Crystal Shard replaced by Crystal Weapon — please roll back!

IBT3434

AND I FORGOT TO MENTION ESO...YOU ARE ALSO GOING TO LOSE OUT ON A TON OF MONEY !!!!!!!!!!

Necoriban

IBT3434 wrote: »

AND I FORGOT TO MENTION ESO...YOU ARE ALSO GOING TO LOSE OUT ON A TON OF MONEY !!!!!!!!!!

1) Can you not scream

2) The majority of players like the change. So yes, they are gonna lose some money. But earn a lot more in the long term

geschaftmaker

@IBT3434

You say you don't want to learn anything, may be it is not quite right attitude bruv, you could at least try couple other skills, there is nothing cosmic there. It's just your habit been ruined, nothing more.

The class is still great and without much effort. You can have 1 bar build for regular questing even on your magsorc (Crystal Frag, Force Pulse, Elemental Ring, Critical Surge, Inner Light - this is my front panel + weaving light attacks). No problem at all. Occasionally I add Haunting Curse on fatties and Lightning Flood and Wall of Elements aoe dots while being under Boundless Storm buff for large groups, all these on my back panel, but that is not necessary. You can even spam Elemental Ring only in most cases.

You can pick Templar if you want even more ease, here are some videos
I've heard passive healing was also nerfed for Templar and now you have to press heal, but hey even in single-player games you have to press several buttons to play.

Yes I agree that in our particular case the learning curve was slightly complicated just by stopping that particular (bad) habit to spam crystal blast on everything, but not so dramatically as implied. You can't have zero effort build at all though. You will still need to press several buttons in any decent game anyway

So you do have options here, calm down and spare your nerves bruv. My best wishes.

AinSoph

geschaftmaker wrote: »

@IBT3434

You say you don't want to learn anything, may be it is not quite right attitude bruv, you could at least try couple other skills, there is nothing cosmic there. It's just your habit been ruined, nothing more.

The class is still great and without much effort. You can have 1 bar build for regular questing even on your magsorc (Crystal Frag, Force Pulse, Elemental Ring, Critical Surge, Inner Light - this is my front panel + weaving light attacks). No problem at all. Occasionally I add Haunting Curse on fatties and Lightning Flood and Wall of Elements aoe dots while being under Boundless Storm buff for large groups, all these on my back panel, but that is not necessary. You can even spam Elemental Ring only in most cases.

You can pick Templar if you want even more ease, here are some videos
I've heard passive healing was also nerfed for Templar and now you have to press heal, but hey even in single-player games you have to press several buttons to play.

Yes I agree that in our particular case the learning curve was slightly complicated just by stopping that particular (bad) habit to spam crystal blast on everything, but not so dramatically as implied. You can't have zero effort build at all though. You will still need to press several buttons in any decent game anyway

So you do have options here, calm down and spare your nerves bruv. My best wishes.

It's called Brutal Honesty which honestly this game's fanbase needs more of. Regulated, obviously.

geschaftmaker

@AinSoph

I was frustrated with this removal myself at first, but then I looked into the arguments and advices and it came out that it was not only no big deal but actually an enhancement and now I'm closer to maybe joining trials and stuff sometime while certainly enhancing my playstyle, so it's win-win for me, finally being freed from this Crystal Blast' dead end, and now I try to explain this to my fellow ex-Blasters

And thanks to those who have opened my eyes here and have shown me the way and for their patience while doing that. My best regards!

pleximus

IBT3434 wrote: »

AND I FORGOT TO MENTION ESO...YOU ARE ALSO GOING TO LOSE OUT ON A TON OF MONEY !!!!!!!!!!

I quit the game yesterday and I most likely will not be returning. I used to have ESO+ on both Xbox and PC since I have friends on both platforms since years back that I play with. But I've had enough of Zenimax's HATE of magsorcs and the gutting of their skills over the years so my payback is quitting the game and not giving them a penny more.

I wish all magsorcs the best of luck in the future because you should expect more gutting instead of restoring the skills to what they used to be.

