Account Wide Titles or Achievements

idk

Dragonnord wrote: »

This request again?

Here it goes my answer again, for time 101 (yes, 101 because my answer 100 was just a few days ago on another similar thread):

You get vMA Flawless Conqueror with your OP Magblade (so easy, right?) or easy mode one button Magsorc heavy attack build but, howevery, you stink using your Stamden, and you want your Stamden to have the achievement too, even when you can't get vMA no death with him/her?

Sorry, but don't agree with you OP.
 

While I agree that titles for significant achievements should be character only, I fail to see any real issue with the achievement being account-based. It does not harm anyone. Even a raid guild cares about past achievements for only a brief moment. Everyone has to prove themselves, and their character, raid worthy for that guild or team. So it does no harm for the achievement to be account wide.

Raideen

Tandor wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

YES YES YES being one that has 18 toons on PS4 and 10 on PC because i couldn't stand to play the 1st toon for 6 years full time every time i play the game and my PS4 main being an class thats went from #1 to nothing better then an crafter at times due to (skills , passive , set ) changes that ZOS found needed FORCED reason to play other toons at times ,


AND for all them saying NO how many toons you play ? 1 or do you use CP, GOLD, MATS, GEAR, MOUNTS, PETS, HOMES, ECT. ECT. YOUR MAIN GOT THEM as its in the end the same thing SOMETHING THAT TOON DIDNT GET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have 42 characters but I don't run a main plus alts, they're all equal individual characters across two accounts on two servers. I'd much prefer everything to be character-specific, including CPs, just as some would prefer everything to be account-wide. However, ZOS have struck a decent balance between the two approaches, and we are where we are. I see no reason to shift the balance but if changes were to be made you can be sure it would be structured through the Crown Store just like the skyshards and skill lines. Be careful what you wish for.

How do you have 42 characters on two accounts? The maximum character slots is 18. 18x2=36.

zvavi

idk wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

This request again?

Here it goes my answer again, for time 101 (yes, 101 because my answer 100 was just a few days ago on another similar thread):

You get vMA Flawless Conqueror with your OP Magblade (so easy, right?) or easy mode one button Magsorc heavy attack build but, howevery, you stink using your Stamden, and you want your Stamden to have the achievement too, even when you can't get vMA no death with him/her?

Sorry, but don't agree with you OP.
 

While I agree that titles for significant achievements should be character only, I fail to see any real issue with the achievement being account-based. It does not harm anyone. Even a raid guild cares about past achievements for only a brief moment. Everyone has to prove themselves, and their character, raid worthy for that guild or team. So it does no harm for the achievement to be account wide.

It doesn't matter if they are account wide or not tbh, but an overview will keep character progression untouched, and yet let you track your own progression, and make it part of base UI, not requiring an add-on for it.

idk

Raideen wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

YES YES YES being one that has 18 toons on PS4 and 10 on PC because i couldn't stand to play the 1st toon for 6 years full time every time i play the game and my PS4 main being an class thats went from #1 to nothing better then an crafter at times due to (skills , passive , set ) changes that ZOS found needed FORCED reason to play other toons at times ,


AND for all them saying NO how many toons you play ? 1 or do you use CP, GOLD, MATS, GEAR, MOUNTS, PETS, HOMES, ECT. ECT. YOUR MAIN GOT THEM as its in the end the same thing SOMETHING THAT TOON DIDNT GET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have 42 characters but I don't run a main plus alts, they're all equal individual characters across two accounts on two servers. I'd much prefer everything to be character-specific, including CPs, just as some would prefer everything to be account-wide. However, ZOS have struck a decent balance between the two approaches, and we are where we are. I see no reason to shift the balance but if changes were to be made you can be sure it would be structured through the Crown Store just like the skyshards and skill lines. Be careful what you wish for.

How do you have 42 characters on two accounts? The maximum character slots is 18. 18x2=36.

Truly a good catch. However, multiple that 36 by 2 because each account has access to two servers. I play both of my accounts on both servers.

Machete

Alting in this game shouldn't be punishing. As many others said, do you think your CP was earned by that toon? Your gold? Your dyes and mounts and pets you unlocked for completing hard modes?

I believe trials and dungeons at the bare minimum should be account wide for titles. Solo dungeons? That doesn't bother me, but I can see a point to be made about that. Especial can see an argument to be made for Emperor, which can be a pain to get. I had mained an EP stam DK who got emp, and just recently had to push to get the title on my achievement hunting main, an AD Stam DK.

