ZOS we need to talk about this outfit.

Olauron

There are a lot of motifs and costumes with skirts. It is good to have something with shorts too. The flap is ugly, though.

MaleAmazon wrote: »

Holy Almalexia.

Agree with OP. Either make it hotpants (silly, but at least coherent), put in a skirt or put on some pants. Crotch flaps and oversized shoulder pads are the plague of fantasy outfit design.

If you agree with OP, why are you summoning Almalexia? She would definitely not agree with OP.

Syldras

Tigerseye wrote: »

I, on the other hand, do not like long, full skirts much.
They're impractical and overly girly looking.

Of course your personal opinion is valid, but I'm wondering why long skirts are "girly"? Masses of mages in ESO run around in robes - which are, actually, nothing else than dresses, if you look at the shape of the garment. The traditional Dunmer "robe" (in ESO as the "Sixth House robe" costume) isn't even a robe but a combination of long skirt, shirt, jacket and belt.

Olauron wrote: »

If you agree with OP, why are you summoning Almalexia? She would definitely not agree with OP.

No shorts, no overknee boots Plus, all parts have the same style and fit together.

MornaBaine

Bottom line: crotch flaps don't belong on almost anything. They are BARELY acceptable on SOME armor. But NEVER on clothing!

The booty shorts just look completely out of place on this outfit. End of story.

I am not opposed to skimpy clothing. I have no objection to this outfit:



In fact, that outfit is even skimper than the one under discussion. But it looks like something that belongs in the world of Nirn, not some atrocity cobbled together at Hot Topic.

Pauls

This is special outfit for vampire [snip] RP

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MasterSpatula

I'm a bit confused here. Is this supposed to be Columbia, Janet, or Brad?

Mettaricana

Keep it as is zos has never made a skirt look good on anything ever. Plus we haven't seen a thigh on anything yet

MornaBaine

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

I'm guessing you're aware by now, @MornaBaine, but not everything that is datamined makes it to Live.

Gods I hope and pray this crime against fashion does NOT ever make it to live.

mattaeus01b16_ESO

Lose the mudflap, and add a Victorian Gothic cocktail skirt/dress *nods*

MornaBaine

Mettaricana wrote: »

Keep it as is zos has never made a skirt look good on anything ever. Plus we haven't seen a thigh on anything yet

Not true. The other outfit I posted clearly shows a lot of thigh. It is, in fact, a rather daring miniskirt. And it'd be cool if they did some more things like that. Heck, they can even do the shorts if they really want to... on something else. They just don't belong with that top!

Shewolf075

If anything, would be good if the art team could take a little more inspiration from the other old designs of previous TES titles, such like the vampires from TESII: Daggerfall as one example of a simple and effective, classic and not too modern. I know folks don't like those "flaps" but they can look great depending on the design.

LadyNalcarya

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

The crotch flap is probably just a nod toward modesty. Without it we're just inching closer to TERA.
And short-shorts plus thigh gap emphasizing high boots is too juvenile in comparison to the upper part of the costume -- which despite the cleavage window still has a much more mature look.
Short-shorts are also sort of anachronistic. Overall that is the one piece that is out of place in the outfit so they sort-of covered it up with the front flap. They were probably working hard to get the bare thighs in there somehow.

I don't really think that vampire nobles care about modesty. And those shorts are not particularly revealing, a lot of people irl wear shorts like these during summer (well, obviously not the leather fantasy kind, but same length).
Besides, it's kinda stupid to censor character's legs in a game that features blood, torture, invasions from hell and such.

Thevampirenight

Not often you get shorts in a costume so I would say its modest for the type of outfit it is. Since its not really skimpy but does reveal legs. At least in my opinion. Lets get that into the crown store please!. Though maybe it would look good with a more skirt not a long one a more modest one. Kinda like the Altmer hero. But at the same time they could remove the coat and it would look good with the shorts. I don't know on this one. Will be interesting.

Thannazzar

Your assuming its a costume, might be a house guest, if so definitely buying!

Syldras

Shewolf075 wrote: »

If anything, would be good if the art team could take a little more inspiration from the other old designs of previous TES titles, such like the vampires from TESII: Daggerfall as one example of a simple and effective, classic and not too modern.

As long as they don't bring back the dancers in red bikinis. The ones dancing around Mannimarco's white marble coffin, I mean.

