Crystal Shard replaced by Crystal Weapon — please roll back!

Lord-Otto

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Of course. Because it hasn't been useful since 2016. There was not a single argument for spending a slot for Crystal Blast in demanding content. And in non-demanding content, Elemental Ring and lightning heavies did the job better.

I've said it before, but apparently it needs repeating. Crystal Blast was undisputably better than Elemental Ring.

1) It cost less.
2) It dealt twice as much damage (not an exaggeration).
3) It included a stun.
4) It proced Blood Magic and Exploitation.
4) It had a 28m range.

Literally the only advantage Elemental Ring has is being instant-cast, which doesn't really matter in any content where you would actually consider using Elemental Ring (which actually is terrible).

If you actually paid attention to all of the rebalancing over the years, you would know that Crystal Blast has become one of the most powerful AoE skills in the entire game because it hasn't been nerfed like everything else. Unfortunately, most people didn't pay attention because they were so obsessed with the single-target effectiveness of Crystal Frags.

1. Destro skills give you magicka back for killing stuff. Lightning heavies are free and return magicka.
2. But it was slower. If I'm already oneshotting stuff, might as well do it with a faster skill.
3. Irrelevant for trash mobs. Don't need to stun that which dies immediately.
4. Need no heal, need no crit. Stuff dies in one cast, anyway. But Pulsar does have Mangle.
5. Trash comes to you, anyway. Don't need range for that. New Ele Ring does have range, though.

But the most important point is that Crystal Blast just didn't fill a particular role. No need for a class AoE spammable when staves have it. Stamsorcs on the other hand really have almost nothing. Therefore magsorcs lose basically nothing while stamsorcs gain a potential spammable. That's a good trade.

If you're unbuffed one-shotting stuff with Elemental Ring you're running a very different setup from me.

Also, if we want to play the "it's useless because you can get a vaguely similar capability elsewhere" game we could probably get rid of 90% of the class skills in ESO, and Crystal Weapon isn't exactly a step in the right direction (being almost identical to Crushing Weapon, and a stamina spammable, which you can get from any weapon skill line).

Buffed with Major Sorcery. I would only use a skill like that in public dungeons or Skyreach, anyway.
Class skills are usually stronger and synergize with passives. Crystal Blast really didn't do that well. The new stam spammable can be used with any stam weapon. Bow and DW really lack a good instant spammable. Unlike magicka, which always uses staves and therefore has Ele Ring no matter what.
The new Crystal Weapon may not be as great as it could be, but in the desert, you don't question the quality of a drink.

pleximus

They really need to roll this back. Killing trash mobs is a royal pain right now. I've been using crystal blast for years, and to be pissed on like this by ZOS is just infuriating. Introduce a third *morph for stamina users instead of destroying WHAT ALREADY WORKS!!! They keep making sorcs more and more frustrating to play and I'm honestly at the point where I'm ready to give up on this game now.

IBT3434

pleximus wrote: »

They really need to roll this back. Killing trash mobs is a royal pain right now. I've been using crystal blast for years, and to be pissed on like this by ZOS is just infuriating. Introduce a third bar for stamina users instead of destroying WHAT ALREADY WORKS!!! They keep making sorcs more and more frustrating to play and I'm honestly at the point where I'm ready to give up on this game now.

I again totally agree pleximus... I AM WONDERING IF AN ADMIN OR DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS CHANGE ??? BECAUSE THEY ALL SEEM PRETTY ABSENT ON THIS THREAD ????

" PISSED" & "PISSED ON"

P.S and not in the intoxicated way...

IBT3434

lurkin777

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Aertew wrote: »

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

Stamsorc literally had no class spammable till today. Use the other morph for magicka.

so we just gonna ignore the channels from the duel wield skill line huh...

Playing that game doesn't help the argument of the OP.

The person you are quoting clearly meant an in-class spammable skill.

Nobody used Crystal Blast (except perhaps the OP and about 5 others). It was a dead morph and a huge meme of a bad skill.

It is a credit the developers that they recycled a dead morph into something useful for many more players.

Just because you think is was of no use doesn't mean you are correct. I like the multi target effect soloing groups of mobs!

The short cast is only good in PVP if that.

YandereGirlfriend

@lurkin777 It's not just me, that's the whole point!

