ is awesome to me.
You missing the point: The most loyal players get nothing, those that pay the most. That they feel disrespectful handled is just logical.
Like say your groceries shop, you the daily customer pay the highest prices and get no discountes, the once-a-month visitor gets half prices and a welcome present . How would you feel?
You keep the shop alive and they get the rewards. How nice...
To put it bluntly, you are already paying to keep the shop alive, so it has to be assumed that you are satisfied enough to do that. They work to attract new people and hope that some of them join you in the ranks of the people supporting the shop.
Marketing events like this are very much oriented towards getting players to unlock the wallet and spend money, and ESO Plus players have already proven that they will do that.
Every year ESO Plus increases in value, and 2021 is no exception. Even with the free 4Q DLC, ESO Plus gets 2 dungeon DLC for 2021. Next year, if you did not buy Blackwood, you will get that zone _and_ the Deadlands zone as part of the subscription.
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✭✭✭✭✭Nchuleftingth wrote: »Lets play out a scenario. Imagine that you heard that there was a secret prize coming and you waited for the announcement of the mystery reward and heard it was only accessible to ESO+ holders. You would feel disappointed right?
[edited for rude/insulting comment]
Honestly ? No. Or at least not in any lasting form.
On a personal level, it can happen to anyone to gift a CD or a book that they think you'll like (but you don't) or that you simply already own. Disappointment yes, resentment no.
On a business level, we're confronted to this everyday : companies that push the prices up by 20%, then lower them by 20% and call it "on sale". Employeers that pay you your due holiday leave and disguise it as a "gift". Suppliers that offer you "extra service for free" when in fact it's just a new regulation that forces them to do so. I could go on and on.
In this case Deadlands DLC is a truly good surprise for me. It does not save me money but it saves me the hassle of finding a crown seller to buy it with gold.
A couple of years ago they gave away Murkmire when I had ALREADY bought it with crowns. Frustration ? A little. But resentment ? No. It's free, it's free. For me, for others, doesn't matter. And yes it's business.
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Yes. It is the mystery reward (that is no longer a mystery). As long as you own Blackwood and the community succeeds in unlocking the challenge, you will get the free dlc reward too! It doesn't matter if you sub or don't sub or sometimes sub, everyone who meets the prerequisites will get this greatest reward yet! Best advice is to get to work with all your toons (and create some new ones if you have room) so the community can win free dlc!Edited by Psiion on October 3, 2021 7:36PM0 -
AzuraFan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Every year ESO Plus increases in value, and 2021 is no exception. Even with the free 4Q DLC, ESO Plus gets 2 dungeon DLC for 2021. Next year, if you did not buy Blackwood, you will get that zone _and_ the Deadlands zone as part of the subscription.
Getting the chapter zones WAY after release isn't a perk, IMO, for players that have been around for a while. I'd have to miss out on a lot of guild activities if I waited to get zones until they convert to DLCs, and also each time a new chapter comes out, new players buying the base game get all the previous chapters. Not only that, if I didn't buy chapters when they're released, I'd have no content to play (story-wise) for a while. So I don't see the chapters being converted to DLCs as ESO+ increasing in value year over year. If anything, ESO+ seems stagnant and isn't increasing in value at all.
I totally get your point about marketing, though. I think the original title of this thread was about a marketing blunder, and that's what this is. They hyped up an awesome reward for the community that turned out not to be so awesome for ESO+ subscribers and those who don't have Blackwood and don't want to buy it. It was all in how it was hyped.Edited by AzuraFan on October 3, 2021 7:25PM4 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭There is no such thing as free … if it is something you are actively paying for.Edited by Blacknight841 on October 3, 2021 7:31PM2
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✭✭✭Since I am never subbing again and never buying another chapter or dlc, a fee dlc will be welcome.0 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭trackdemon5512 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »trackdemon5512 wrote: »Those with ESO+ subscriptions pay X amount of real life money with the understanding that the services provided are unique.