IBT3434

geschaftmaker wrote: »

@IBT3434

You say you don't want to learn anything, may be it is not quite right attitude bruv, you could at least try couple other skills, there is nothing cosmic there. It's just your habit been ruined, nothing more.

So here's some brutal Honesty bruv geschaftmaker, which you said we need more of !!! Apparently you cannot read, reply or comprehend on this level ?
Because I did not say...or imply that I did not want to learn anything ! I simply asked what the learning curve was, period.
I like the game but just a month in and they take away Crystal Blast and give us the unranged Crystal Weapon IV. And very obviously I am not the only one that has a problem with this ! And to reinforce my point of ESO losing players and money see "pleximus" post above. The reason it was in CAPS bruv, was apparently ESO is not responding to a request for clarification about this change so I thought that by putting it in CAPS and mentioning the possible loss of players and money that they might see the post and reply ! That's all....

IBT3434

And to some of the more long time users, who are able to comprehend at this level...Could you please tell me where to "FIND" elemental ring?
I am not seeing it in any of my listed skill trees. Thanks for your help ~

Kardrik

Its in the Destro staff line, its a morph of Impulse.

Beardimus

IBT3434 wrote: »

juliandracos wrote: »

Fundamentally, I think people are playing two different games.
juliandracos also said,

" However, there are many of us who can't or do not have the time to study all aspects of the game to maximize all this crap to do so." And....

"What I think is really interesting are all of those who are telling us to use the ability how crap it was and to just play like you do. How would you feel if they removed your morph to add the stamina morph? ZOS has a design problem in that instead of expanding options when they make changes, they contract them. Thus, adding something to help stamina means replacing something used by other players."

NOW I GET IT....
Being a newb (new user} to this particular D&D Based game, I was using Crystal Blast as a way to deal with all the Groups of enemies that would easily destroy me without CB...and not really completely understanding all the comments against Crystal Blast and also the other Skill/Spell setup's damage etc..... But after reading geschaftmaker 1ST post and juliandracos post I understand now why the difference of opinion. "Fundamentally, I think people are playing two different games."

So my question is??? And maybe this should be directed to ESO...Except their Admins won't answer & and my post requesting some clarification was deleted... IS This?? What is the learning curve for this GAME? Because I checked today and Sorcerer Initiate is the recommended class for Newbs !!! And without having all of the other knowledge you guys obviously have "Elemental Ring, Crit Surge, Force Pulse, damage amounts, buffs, etc, you just get you ass handed back to you in every delve and public dungeon especially running SOLO. I've been playing RPG's and video games Since D&D was with pencil, paper and dice....But to come into ElderScrolls as a newb without a high damage ranged skill like Crystal Blast and not having enough time to learn all of the other parts of the game like Scrying, damage, wards etc... I believe removing Crystal Blast was a huge mistake and one that will make ESO lose a lot of potential LONG TIME PLAYERS !!!

What an odd rant.

You have come to a game with 10 skill slots and you want to use one.

What possible learning is there to slot liquid lighting, elemental blockade as AOEs and then heavy attack?

Or as above, fire curse , pet and keep a buff up.

Sweet lord if you want a one button game buy double dragon or something

Beardimus

IBT3434 wrote: »

geschaftmaker wrote: »

@IBT3434

You say you don't want to learn anything, may be it is not quite right attitude bruv, you could at least try couple other skills, there is nothing cosmic there. It's just your habit been ruined, nothing more.

So here's some brutal Honesty bruv geschaftmaker, which you said we need more of !!! Apparently you cannot read, reply or comprehend on this level ?
Because I did not say...or imply that I did not want to learn anything ! I simply asked what the learning curve was, period.
I like the game but just a month in and they take away Crystal Blast and give us the unranged Crystal Weapon IV. And very obviously I am not the only one that has a problem with this ! And to reinforce my point of ESO losing players and money see "pleximus" post above. The reason it was in CAPS bruv, was apparently ESO is not responding to a request for clarification about this change so I thought that by putting it in CAPS and mentioning the possible loss of players and money that they might see the post and reply ! That's all....