Grianasteri

Why is everyone talking about crotch flaps? That is no way to talk [snip]. Be respectful.

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InaMoonlight

I just object against the crotchflap, and if it could be entirely dyed, I think I could make it work for my khajiit

Isaura

Yeah, it feels like she just got out of bed (or coffin or whatever) and forgot to put on some pants or a skirt Could have been gorgeous, I like the top part

Syldras

Isaura wrote: »

Yeah, it feels like she just got out of bed (or coffin or whatever) and forgot to put on some pants or a skirt Could have been gorgeous, I like the top part

Maybe it's No Pants Day?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Pants_Day
Wikipedia says it's in May, but who knows how the customs in Tamriel are.

BisDasBlutGefriert

I don't know, but that looks like a fortnite skin, not an eso outfit to me. (Shrugs)

Nemesis7884

Shewolf075 wrote: »

If anything, would be good if the art team could take a little more inspiration from the other old designs of previous TES titles, such like the vampires from TESII: Daggerfall as one example of a simple and effective, classic and not too modern. I know folks don't like those "flaps" but they can look great depending on the design.

that looks really nice

Anumaril

Oh my that looks hideous. The top looks fine enough, but for the love of all that is holy, please change the bottom to be a gown, tunic, or just regular trousers.

valkyrie93

nah i like it with the shorts. my char will probably wear it for a bit for what it's worth, girl gamer here too. don't care and actually like that there's another skimpy outfit lol. there are so many non-skimpy ones to choose from..

Magenpie

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

It definitely needs a skirt instead of the flap. A gothic-themed, short skirt would work wonders.

that might work well indeed...just not a skirt all the way to the ground that doesnt show boots

To be honest @Nem

MasterSpatula wrote: »

I'm a bit confused here. Is this supposed to be Columbia, Janet, or Brad?

Y'know I think you've hit closest to the mark with the problem, along with @Dusk_Coven's comment about anachronism.

The language being used is interesting too. It's not that people think it's too skimpy, it's that it looks 'trashy', silly and just not very nice. What's more, I think those views are very much connected to the modern real world. So some people might think that particular 'look' sparks their...ahem...interests, as it were, which is why there are comments about [snip] etc. It's kind of Caberet too? And y'know what, that's fine if that's what floats your boat.

But ESO isn't set in that kind of place, we're supposed to be in a fantasy world of ...*waves arms about*...the past. I'm struggling because on the one hand it feels like we're meant to be in a kind of early Middle Ages (oh and Rome for heaven's sake) but then you've got costumes like 'Holiday in Balmora' which lands about 1200 years later than that, so who the bloody hell knows *shrugs*.

I just think this costume is a bridge too far into the Nope in terms of the land we're supposed to inhabit here. And it looks silly. Do people really want their Vamps to look silly?

Does that make any sense?

Loads of Edits because I wroted badde.

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agegarton

Looks like she went out and forgot to finish getting dressed.

Magenpie

Shewolf075 wrote: »

If anything, would be good if the art team could take a little more inspiration from the other old designs of previous TES titles, such like the vampires from TESII: Daggerfall as one example of a simple and effective, classic and not too modern. I know folks don't like those "flaps" but they can look great depending on the design.

See I don't think of those as 'flaps' - that's a dress with very deep splits up the thigh. That's fine and would look good if it was done well. The flaps we have on ESO armour are awkward and cardboard stiff, and don't sit nicely often ruining a perfectly good outfit piece or costume.

Moonsorrow

Would look cool without that silly crotch flap..

ZOS, whoever designs costumes there - could you tell them to stop putting crotch flaps on them? Not only they look bad, but they also flip with the rest of the costume on many Personalities, like on the Brassy Assassin SO many flaps clip in and out through the bottom half of the costume, looks bad.

Ringing_Nirnroot

Looks like someone forget to put their pants on

Raudgrani

Booty shorts AND butt flap, now that's a failure. Seems to me you are mostly upset about the shorts thing, and that sort of concerns me. What's with this fundamental religious kind of stance young people have today? If people want to wear booty shorts - here or in real life - let them.

In some parts of the world, many people are fighting and being jailed or even killed, over the simple fact that they want to dress the way they want. Try to remember this. If you don't like that kind of garment, don't use it - but don't try to stop others from using it.

Hurbster

Looks fine but the crotch flap is silly.

SpacemanSpiff1

the flap looks weird, but the rest is fine. id prefer it without full gloves though.