- An unlimited craft bag
- Access to All DLCs including the newest
- A monthly allotment of crowns
- Various XP/Gold bonuses
There is an understanding for those players that without ESO+ they would have to shell out real world cash to purchase crowns in order access a specific DLC. That without shelling out for ESO+ you actually pay more to own a specific DLC.
I could spend roughly the same amount of real world money and either get 2 months of ESO+ or get 30k crowns. 30k crowns gets me a DLC to keep as long as the servers remain up. ESO+ gets me access to a DLC while my subscription is active AND the currency to purchase it to permanently play within 2 months.
By giving away DEADLANDS you have effectively devalued the utility of a service many prepaid for. The value of the service is unaffected as the amount of crowns rewarded and access to DLCs during a subscription remain unchanged. But specifically the value of the service’s utility does diminish. And those who ZOS encouraged to purchase the product based upon the promises of such a utility are short changed.
Those who pay month-to-month are short changed the least. Those who pay months in advance, and are encouraged to do so with promises of greater discounts for doing so, are short changed the most. This is why subscribers are upset.
Renting the DLC is more expensive than owning it. It's a smaller upfront cost but in the long run it's cheaper to own.
The value in eso+ doesn't lie in the access to the DLC, it lies in all the other perks.
Incorrect. Renting the DLC is not more expensive than owning it because of how ESO+ operates. If I subscribe to ESO+ for a month I “rent” the newest DLC AND get roughly the cash value of my subscription in usable crowns. After the month is over I only need to pony up 350 more crowns to continue permanently accessing a specific zone if I did not use my crowns during the subscription.
2 months of ESO+ is roughly 30 dollars.
1 month + 750 crowns (lowest crown pack) is 23 dollars.
Buying the DLC standalone is 15 dollars.
In addition, the group who got nothing are explicitly the ones that don't let their sub lapse and thus don't have any reason to use their crowns to own the sub. If you use your crowns to buy the DLC, you have effectively been saved 1500 crowns.
To access this DLC for 1 year is 140 dollars.
To acess this DLC for 1 year by owning it, it's still just 15 dollars.
Objectively, owning the DLC is the cheapest option for accessing the DLC.
ESO+ would not be worth it at current prices if were not for the many other benefits such as the crafting bag, crowns, exp, etc. It is those benefits that make it worthwhile. If your interests were only the various DLC, you are better off owning it because it is not an ongoing cost.Edited by spartaxoxo on October 3, 2021 7:45PM2 -
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »trackdemon5512 wrote: »Those with ESO+ subscriptions pay X amount of real life money with the understanding that the services provided are unique.
Renting the DLC is more expensive than owning it. ESO+ is a smaller upfront cost but in the long run it's cheaper to own.
The value in eso+ doesn't lie in the access to the DLC, it lies in all the other perks.
You also aren't paying for uniqueness when it comes to the DLC, the dlc is available without ESO+. The functionality of ESO+ also doesn't change with this reward, you still get access to this dlc with eso+. If you do not get this from the crownstore for free when it gets pushed out or don't own Blackwood, that becomes very significant.
You're not going to want to access it that way because owning it for free is obviously better, but it's hard to argue that being given a free upgrade to your usual perk devalues it.
This upgrade is of no use to people who never drop sub unless they drop the game entirely, but that's a matter of desire not value.
The monetary value of the sub has not changed. What you get has not changed. You still got Deadlands, it's just been upgraded from rent to own (if you want the upgrade).
The monetary value has changed. Eso+ subscribers had access to three dlcs per year that they would otherwise not have access to, and now that is just two.
No. The monetary value has not changed. ESO+ gives them access to 3 dlc that they otherwise do not own. This perk gives them free ownership. It is an upgrade to their access.
If you have a ton of socks, and I gifted you a pair, I gave you a useless gift. But I did not take any of your socks.