ZOS wouldn't have eliminated a popular, highly used morph (like, say, Crystal Frags...) and they literally have access to the game's meta data and know exactly just how many people used it.

They already answered this question with the change and their answer was not enough to justify the morph.

lurkin777

You made an assumption with no facts. Just because they changed something doesn't mean no one uses it. It could be that they just wanted to make a morph for Stamina users.

I think they made a huge mistake when they changed all classes to use stamina or magicka for their damage. This has caused all the changes they have had to make to give every class options on both and also made high-bred builds to hard to make.

They left the skill on my characters and required me to respect on all my magicka characters.

Kardrik

See I don't see this whole "Sorcs struggle with groups now because no crystal blast" thing. You know the whole storm calling tree is a thing, right?

I know this isn't optimal, but honestly for solo mobs I use a lightning staff, pop Crit Surge, Boundless Storm, as I am approaching the mob I hit lightning flood, light attack weaving with the guy with the most health I spam pulsar until everything dies. If its a durable mob I also throw in a wall of storms too.

Magsorc has tons of AOE options still, they gave up one of those options so that stamsorcs could have ONE available class spammable.

They took one option out of the magsorc pool and pulled it into the stamsorc pool. Right now as class "spammables" go Magsorcs and Stamsorcs each have a crystal morph.
Whether or not those are ideal in their current iterations is another discussion, but all the same this was the right move.

All the magsorcs here worried about taking one option they had for AOE are not considering that the benefits for stamsorcs outweigh their inconvenience.

Sorry they took away one of your pieces of pie, stamsorcs had no pie so they took one of your 3 pieces to give them 1.

Jierdanit

lurkin777 wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Aertew wrote: »

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

Stamsorc literally had no class spammable till today. Use the other morph for magicka.

so we just gonna ignore the channels from the duel wield skill line huh...

Playing that game doesn't help the argument of the OP.

The person you are quoting clearly meant an in-class spammable skill.

Nobody used Crystal Blast (except perhaps the OP and about 5 others). It was a dead morph and a huge meme of a bad skill.

It is a credit the developers that they recycled a dead morph into something useful for many more players.

Just because you think is was of no use doesn't mean you are correct. I like the multi target effect soloing groups of mobs!

The short cast is only good in PVP if that.

I literally do not know a single player who ever used Crystal Blast over Crystal Fragments wether in PvE or in PvP
it was always the inferior DPS skill for PvE and by far the inferior skill in PvP.

Sarannah

Taken from another thread about crystal blast... the skill worked great for me in PvE and PvP.

Sarannah wrote: »

I really loved crystal blast, for me it was THE defining sorc class skill.

Some classes have an instant spammable skill which does more damage than crystal blast. Crystal blast isn't instant, and is now below average for DPS. Crystal blast compensated this by having an AOE and stun. So in it's current form, it either needs the stun(for PvP mostly), or the AOE(for PvE mostly) back. Or it should be made instant cast, but this I personally wouldn't prefer.

Not many players used it, but I loved it.

PS: The stun gave my pets time to engage the enemy.

IBT3434

Maybe some of the long time users of the forum could explain why when I asked a Administrator or Developer to answer some of the questions being brought up on this subject...they would DELETE IT?

Is that the way ESO SUPPORT NORMALLY WORKS ???

geschaftmaker

Everyone say its *** skill but when I was spamming it I was getting more dps then now when I try to play "as recommended" with weaving and other things. I'm solo noob 300cp though and don't go trials and group stuff and don't even have psijic and undaunted skills and have bum's clothes, may be it's one of the reasons of low dps, but I'm speaking comparatively now and for me playing only solo it was a great aoe skill and now when I weave with Crushing Shock and everything sometimes nothing happens when I'm pressing another skill like Endless Fury or its another morph which never happened with crystal blast when I was just spamming it and then finishing someone with Endless Fury to restore magicka. Mentioned aoe Elemental Ring is weak by damage and by time requiring double pressing to execute so I can't properly weave with it and my "rotation" comes into mess. Dots for 30-60k targets are useless compared to quick aoe damage. So only Crushing Shock and Crystal Fragment proc are working correctly with weaving for me, but they are both single-target. And when I was spamming Crystal Blast the only problem was to aim carefully for the sequence does not stop, and with that fulfilled I had much better results than now shooting individual targets.

