This event...

ZaroktheImmortal

VoxAdActa wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

The event tickets require that.

Once again, no they don't. They're in the crown store.

I see. And you're going to pay for the crowns for everyone to get tickets who doesn't want to participate I assume?

ZaroktheImmortal

KaGaOri wrote: »

Have been around for only handfull of events so far, but is getting the tickets this time around tad harder compared with last time, or is it just me? Like, even just getting three wins in battlegrounds (= 2 tickets) is big jump from "eat the cake + kill one delve boss = 4 tickets" from the last event, both timewise and difficultywise. Maybe that's why PvE players complain and PvP players don't. There's big difference in taking ten minutes to do something they find kind of borring and taking whole evening trying to do something they borderline can't do.

Went to IC for first time for this event. Took ten minutes just to figgure out where to find quest givers for dailies (that one's on me, lol). Grabbed daily from the only district held by my faction. It asked me to hunt twilights for claws - no problem here. Then I was supposed to throw it in a cauldron. There was enemy player camping the cauldron, killing anyone who tried to interact with it. Got chased around and killed. Respawned at base, but game wouldn't let me climb back into district where the quest was - had to go to the one next to it (controled by enemy) and it took five or six deaths just to get back there. My faction lost that single district in meantime. No idea where my faction went, saw only groups of players from other two factions from that point on. The daily took over two hours (and many many deaths) to complete. Dying I don't mind, but simply can't afford such timesink on daily bases.

On weekend I've lucked out and half of IC was controled by my faction at that moment - managed to stack on dailies a bit. Today the IC was once more "owned" by other factions at time I could play = no daily done due to time constrains. Kinda miss eating cake for tickets .

Yeah some pvpers will camp or find spots to get people going for the quests and what not just to annoy them. And this is exactly why the 'oh there is so many pve events' doesn't add up the same.

jaws343

KaGaOri wrote: »

Have been around for only handfull of events so far, but is getting the tickets this time around tad harder compared with last time, or is it just me? Like, even just getting three wins in battlegrounds (= 2 tickets) is big jump from "eat the cake + kill one delve boss = 4 tickets" from the last event, both timewise and difficultywise. Maybe that's why PvE players complain and PvP players don't. There's big difference in taking ten minutes to do something they find kind of borring and taking whole evening trying to do something they borderline can't do.

Went to IC for first time for this event. Took ten minutes just to figgure out where to find quest givers for dailies (that one's on me, lol). Grabbed daily from the only district held by my faction. It asked me to hunt twilights for claws - no problem here. Then I was supposed to throw it in a cauldron. There was enemy player camping the cauldron, killing anyone who tried to interact with it. Got chased around and killed. Respawned at base, but game wouldn't let me climb back into district where the quest was - had to go to the one next to it (controled by enemy) and it took five or six deaths just to get back there. My faction lost that single district in meantime. No idea where my faction went, saw only groups of players from other two factions from that point on. The daily took over two hours (and many many deaths) to complete. Dying I don't mind, but simply can't afford such timesink on daily bases.

On weekend I've lucked out and half of IC was controled by my faction at that moment - managed to stack on dailies a bit. Today the IC was once more "owned" by other factions at time I could play = no daily done due to time constrains. Kinda miss eating cake for tickets .

You don't have to win 3 BGs. Just keep dropping and picking up the BG daily until it turns into thr Earn 1000 points. You can do that it one match and be done with BGs for the day if you want. Not need to win 3 or participate in 5.

As far as IC. You are actually better off doing the daily in an enemy section of the city. One that is in the middle of the sections they hold. Less likely to run into them their as the ones who are fighting will be heading towards your alliances sections.

killingspreeb16_ESO

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

VoxAdActa wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

The event tickets require that.

Once again, no they don't. They're in the crown store.

I see. And you're going to pay for the crowns for everyone to get tickets who doesn't want to participate I assume?

What kind of logic is that?

If you really want something from this event but really hate PvP then you can buy the crown with gold/real money and get what you need and call it a day.

If i really need something from PvE then i go and do PvE to get the things i need without complaining on the forum but like me many people said this more than one time yet you guys fail to understand even basic stuff.

Thread/post like this one really make me want to go and camp every PvE player i see on a PvP area.

Pink_Pixie

I was rather resistant to doing the PvP event, but found I actually enjoy it, more so in Cyrodiil than Imperial City. It would of been better to get four tickets from battlegrounds, Cyrodiil or imperial city. As I don't enjoy the Imperial city that much, but alas they put two tickets there.

StaticWave

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

There are only TWO of these events per year... The same reasoning can be said for content that forces PvPers to do PvE to get what they want. I'm sorry but I don't want to grind a dungeon countless times to get a 5 piece set, or go through months and months of prog runs to get a skin in a trial.

Just deal with it

FlopsyPrince

VoxAdActa wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

The event tickets require that.

Once again, no they don't. They're in the crown store.

That is not an acceptable alternative. I have plenty of money and I don't want to spend more on tickets. You may enjoy that, but I doubt you will find many who would prefer to buy tickets.

FlopsyPrince

StaticWave wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

There are only TWO of these events per year... The same reasoning can be said for content that forces PvPers to do PvE to get what they want. I'm sorry but I don't want to grind a dungeon countless times to get a 5 piece set, or go through months and months of prog runs to get a skin in a trial.

Just deal with it

I don't grind dungeons either. I either buy them or use something else. Not a valid point.

FlopsyPrince

killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »

Thread/post like this one really make me want to go and camp every PvE player i see on a PvP area.

Plenty already do that and this is a big part of the problem.

This event also means I pretty much only run my pet sorc main through things, since I am not great at burst damage and self heals on my other alts. So they get unplayed because getting ganked is so likely.

MarshRangerHaz

VoxAdActa wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

The event tickets require that.