Honnestly, read the thread, and all the help people have given. they HAVE NOT replaced blast with weopon. The new skill is for a stam sorc. You are a Magsorc (I guess)

Back bar have a buff. Crit surge is good, gives you heals and buffs spell damage 20%

Have lighting and blockade (wall of elements in destro line)

Whack em down

Then go front bar and make a rotation. So heavy attack if you want, but it's easy enough to fire the scamp, fire crushing shock or force pulse until your AOE expires then go back bar and reapply

You will be twice as effective as hard casting cystal blast.

Then have a ward and a heal (twilight / Restro)

IBT3434

[quote="Beardimus


What an odd rant.

You have come to a game with 10 skill slots and you want to use one.

What possible learning is there to slot liquid lighting, elemental blockade as AOEs and then heavy attack?

Or as above, fire curse , pet and keep a buff up.

Sweet lord if you want a one button game buy double dragon or something [/quote]

??? Did I say I only used Crystal Blast exclusively??? And is it necessary to make a DD one button comment Beardimus? Seems to me your the one making the "Odd Rant".

My "Rant" was directed at ESO and not any individual user...But since you mentioned it and without pulling out my old NINTENDO System to check the button config...I am saying this by memory, you had to use Button A & Button B and also what at that Time was called the Control Pad but is now on the Xbox Controller called the "D" pad....In your case I will let you figure out what the "D@#$%^%D Stands for !!!

IBT3434

Kardrik wrote: »

Its in the Destro staff line, its a morph of Impulse.

"Thanks a ton Kardrik"

I guess there's a Small Learning Curve to this Game....lol

Reverb

They will not roll it back. Their intent was to convert the least used morph into a stamina spammable. This change meets their goal, and if they work out the clunkiness of it, Crystal Weapon will be far more widely used than Shard ever was.

This won’t be the last time a skill you love gets gutted, you’ll be well served by learning to let it go and adapt.

Signed - Blinding Flashes user

IBT3434

Reverb wrote: »

They will not roll it back. Their intent was to convert the least used morph into a stamina spammable. This change meets their goal, and if they work out the clunkiness of it, Crystal Weapon will be far more widely used than Shard ever was.

This won’t be the last time a skill you love gets gutted, you’ll be well served by learning to let it go and adapt.

Signed - Blinding Flashes user

I'll give you an insightful simply for the signature tag that is in your posts Reverb and I Quote "This game is so broken I don't even know how people distinguish CE from negligent development"

LOL............................

geschaftmaker

Just out of the Bonesnap Ruins public dungeon with goblins and ogres, fantastic, I soloed them bosses easily, couldn't do that with CB spamming tactics due to duneon tightness, the main thing is you're always being healed due to Critical Surge and no heal pressing required, just do damage and you're all set, I have The Lover boon and Divines clothes, still *** by the way, being couple green-blue mother sorrow with green fire staff, some Vanus/Ysgramor stuff and couple of even non-set but still Divines parts (that was the purpose), but even with that i've been critting enough to rush into mobs and bosses: lightning for crowds, haunting/ endless fury for bosses and pew pew them all with staff and force pulse, hell that was cool, damage and heal, damage and heal. It is much more fun now, I definitely like it.

the1andonlyskwex

geschaftmaker wrote: »

Just out of the Bonesnap Ruins public dungeon with goblins and ogres, fantastic, I soloed them bosses easily, couldn't do that with CB spamming tactics due to duneon tightness, the main thing is you're always being healed due to Critical Surge and no heal pressing required, just do damage and you're all set, I have The Lover boon and Divines clothes, still *** by the way, being couple green-blue mother sorrow with green fire staff, some Vanus/Ysgramor stuff and couple of even non-set but still Divines parts (that was the purpose), but even with that i've been critting enough to rush into mobs and bosses: lightning for crowds, haunting/ endless fury for bosses and pew pew them all with staff and force pulse, hell that was cool, damage and heal, damage and heal. It is much more fun now, I definitely like it.

Is it really necessary to copy/paste the exact same thing into two different threads on the same topic? Pick one and let the other die.

IBT3434

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Is it really necessary to copy/paste the exact same thing into two different threads on the same topic? Pick one and let the other die.[/quote]


Sorry, who was the directed at Skwex ???

the1andonlyskwex

IBT3434 wrote: »

Is it really necessary to copy/paste the exact same thing into two different threads on the same topic? Pick one and let the other die.