Yes crystal blast costs much magicka but along with endless fury and energy overload ultimate it was almost endless for me and performance-wise all this worked smoothly, Critical Surge buff, then instant spamming from long distance while moving back and around targets, finishing and restoring magicka with Endless Fury and Energy Overload, healing with Twilight Matriarch. DOTs Elemental Susceptibility and Haunting Curse for fat targets in public dungeons (those are the best place for Crystal Blast btw, spamming these large groups into the ground, oh boi) and for world bosses (spamming them with Crystal Blast is not a good idea, I fully agree, anyway I mostly avoid them and participated only in daily quests events when there are large groups farming them). Smooth and effective as for solo autistic questing build. I was definitely having fun, and now I feel like they stole it from us, my precious

Obviously not enough damage for serious dungeons trials etc.But I'm fully aware of it and one of the reasons why I'm not joining any group activities is I don't want to "play piano" for hours, I want to play game for fun, so I took Crystal Blast and went spamming it with that silly look on my face, you know. So I can't understand what was the problem with that skill and why nerf if it was so weak and not recommended as everyone explains?

Kardrik wrote: »

All the magsorcs here worried about taking one option they had for AOE are not considering that the benefits for stamsorcs outweigh their inconvenience.

Sorry they took away one of your pieces of pie, stamsorcs had no pie so they took one of your 3 pieces to give them 1.

Seen that way it makes sense though. But I suppose they had to enhance some other aoe spell in exchange for this. They say the game is for solo autists also, not for only MMO, and then they steal the one and only good aoe spell without any compensation while another class is just simply buffed. I don't get it.

ThePedge

Shock Clench

geschaftmaker

No I better quit the game at all.

I've read almost all the thread and fully agree with those claiming it is really unique spell and invaluable for solo casual players. No simple aoe skill replaces it due to above stated reasons like less damage, less radius, and no stun. Anyway those playing only solo will have to significantly harden their fights against groups of mobs.

Please do understand that not everyone is playing trials and arenas and stuff. Not everyone is wanking their puppets to make hell of a dps. Many players come to just relax. You are all definitely cool guys and gals making rotations, high dps, endgame content and everything, grab a prize and be proud, but don't make everyone be the same as you. People above have explained why we need this skill and where, tons of arguments I've seen. But you continue making us to change our style and to harden our life and have no fun from the game instead of saying yeah may be they are right within their playstyle, their main skill was stolen finally, let's be compassionate a bit, unless they are not trying to get into trial with us

If you don't like it just don't use it. Stop telling me why I don't need this skill. Stop telling me how to play my solo. I could understand if I came and said yo guys I'm always been kicked from parties for spamming crystal blast, what the heck and you say lol you're stupid man go get your rotation and stuff, that's ok no question, sure I'd be dumb if I acted like that. But TESO is claimed to be solo-friendly, and now we have the most useful aoe skill for casual solo game just deleted without any other modifications to at least compensate the losses, and you say it's all ok because maelstrom arena, vet trials and [snip] come on guys, we are not talking about this, we are talking about casual solo gameplay. Casual. Solo. Get it? There we go, finally.

If you want to give stamsorc a bonus why not change liquid lightnings, making it average duration, radius and force between the existing ones now, and add this stamina crystal weapon, call it lightning weapon who cares, it would be even better then the absence of lore-logic as when replacing crystal blast with that crystal weapon stuff.

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Beardimus

geschaftmaker wrote: »

No I better quit the game at all.

I've read almost all the thread and fully agree with those claiming it is really unique spell and invaluable for solo casual players. No simple aoe skill replaces it due to above stated reasons like less damage, less radius, and no stun. Anyway those playing only solo will have to significantly harden their fights against groups of mobs.