Once again, no they don't. They're in the crown store.

250 crowns per event ticket is absolutely obscene though. You're looking at, what, 40 tickets for the base Indrik, then another 40 for the berries? 20k crowns overall which is a little over £100 I believe.

That is just...not a realistic alternative.


Any event that has these tickets should have options for PvE zones as well as PvP. That way, everyone would be happy less upset.

ZaroktheImmortal

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

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This exactly. This event has reminded me why I find pvp so draining.

ZaroktheImmortal

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »

Thread/post like this one really make me want to go and camp every PvE player i see on a PvP area.

Plenty already do that and this is a big part of the problem.

This event also means I pretty much only run my pet sorc main through things, since I am not great at burst damage and self heals on my other alts. So they get unplayed because getting ganked is so likely.

Yep it's already happening full on zergs going for pvers in imperial city now simply to kill them off then camping their spawn points. And people wonder why some don't want to go on a pvp event hmm I wonder.

FlopsyPrince

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »

Thread/post like this one really make me want to go and camp every PvE player i see on a PvP area.

Plenty already do that and this is a big part of the problem.

This event also means I pretty much only run my pet sorc main through things, since I am not great at burst damage and self heals on my other alts. So they get unplayed because getting ganked is so likely.

Yep it's already happening full on zergs going for pvers in imperial city now simply to kill them off then camping their spawn points. And people wonder why some don't want to go on a pvp event hmm I wonder.

I just got hit by one of those trying to do a quest. No choice with lots of AD controlled areas. I am sure this is fun for them, but is that really what is intended?

ZaroktheImmortal

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »

Thread/post like this one really make me want to go and camp every PvE player i see on a PvP area.

Plenty already do that and this is a big part of the problem.

This event also means I pretty much only run my pet sorc main through things, since I am not great at burst damage and self heals on my other alts. So they get unplayed because getting ganked is so likely.

Yep it's already happening full on zergs going for pvers in imperial city now simply to kill them off then camping their spawn points. And people wonder why some don't want to go on a pvp event hmm I wonder.

I just got hit by one of those trying to do a quest. No choice with lots of AD controlled areas. I am sure this is fun for them, but is that really what is intended?

I think some just like to troll other people which again goes back to the point of having pvp events how it can turn into a toxic mess.

eKsDee

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Urvoth wrote: »

You're triggered over a PvP event when pretty much every other event is PvE. PvPers have to do PvE for the PvE events, just like you have to do some PvP content for Midyear, it's not unfair or bad design in any way. If you don't want to do PvP, just skip this event, just like what tons of PvPers do for the PvE events.

Honestly I've seen pvpers complaining about pvers in their pve and some saying they'd keep killing them till they all leave. The event is aimed at rewards that have more interest to pve players aside from the extra ap during event to get pvers in it.

Um...did you really just say that THE PvP event, featuring double reward for killing other players, is somehow targetting PvEers?o.O The very idea of Midyear Mayhem is double AP. MM without double AP is like fishing without fish or MA without MA weapons.

It gives out berries for some indrik mount and style pages for new outfits. I don't know many pvpers who care much of that side. But the other events for these mounts have been pve related and then they put a pvp one...so umm yeah it kind of is aimed to get them involved. And why do you think they put extra instances of all the pvp? Cause they knew pvers would come to it.

Midyear Mayhem only started giving tickets/berries out when those were first introduced to the game. Before then, it just gave double AP and extra reward containers whenever you earned Rewards of the Worthy boxes. Midyear Mayhem has always been a PvP event at heart.

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »

Shokner wrote: »

Crimsonwolf666 wrote: »

No one is forcing you to PVP. THe rewards your get, minus the double AP, are PURELY cosmetic...it won't help you make that Vet dungeon run of March of Sacrifices better, it won't help you heal and mitigate damage from Lord Falgravan in Aegis Trial. These events are PURELY cosmetic. Complaining as a PVEer or PvPer is a waste of time. Its money for ZoS, plain and simple. If you want cosmetics, than you need to expand your horizons. I was 100% a PVEer only, but (minus the infinite amount of bugs Cyrodiil has, can't lie about that) I grew to enjoy PvP and the comradery or in some case the greater rivalry that can take place. These events are optional. Nothing you can do about it except participate or not to participate.

Sort of doesn't make sense can you name another way as to get this cosmetic which everyone understands gives no other benefit to the game. This means your forced to play it if you really want it unless they run another event during the year that gives the opportunity to get this cosmetic for non pvpers.

Like buy them with crowns?or gold from guild store?

PvE player are so spoiled,every game they need to complain about PvP even if is just for a cosmetic.

I want all the monster set,arena weapon skin,player skin,motif and title from PvE without do any form of PvE why i can't talk it out with boss in the dungeon with my high carisma and tell them to just give me the loot?
PvE DLC should just be removed from the game!

Sound stupid right?because that is what most PvE player argument sound,stupid as hell.

Also to the guy saying PvPer don't care about cosmetic you are so wrong,the difference is PvPer don't cry at every thing that is outside their main content.

Umm yeah they do cry about stuff outside of their own content. I've seen pvpers complaining about the game being too pve focused. Complaining that the game was so much better at the start and too many pvers. Oh and even before the event started the forums had pvp players whining about the pvp event cause they didn't want pvers in pvp and as I've stated several times before even bragging about killing them to make them leave. But pvpers don't complain right?

Most of the time, it's in response to PvE'rs complaining, by bringing up this double standard. It's apparently the worst thing in the world to force a PvE'r to PvP, but it's fine for PvP'rs to PvE not only for the vast majority of events, but also to earn gear and unlock skill lines for their characters? That's the point of PvP'rs complaining about having to do PvE, most of the time.

