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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

So on the PS5 Version I have to do all Trophies again?

  • TequilaFire
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    I wouldn't hold my breath.
  • AuraStorm43
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    We shouldn’t need to dig up outside sources to get updates, the thread here should have been updated
  • yukikenzo
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    Its December now and we still got no update or fix in sight.
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    rich in ESO, poor irl
  • BalticBlues
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    We fought "online click wars" over months in 2021 to finally buy a PS5 for ESO.
    And now we have to continue playing the PS4 version on PS5 in 2022
    to avoid ESO trophies getting broken into two trophy lists?

    Why did ZOS release a PS5 version which is not compatible with PS4 trophies?

    EDIT:

    In our house we still play on PS4 AND PS5. Suggestion:
    Now that the damage is done with two seperate trophy lists,
    and if syncing PS4 and PS5 trophies is too demanding or not possible:

    A PS5 game option to "use PS4 trophy list"
    (instead of PS5 trophy list) could be good enough for many people.

    Edited by BalticBlues on December 12, 2021 12:14AM
  • spartaxoxo
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    @ZOS_Kevin

    Is this still being worked on?
  • lillybit
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    It's disappointing that we've gone from actually getting the occasional official comment here to nothing for months. If I were a cynical person I'd say they were just dangling a carrot in front of us to shut us up.
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  • AuraStorm43
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    Just come out and say it ZOS, you aren’t gonna fix this and its just like Skyrim and Doom on PS5, not trophy transfers
  • FlopsyPrince
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    I guess the account no longer counts as your account, just like moving from the PS4 to the PC. Thus you lose lots of things.

    Hopefully you don't lose housing and mounts.
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  • FlopsyPrince
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    This demonstrates, again, why developing the processes to sync between platforms would be so valuable for ZOS. This is another place where lacking it causes problems.

    This is not hard technology folks. Many people in other fields have done the same in other areas, tap some of their experience!
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  • IronWooshu
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    Instead of syncing trophies can we not just play the PS5 version and continue to earn the trophies on the PS4 list?
  • xAlucardx92
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    IronWooshu wrote: »
    Instead of syncing trophies can we not just play the PS5 version and continue to earn the trophies on the PS4 list?

    that's exactly what i do :D
  • Espionage-
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    It’s time though. I know I won’t be able to get emperor again as my life has changed since when I got it.

    Disappointing there’s no recent update
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  • renne
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    I am once again asking for an official update from someone who works for ZOS, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin hello?
  • Blinx
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    as someone who originally began their ESO journey on PS4, I sympathise with you guys.
    no updates to the situation for the longest, is bad customer service no matter how you look at it.

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    Blinx wrote: »
    as someone who originally began their ESO journey on PS4, I sympathise with you guys.
    no updates to the situation for the longest, is bad customer service no matter how you look at it.

    Switching platforms can leave a very bad taste in your mouth for the game.

    I really like it, but to know what I walked from on the PS4 continues to frustrate me, including about 50K+ Crowns!
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  • Elsonso
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    Blinx wrote: »
    as someone who originally began their ESO journey on PS4, I sympathise with you guys.
    no updates to the situation for the longest, is bad customer service no matter how you look at it.

    Lambert did repeat on his stream today that Sony has "relented" and allowed ZOS to do this, and they have plans, but no dates.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/ApatheticHandsomeBisonAMPEnergy-13tBXWyyN6Q4yCCF
    Edited by Elsonso on December 21, 2021 2:14AM
    ESO Plus: No
    PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
    XBox EU/NA: @ElsonsoJannus
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  • The3sFinest
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    Blinx wrote: »
    as someone who originally began their ESO journey on PS4, I sympathise with you guys.
    no updates to the situation for the longest, is bad customer service no matter how you look at it.

    Lambert did repeat on his stream today that Sony has "relented" and allowed ZOS to do this, and they have plans, but no dates.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/ApatheticHandsomeBisonAMPEnergy-13tBXWyyN6Q4yCCF

    I am really glad to hear this, but at the same time I will keep my excitement at bay until it is fully revealed what those plans entail. Why he blames Sony though, I have no idea. Why were so many other developers able to implement this, even those without ties, such as being first party studios? Maybe this MS acquisition really did leave a bad taste in Sony's mouth.
    Anyway, I hope Zos does not disappoint. Thank you for this information.
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    Blinx wrote: »
    as someone who originally began their ESO journey on PS4, I sympathise with you guys.
    no updates to the situation for the longest, is bad customer service no matter how you look at it.