Sorry, who was the directed at Skwex ???

@geschaftmaker. I replied to his post in the other thread (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/544083/crystal-blast-is-gone#latest) and then saw he'd posted the exact same thing here. In hindsight, I wish I had swapped my replies, because this thread was still active and the other one had fallen off the front page and hadn't been updated as recently, until he revived it.

IBT3434

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

IBT3434 wrote: »

Is it really necessary to copy/paste the exact same thing into two different threads on the same topic? Pick one and let the other die.

Sorry, who was the directed at Skwex ???

@geschaftmaker. I replied to his post in the other thread (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/544083/crystal-blast-is-gone#latest) and then saw he'd posted the exact same thing here. In hindsight, I wish I had swapped my replies, because this thread was still active and the other one had fallen off the front page and hadn't been updated as recently, until he revived it.

No worries thanks...........

Beardimus

geschaftmaker wrote: »

Just out of the Bonesnap Ruins public dungeon with goblins and ogres, fantastic, I soloed them bosses easily, couldn't do that with CB spamming tactics due to duneon tightness, the main thing is you're always being healed due to Critical Surge and no heal pressing required, just do damage and you're all set, I have The Lover boon and Divines clothes, still *** by the way, being couple green-blue mother sorrow with green fire staff, some Vanus/Ysgramor stuff and couple of even non-set but still Divines parts (that was the purpose), but even with that i've been critting enough to rush into mobs and bosses: lightning for crowds, haunting/ endless fury for bosses and pew pew them all with staff and force pulse, hell that was cool, damage and heal, damage and heal. It is much more fun now, I definitely like it.

@geschaftmaker I love your posts, as you were a big advocate of Cyrstal Blast, but listened to the replies, tried other stuff and now are seeing the performance..

It's actually really great to hear and I hope others will hear the advice and do the same

@IBT3434 rather than battling everyone give stuff a go, Gesch is proof the advice works. Each to their own and all that, but the love of Cyrstal Blast for its effectiveness is misguided.

lurkin777

geschaftmaker wrote: »

No I better quit the game at all.

I've read almost all the thread and fully agree with those claiming it is really unique spell and invaluable for solo casual players. No simple aoe skill replaces it due to above stated reasons like less damage, less radius, and no stun. Anyway those playing only solo will have to significantly harden their fights against groups of mobs.

Please do understand that not everyone is playing trials and arenas and stuff. Not everyone is wanking their puppets to make hell of a dps. Many players come to just relax. You are all definitely cool guys and gals making rotations, high dps, endgame content and everything, grab a prize and be proud, but don't make everyone be the same as you. People above have explained why we need this skill and where, tons of arguments I've seen. But you continue making us to change our style and to harden our life and have no fun from the game instead of saying yeah may be they are right within their playstyle, their main skill was stolen finally, let's be compassionate a bit, unless they are not trying to get into trial with us

If you don't like it just don't use it. Stop telling me why I don't need this skill. Stop telling me how to play my solo. I could understand if I came and said yo guys I'm always been kicked from parties for spamming crystal blast, what the heck and you say lol you're stupid man go get your rotation and stuff, that's ok no question, sure I'd be dumb if I acted like that. But TESO is claimed to be solo-friendly, and now we have the most useful aoe skill for casual solo game just deleted without any other modifications to at least compensate the losses, and you say it's all ok because maelstrom arena, vet trials and [snip] come on guys, we are not talking about this, we are talking about casual solo gameplay. Casual. Solo. Get it? There we go, finally.

If you want to give stamsorc a bonus why not change liquid lightnings, making it average duration, radius and force between the existing ones now, and add this stamina crystal weapon, call it lightning weapon who cares, it would be even better then the absence of lore-logic as when replacing crystal blast with that crystal weapon stuff.