Please do understand that not everyone is playing trials and arenas and stuff. Not everyone is wanking their puppets to make hell of a dps. Many players come to just relax. You are all definitely cool guys and gals making rotations, high dps, endgame content and everything, grab a prize and be proud, but don't make everyone be the same as you. People above have explained why we need this skill and where, tons of arguments I've seen. But you continue making us to change our style and to harden our life and have no fun from the game instead of saying yeah may be they are right within their playstyle, their main skill was stolen finally, let's be compassionate a bit, unless they are not trying to get into trial with us

If you don't like it just don't use it. Stop telling me why I don't need this skill. Stop telling me how to play my solo. I could understand if I came and said yo guys I'm always been kicked from parties for spamming crystal blast, what the heck and you say lol you're stupid man go get your rotation and stuff, that's ok no question, sure I'd be dumb if I acted like that. But TESO is claimed to be solo-friendly, and now we have the most useful aoe skill for casual solo game just deleted without any other modifications to at least compensate the losses, and you say it's all ok because maelstrom arena, vet trials and [snip] come on guys, we are not talking about this, we are talking about casual solo gameplay. Casual. Solo. Get it? There we go, finally.

If you want to give stamsorc a bonus why not change liquid lightnings, making it average duration, radius and force between the existing ones now, and add this stamina crystal weapon, call it lightning weapon who cares, it would be even better then the absence of lore-logic as when replacing crystal blast with that crystal weapon stuff.

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I get the argument, you just want fun and don't care for performance, that's your stance?

But honnestly the game is SO easy in general overland you can run anything pretty much and melt everything.

You don't have to be looking for the last 0.01% gain to find something way more effective than Crystal Blast, as I put on the other thread. We aren't talking marginal gains here, even overlapping Liquid Lighting & Ele Blockade and heavy attacking will be more effective, next to no skill required.

I get the lamentation of skills you love. I miss overload. But I'm also open to the fact that being effective is the main thing.

Astrid

You realise slotting crystal frags and using it when it procs is 10x more efficient than spamming crystal blast ever was? It was brainless, interruptible and just a genuine meme.

Lord-Otto

See, here's the thing, the hypocrisy with the Crystal Blast users:
You claim the skill was okay for casual players and don't even participate in high-end content. Okay. But when we give you the alternatives, like Elemental Ring, Shock Clench or lightning heavies, all of a sudden those are "NOT GOOD ENOUGH"?
What gives? Are you playing casually or not now? 'cause you can't say "it was bad, but good enough for casual play" and then also say "the alternatives are too bad". It doesn't mix like that. Either you forego competitiveness and casually play in overland with simple AoE spammables, or you put competitive balancing in the argument, and then Blast loses by a landslide. Make up your minds!

Lord-Otto

And aiming at an enemy with Blast doesn't break your fingers? Compared to Ele Ring which you can target anywhere, or lightning heavies which seek targets on their own?

Rastoric

Agree this is a bad change. I've previously tried Frags and it doesn't work with my play style, more ranged aoe. Been playing since week after launch and switched to MagSorc using this skill to build around. In fact my last name at one time was Blastor.. get it? Mainly changed it due the perceived disdain for this skill. Continued to use it.

In my opinion, Sorc should be magicka only. Stamina should be an option that swappped every skill to new versions.

geschaftmaker

Lord-Otto wrote: »

And aiming at an enemy with Blast doesn't break your fingers? Compared to Ele Ring which you can target anywhere, or lightning heavies which seek targets on their own?

Ofcourse it didn't, I'm aiming with my mouse, and you?

I admit my ignorance though, now that I don't have to press a key twice it is much easier to cast a Ring and I even can weave. Thanks again @Chilly-McFreeze. Along with lightnings and storm it may really do the trick. Can't say it's the same ease but for guys lacking any class spammable I could give it a chance.

But I still think that it was better to replace one of Lightning Splash morphs with Lightning Weapon stamina morph and make it spammable, having averaged the Liquid Lightning stats between existing Liquid Lightning and Lightning Flood, they are almost identical actually so no one would suffer from such a replacement.

Hm, I forgot it is aoe dot, so technically it would not be so good-looking lore-wise based on stamina, and making it spammable stam skill just after magicka aoe-dot, well yes, bad idea. They maybe could make a difference in these lightning morphs by letting one of the lightnings move along with player but be weaker, like in elemental rage ultimate morphs. Or enhance the damage of boundless storm. Just thinking.