    Lambert did repeat on his stream today that Sony has "relented" and allowed ZOS to do this, and they have plans, but no dates.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/ApatheticHandsomeBisonAMPEnergy-13tBXWyyN6Q4yCCF

    I am really glad to hear this, but at the same time I will keep my excitement at bay until it is fully revealed what those plans entail. Why he blames Sony though, I have no idea. Why were so many other developers able to implement this, even those without ties, such as being first party studios? Maybe this MS acquisition really did leave a bad taste in Sony's mouth.
    Anyway, I hope Zos does not disappoint. Thank you for this information.

    Sony and Bethesda have a pretty bad working relationship, and they’re owned by Microsoft now

    I don’t really understand why its an issue Sony needs to “relent” on either, but hopefully it gets done soon
  • Blinx
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    Elsonso wrote: »

    Lambert did repeat on his stream today that Sony has "relented" and allowed ZOS to do this, and they have plans, but no dates.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/ApatheticHandsomeBisonAMPEnergy-13tBXWyyN6Q4yCCF

    that's also part of the problem, that info should be readily available to the ps4 community, it should be here on the forums as well, not everyone follows streams
  • IronWooshu
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    A PS5 game option to "use PS4 trophy list"
    (instead of PS5 trophy list) could be good enough for many people.

    This is all I ask for, I personally don't want separated lists or two versions of the game on my trophy list. Please allow me to play the PS5 version while still earning trophies on the PS4 list.
  • FlopsyPrince
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    IronWooshu wrote: »
    A PS5 game option to "use PS4 trophy list"
    (instead of PS5 trophy list) could be good enough for many people.

    This is all I ask for, I personally don't want separated lists or two versions of the game on my trophy list. Please allow me to play the PS5 version while still earning trophies on the PS4 list.

    They need to make things "tied to the account" truly tied to the account. Using another "account's" achievements is not a good solution.
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  • Riordan
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    IronWooshu wrote: »
    A PS5 game option to "use PS4 trophy list"
    (instead of PS5 trophy list) could be good enough for many people.

    This is all I ask for, I personally don't want separated lists or two versions of the game on my trophy list. Please allow me to play the PS5 version while still earning trophies on the PS4 list.

    Unfortunately that is impossible due to Sony‘s system structure.
    The PS5 version of a game is a different SKU (meaning it‘s a complete different game for the system).
    There is no physical connection between both games. We are not talking about a PS4 game with an FPS unlock its a different game if there is a PS5 version. They are only giving a 100% discount on the purchase if you own the PS4 version but that‘s only a shop feature.

    So the only solution is based on the account (in other cases the savegame).
    And that‘s the thing they will finally do now.

  • AuraStorm43
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    Riordan wrote: »
    IronWooshu wrote: »
    A PS5 game option to "use PS4 trophy list"
    (instead of PS5 trophy list) could be good enough for many people.

    This is all I ask for, I personally don't want separated lists or two versions of the game on my trophy list. Please allow me to play the PS5 version while still earning trophies on the PS4 list.

    Unfortunately that is impossible due to Sony‘s system structure.
    The PS5 version of a game is a different SKU (meaning it‘s a complete different game for the system).
    There is no physical connection between both games. We are not talking about a PS4 game with an FPS unlock its a different game if there is a PS5 version. They are only giving a 100% discount on the purchase if you own the PS4 version but that‘s only a shop feature.

    So the only solution is based on the account (in other cases the savegame).
    And that‘s the thing they will finally do now.

    Where did you even get this information?
  • FlopsyPrince
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    Do you lose your Crowns, mounts, housing, etc.?
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  • Kalik_Gold
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    Do you lose your Crowns, mounts, housing, etc.?

    No I have everything - just not my trophies 🏆. I constantly play both accounts as I have 2 PS4s (office, bedroom) and a PS5 in the den. So my trophies are a mess as I jump from account to account for the past year.
    Main: (PvP & PvE)
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP:
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: (Specialty)
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade

    Leveling...
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
    ======
    Passives of another race used. (RP)
    *Breton
    **Imperial




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
    PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion

  • FlopsyPrince
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    Kalik_Gold wrote: »
    Do you lose your Crowns, mounts, housing, etc.?

    No I have everything - just not my trophies 🏆. I constantly play both accounts as I have 2 PS4s (office, bedroom) and a PS5 in the den. So my trophies are a mess as I jump from account to account for the past year.

    That is a bit odd then. I wonder why achievements aren't shared if those are.

    If they did/do copy them over, then why don't they do it across other platforms?
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    Kalik_Gold wrote: »
    Do you lose your Crowns, mounts, housing, etc.?