Not to mention I like to DPS in trials and I have a DK for specifically tanking. Why should I have to respec and remorph my achievement hunting character to participate in a trial since Stam DK isn't gonna make it (Along with any stam, but that's another beast for another discussion!) into a trifecta of vSS or vCR? I got the alts for it, but I'd be punished for being a team player.

barney2525

Like it or not, the Achievements are designed to be applied to the Character - Not the Player

No one has ever answered this : How does a character who has never baited a hook start out with Master Fisherman (or whatever the official title is), or Never been in a delve in a particular zone, why would they have the title that they have completed All the Delves? Or why would every character start with the Master Crafter title?

It makes No sense to arbitrarily apply ALL the titles to Every character just because a single character achieved them one time. That is what the Rewards are for.

IMHO

Thechuckage

Maybe I'm an outlier, but I don't care about titles. Don't use em, don't intended to.

Achievements should be broadly account wide. As long as no perks are attached to the title, then what is the issue?
If you have a title that proclaims you are "the King of Hot **** and you can't back it up? Well it's going to be apparent real quick.

But something more benign, monster hunter. I probably have all the various pieces for that achieve, picked up on random characters. Some got lucky with a werewolf cameo, some the razored mandibles. But if the achieve was combined- BAM set complete.

As always, for those opposed, where is the harm? What does it matter if that particular character has never fished a day. Does it really harm you if they put a master angler title on? Really?

barney2525

I don't use the titles either. I am just saying it makes No sense.

The Game has designed the Achievements to be Character Bound. That's the Game. And That is a Fact.

The Game has also designed the Rewards from the Achievements (such as dyes) to be Account Bound. And that is just a Fact. You can max a vampire and get the white dye, delete the character, and Still have the white dye. You keep the Reward because you did it Once.

If you got the reward, why are people not satisfied? Why do ALL your characters need titles that the Character has not earned?

After all, nobody complains that they have gear on one character, but they can't take it off and slide it over to another because wearing it bound it to the first character. Why is this so acceptable and yet the same system applied to Achievements causes an issue?

It makes no sense.

IMHO

Rezdayn

Machete wrote: »

So here's the proverbial scoop. Most of us who play ESO play different characters. Be it for raid, for PvP, for questing, for PvE, for your group of friends so no one gets stuck in a role. Because with the six classes we have, you also have one of four variants and options (Tank, Healer, Stam DPS, Mag DPS). There are different play styles, choices, builds, theories, and so on that can come from each class. Why do we HAVE to be confined to one for our achievement character?

It just doesn't make sense anymore. The game has been around for 6 years, new content has come out since launch, new stories, new builds. But yet, alting to experience it on a new character or wanting to swap to try out a new class and spec for trials or Cyrodiil is just more punishing. What if you wanna get Gryphon Heart on your main, but your team needs a healer and you are a DPS main? Most fight for their spot because they don't wanna lose that achievement or title spot in raid, or don't wanna have to level that new character because they have to get all the titles and achievements yet again.

I see nothing but a positive to this. Even if you make titles account bound, it still allows for flexibility in content and it even encourages alting and leveling and learning a new class and playstyle. You could keep achievements account wide, as once you have done it on the character the score would now represent your player achievements instead of character, or just keep the titles similar to how we keep costumes, dyes, pets we earn from completing an achievement.

I agree.

I only have one character because I wont spend that amount of time doing another without the achievements.

Banana

I have money zos. Make it happen.

Husan

barney2525 wrote: »

After all, nobody complains that they have gear on one character, but they can't take it off and slide it over to another because wearing it bound it to the first character. Why is this so acceptable and yet the same system applied to Achievements causes an issue?

Nobody complains because this is not the case. I can take off the gear of my main and pass it to my alts through the bank any time.

However, if I go then to kill some mobs with that gear and a trophy drops (some of which I have been farming for YEARS now), there is no way for me to transfer it to my main to get the achievement. Why not?

On the other hand, I can send gold to any character, buy motifs with them and BAM, 50 achievement points for each one. It makes no sense.

Let's have a logical sense of account progression. Let's have account wide achievements. For titles, they can stay character only if it means so much to you guys .