Now I must admit I was wrong and was just clinging to convenient simplicity while being ignorant of possibility to cast the Elemental Ring by pressing button once and being deaf to the needs of stamina class. Crystal Blast was really easier, but not so dramatically as it seemed to me on the first look. My apologies and thanks for the explanation. Now I better go practice my weaving and stuff, cheers!

Astrid

richi_b wrote: »

After remaining silent and reading my summary is the following:
The effect from removing the skill is:
Who wants to level up a magsorc to become a group healer if you have a hard time surviving in single player mode? As a consequence the concept will die out. And this is would be a bad favour to the players' community.

Um. You realise as a healer your prodominant source of healing shouldn’t be a hard-casted (wound up) crystal frag? You have literally a multitude of restoration skills, a twilight matriarch that is basically a 360 no scope breath of life on steroids, you have an empowered ward granting you and your group members 10% magicka recovery if you feel too squishy, you have power surge which increases your spell damage and heals those around you upon critical healing. If you’re looking for the passive from the dark magic skill line, use dark conversion. It’s literally endless magic and a FAT heal for yourself. Just be mindful of stamina consumption. You have undaunted, psijic skill lines and all sorts to play with as a healer.

As a magsorc healer main that’s the first time i’ve ever heard that being used. What on earth

geschaftmaker

Regarding weaving with Elemental Ring, it's not so cool as it seemed first, there is practically no sense in it because it slows aoe and it is more practical to just spam Elemental Ring if you need aoe than mix it with light attack. Bad news about Restraining Prison, it just immobilizes the foes but they continue distant attacks. So we have Rune Cage and Streak (this one much better) to stun and spammable Elemental Ring. Lightning AOEs seem not very iseful due to fixed relatively small area. Did not try Destructive Clench since I have no decent shock staff but its damage is lesser than those of Ele Ring so I think I better stick with my flame staff anyway.

So now I have Frags, Crushing Shock, Ele Ring, Streak and Inner Light on front panel (+ Storm Atronach ultimate) and Daedric Curse, Elemental Susceptibility, Boundless Storm, Critical Surge and Dark Conversion on back panel (+ Energy Overload ultimate if ran out of mana). So I had to drop pets to have an ability to fight both single enemies and groups, while my beloved Crystal Blast replaced Frags, Ring and partly Streak at once and was much easier, and also I did not have to withstand many enemies right in front of me while bombarding distantly, but ok maybe I'll become a rotation pro and go trials and stuff somedays, I'll definitely give it a try, don't want to drop the game due to laziness.

Is it better to change Crushing Shock to Force Pulse? I was playing with it for a while, but when I spam Ring the enemies do not burn so it looks like elemental effects are rare and interrupting/ off-balancing the casting enemies seems more useful, am I right? And maybe change Susceptibility for another morph to restore mana, but this one can last endlessly if enemy damaged or 20 secs so for fat ones it looks more valuable and the others does not require this at all?

Darkstorne

For some positivity in here, as a StamSorc, I love Crystal Weapon The Psijic version was okay, but I didn't need all that extra healing when I used Critical Surge. Crystal Weapon does more damage and lowers enemy resistances instead, which is a much better setup for StamSorc builds. And now that I finally have a class spammable I can benefit from all the passives. Psijic passives weren't anywhere near as useful.

It must suck if you were one of the (very) few who used this morph before, but imagine how much it would suck to not have a class spammable for 6 years

TochTom

No, let stamsorc have their class spamable skill. Magsorcs should have been using the the other morph at all times, and don't get me started on the stun, because your familiar pet also stuns over time, as for AoE, guess what your volatile familiar does that well, and adding 2 or 3 abilities extra which are Liquid Lightning, Elemental Blockade/Unstable Blockade and a Mystic Orb will far exceed that damage. For AoE damage there has always been the shock clench, which gets a decent buff via the master's lightning staff. Stop grieving about this and move on, let us stamsorcs also have something nice for once.

juliandracos

Fundamentally, I think people are playing two different games.

Prior to this change, I could solo everything but world bosses. I know there are many out there who can solo world bosses, but world events and public dungeon bosses is where I capped at at being able to solo

What I have been leveling on is primarily public dungeons. I could clear those. Now, I know I am not the best. I would occasionally see other players come through and decimate everything faster than I could get 2 spells off. I think they were Templars. It was essentially insta death for whatever was in the area.