Of course you have those who genuinely feel that they shouldn't have to delve so deep into PvE to perform effectively in PvP, which I understand, though I feel it's healthy for the game, to encourage players to participate in everything the game has to offer.

Still though, most just don't care, they're fine with doing both.

ZaroktheImmortal

eKsDee wrote: »

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Urvoth wrote: »

You're triggered over a PvP event when pretty much every other event is PvE. PvPers have to do PvE for the PvE events, just like you have to do some PvP content for Midyear, it's not unfair or bad design in any way. If you don't want to do PvP, just skip this event, just like what tons of PvPers do for the PvE events.

Honestly I've seen pvpers complaining about pvers in their pve and some saying they'd keep killing them till they all leave. The event is aimed at rewards that have more interest to pve players aside from the extra ap during event to get pvers in it.

Um...did you really just say that THE PvP event, featuring double reward for killing other players, is somehow targetting PvEers?o.O The very idea of Midyear Mayhem is double AP. MM without double AP is like fishing without fish or MA without MA weapons.

It gives out berries for some indrik mount and style pages for new outfits. I don't know many pvpers who care much of that side. But the other events for these mounts have been pve related and then they put a pvp one...so umm yeah it kind of is aimed to get them involved. And why do you think they put extra instances of all the pvp? Cause they knew pvers would come to it.

Midyear Mayhem only started giving tickets/berries out when those were first introduced to the game. Before then, it just gave double AP and extra reward containers whenever you earned Rewards of the Worthy boxes. Midyear Mayhem has always been a PvP event at heart.

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »

Shokner wrote: »

Crimsonwolf666 wrote: »

No one is forcing you to PVP. THe rewards your get, minus the double AP, are PURELY cosmetic...it won't help you make that Vet dungeon run of March of Sacrifices better, it won't help you heal and mitigate damage from Lord Falgravan in Aegis Trial. These events are PURELY cosmetic. Complaining as a PVEer or PvPer is a waste of time. Its money for ZoS, plain and simple. If you want cosmetics, than you need to expand your horizons. I was 100% a PVEer only, but (minus the infinite amount of bugs Cyrodiil has, can't lie about that) I grew to enjoy PvP and the comradery or in some case the greater rivalry that can take place. These events are optional. Nothing you can do about it except participate or not to participate.

Sort of doesn't make sense can you name another way as to get this cosmetic which everyone understands gives no other benefit to the game. This means your forced to play it if you really want it unless they run another event during the year that gives the opportunity to get this cosmetic for non pvpers.

Like buy them with crowns?or gold from guild store?

PvE player are so spoiled,every game they need to complain about PvP even if is just for a cosmetic.

I want all the monster set,arena weapon skin,player skin,motif and title from PvE without do any form of PvE why i can't talk it out with boss in the dungeon with my high carisma and tell them to just give me the loot?
PvE DLC should just be removed from the game!

Sound stupid right?because that is what most PvE player argument sound,stupid as hell.

Also to the guy saying PvPer don't care about cosmetic you are so wrong,the difference is PvPer don't cry at every thing that is outside their main content.

Umm yeah they do cry about stuff outside of their own content. I've seen pvpers complaining about the game being too pve focused. Complaining that the game was so much better at the start and too many pvers. Oh and even before the event started the forums had pvp players whining about the pvp event cause they didn't want pvers in pvp and as I've stated several times before even bragging about killing them to make them leave. But pvpers don't complain right?

Most of the time, it's in response to PvE'rs complaining, by bringing up this double standard. It's apparently the worst thing in the world to force a PvE'r to PvP, but it's fine for PvP'rs to PvE not only for the vast majority of events, but also to earn gear and unlock skill lines for their characters? That's the point of PvP'rs complaining about having to do PvE, most of the time.

Of course you have those who genuinely feel that they shouldn't have to delve so deep into PvE to perform effectively in PvP, which I understand, though I feel it's healthy for the game, to encourage players to participate in everything the game has to offer.

Still though, most just don't care, they're fine with doing both.

Like I've said if it wasn't for trolls targeting pve players to make it harder for them to do their quests and boss kills just to annoy them it wouldn't be such an issue. But fact is they do. And I've seen plenty of pvpers bragging about how they would even before event starting. It just seems to bring out the worst toxic people to just annoy people. At least in pve events people can't stop you from doing it you usually just do your own thing if you want to.

DaveMoeDee

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

So you want to PvP without ESO+?

You aren't forced to PvP. You mentioned "silly rewards"--so what is your motivation to take part? How are you forced when the rewards are silly? And if you don't want to PvP, why are you complaining about gankers. Just do the easiest dailies. I guess I got lucky. The first daily I tried in IC was Memorial District. I have to kill 2 NPCs and then do something to a few skeletons. Then I search for something to kill me and turn in the quest. But if you don't care about the rewards, you can just do whatever you normally do.

In Cyrodiil, I just do town quests.

I always look for campaigns where my alliance outnumbers the other two to make life easier.

There is nothing wrong with ganking. Did you want a pistol duel game? Street Fighter?

I'm not sure what the point is in analyzing the psychology of what others like to do in a game mode you don't want to play.

ZaroktheImmortal

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

So you want to PvP without ESO+?

You aren't forced to PvP. You mentioned "silly rewards"--so what is your motivation to take part? How are you forced when the rewards are silly? And if you don't want to PvP, why are you complaining about gankers. Just do the easiest dailies. I guess I got lucky. The first daily I tried in IC was Memorial District. I have to kill 2 NPCs and then do something to a few skeletons. Then I search for something to kill me and turn in the quest. But if you don't care about the rewards, you can just do whatever you normally do.

In Cyrodiil, I just do town quests.

I always look for campaigns where my alliance outnumbers the other two to make life easier.

There is nothing wrong with ganking. Did you want a pistol duel game? Street Fighter?