Tandor

idk wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

YES YES YES being one that has 18 toons on PS4 and 10 on PC because i couldn't stand to play the 1st toon for 6 years full time every time i play the game and my PS4 main being an class thats went from #1 to nothing better then an crafter at times due to (skills , passive , set ) changes that ZOS found needed FORCED reason to play other toons at times ,


AND for all them saying NO how many toons you play ? 1 or do you use CP, GOLD, MATS, GEAR, MOUNTS, PETS, HOMES, ECT. ECT. YOUR MAIN GOT THEM as its in the end the same thing SOMETHING THAT TOON DIDNT GET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have 42 characters but I don't run a main plus alts, they're all equal individual characters across two accounts on two servers. I'd much prefer everything to be character-specific, including CPs, just as some would prefer everything to be account-wide. However, ZOS have struck a decent balance between the two approaches, and we are where we are. I see no reason to shift the balance but if changes were to be made you can be sure it would be structured through the Crown Store just like the skyshards and skill lines. Be careful what you wish for.

How do you have 42 characters on two accounts? The maximum character slots is 18. 18x2=36.

Truly a good catch. However, multiple that 36 by 2 because each account has access to two servers. I play both of my accounts on both servers.

Precisely that, as indeed I stated when I said "across two accounts on two servers" as quoted by @Raideen.

qwudd

"I dont want to play that game because achievments are accountwide, and that leads to titles being inapropriately used on undeserving Alts" said no customer in the history of gaming ever.

"I dont want to play that game because it has annoying complicated rules not even concerning actual gameplay that makes things that should be simple and not need to be thought about, instead complicated", said loads of customers in the history of gaming.

richo262

There are some things in this game that really should be account wide, and some that should not.

Achievements can be broken up into Grind, Progression and Collectibles.

Grind achievements - Collect X items, Do Y Quests for Steve, Destroy Z Dolmens these are grind and should be account wide.
Progression - These are actually useful for addons to know what your present character has not done, such as shards, Dolmens (not Z amount, but the Dolmen itself), quests. Progression achievements should not be account wide as they linked to the character.
Collectibles - Most achievements associated with a collectible should be account wide, given the collectible is account wide.

Titles - These should be kept on the character and disconnected from the achievement list and a new, smaller panel called "Character Feets / Reputation / Renoun" or something similar specifically for things like Quest Progression and Titles.

I strongly believe undaunted no death / speed should be account wide, perhaps not HM, that way ZOS can go back to putting high end rewards behind tri-fecta without it being such a chore to earn.

Lorebooks

Trivial - Should be account wide
Motifs - Not account wide
Skill books - Should be found by alts, but if they hit level 50 in the tree, all skill books for that tree should unlock (for completions sake)
Mages Guild - At level 10 mages guild books are collected account wide (for completions sake)

Xebov

Im all for account wide. The current system is inconsistent when it comes to achievment rewards.
Pets, Mounts, Dyes, Skins, Styles, Costume rewards are all account based.
Titles are not.
Furniture can only be bought on the character that got the Achievment but can be globaly used by all chars (they share a house after all).
So some stuff is here and some is there.

In terms of gameplay the situation also makes little sense as it stops players from changing characters or trying something new.

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

This request comes up a lot, but at least you've made some reasonable arguments.

I respectfully disagree. I don't want account wide achievements. I do farm achievements on one character, who respecs to earn achievements that require a different build.

My other 17 characters didn't earn all those achievements, they earned their own by doing what they've individually done.

The achievements and titles are a record of what each character has done, which I quite like. Account wide progress is an often requested feature so I expect it will happen eventually.

There are 2 directions in the community. One side sees chars as individual, the other sees the whole account. That results in one side being happy about per character achievments and the other wanting global ones. There is also a way for both to coexist that was suggested some time ago: Keep character based achievments but also merge all of them together into account based ones. This way you have an overall (account based) progress and an individual (character based) progress at the same time.

Dragonnord wrote: »

You get vMA Flawless Conqueror with your OP Magblade (so easy, right?) or with your easy mode one button Magsorc heavy attack build but, however, you stink using your Stamden, and you want your Stamden to have the achievement too, even when you can't get vMA no death with him/her?
 