    No I have everything - just not my trophies 🏆. I constantly play both accounts as I have 2 PS4s (office, bedroom) and a PS5 in the den. So my trophies are a mess as I jump from account to account for the past year.

    That is a bit odd then. I wonder why achievements aren't shared if those are.

    If they did/do copy them over, then why don't they do it across other platforms?

    The ESO account is ZOS, so Crowns, Mounts, Pets, Housing, and in-game Achievements stored by ZOS are the same as long as the same account is played. The ZOS account does not care if the player is using a PS4 or PS5.

    Trophies are stored by PSN, not ZOS, and in this case, it does matter whether you are PS4 or PS5. That is the point of this thread. :smile:

    ESO Plus: No
    PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
    XBox EU/NA: @ElsonsoJannus
    X/Twitter: ElsonsoJannus
  • FlopsyPrince
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    Elsonso wrote: »
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    Kalik_Gold wrote: »
    Do you lose your Crowns, mounts, housing, etc.?

    No I have everything - just not my trophies 🏆. I constantly play both accounts as I have 2 PS4s (office, bedroom) and a PS5 in the den. So my trophies are a mess as I jump from account to account for the past year.

    That is a bit odd then. I wonder why achievements aren't shared if those are.

    If they did/do copy them over, then why don't they do it across other platforms?

    The ESO account is ZOS, so Crowns, Mounts, Pets, Housing, and in-game Achievements stored by ZOS are the same as long as the same account is played. The ZOS account does not care if the player is using a PS4 or PS5.

    Trophies are stored by PSN, not ZOS, and in this case, it does matter whether you are PS4 or PS5. That is the point of this thread. :smile:

    Ah. I was thinking "achievements" not the PS4 items. I had some of those I am sure but I never paid any attention to that. It would be a Sony issue in that case.
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  • beer781993
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    Elsonso wrote: »
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    Kalik_Gold wrote: »
    Do you lose your Crowns, mounts, housing, etc.?

    No I have everything - just not my trophies 🏆. I constantly play both accounts as I have 2 PS4s (office, bedroom) and a PS5 in the den. So my trophies are a mess as I jump from account to account for the past year.

    That is a bit odd then. I wonder why achievements aren't shared if those are.

    If they did/do copy them over, then why don't they do it across other platforms?

    The ESO account is ZOS, so Crowns, Mounts, Pets, Housing, and in-game Achievements stored by ZOS are the same as long as the same account is played. The ZOS account does not care if the player is using a PS4 or PS5.

    Trophies are stored by PSN, not ZOS, and in this case, it does matter whether you are PS4 or PS5. That is the point of this thread. :smile:

    Ah. I was thinking "achievements" not the PS4 items. I had some of those I am sure but I never paid any attention to that. It would be a Sony issue in that case.

    How would you know that it is a Sony issue?
    Do you have any source with a clear statement?
    Other games have synchronised trophy lists, popping trophies simultaneously on both lists.

    ZoS can't even guarantee a lag free properly working game. Endless bugs and problems...

    [snip] Ps4 freezes , crashes and bad performance is not getting addressed at all. Server bandwidth and performance is ridiculous. You can't even play in cyro. I do think that ZoS is entirely to blame.

    [edited for bashing]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on January 2, 2022 4:33PM
  • Elsonso
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    beer781993 wrote: »
    How would you know that it is a Sony issue?
    Do you have any source with a clear statement?
    Other games have synchronised trophy lists, popping trophies simultaneously on both lists.

    [snip] Ps4 freezes , crashes and bad performance is not getting addressed at all. Server bandwidth and performance is ridiculous. You can't even play in cyro. I do think that ZoS is entirely to blame.

    Well... We know things...

    1) Trophies are stored on the PSN side, so this is not something that ZOS can just fiddle with in their database, like with other account and character things.

    2) We know that ZOS had to ask permission to move trophies from the PS4 version of the game to the PS5 version of the game. What we do not know is whether Sony said No and had to be convinced, or whether it just took them a long time to say Yes.

    Among the things we do not know is when ZOS asked, how many times ZOS asked, and whether any of this happened before the PS5 release of ESO. We will never know this, unless someone let's it slip.

    I know people like to hate on ZOS, as this is a popular pastime around here, but there really isn't a clear indication of how much fault lies at the feet of each party involved.

    I have had more disappointment from Sony decisions over the years than from ZOS. My bias is against Sony, just based on sample size, plus the fact that it is their platform and they should own problems like this. :neutral:

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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on January 2, 2022 4:33PM
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