I'm not sure what the point is in analyzing the psychology of what others like to do in a game mode you don't want to play.

You actually have to do both cyro and imperial city and the latter it's hard to do quests in those zones for tickets when the small spaces it has are overrun by zerg trolls just wanting to kill pvers and take the only on map they have left and camp a sides spawn point and just kill them as they come out

DaveMoeDee

KaGaOri wrote: »

Have been around for only handfull of events so far, but is getting the tickets this time around tad harder compared with last time, or is it just me? Like, even just getting three wins in battlegrounds (= 2 tickets) is big jump from "eat the cake + kill one delve boss = 4 tickets" from the last event, both timewise and difficultywise. Maybe that's why PvE players complain and PvP players don't. There's big difference in taking ten minutes to do something they find kind of borring and taking whole evening trying to do something they borderline can't do.

Went to IC for first time for this event. Took ten minutes just to figgure out where to find quest givers for dailies (that one's on me, lol). Grabbed daily from the only district held by my faction. It asked me to hunt twilights for claws - no problem here. Then I was supposed to throw it in a cauldron. There was enemy player camping the cauldron, killing anyone who tried to interact with it. Got chased around and killed. Respawned at base, but game wouldn't let me climb back into district where the quest was - had to go to the one next to it (controled by enemy) and it took five or six deaths just to get back there. My faction lost that single district in meantime. No idea where my faction went, saw only groups of players from other two factions from that point on. The daily took over two hours (and many many deaths) to complete. Dying I don't mind, but simply can't afford such timesink on daily bases.

On weekend I've lucked out and half of IC was controled by my faction at that moment - managed to stack on dailies a bit. Today the IC was once more "owned" by other factions at time I could play = no daily done due to time constrains. Kinda miss eating cake for tickets .

I don't think it is hard at all. Do the town quests in Cyrodiil. Super easy. Quick too now that you can port to towns in Cyrodiil.

IC is confusing, but super quick for me too. It is just a matter of finding a fast quest and picking a campaign where your alliance has the numbers. I don't know if quests differ for alliances, but the Memorial district one is always super quick for me. I am usually in DC. I could see if it is the same with an alt.

Shokner

killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »

Yeah saying that people should stop paying for eso+ because the poor guy feel forced to PvP when is not even required is not totally a spoiled behaviour /facepalm.

Maybe you should read what he said more than one time since apparently your reading comprension skill is not that good.

"If 1 million PVE players stopped their sub for the duration"
In case you missed what he said.

And yes is an excuse dosen't matter if the main selling point of the game is PvE(in the past was PvP) if the event is PvP then expect to do some PvP.

Asking thing to be changed to suit your way or to stop paying for eso+ only because 2 time a year happen a PvP event for PvPer is a spoiled and stupid behaviour.
Especially if there are other way to get stuff from the event as i alredy mentioned.

I can only imagine if you had to go in the top 100(not even 10)leaderbord of PvP to get some items for PvE how much you guys would complain.

Right lets make clear for you reading obviously isn't your strong point, I highlighted in bold his main points.
First we'll deal with this rant you keep saying about demanding people stop paying for eso+ I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior were is he demanding me you or anybody else stops payment? I does not = we, you, all, everybody it's singular.

Two separate areas are there for a reason those who enjoy taking on human players have there own little safe area but i still read many posts from pvpers about his main reason I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience. I read tons of posts from pvpers about other players who camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people if pvpers complain about these very same things how do you expect pve player to deal with it?

And for the love of God I can not find were he rants about cancelling these pvp events and nor should they be cancelled please point out in this post where he demands there cancelled!

He feels forced because he has to endure child like people who just want to ruin the game for people. Why are these types of players if there so hot at the game and on top as pvpers not defending, attacking city's, scouting and all the other things they could be doing to help there team wasting time going around targeting things that have no way of winning the campaign or achieving the teams goal? So yes he feels forced to either enter pvp or give zos ridiculous amounts of money for a pixel item they know people want this Indrik mount.

Crying? all i see is he dose not much care to come up against the morons who spoil the pvp side, event or not and who the very same pvpers complain about.

Sarannah

Now that I'm trying to farm second legion motives the event seems worse and worse to me. I do not like being bait for PvPers! I'm actually thinking of buying the tickets for the motifs, this is how bad the PvP is. If you can even call it that.

Farming players who are not equipped for PvP isn't going to make anyone like PvP.... the opposite in fact. Don't do stuff like that if you want to pull more players into PvP. Talk about throwing in your own windows.

Being forced to farm the IC bosses for motifs is a terrible move from ZOS. Either close off the specific sewer sides in IC for other alliances, or put the second legion motifs in the midyear boxes.

ZaroktheImmortal

Sarannah wrote: »

Now that I'm trying to farm second legion motives the event seems worse and worse to me. I do not like being bait for PvPers! I'm actually thinking of buying the tickets for the motifs, this is how bad the PvP is. If you can even call it that.

Farming players who are not equipped for PvP isn't going to make anyone like PvP.... the opposite in fact. Don't do stuff like that if you want to pull more players into PvP. Talk about throwing in your own windows.

Being forced to farm the IC bosses for motifs is a terrible move from ZOS. Either close off the specific sewer sides in IC for other alliances, or put the second legion motifs in the midyear boxes.

Yep. This exactly.

Magdalina

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Getting ganked by 4-5 enemy players while questing is definitely not a great experience and "getting gud" will not solve that.

Having a group of 7 players whose only goal is to run around and gank others is another hindrance. They are so mature they think killing a pet sorc was a major achievement and they will go through sitting on me repeatedly (to put it politely) is just a great thing to do.

Remember I am a solo pet sorc, not a zerg group. Though the emotish actions would not happen if they faced a zerg. They would probably run away and hide since their goal is to gank, not take objectives.