So who cares about that? Flawless Conquerer is always brought up during these discussions and its a completely overrated title. The majority of players have no idea what it is and also dont realy care. Its rarely that i ever read titles from players to begin with because there is no reason to do so. Also additionally your argument could even be used against you. If someone did the Achievment years ago when it was alot harder they could complain that you get it nowadays with alot less efford. So not realy an argument here.

Olupajmibanan

Account wide achievements and titles make a lot of sense, but Alliance War ranks shouldn't be included as these reward a skill point. That would be instant 50 skill points on character creations.

Yeah, but the rest of the achievements being account-wide is needed so much. I am a templar healer main, but sometimes we need a Warden healer for our trial tri-fecta progression. I have a warden healer but with very little achievements on her, and I definitely wouldn't want such a hard title like Dawnbringer on a character I don't play (or play very occasionaly). What is holding me from playing my Warden is the fact that achievements aren't account-wide.

hafgood

For me each of my characters is different, the achievements are a record of what that individual character has, well, achieved.

It allows me to keep track of progress on each one.

I'm more than happy with that, in fact I like that, I like getting achievements pop up on one of my characters.

Would I want them account wide? No. Just no.

I understand the argument about gold, about gear, about CP. Those are all account wide, I have no issue with that.

The only acceptable way of having account wide achievements would be an overall listing of all the achievements in the game with the character you earn it on listed. This should be available through the website or an additional frame within the game. It should not override the characters individual achievements nor should it allow a character to use a title they haven't earned.

I want to get all the achievements on one character and if you make them account wide yoi rob me of the ability to do that.

And I don't consider that as being fair. Just because some players want them account wide there are probably just as many that don't.

Casul

Just make a toggle. Then people who don't want it for the sake kf individual character progression can be happy. And the rest of us who just want account wide progression can also be happy. Best of both worlds. And make titles account wide too.

FloydStash

Account wide achievements, period.

Saubon

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

This request comes up a lot, but at least you've made some reasonable arguments.

I respectfully disagree. I don't want account wide achievements. I do farm achievements on one character, who respecs to earn achievements that require a different build.

My other 17 characters didn't earn all those achievements, they earned their own by doing what they've individually done.

The achievements and titles are a record of what each character has done, which I quite like. Account wide progress is an often requested feature so I expect it will happen eventually.

Players earn achievements, not characters. If someone complete HM trial on their main, you can expect they can do it with their alts.

I play 1 mag DD, 1stam DD, 2 tanks, I have 3 characters I play only in BGs. Only one of those characters have over 20k achievement points just because they are spread over my account.

Ashenkin

Those who are against account-wide achievements are already ok with CP, mounts, Mail, costumes, dyes, bank, momentos, houses... etc. Just stop, it's embarrassing.

paulsimonps

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Would love account wide achievements. Been screaming about it for years. I am not sure I want account wide titles, but if the option was both or none, I would certainly chose both.

My solution has always been to leave achievement tabs and titles exactly how they are, but add a separate account wide achievement tab to show progress for the account. You could certainly leave titles out of that. That way, if you like to do things per character, great. If you are like me and play lots of alts and have no interest in chasing the same achieve multiple times, then also great.

I've been asking the same as well. I would be fine if titles were separate as well, but both me and my wife always have the same discussions when doing new content. Oh I need to do it on that character first even though it will be harder or not as fun cause that was our first one that has all the achievements. Account wide achievements is more alt friendly. Makes it more likely that I will run content with characters other than my main. I will be willing to try out more stuff rather than be fixed on: "but my main needs the achivement" all the time.

Dragonnord

Xebov wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

You get vMA Flawless Conqueror with your OP Magblade (so easy, right?) or with your easy mode one button Magsorc heavy attack build but, however, you stink using your Stamden, and you want your Stamden to have the achievement too, even when you can't get vMA no death with him/her?
 

So who cares about that? Flawless Conquerer is always brought up during these discussions and its a completely overrated title. The majority of players have no idea what it is and also dont realy care. Its rarely that i ever read titles from players to begin with because there is no reason to do so. Also additionally your argument could even be used against you. If someone did the Achievment years ago when it was alot harder they could complain that you get it nowadays with alot less efford. So not realy an argument here.

I used vMA just as an example, so call it vMA, Fongal Grotto 1 normal or whatever you like; if your charater didn't complete it then it doesn't deserve the title. A Magblade that has Godslayer is a Magblade that has Godslayer, a Stamblade that didn't put a foot in Fungal Grotto is a Stamblade that didn't put a foot in Fungal Grotto. Period.