So, in the dungeons, I would pull large groups. Everything would die before it gets to me. I basically only needed two spells. I drop lightning and then just used crystal blast. Crystal blast did most of the work. I would never get hit. The mobs were of the 30-60k variety. If there was say a target with 100K+, then that is what I hit with Crystal blast. The reason being all mobs near it would get hit and die.

Cystal blast was significantly more efficient for this content than the other AoE. How do I know? Well first I never died doing this content. Now I do. Quite often until I changed things up (one of the changes is taking on groups half the size). I have to use my ultimate ability. I almost never used it before because there is no reason to. Now, I have to use it to save myself. I have to use healing spells now. I have to use potions now. I have to eat food before entering the dungeon.

I have watched higher CP Sorc play through dungeon content. They kill less than I did before and it takes them longer time. I have picked up on their rotations. Elemental ring is ok, but the damage is much less than I was doing before. What I am forced to do is run around using other AoE to avoid being hit or pop shields/heals and let them get to me and AoE them. When previously they would all die before ever being in melee range.

Now, I mentioned that I have seen Templars kill large groups in these dungeons way faster than me. I am sure those of you walking about efficiency (whatever that means), weaving, rotations, etc. may be able to kill just as fast as that Templar with their glowing spears. However, there are many of us who can't or do not have the time to study all aspects of the game to maximize all this crap to do so.

What I think is really interesting are all of those who are telling us to use the ability how crap it was and to just play like you do. How would you feel if they removed your morph to add the stamina morph? ZOS has a design problem in that instead of expanding options when they make changes, they contract them. Thus, adding something to help stamina means replacing something used by other players.

YandereGirlfriend

A common through-line of many of the pro-Blast contingent is the focus on the stun and mobs not reaching you. Are you not using food that adds Health? Or using Lightning Form for resistances?

With 810 CP properly allocated (and really, with diminishing returns, it ends up being anything above like 400) Overland enemies pose basically zero threat to even a Light Armor wearer.

Plus, you have Critical Surge, pets, and shields to assist with staying alive. There is a reason that bot farms use Sorcerers with Surge and Lightning Form to passively farm Mudcrabs for leather, because the Critical Surge heals and player-based AoE basically ensure that you cannot die. And using an ultimate like Suppression Field is the instant-win button for triumphing over any number of non-boss mobs.

Anyway, I'm not trying to bash but simply want to point out that the magSorc toolkit is already AMAZING for soloing and farming and that it really does not need Crystal Blast to be effective at it.

universal_wrath

New crystal weapon is trash. While is deals a good damage, flurry, wreking/dizzy, and spine do better and have better passives for damage. You say crystal weapon proc blood magic which heals every .5 sec of 10% max health. Unless you are a tank or have a high max HP, it is usless if you put it on bar with crushing weapons heals. Ut deals slightly better damage than crushing weapons, but crushing weapons has spell orb which will put very closly with crystal weapons. Also, there us a reason why almost nobody uses crushing weapons, it is bad because of how it interact with LA and targets which results in a lot of miss fired LAs and direction change of charcter while performing the skill. Crystal weapons act the same so it is clunky unless you use it on a bow, otherwise it is bad and you are better of with other spammables. I'm certain that tge population of people who uses crystal weapons are about same number of people who used crystal blast.

Last point to add, crystal fragment us a cast time skill, it means a very stun in PvP, that alone will not make people use it as spammable in PvP unless they want to die. In PvE, lots of people already pointed out in other threads that it is a dps lot in comparison to pulse abd elemntal weapons. It has the highest damage of all three spammables, but it does not offer anything as a spammble. Ibe mirph if pulse us AOE and other is a range interupt, ele weapons gives high uptime of status effect.

The sad state of the new morhps.....

eKsDee

This is a complete L2P problem. I'm sorry, but if you're both built and playing properly, then there's no need for a ranged AoE skill that stuns, because overland mobs literally just melt even to ground DoT's, let alone a spammable on top of that. Even on a PvP build that is focused more around single target burst, I can slot Blockade and Soul Trap or Mystic Orb, drop them on a group, and watch the DoT's just melt entire groups of overland mobs.