[Edited for Censor Bypass]

This is part of my argument and the other is that all of my mages on all my accounts used this and now I have to respect them all. At least you could have refunded the skill as you left me with a stamina weapon skill. Doing it this way is just not caring for your customers!!

lurkin777

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

A common through-line of many of the pro-Blast contingent is the focus on the stun and mobs not reaching you. Are you not using food that adds Health? Or using Lightning Form for resistances?

With 810 CP properly allocated (and really, with diminishing returns, it ends up being anything above like 400) Overland enemies pose basically zero threat to even a Light Armor wearer.

Plus, you have Critical Surge, pets, and shields to assist with staying alive. There is a reason that bot farms use Sorcerers with Surge and Lightning Form to passively farm Mudcrabs for leather, because the Critical Surge heals and player-based AoE basically ensure that you cannot die. And using an ultimate like Suppression Field is the instant-win button for triumphing over any number of non-boss mobs.

Anyway, I'm not trying to bash but simply want to point out that the magSorc toolkit is already AMAZING for soloing and farming and that it really does not need Crystal Blast to be effective at it.

I don't need someone telling me how to play. Would you like me to tell you how to play!

You seem to have a stamina sorc so I understand why you want and like the change. I an not talking to you as I was making my voice heard that I don't like the change or the way they did it!!

Beardimus

lurkin777 wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

A common through-line of many of the pro-Blast contingent is the focus on the stun and mobs not reaching you. Are you not using food that adds Health? Or using Lightning Form for resistances?

With 810 CP properly allocated (and really, with diminishing returns, it ends up being anything above like 400) Overland enemies pose basically zero threat to even a Light Armor wearer.

Plus, you have Critical Surge, pets, and shields to assist with staying alive. There is a reason that bot farms use Sorcerers with Surge and Lightning Form to passively farm Mudcrabs for leather, because the Critical Surge heals and player-based AoE basically ensure that you cannot die. And using an ultimate like Suppression Field is the instant-win button for triumphing over any number of non-boss mobs.

Anyway, I'm not trying to bash but simply want to point out that the magSorc toolkit is already AMAZING for soloing and farming and that it really does not need Crystal Blast to be effective at it.

I don't need someone telling me how to play. Would you like me to tell you how to play!

You seem to have a stamina sorc so I understand why you want and like the change. I an not talking to you as I was making my voice heard that I don't like the change or the way they did it!!

@lurkin777 Listen, there are plenty of threads on this forum where folks will seem elitist or tell folks how to play in a negative way, this isn't one of them.

This is less experienced players talking about a skill that wasn't that good, and how they miss it / can't cope without it, and then it's others just trying to help.

And those open to listening to the help have adapted and are happy now, in fact better off than before..

If you don't care about performance at all and just miss the skill I get it, but many posts are talking about missing it's effectiveness and it just isn't thus folks are trying to help.

Folks aremt TELLING you how to play. A change has happened, you can't undo, people are posting about that and folks are trying to help. That's it..

IBT3434

Beardimus wrote: »

[quote

Folks aremt TELLING you how to play. A change has happened, you can't undo, people are posting about that and folks are trying to help. That's it..

And from your previous post Beardimus....

you have come to a game with 10 skill slots and you want to use one.

What possible learning is there to slot liquid lighting, elemental blockade as AOEs and then heavy attack?

Or as above, fire curse , pet and keep a buff up.

Sweet lord if you want a one button game buy double dragon or something...

Seems to me that's EXACTLY what your doing......TELLING people how to play !!!

Lord-Otto

IBT3434 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

[quote

Folks aremt TELLING you how to play. A change has happened, you can't undo, people are posting about that and folks are trying to help. That's it..

And from your previous post Beardimus....

you have come to a game with 10 skill slots and you want to use one.

What possible learning is there to slot liquid lighting, elemental blockade as AOEs and then heavy attack?

Or as above, fire curse , pet and keep a buff up.

Sweet lord if you want a one button game buy double dragon or something...

Seems to me that's EXACTLY what your doing......TELLING people how to play !!!

No, he's trying to help you. To tackle harder content. If you don't want to listen and improve, that's fine. But then you have to stay with overland mobs and accept a death here and there. Either you climb the difficulty ladder or you don't. But the game won't bend to your niche. That's what he's telling you.