Easy mode build characters SHOULD NOT give the titles or achievements to other characters that haven't or can't complete the content. You want it, do it, complete it. Period.

PS: And if vMA is easy or it was easier before or now, that's not the discussion in this thread.

Nordic__Knights

it seems funny that in 2015 everyone was in here wanting VR to be shared between toons because everyone said they would never use another because it would start out with nothing and it was like re starting the game . here we are in 2020 saying its ok that my baby toon can start out with 810cp but its not cool if it shares ACHIEVEMENT POINT because that baby toon didnt get them lol . SO ITS OK THAT BABY TOONS USE 810 CP ( WHAT 9 MONTHS TO AN YEARS WORTH OF PLAY TIME TO GET ) BUT IT NOT COOL IF ITS ACHIEVEMENT POINT FOR KILL 100 PIGS/COWS/SHEEP ( WHAT 4 HRS OF GAME PLAY TO GET ) IS SHARED TOO LOL
ZOS PLEASE MAKE ACHIEVEMENT POINT ACCOUT WIDE , AS YOU KNOW THERE HAS BEEN TIMES SOME CLASSES NO MATTER HOW GOOD PLAYER IS WAS JUST NOT USED IN GAME TO DO ANYTHING FOR MONTHS IF NOT YEARS DUE TO IN GAME CHANGES THAT KILLED OFF TOONS FOR USE NOT PLAYER NEEDING TO GET GOOD BUT CLASS NEEDING TO BE IN LINE WITH OTHERS THAT JUST OUT SHINE ALL OTHERS AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER

ONE WAY TO DO THIS WOULD BE TO UN-LOCK ACHIEVEMENT POINT PER ACCOUNT BUT LEAVE ACHIEVEMENT LOCKED PER TOON MEANING ONLY THE 1ST TOON TO DO AN ACHIEVEMENT WOULD GET AWARDED ACHIEVEMENT AND POINTS 2ND ONLY ACHIEVEMENT BUT NO POINTS AS ANOTHER TOON HAD GOTTEN THEM ALREADY , THIS WOULD LEAVE EACH TOON THE RIGHT TO DO EVERY ACHIEVEMENT OR JUST THE LOCKED ACHIEVEMENT POINTS

Nordic__Knights

Dragonnord wrote: »

Xebov wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

You get vMA Flawless Conqueror with your OP Magblade (so easy, right?) or with your easy mode one button Magsorc heavy attack build but, however, you stink using your Stamden, and you want your Stamden to have the achievement too, even when you can't get vMA no death with him/her?
 

So who cares about that? Flawless Conquerer is always brought up during these discussions and its a completely overrated title. The majority of players have no idea what it is and also dont realy care. Its rarely that i ever read titles from players to begin with because there is no reason to do so. Also additionally your argument could even be used against you. If someone did the Achievment years ago when it was alot harder they could complain that you get it nowadays with alot less efford. So not realy an argument here.

I used vMA just as an example, so call it vMA, Fongal Grotto 1 normal or whatever you like; if your charater didn't complete it then it doesn't deserve the title. A Magblade that has Godslayer is a Magblade that has Godslayer, a Stamblade that didn't put a foot in Fungal Grotto is a Stamblade that didn't put a foot in Fungal Grotto. Period.

Easy mode build characters SHOULD NOT give the titles or achievements to other characters that haven't or can't complete the content. You want it, do it, complete it. Period.

PS: And if vMA is easy or it was easier before or now, that's not the discussion in this thread.

same could be said about your cp too your new toon didnt earn them yet you use them or that VMA staff you got with one toon yet another uses it , or that trials gear you run on an toon that has never done an trial before , or the mount , pet ect ect . this BUT THAT TOON DIDNT EARN IT IS NOT AN REASON TO SAY NO AS TOONS USE LOTS OF THINGS THEY DIDNT EARN

Danksta

There should be account wide achievements as well as per character, not in place of. I disagree with titles though, I like earning difficult titles on different characters.

Tandor

Saubon wrote: »

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

This request comes up a lot, but at least you've made some reasonable arguments.

I respectfully disagree. I don't want account wide achievements. I do farm achievements on one character, who respecs to earn achievements that require a different build.