This is a good event ZoS?

If you don't want to be attacked, don't enter a PVP zone. The imbalance of forces during the attack is irrelevant. Your desire to peacefully run quests is irrelevant. It is a PVP zone.

I want the Indrik mounts. No choice but to enter the zone.

The event tickets require that.

So it's the mount. Hmm let's take a closer look here...your options are:

1) waiting for next event, which will be PvE because all events but this are PvE, and get the Indrik then

2) choose one of the many ways to painlessly gain tickets from this event, many of which have been retold dozens of times by dem toxic PvPers here on forums:
- choose low pop/your alliance capped campaign at off time
- do BGs which takes all of one match with 1k medals quest, without even having to enter Cyrodiil
- stock up on quests BEFORE the event, then give them in one per day (not like you didn't know the event was coming)
- join up with other people with the same purpose - there's so many of you people on forums you could easily form a zerg of your own to rival all the gankers and whatnot
All of those do feature a risk of actual PvP, but that's what you get during a PvP event. There have been multiple very helpful replies and even full threads by the toxic PvPers explaining how to make it as painless as possible. Build tanky. Slot some defense. Make some potions. Be on your guard. No one is requiring you to become an Emperor you know, all you need is survive going through a PvP area (if you choose Cyro and not BG)

3) if all else fails, buy the tickets in Crown Store. I'm personally not a fan of this, but if this silly mount is THAT important, there's always that option.

Yeah, wow, you're right, you really don't have a choice there. /s

Shokner

Magdalina wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Getting ganked by 4-5 enemy players while questing is definitely not a great experience and "getting gud" will not solve that.

Having a group of 7 players whose only goal is to run around and gank others is another hindrance. They are so mature they think killing a pet sorc was a major achievement and they will go through sitting on me repeatedly (to put it politely) is just a great thing to do.

Remember I am a solo pet sorc, not a zerg group. Though the emotish actions would not happen if they faced a zerg. They would probably run away and hide since their goal is to gank, not take objectives.

This is a good event ZoS?

If you don't want to be attacked, don't enter a PVP zone. The imbalance of forces during the attack is irrelevant. Your desire to peacefully run quests is irrelevant. It is a PVP zone.

I want the Indrik mounts. No choice but to enter the zone.

The event tickets require that.

So it's the mount. Hmm let's take a closer look here...your options are:

1) waiting for next event, which will be PvE because all events but this are PvE, and get the Indrik then

2) choose one of the many ways to painlessly gain tickets from this event, many of which have been retold dozens of times by dem toxic PvPers here on forums:
- choose low pop/your alliance capped campaign at off time
- do BGs which takes all of one match with 1k medals quest, without even having to enter Cyrodiil
- stock up on quests BEFORE the event, then give them in one per day (not like you didn't know the event was coming)
- join up with other people with the same purpose - there's so many of you people on forums you could easily form a zerg of your own to rival all the gankers and whatnot
All of those do feature a risk of actual PvP, but that's what you get during a PvP event. There have been multiple very helpful replies and even full threads by the toxic PvPers explaining how to make it as painless as possible. Build tanky. Slot some defense. Make some potions. Be on your guard. No one is requiring you to become an Emperor you know, all you need is survive going through a PvP area (if you choose Cyro and not BG)

3) if all else fails, buy the tickets in Crown Store. I'm personally not a fan of this, but if this silly mount is THAT important, there's always that option.

Yeah, wow, you're right, you really don't have a choice there. /s

Valid points but the main thing is your dealing with people who are new to the game or the pvp side of things most won't or don't even know there's dungeons, delves and missions to do other than events in pvp. I do my tickets the easy way go scouting, treat it like the scouts guide to the zombie apocalypses minus the trampoline part .

Magdalina

Shokner wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Getting ganked by 4-5 enemy players while questing is definitely not a great experience and "getting gud" will not solve that.

Having a group of 7 players whose only goal is to run around and gank others is another hindrance. They are so mature they think killing a pet sorc was a major achievement and they will go through sitting on me repeatedly (to put it politely) is just a great thing to do.

Remember I am a solo pet sorc, not a zerg group. Though the emotish actions would not happen if they faced a zerg. They would probably run away and hide since their goal is to gank, not take objectives.

This is a good event ZoS?

If you don't want to be attacked, don't enter a PVP zone. The imbalance of forces during the attack is irrelevant. Your desire to peacefully run quests is irrelevant. It is a PVP zone.

I want the Indrik mounts. No choice but to enter the zone.

The event tickets require that.

So it's the mount. Hmm let's take a closer look here...your options are:

1) waiting for next event, which will be PvE because all events but this are PvE, and get the Indrik then

2) choose one of the many ways to painlessly gain tickets from this event, many of which have been retold dozens of times by dem toxic PvPers here on forums:
- choose low pop/your alliance capped campaign at off time and ride over to one of non-alliance towns or do a scout mission
- do BGs which takes all of one match with 1k medals quest, without even having to enter Cyrodiil
- stock up on quests BEFORE the event, then give them in one per day (not like you didn't know the event was coming)
- join up with other people with the same purpose - there's so many of you people on forums you could easily form a zerg of your own to rival all the gankers and whatnot
All of those do feature a risk of actual PvP, but that's what you get during a PvP event. There have been multiple very helpful replies and even full threads by the toxic PvPers explaining how to make it as painless as possible. Build tanky. Slot some defense. Make some potions. Be on your guard. No one is requiring you to become an Emperor you know, all you need is survive going through a PvP area (if you choose Cyro and not BG)

3) if all else fails, buy the tickets in Crown Store. I'm personally not a fan of this, but if this silly mount is THAT important, there's always that option.