If they choose not to own this dlc, they will still have access to 3 dlc because their ability to rent the dlc they don't own has not changed. They have simply been given a free upgrade from rent to own, if they own the Blackwood dlc. All those subscribers that don't own Blackwood? They are gonna be making use out of that absolutely still functional rental.
They were not given anything useful to them, but nothing was taken away either.Edited by spartaxoxo on October 3, 2021 7:46PM4 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Every year ESO Plus increases in value, and 2021 is no exception. Even with the free 4Q DLC, ESO Plus gets 2 dungeon DLC for 2021. Next year, if you did not buy Blackwood, you will get that zone _and_ the Deadlands zone as part of the subscription.
Getting the chapter zones WAY after release isn't a perk, IMO, for players that have been around for a while. I'd have to miss out on a lot of guild activities if I waited to get zones until they convert to DLCs, and also each time a new chapter comes out, new players buying the base game get all the previous chapters. Not only that, if I didn't buy chapters when they're released, I'd have no content to play (story-wise) for a while. So I don't see the chapters being converted to DLCs as ESO+ increasing in value year over year. If anything, ESO+ seems stagnant and isn't increasing in value at all.
I totally get your point about marketing, though. I think the original title of this thread was about a marketing blunder, and that's what this is. They hyped up an awesome reward for the community that turned out not to be so awesome for ESO+ subscribers and those who don't have Blackwood and don't want to buy it. It was all in how it was hyped.
Of course getting the unpurchased chapter zones as part of ESO Plus the following year is a perk.
I also don't think this is really a marketing blunder. New Coke was a marketing blunder. This is just normal everyday marketing.
As for the "awesome reward", it is an awesome reward. The reward doesn't have to be for me to make it awesome, and this reward does benefit ESO Plus, just indirectly.
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Every year ESO Plus increases in value, and 2021 is no exception. Even with the free 4Q DLC, ESO Plus gets 2 dungeon DLC for 2021. Next year, if you did not buy Blackwood, you will get that zone _and_ the Deadlands zone as part of the subscription.
Getting the chapter zones WAY after release isn't a perk, IMO, for players that have been around for a while. I'd have to miss out on a lot of guild activities if I waited to get zones until they convert to DLCs, and also each time a new chapter comes out, new players buying the base game get all the previous chapters. Not only that, if I didn't buy chapters when they're released, I'd have no content to play (story-wise) for a while. So I don't see the chapters being converted to DLCs as ESO+ increasing in value year over year. If anything, ESO+ seems stagnant and isn't increasing in value at all.
I totally get your point about marketing, though. I think the original title of this thread was about a marketing blunder, and that's what this is. They hyped up an awesome reward for the community that turned out not to be so awesome for ESO+ subscribers and those who don't have Blackwood and don't want to buy it. It was all in how it was hyped.
Of course getting the unpurchased chapter zones as part of ESO Plus the following year is a perk.
I also don't think this is really a marketing blunder. New Coke was a marketing blunder. This is just normal everyday marketing.
As for the "awesome reward", it is an awesome reward. The reward doesn't have to be for me to make it awesome, and this reward does benefit ESO Plus, just indirectly.
While I don’t agree that ESO+ subscribers have lost anything (a free upgrade is not taking things from you), I do think this disappointment partially stems from bad marketing. They should have just listed it with the other rewards if it wasn't gonna be something more generally useful.2 -
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✭✭Hold on now...
I was told that if all my characters got Pathfinder then maybe we'd ALL get a SPECIAL prize
But that prize is something I've already paid for? So I get nothing?
But... but... but... I've already wasted a weekend taking extra characters to Blackwood to get Pathfinder, and that effort gets me nothing?
So I don't have to waste any time taking my other chars through the empty wastelands of Blackwood, for nothing?
Cool, coz Blackwood ain't that great.11 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »trackdemon5512 wrote: »Those with ESO+ subscriptions pay X amount of real life money with the understanding that the services provided are unique.
Renting the DLC is more expensive than owning it. ESO+ is a smaller upfront cost but in the long run it's cheaper to own.