My other 17 characters didn't earn all those achievements, they earned their own by doing what they've individually done.

The achievements and titles are a record of what each character has done, which I quite like. Account wide progress is an often requested feature so I expect it will happen eventually.

Players earn achievements, not characters. If someone complete HM trial on their main, you can expect they can do it with their alts.

I play 1 mag DD, 1stam DD, 2 tanks, I have 3 characters I play only in BGs. Only one of those characters have over 20k achievement points just because they are spread over my account.

If that is true, why don't those who promote that argument for achievements also ask for account-wide experience and quest completions? Surely when one character has done a stage in the main story quest all the other characters should get the skill point and Soul Magic advancement, because it was the player who did it, right?

AlnilamE

OP, as you can see from the thread, there is a range of opinions even for those that generally agree with you.

For me, an account-wide overview at the character selection screen would be fine, but I do want to keep individual achievements for characters as they are (with the option of being able to flip between characters to see who has done what without relogging, like Kyoma's addon does).

Why? Because it increases replayability for me and encourages me to play alts.

Loot 1000 chests achievement? I'm working on my 6th character. Daedric Generals? The 4th, I think. Cyrodiil map has been completed on 3. Cadwell's Gold on 2 and I have 2 characters working on Silver.

Why would I do these things and play these alts if having done this with my main I'll not be working towards an achievement there?

Also, another thing that you need to consider is that ESO achievements are designed to be character-specific. If they become account-wide, they are going to become a lot more grindy?

Gryphonheart? How about a separate Gryphonheart achievement for EACH CLASS?

Kill 300 dwemer? Make that 3000.

Loot 1000 chests? 10,000 at the least (I'm sure I have looted more than that across my account)

Just look at GW2. They have account-wide achievements, and those achievements pretty much require you to do content repeatedly, including a number that require map completions on different classes. Achievements there are FAR MORE grindy than they are in ESO. Every time I think about working on that, my eyes just glaze over looking at the list. ESO feels much more accessible in terms of working towards achievements.

Ashenkin wrote: »

Those who are against account-wide achievements are already ok with CP, mounts, Mail, costumes, dyes, bank, momentos, houses... etc. Just stop, it's embarrassing.

No, it's not.

We understand that games need to have a balance between character-specific things and account-wide things. Either extreme is not fun.

Though I actually don't use CP on sub-50 characters. They can use them when they can earn them. But that is a personal preference.

WeerW3ir

I agree to do not have account wide achievements

Dragonnord

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

Xebov wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

You get vMA Flawless Conqueror with your OP Magblade (so easy, right?) or with your easy mode one button Magsorc heavy attack build but, however, you stink using your Stamden, and you want your Stamden to have the achievement too, even when you can't get vMA no death with him/her?
 

So who cares about that? Flawless Conquerer is always brought up during these discussions and its a completely overrated title. The majority of players have no idea what it is and also dont realy care. Its rarely that i ever read titles from players to begin with because there is no reason to do so. Also additionally your argument could even be used against you. If someone did the Achievment years ago when it was alot harder they could complain that you get it nowadays with alot less efford. So not realy an argument here.

I used vMA just as an example, so call it vMA, Fongal Grotto 1 normal or whatever you like; if your charater didn't complete it then it doesn't deserve the title. A Magblade that has Godslayer is a Magblade that has Godslayer, a Stamblade that didn't put a foot in Fungal Grotto is a Stamblade that didn't put a foot in Fungal Grotto. Period.

Easy mode build characters SHOULD NOT give the titles or achievements to other characters that haven't or can't complete the content. You want it, do it, complete it. Period.

PS: And if vMA is easy or it was easier before or now, that's not the discussion in this thread.

same could be said about your cp too your new toon didnt earn them yet you use them or that VMA staff you got with one toon yet another uses it , or that trials gear you run on an toon that has never done an trial before , or the mount , pet ect ect . this BUT THAT TOON DIDNT EARN IT IS NOT AN REASON TO SAY NO AS TOONS USE LOTS OF THINGS THEY DIDNT EARN

There are always exceptions that have to be made, or can you imagine having to level up every single alt to 810CP? This game would probably have 15,000 players instead of 15 million if so.

And some other things can be shared between characters, just like yes; items, mounts, etc.

BUT titles and completions? Nah! Complete the thing, get the title, get the achievement WITH THAT SPECIFIC character.