Yeah, wow, you're right, you really don't have a choice there. /s

Valid points but the main thing is your dealing with people who are new to the game or the pvp side of things most won't or don't even know there's dungeons, delves and missions to do other than events in pvp. I do my tickets the easy way go scouting, treat it like the scouts guide to the zombie apocalypses minus the trampoline part .

So why don't these people ask for advice instead of complaining then? Heck, here , for example, is a thread by a particularly toxic PvPer that goes to great length to explain just how it works and how you can get around it. Issue seems to be that this particular type aren't interested in help, they don't want advices, they want everything handed to them on a silver platter and they want it now just because, you know, they WANT it.

Jinxxy85

Magdalina wrote: »

Shokner wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Getting ganked by 4-5 enemy players while questing is definitely not a great experience and "getting gud" will not solve that.

Having a group of 7 players whose only goal is to run around and gank others is another hindrance. They are so mature they think killing a pet sorc was a major achievement and they will go through sitting on me repeatedly (to put it politely) is just a great thing to do.

Remember I am a solo pet sorc, not a zerg group. Though the emotish actions would not happen if they faced a zerg. They would probably run away and hide since their goal is to gank, not take objectives.

This is a good event ZoS?

If you don't want to be attacked, don't enter a PVP zone. The imbalance of forces during the attack is irrelevant. Your desire to peacefully run quests is irrelevant. It is a PVP zone.

I want the Indrik mounts. No choice but to enter the zone.

The event tickets require that.

So it's the mount. Hmm let's take a closer look here...your options are:

1) waiting for next event, which will be PvE because all events but this are PvE, and get the Indrik then

2) choose one of the many ways to painlessly gain tickets from this event, many of which have been retold dozens of times by dem toxic PvPers here on forums:
- choose low pop/your alliance capped campaign at off time and ride over to one of non-alliance towns or do a scout mission
- do BGs which takes all of one match with 1k medals quest, without even having to enter Cyrodiil
- stock up on quests BEFORE the event, then give them in one per day (not like you didn't know the event was coming)
- join up with other people with the same purpose - there's so many of you people on forums you could easily form a zerg of your own to rival all the gankers and whatnot
All of those do feature a risk of actual PvP, but that's what you get during a PvP event. There have been multiple very helpful replies and even full threads by the toxic PvPers explaining how to make it as painless as possible. Build tanky. Slot some defense. Make some potions. Be on your guard. No one is requiring you to become an Emperor you know, all you need is survive going through a PvP area (if you choose Cyro and not BG)

3) if all else fails, buy the tickets in Crown Store. I'm personally not a fan of this, but if this silly mount is THAT important, there's always that option.

Yeah, wow, you're right, you really don't have a choice there. /s

Valid points but the main thing is your dealing with people who are new to the game or the pvp side of things most won't or don't even know there's dungeons, delves and missions to do other than events in pvp. I do my tickets the easy way go scouting, treat it like the scouts guide to the zombie apocalypses minus the trampoline part .

So why don't these people ask for advice instead of complaining then? Heck, here , for example, is a thread by a particularly toxic PvPer that goes to great length to explain just how it works and how you can get around it. Issue seems to be that this particular type aren't interested in help, they don't want advices, they want everything handed to them on a silver platter and they want it now just because, you know, they WANT it.

The thread you linked was so helpful to me. I'm a complete PvE'r. I've always heard the horror stories over the years about how awful it is to go in and get any event stuff so I've always treated it like I'm allergic and completely avoided it at all costs. Somehow I've always managed to work my ticket numbers to allow me to skip the PvP, but this time around if I wanted those last two berries and the matching pet, then I needed to suck it up and get myself in there. After fully looking into what each area looked like and what the quests involved, using a few threads and some maps, I jumped in the day before the event and stocked up on a couple of quests. Now we're what, 6 days into the event? I've had so much fun I've actually already earned all three items I needed and I'm still planning on participating in the rest of the event.

Other than one group of players in IC, I've managed to go on my merry way by anyone I've come across, unless I was actively partaking in fights in Cyro. I've always gone into dead campaigns if I'm just after the quests and with one self heal and rapids, it's been no different than doing PvE areas. I know some areas probably are a pain in the behind as yes, people do camp areas for the easy kills. But if you don't want to miss those tickets then grab some friends or guildmates or even lfg in the chat and go learn the areas together. Don't be afraid to die or switch campaign or look for some tips on the threads.

ZaroktheImmortal

Magdalina wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Getting ganked by 4-5 enemy players while questing is definitely not a great experience and "getting gud" will not solve that.

Having a group of 7 players whose only goal is to run around and gank others is another hindrance. They are so mature they think killing a pet sorc was a major achievement and they will go through sitting on me repeatedly (to put it politely) is just a great thing to do.

Remember I am a solo pet sorc, not a zerg group. Though the emotish actions would not happen if they faced a zerg. They would probably run away and hide since their goal is to gank, not take objectives.

This is a good event ZoS?

If you don't want to be attacked, don't enter a PVP zone. The imbalance of forces during the attack is irrelevant. Your desire to peacefully run quests is irrelevant. It is a PVP zone.

I want the Indrik mounts. No choice but to enter the zone.

The event tickets require that.

So it's the mount. Hmm let's take a closer look here...your options are:

1) waiting for next event, which will be PvE because all events but this are PvE, and get the Indrik then

2) choose one of the many ways to painlessly gain tickets from this event, many of which have been retold dozens of times by dem toxic PvPers here on forums:
- choose low pop/your alliance capped campaign at off time
- do BGs which takes all of one match with 1k medals quest, without even having to enter Cyrodiil
- stock up on quests BEFORE the event, then give them in one per day (not like you didn't know the event was coming)
- join up with other people with the same purpose - there's so many of you people on forums you could easily form a zerg of your own to rival all the gankers and whatnot
All of those do feature a risk of actual PvP, but that's what you get during a PvP event. There have been multiple very helpful replies and even full threads by the toxic PvPers explaining how to make it as painless as possible. Build tanky. Slot some defense. Make some potions. Be on your guard. No one is requiring you to become an Emperor you know, all you need is survive going through a PvP area (if you choose Cyro and not BG)

3) if all else fails, buy the tickets in Crown Store. I'm personally not a fan of this, but if this silly mount is THAT important, there's always that option.