The value in eso+ doesn't lie in the access to the DLC, it lies in all the other perks.
You also aren't paying for uniqueness when it comes to the DLC, the dlc is available without ESO+. The functionality of ESO+ also doesn't change with this reward, you still get access to this dlc with eso+. If you do not get this from the crownstore for free when it gets pushed out or don't own Blackwood, that becomes very significant.
You're not going to want to access it that way because owning it for free is obviously better, but it's hard to argue that being given a free upgrade to your usual perk devalues it.
This upgrade is of no use to people who never drop sub unless they drop the game entirely, but that's a matter of desire not value.
The monetary value of the sub has not changed. What you get has not changed. You still got Deadlands, it's just been upgraded from rent to own (if you want the upgrade).
The monetary value has changed. Eso+ subscribers had access to three dlcs per year that they would otherwise not have access to, and now that is just two.
No. The monetary value has not changed. ESO+ gives them access to 3 dlc that they otherwise do not own. This perk gives them free ownership. It is an upgrade to their access, it did not take anything away.
If you have a ton of socks, and I gifted you a pair, I gave you a useless gift. But I did not take any of your socks.
If they choose not to own this dlc, they will still have access to 3 dlc because their ability to rent the dlc has not changed. They have simply been given a free upgrade from rent to own.
They were not given anything useful to them, but nothing was taken away either.
I would have 11 socks which is more then the ten which is more then I had. I am not getting a bonus dlc I still just have the three (now two) that the sub allowed me access to.
A better analogy would be a monthly pass (eso+) for a bus for work (playing the game). And then finding out they are giving away free rides (access to deadlands) during the month as a mystery gift.
The gift of free bus rides (deadlands) means nothing to someone who already has access to the rides through their monthly pass (eso+). And the only reason I would not be getting a monthly pass (eso+) is because the trip would no longer be necessary because I stopped going to work (stop playing eso).
I don’t think eso+ members are asking for the moon. Just a small gift that acknowledges they have a sub would have been nice.7 -
_adhyffbjjjf12✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Every year ESO Plus increases in value, and 2021 is no exception. Even with the free 4Q DLC, ESO Plus gets 2 dungeon DLC for 2021. Next year, if you did not buy Blackwood, you will get that zone _and_ the Deadlands zone as part of the subscription.
Getting the chapter zones WAY after release isn't a perk, IMO, for players that have been around for a while. I'd have to miss out on a lot of guild activities if I waited to get zones until they convert to DLCs, and also each time a new chapter comes out, new players buying the base game get all the previous chapters. Not only that, if I didn't buy chapters when they're released, I'd have no content to play (story-wise) for a while. So I don't see the chapters being converted to DLCs as ESO+ increasing in value year over year. If anything, ESO+ seems stagnant and isn't increasing in value at all.
I totally get your point about marketing, though. I think the original title of this thread was about a marketing blunder, and that's what this is. They hyped up an awesome reward for the community that turned out not to be so awesome for ESO+ subscribers and those who don't have Blackwood and don't want to buy it. It was all in how it was hyped.
Of course getting the unpurchased chapter zones as part of ESO Plus the following year is a perk.
I also don't think this is really a marketing blunder. New Coke was a marketing blunder. This is just normal everyday marketing.
As for the "awesome reward", it is an awesome reward. The reward doesn't have to be for me to make it awesome, and this reward does benefit ESO Plus, just indirectly.
While I don’t agree that ESO+ subscribers have lost anything (a free upgrade is not taking things from you), I do think this disappointment partially stems from bad marketing. They should have just listed it with the other rewards if it wasn't gonna be something more generally useful.
yeah that's the real issue, if they had said up front they would give a special treat to those that don't have access to the DLC then people would not have been so triggered.2 -
_adhyffbjjjf12✭✭✭✭✭_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »
You were not given the free DLC content, you already have it, along with all the other free DLC you have to hand. Just because you are an ESO+ subscriber does not mean you are entitled to every reward offered in game.Giving a 5 year ESO Plus subscriber a "free" dlc is a slap in the face, I'm really insulted by this.