If you're not built or playing properly, that is the problem. Overland is extremely easy provided you have a build that makes even the tiniest bit of sense, and know how to use your skills properly while dealing with the occasional heavy attack or stun from a mob. If it's hard for you, then you're doing something wrong, and that is what needs to be fixed, not a skill being taken from you to give stamsorc a class spammable.

Sorc in general is honestly the easiest class in this game for solo play, so it honestly does make it a tiny bit laughable if you really need Crystal Blast to succeed this badly.

All you need is Crit Surge, a damage shield, like two AoE DoT's, and a spammable that may also act as a flex spot for a pet or whatever if you have a lightning staff and are fine with using heavy attacks instead of a spammable, and you've got a solid one-bar solo build that can be nearly unkillable provided you keep your AoE DoT's down and Crit Surge up.

If you're fine with using a two-bar build, move your AoE DoT's and Crit Surge to your back bar, slot the Twilight Matriarch on both bars for a panic heal, slot Frags next to your spammable for extra single target burst when you need it, and you should have two additional slots as flex spots. Can slot an extra damage shield if you need it, Streak if you need the mobility and a stun, Dark Conversion if you have issues sustaining your magicka, or Lightning Form if you need Major Resolve.

Go with a basic crafted set like Julianos or even Seducer, and Necropotence, and you're good on gear for overland and even normal dungeons without really needing to do any dungeons or anything.

This is a fairly typical change as far as MMO balancing is concerned, and it's one that nobody should even bat an eye to, because Crystal Blast was a bad morph that really offered nothing that other skills couldn't also offer, especially when it was living in the shadow of Crystal Frags which is the much better morph on a proper build.

If you need it back this badly, then the issue isn't that the skill is now gone, it's that you were crutching on a bad skill and simply don't know how to build or play your character properly.

geschaftmaker

@eKsDee
It is all about ease. You spam CB on everything sipping beer and stuff, chilling while questing and reading books. In this respect the easiest for solo is the Templar, after CB is gone, as I see it.

So good news guys, we can go Templars, they are one-bar and easy. We should have listened to those advising us to pick it from the very start or should have checked which is the easiest one for our playstyle, it is MMO after all, being solo friendly does not mean one-button solo friendly, see That's it.

Or you can try that great advice just above. Your choice fellas. Good luck

Lord-Otto

I might sound like a broken record, but Elemental Ring. I have never used a skil as easy as Elemental Ring. Don't have to aim, don't have to time the cast. Even has more range, as the 38 meters are for the middle point, from which the ring gets additional six meters. I don't need a stun in the content you would use a skill like that. Or a heal.

IBT3434

juliandracos wrote: »

Fundamentally, I think people are playing two different games.
juliandracos also said,

" However, there are many of us who can't or do not have the time to study all aspects of the game to maximize all this crap to do so." And....

"What I think is really interesting are all of those who are telling us to use the ability how crap it was and to just play like you do. How would you feel if they removed your morph to add the stamina morph? ZOS has a design problem in that instead of expanding options when they make changes, they contract them. Thus, adding something to help stamina means replacing something used by other players."

NOW I GET IT....
Being a newb (new user} to this particular D&D Based game, I was using Crystal Blast as a way to deal with all the Groups of enemies that would easily destroy me without CB...and not really completely understanding all the comments against Crystal Blast and also the other Skill/Spell setup's damage etc..... But after reading geschaftmaker 1ST post and juliandracos post I understand now why the difference of opinion. "Fundamentally, I think people are playing two different games."

So my question is??? And maybe this should be directed to ESO...Except their Admins won't answer & and my post requesting some clarification was deleted... IS This?? What is the learning curve for this GAME? Because I checked today and Sorcerer Initiate is the recommended class for Newbs !!! And without having all of the other knowledge you guys obviously have "Elemental Ring, Crit Surge, Force Pulse, damage amounts, buffs, etc, you just get you ass handed back to you in every delve and public dungeon especially running SOLO. I've been playing RPG's and video games Since D&D was with pencil, paper and dice....But to come into ElderScrolls as a newb without a high damage ranged skill like Crystal Blast and not having enough time to learn all of the other parts of the game like Scrying, damage, wards etc... I believe removing Crystal Blast was a huge mistake and one that will make ESO lose a lot of potential LONG TIME PLAYERS !!!