Yeah, wow, you're right, you really don't have a choice there. /s

1) waiting for the next event

Hmm let's see each indrik is limited time till next one so who knows if that will even still be here and if it is if everyone would have enough tickets before it goes

2:
-(on low pop)buhahahahaha seriously? You do know those are the ones gankers visit the most to pick off players? I've seen some go across two alliances having teams go around killing any pvers from the highest ranking one. Hell in Imperial city they had full on zergs on two bars despite the one with the most having the most the still outnumbered them and they were geared to pvp while the ones they were going after weren't. It got the point the one with most numbers had no spawn spots and the place it resets them to go out was being camped by the others.

-BGs is easy enough but still doesn't change the point

-How many quests can you stock up on for a single area? The event goes till the 4th

-You could but honestly who comes to ESO to deal with toxic trolls? This is one of those 'this is why we can't have nice things' moments. Some pvpers want a pvp event and yet there are many who will just use it as an excuse to troll pvers. That is not something that encourages people to try pvp and for it to grow. In fact it feels like the part of the pvp community doing this are their own worst enemy. People on pvp side want more focus yet there's always a side to them that will do things like this which will make people hate that side. And honestly even a pvp player who was for pvp events earlier in this discussion admitted trolls in Cyrodil in pvp were an issue. I don't play games to deal with toxic trolls who feel the need to pick on others in a game to feel better about themselves. I mean that people are in a state of that's the only way the can feel better about themselves says a lot about them but I'm not their psychologist or their mother and it's not my job to deal with their tantrums or lashing out or whatever it is.

killingspreeb16_ESO

Shokner wrote: »

killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »

Yeah saying that people should stop paying for eso+ because the poor guy feel forced to PvP when is not even required is not totally a spoiled behaviour /facepalm.

Maybe you should read what he said more than one time since apparently your reading comprension skill is not that good.

"If 1 million PVE players stopped their sub for the duration"
In case you missed what he said.

And yes is an excuse dosen't matter if the main selling point of the game is PvE(in the past was PvP) if the event is PvP then expect to do some PvP.

Asking thing to be changed to suit your way or to stop paying for eso+ only because 2 time a year happen a PvP event for PvPer is a spoiled and stupid behaviour.
Especially if there are other way to get stuff from the event as i alredy mentioned.

I can only imagine if you had to go in the top 100(not even 10)leaderbord of PvP to get some items for PvE how much you guys would complain.

Right lets make clear for you reading obviously isn't your strong point, I highlighted in bold his main points.
First we'll deal with this rant you keep saying about demanding people stop paying for eso+ I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior were is he demanding me you or anybody else stops payment? I does not = we, you, all, everybody it's singular.

Two separate areas are there for a reason those who enjoy taking on human players have there own little safe area but i still read many posts from pvpers about his main reason I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience. I read tons of posts from pvpers about other players who camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people if pvpers complain about these very same things how do you expect pve player to deal with it?

And for the love of God I can not find were he rants about cancelling these pvp events and nor should they be cancelled please point out in this post where he demands there cancelled!

He feels forced because he has to endure child like people who just want to ruin the game for people. Why are these types of players if there so hot at the game and on top as pvpers not defending, attacking city's, scouting and all the other things they could be doing to help there team wasting time going around targeting things that have no way of winning the campaign or achieving the teams goal? So yes he feels forced to either enter pvp or give zos ridiculous amounts of money for a pixel item they know people want this Indrik mount.

Crying? all i see is he dose not much care to come up against the morons who spoil the pvp side, event or not and who the very same pvpers complain about.

Again increase your reading comprension skill because is terrible.

"If 1 million PVE players stopped their sub for the duration, it would cost them millions. It still probably wouldn't change anything, but it would make ME feel good. "

Had to write it gain because apparently you forget things fairly quickly and even then stopping even one sub because an event is not suited for you is a childish and spoiled behaviour,plain and simple.

This is A PvP event you need to expect to be killed by other player's,dosen't matter if you are a PvE player you still give AP and in IC also Telvar Stones that's enough to get killed by the enemy faction and the fact that if you come in a PvP area then you will need to PVP in some occasion like it or not that's a fact not a opinion.
Also people are camping spot even when there is no event,why?people that are returning to base without the stones of recall might give you a nice amount of Telvar stone(taking your example of people camping sewer entrance)

And if getting killed ruin your expirience then don't go in a PvP area or atleast not alone,really is that simple but better complain about things because is not how you want them to be.

He might not said it directly(but you can assume he would not complain if the event is getting changed or removed so he dosen't have to deal with) but some people in this thread and other thread's before this one actually said that,there is one of these post in the last page currently aswell.

majulook wrote: »
Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

[Quoted post was removed]

It dosen't matter how he feel because no one if forcing him to do the event,getting killed in PvP is normal deal with it,if your ego can't accept the fact that in PvP youre not "the hero of tamriel" maybe just don't play this event simple as that.

And if i want to go to bruma to PvP during this event then i go to bruma and kill people there,be it other PvPer,gankers or PvEer.
The fact that some people think they should be left alone because they don't like PVP and if you kill them youre a child,toxic PvPer,troll or whatever you want is the actual childish behaviour.

Tigerseye

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

Why is PvP the "worst"?

Or is it in truth that you're not very good at PvP which makes all us nasty PvP'ers bad people?