If you have a monthly subscription with some company in any industry and you see them offer a special offer to pay as you go customers are you 'insulted'? ofc not, it happens all the time, just like pay as you go customer are not insulted with vice versa.
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no its not [snip], it happens all the time. I just looked at my tv package providers website, and it offers something to new customers for free right now that I get for my monthly fee. Your issue is trying to spin a reward for someone else into a negative for yourself when clearly that was not the intent of the developers or marketing. Their sole issue was a badly worded advert.
[edited for profanity bypass & to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 4, 2021 2:05PM2 -
JamesDax3✭✭_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »
You were not given the free DLC content, you already have it, along with all the other free DLC you have to hand. Just because you are an ESO+ subscriber does not mean you are entitled to every reward offered in game.Giving a 5 year ESO Plus subscriber a "free" dlc is a slap in the face, I'm really insulted by this.
If you have a monthly subscription with some company in any industry and you see them offer a special offer to pay as you go customers are you 'insulted'? ofc not, it happens all the time, just like pay as you go customer are not insulted with vice versa.
[snip]
no its not [snip], it happens all the time. I just looked at my tv package providers website, and it offers something to new customers for free right now that I get for my monthly fee. Your issue is trying to spin a reward for someone else into a negative for yourself when clearly that was not the intent of the developers or marketing. Their sole issue was a badly worded advert.
It is [snip]. "Work together with your fellow players to discover Blackwood's most memorable locations and you can unlock event-specific collectibles and the Deadlands DLC for anyone who owns ESO's latest Chapter." This is from the B counties of Blackwood website. ESO+ members would be getting the Deadlands DLC anyway so this is NOT anything special for us. Non members get the DLC(and I'm fine with that btw) but members get nothing.
[edited for profanity bypass & to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 4, 2021 2:06PM7 -
_adhyffbjjjf12✭✭✭✭✭_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »
You were not given the free DLC content, you already have it, along with all the other free DLC you have to hand. Just because you are an ESO+ subscriber does not mean you are entitled to every reward offered in game.Giving a 5 year ESO Plus subscriber a "free" dlc is a slap in the face, I'm really insulted by this.
If you have a monthly subscription with some company in any industry and you see them offer a special offer to pay as you go customers are you 'insulted'? ofc not, it happens all the time, just like pay as you go customer are not insulted with vice versa.
[snip]
no its not [snip], it happens all the time. I just looked at my tv package providers website, and it offers something to new customers for free right now that I get for my monthly fee. Your issue is trying to spin a reward for someone else into a negative for yourself when clearly that was not the intent of the developers or marketing. Their sole issue was a badly worded advert.
It is [snip]. "Work together with your fellow players to discover Blackwood's most memorable locations and you can unlock event-specific collectibles and the Deadlands DLC for anyone who owns ESO's latest Chapter." This is from the B counties of Blackwood website. ESO+ members would be getting the Deadlands DLC anyway so this is NOT anything special for us. Non members get the DLC(and I'm fine with that btw) but members get nothing.
i and many others already said the advert was poorly worded, that doesn't mean the intent was bad and worth all this vitriol. Ask yourself, was their intent to annoy ESO+ players or was it an attempt to drum up community excitement.
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 4, 2021 2:06PM1 -
JamesDax3✭✭_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »
You were not given the free DLC content, you already have it, along with all the other free DLC you have to hand. Just because you are an ESO+ subscriber does not mean you are entitled to every reward offered in game.Giving a 5 year ESO Plus subscriber a "free" dlc is a slap in the face, I'm really insulted by this.
If you have a monthly subscription with some company in any industry and you see them offer a special offer to pay as you go customers are you 'insulted'? ofc not, it happens all the time, just like pay as you go customer are not insulted with vice versa.