Beardimus

IBT3434 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

[quote

Folks aremt TELLING you how to play. A change has happened, you can't undo, people are posting about that and folks are trying to help. That's it..

And from your previous post Beardimus....

you have come to a game with 10 skill slots and you want to use one.

What possible learning is there to slot liquid lighting, elemental blockade as AOEs and then heavy attack?

Or as above, fire curse , pet and keep a buff up.

Sweet lord if you want a one button game buy double dragon or something...

Seems to me that's EXACTLY what your doing......TELLING people how to play !!!

@IBT3434 it's HELP. I'm not telling you anything, it's help.

You are annoyed the skill is gone, not me. ZOS aren't gunna put it back and you have countless people telling you how to do better damage if that's what you are after..

It's advice mate, ignore it if you want. But why post about the topic as clearly you don't want to get beyond it.

Sheesh.

lurkin777

eKsDee wrote: »

This is a complete L2P problem. I'm sorry, but if you're both built and playing properly, then there's no need for a ranged AoE skill that stuns, because overland mobs literally just melt even to ground DoT's, let alone a spammable on top of that. Even on a PvP build that is focused more around single target burst, I can slot Blockade and Soul Trap or Mystic Orb, drop them on a group, and watch the DoT's just melt entire groups of overland mobs.

If you're not built or playing properly, that is the problem. Overland is extremely easy provided you have a build that makes even the tiniest bit of sense, and know how to use your skills properly while dealing with the occasional heavy attack or stun from a mob. If it's hard for you, then you're doing something wrong, and that is what needs to be fixed, not a skill being taken from you to give stamsorc a class spammable.

Sorc in general is honestly the easiest class in this game for solo play, so it honestly does make it a tiny bit laughable if you really need Crystal Blast to succeed this badly.

All you need is Crit Surge, a damage shield, like two AoE DoT's, and a spammable that may also act as a flex spot for a pet or whatever if you have a lightning staff and are fine with using heavy attacks instead of a spammable, and you've got a solid one-bar solo build that can be nearly unkillable provided you keep your AoE DoT's down and Crit Surge up.

If you're fine with using a two-bar build, move your AoE DoT's and Crit Surge to your back bar, slot the Twilight Matriarch on both bars for a panic heal, slot Frags next to your spammable for extra single target burst when you need it, and you should have two additional slots as flex spots. Can slot an extra damage shield if you need it, Streak if you need the mobility and a stun, Dark Conversion if you have issues sustaining your magicka, or Lightning Form if you need Major Resolve.

Go with a basic crafted set like Julianos or even Seducer, and Necropotence, and you're good on gear for overland and even normal dungeons without really needing to do any dungeons or anything.

This is a fairly typical change as far as MMO balancing is concerned, and it's one that nobody should even bat an eye to, because Crystal Blast was a bad morph that really offered nothing that other skills couldn't also offer, especially when it was living in the shadow of Crystal Frags which is the much better morph on a proper build.

If you need it back this badly, then the issue isn't that the skill is now gone, it's that you were crutching on a bad skill and simply don't know how to build or play your character properly.

So you think you need to diminish others to try and make your point.

You never talked about how they made the change!

So you don't think that others have a right to play the way they want?

You are welcome to your opinion on things as am I but I thought the skill was one of the best skills of the sorc class for playing the way I like to play.

I will probably never play your way but do not feel I need to be negative about it and try to make you play my way.

I do not agree with a number of your points about the sorc but you are welcome to them.

lurkin777

Beardimus wrote: »

lurkin777 wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

A common through-line of many of the pro-Blast contingent is the focus on the stun and mobs not reaching you. Are you not using food that adds Health? Or using Lightning Form for resistances?

With 810 CP properly allocated (and really, with diminishing returns, it ends up being anything above like 400) Overland enemies pose basically zero threat to even a Light Armor wearer.

Plus, you have Critical Surge, pets, and shields to assist with staying alive. There is a reason that bot farms use Sorcerers with Surge and Lightning Form to passively farm Mudcrabs for leather, because the Critical Surge heals and player-based AoE basically ensure that you cannot die. And using an ultimate like Suppression Field is the instant-win button for triumphing over any number of non-boss mobs.