If you're going to ask me about my snark, it's because I am fed up with being labelled as a terrible person because I like playing against other players in a zone literally built specifically for PvP gameplay.

I PVPed a lot in WoW (mostly on the worst class possible for it) and did, quite literally, nothing other than WvW in GW2 and yet, I don't take what he said personally, so why do you?

I know firsthand that a substantial amount (not all, by any means, but a substantial amount) of PVPers are obnoxious idiots, because I played with/against them.

So, you should know that too.

...and if you are not one of them, not take it personally.

Stop identifying with groups and be you.

ZaroktheImmortal

killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »

Shokner wrote: »

killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »

Yeah saying that people should stop paying for eso+ because the poor guy feel forced to PvP when is not even required is not totally a spoiled behaviour /facepalm.

Maybe you should read what he said more than one time since apparently your reading comprension skill is not that good.

"If 1 million PVE players stopped their sub for the duration"
In case you missed what he said.

And yes is an excuse dosen't matter if the main selling point of the game is PvE(in the past was PvP) if the event is PvP then expect to do some PvP.

Asking thing to be changed to suit your way or to stop paying for eso+ only because 2 time a year happen a PvP event for PvPer is a spoiled and stupid behaviour.
Especially if there are other way to get stuff from the event as i alredy mentioned.

I can only imagine if you had to go in the top 100(not even 10)leaderbord of PvP to get some items for PvE how much you guys would complain.

Right lets make clear for you reading obviously isn't your strong point, I highlighted in bold his main points.
First we'll deal with this rant you keep saying about demanding people stop paying for eso+ I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior were is he demanding me you or anybody else stops payment? I does not = we, you, all, everybody it's singular.

Two separate areas are there for a reason those who enjoy taking on human players have there own little safe area but i still read many posts from pvpers about his main reason I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience. I read tons of posts from pvpers about other players who camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people if pvpers complain about these very same things how do you expect pve player to deal with it?

And for the love of God I can not find were he rants about cancelling these pvp events and nor should they be cancelled please point out in this post where he demands there cancelled!

He feels forced because he has to endure child like people who just want to ruin the game for people. Why are these types of players if there so hot at the game and on top as pvpers not defending, attacking city's, scouting and all the other things they could be doing to help there team wasting time going around targeting things that have no way of winning the campaign or achieving the teams goal? So yes he feels forced to either enter pvp or give zos ridiculous amounts of money for a pixel item they know people want this Indrik mount.

Crying? all i see is he dose not much care to come up against the morons who spoil the pvp side, event or not and who the very same pvpers complain about.

Again increase your reading comprension skill because is terrible.

"If 1 million PVE players stopped their sub for the duration, it would cost them millions. It still probably wouldn't change anything, but it would make ME feel good. "

Had to write it gain because apparently you forget things fairly quickly and even then stopping even one sub because an event is not suited for you is a childish and spoiled behaviour,plain and simple.

This is A PvP event you need to expect to be killed by other player's,dosen't matter if you are a PvE player you still give AP and in IC also Telvar Stones that's enough to get killed by the enemy faction and the fact that if you come in a PvP area then you will need to PVP in some occasion like it or not that's a fact not a opinion.
Also people are camping spot even when there is no event,why?people that are returning to base without the stones of recall might give you a nice amount of Telvar stone(taking your example of people camping sewer entrance)

And if getting killed ruin your expirience then don't go in a PvP area or atleast not alone,really is that simple but better complain about things because is not how you want them to be.

He might not said it directly(but you can assume he would not complain if the event is getting changed or removed so he dosen't have to deal with) but some people in this thread and other thread's before this one actually said that,there is one of these post in the last page currently aswell.

majulook wrote: »
Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

It exists.

It dosen't matter how he feel because no one if forcing him to do the event,getting killed in PvP is normal deal with it,if your ego can't accept the fact that in PvP youre not "the hero of tamriel" maybe just don't play this event simple as that.

And if i want to go to bruma to PvP during this event then i go to bruma and kill people there,be it other PvPer,gankers or PvEer.
The fact that some people think they should be left alone because they don't like PVP and if you kill them youre a child,toxic PvPer,troll or whatever you want is the actual childish behaviour.

Well given most of the pve players aren't hunting telvar and only going for quests and maybe at times bosses they haven't killed for the achievements it's unlikely they'd have many. This isn't about getting telvar it's just pissing people off for their own petty amusement. Fact is Cyrodil usually sits on one bar yet more at an event yet you have multiple bars of just gankers and zergs killing off pvers. It's almost as if some pvp players wanted to drive people away from pvp. They don't want pvers or people who just want to get the stuff done there? Well then this is all the more argument for not having a pvp event if any. It wasn't as bad first day it was mostly a few gankers here but they were easily dealt with as the event went on it went to full zergs to take out pvers cause seems some pvpers didn't do too well at ganking the pvers so had to bring a group of their buddies who are equally as moronic so they can feel better about their sad little lives 'omg look I killed someone in a game with my buddies who isn't even geared or speced to this but I'm sooo cool'. If someone has to specifically target pvers then they're probably not that great in pvp or they'd be looking for a challenge instead of hoping for an easy gank. And speaking of egos I had one of the gankers hate whisper me. And funnily the gankers always seem to run if they're losing. One even kept trying to gank me almost died went invisible tried again went invisible rinse repeat till I killed him before he could vanish again and I was in light armour geared as a pve healer that's not even that great of a set. What's childish behavior is the fact that some are specifically targeting pvers and that some think it being an issue that they're already somewhere they don't want to be and now being targeted by zerg mobs specifically targeting them is childish. If you think that it should be 'pvp or don't go there' then again that's an argument for not having a pvp event. If that's how the pvp side see the pve side well then they don't deserve an event if they behave like childish trolls to the people new to pvp.