[snip]
no its not [snip], it happens all the time. I just looked at my tv package providers website, and it offers something to new customers for free right now that I get for my monthly fee. Your issue is trying to spin a reward for someone else into a negative for yourself when clearly that was not the intent of the developers or marketing. Their sole issue was a badly worded advert.
It is [snip]. "Work together with your fellow players to discover Blackwood's most memorable locations and you can unlock event-specific collectibles and the Deadlands DLC for anyone who owns ESO's latest Chapter." This is from the B counties of Blackwood website. ESO+ members would be getting the Deadlands DLC anyway so this is NOT anything special for us. Non members get the DLC(and I'm fine with that btw) but members get nothing.
i and many others already said the advert was poorly worded, that doesn't mean the intent was bad and worth all this vitriol.
No it really is worth all this vitriol. At least until they address it. Have they? Did I miss that?
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 4, 2021 2:07PM3 -
_adhyffbjjjf12✭✭✭✭✭_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »
You were not given the free DLC content, you already have it, along with all the other free DLC you have to hand. Just because you are an ESO+ subscriber does not mean you are entitled to every reward offered in game.Giving a 5 year ESO Plus subscriber a "free" dlc is a slap in the face, I'm really insulted by this.
If you have a monthly subscription with some company in any industry and you see them offer a special offer to pay as you go customers are you 'insulted'? ofc not, it happens all the time, just like pay as you go customer are not insulted with vice versa.
[snip]
no its not [snip], it happens all the time. I just looked at my tv package providers website, and it offers something to new customers for free right now that I get for my monthly fee. Your issue is trying to spin a reward for someone else into a negative for yourself when clearly that was not the intent of the developers or marketing. Their sole issue was a badly worded advert.
It is [snip]. "Work together with your fellow players to discover Blackwood's most memorable locations and you can unlock event-specific collectibles and the Deadlands DLC for anyone who owns ESO's latest Chapter." This is from the B counties of Blackwood website. ESO+ members would be getting the Deadlands DLC anyway so this is NOT anything special for us. Non members get the DLC(and I'm fine with that btw) but members get nothing.
i and many others already said the advert was poorly worded, that doesn't mean the intent was bad and worth all this vitriol.
No it really is worth all this vitriol. At least until they address it. Have they? Did I miss that?
well I'm a yearly subscriber and buy plenty on top, I Don't need any additional rewards to placate me because of a badly worded advert. Not everything in the world needs to be a drama.
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 4, 2021 2:08PM2 -
JamesDax3✭✭_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »
You were not given the free DLC content, you already have it, along with all the other free DLC you have to hand. Just because you are an ESO+ subscriber does not mean you are entitled to every reward offered in game.Giving a 5 year ESO Plus subscriber a "free" dlc is a slap in the face, I'm really insulted by this.
If you have a monthly subscription with some company in any industry and you see them offer a special offer to pay as you go customers are you 'insulted'? ofc not, it happens all the time, just like pay as you go customer are not insulted with vice versa.
What a load of BS.
no its not bs, it happens all the time. I just looked at my tv package providers website, and it offers something to new customers for free right now that I get for my monthly fee. Your issue is trying to spin a reward for someone else into a negative for yourself when clearly that was not the intent of the developers or marketing. Their sole issue was a badly worded advert.
It is BS. "Work together with your fellow players to discover Blackwood's most memorable locations and you can unlock event-specific collectibles and the Deadlands DLC for anyone who owns ESO's latest Chapter." This is from the B counties of Blackwood website. ESO+ members would be getting the Deadlands DLC anyway so this is NOT anything special for us. Non members get the DLC(and I'm fine with that btw) but members get nothing.
i and many others already said the advert was poorly worded, that doesn't mean the intent was bad and worth all this vitriol.
No it really is worth all this vitriol. At least until they address it. Have they? Did I miss that?
well I'm a yearly subscriber and buy plenty on top, I Don't need any additional rewards to placate me because of a badly worded advert. Not everything in the world needs to be a drama.
Good for you.1