Anyway, I'm not trying to bash but simply want to point out that the magSorc toolkit is already AMAZING for soloing and farming and that it really does not need Crystal Blast to be effective at it.

I don't need someone telling me how to play. Would you like me to tell you how to play!

You seem to have a stamina sorc so I understand why you want and like the change. I an not talking to you as I was making my voice heard that I don't like the change or the way they did it!!

@lurkin777 Listen, there are plenty of threads on this forum where folks will seem elitist or tell folks how to play in a negative way, this isn't one of them. (what are you doing right now then?)

This is less experienced players talking about a skill that wasn't that good, and how they miss it / can't cope without it, and then it's others just trying to help. (it is how I wanted to play and liked it)

And those open to listening to the help have adapted and are happy now, in fact better off than before..

If you don't care about performance at all and just miss the skill I get it, but many posts are talking about missing it's effectiveness and it just isn't thus folks are trying to help.

Folks aremt TELLING you how to play. A change has happened, you can't undo, people are posting about that and folks are trying to help. That's it..

(what you just did)



I guess we have been reading different posts. Many of the comment talk about no knowing how to play because I and other like this skill over the others and we should change to this or that!!!

That is telling me how to play.

Also how do you know that everyone that changed likes it better and are happy?

They are making the classes more and more generic. If you play magicka use these skills and it you do stamina use these. I don't like that! They are making changes every time that make on classes more alike. Do you know why? I believe that it is all for PVP. They can't seem to balance PVP.

Reverb

lurkin777 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

lurkin777 wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

A common through-line of many of the pro-Blast contingent is the focus on the stun and mobs not reaching you. Are you not using food that adds Health? Or using Lightning Form for resistances?

With 810 CP properly allocated (and really, with diminishing returns, it ends up being anything above like 400) Overland enemies pose basically zero threat to even a Light Armor wearer.

Plus, you have Critical Surge, pets, and shields to assist with staying alive. There is a reason that bot farms use Sorcerers with Surge and Lightning Form to passively farm Mudcrabs for leather, because the Critical Surge heals and player-based AoE basically ensure that you cannot die. And using an ultimate like Suppression Field is the instant-win button for triumphing over any number of non-boss mobs.

Anyway, I'm not trying to bash but simply want to point out that the magSorc toolkit is already AMAZING for soloing and farming and that it really does not need Crystal Blast to be effective at it.

I don't need someone telling me how to play. Would you like me to tell you how to play!

You seem to have a stamina sorc so I understand why you want and like the change. I an not talking to you as I was making my voice heard that I don't like the change or the way they did it!!

@lurkin777 Listen, there are plenty of threads on this forum where folks will seem elitist or tell folks how to play in a negative way, this isn't one of them.

This is less experienced players talking about a skill that wasn't that good, and how they miss it / can't cope without it, and then it's others just trying to help.

And those open to listening to the help have adapted and are happy now, in fact better off than before..

If you don't care about performance at all and just miss the skill I get it, but many posts are talking about missing it's effectiveness and it just isn't thus folks are trying to help.

Folks aremt TELLING you how to play. A change has happened, you can't undo, people are posting about that and folks are trying to help. That's it..

I guess we have been ready different posts. Many of the comment talk about no knowing how to play because I and other like this skill over the others and we should change to this or that!!!

That is telling me how to play.

Also how do you know that everyone that changed likes it better and are happy?

They are making the classes more and more generic. If you play magicka use these skills and it you do stamina use these. I don't like that! They are making changes every time that make on classes more alike. Do you know why? I believe that it is all for PVP. They can't seem to balance PVP.

The primary driver for this change was to give stam sorcs a spammable for pve dps. I know that people love to blame pvp for changes they don’t like, but it’s often not the case. You seem rooted in anger and blame about this, and I get it, we’ve all been verging degrees of upset when a skill we love gets gutted. But the bottom line is that it’s not going to change back, and you need to adapt.

Maybe that means adapting to a life without eso because you’re unable to move on from this skill change, but if you decide to adapt to playing sorcs with the changes, there’s plenty of good advice in this thread