This event...

WhyMustItBe

...makes me wish ESO was pay by the day so that I could pull funding for the duration to convey how I feel about it! XD

VaranisArano

If you stopped your ESO+ for the duration, you'd cost ZOS about $6.50.

I'm sure they're quaking in their boots.

WhyMustItBe

VaranisArano wrote: »

If you stopped your ESO+ for the duration, you'd cost ZOS about $6.50.

I'm sure they're quaking in their boots.

If 1 million PVE players stopped their sub for the duration, it would cost them millions. It still probably wouldn't change anything, but it would make ME feel good.

majulook

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

WhyMustItBe

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

Khenarthi

As a (mostly) quest player, I'm loving this event. If all goes according to plan, I will be able to unlock all the alliance war active skills on my 18 characters

Thank you ZOS!

zvavi

Khenarthi wrote: »

As a (mostly) quest player, I'm loving this event. If all goes according to plan, I will be able to unlock all the alliance war active skills on my 18 characters

Thank you ZOS!

As a (mostly) dungeon PvE player, I am loving this event. Imperial city feels alive and I can actually dip my toes in high paced PvP pretty on demand. A lot of death, but sometimes I get kills. Fun.

Sibenice

I'm (mostly) skipping this event. I already have the laurel wreath from previously, and I don't need another Indrik. It's not worth the irritation or the poor performance in Cyrodiil.

Linaleah

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

don't go into sewers. ticket quests are all upstairs in a city proper. go to campaign that has high population for your alliance, low population for everyone else. take getting killed in upstairs districts as free port that it is, respawn up at the top where quest givers and hatch to go to base is, go down to base, bank tel var, go back up (potentially up the different ladder to a different district) finish quests, bank them (turn in one quest per day, keep the rest waiting) so that for the next 6 days including the day you are doing it on - you have a set of complete quests you just need to turn it. that essentially allows you to quest in IC for 3 days only.

for Cyrodil, I used to advocate scouting missions and they are pretty good, but occasionaly, it will ask you to scout something way WAY too far away, too much riding and in enemy territory and won't let you change it for anything closer. pick a campaign again, from 7 day campaigns that has high load of your alliance, lower load of everyone else, go to a quest hub town that is closes to your alliance base - do a quick daily there, turn in - get tickets, profit.

I'm not a fan of open world pvp. I severely despise pvpve zones. i do not find them fun. but.. it IS possible to do this event with minimum to no actual engaging in pvp (heck half the time when i'm death porting around IC, I deliberately die to mobs, cause there are no enemy players to kill me)

as for event achievements... for that i'm afraid you need to decide if you want them badly enough to get a group to do them with. I basically treat them as other pvp achievements. I avoid them. new outfit pages - buy with tickets, or gold from other players.

TequilaFire

Event is going just fine for me.

Deathlord92

I love midyear mayhem 😈 sithis is happy with the gifts I send

boggo

Kinda your opinion man.

SimpleTea

I'm really lost on what to do or how to begin mayhem - this is my first mayhem event. I have covered my self in blood at the fountain, as requested, and obtained the scrolls. Now do I just queue for IC and run quests or something? Also, the banners you receive. It says when you get 10 of them, you can build a rune box. I assume the rune box is for storage of runes??

Galwylin

This isn't one of my favorite events either but I don't see why its bothering some so. Assuming I want the tickets (which varies for everyone) I simply do a few battlegrounds and then a daily in IC. If you get killed or suck, make sure you use a character that has the participate in five or get 1000 medals in battlegrounds so that your performance isn't that big a consideration. In IC, just respawn and pick up where you left off. All it takes is a level 10 (not sure about IC). An hour and done for the day. And tell folks you're just there for the tickets if someone is a try hard in battlegrounds. If you think its punishment then those who enjoy PVP are also being punished by having to play with folks only there for tickets. Not a well thought out event but what can you do.

idk

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

If you stopped your ESO+ for the duration, you'd cost ZOS about $6.50.

I'm sure they're quaking in their boots.

If 1 million PVE players stopped their sub for the duration, it would cost them millions. It still probably wouldn't change anything, but it would make ME feel good.

This does not make sense as it does not affect PvE play. I fail to see what the big deal is. Keep on playing your PvE and ignore the event and everything is roses.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

Why is PvP the "worst"?

Or is it in truth that you're not very good at PvP which makes all us nasty PvP'ers bad people?

If you're going to ask me about my snark, it's because I am fed up with being labelled as a terrible person because I like playing against other players in a zone literally built specifically for PvP gameplay.

Linaleah

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

Why is PvP the "worst"?

Or is it in truth that you're not very good at PvP which makes all us nasty PvP'ers bad people?

If you're going to ask me about my snark, it's because I am fed up with being labelled as a terrible person because I like playing against other players in a zone literally built specifically for PvP gameplay.

not everyone enjoys competitive play. its not about being good or bad, its about preference for cooperation vs competition.

SimpleTea wrote: »

I'm really lost on what to do or how to begin mayhem - this is my first mayhem event. I have covered my self in blood at the fountain, as requested, and obtained the scrolls. Now do I just queue for IC and run quests or something? Also, the banners you receive. It says when you get 10 of them, you can build a rune box. I assume the rune box is for storage of runes??

the event at the core is boost to pvp activity rewards. if you are collecting tickets for ticket vendor items though - you have two sources of them this event.

one is imperial city that yes you have to queue up for. in the room near the banker, there are small podiums of sorts with ladders leading up into the ceeling. those ladders correspond with the districts of the city itself - each district has a daily, and when you go up the ladder, you will find quest giver that gives it. first daily of the day rewards 2 tickets. in cyrodil, there are two bases for your alliance that you can load into. one of them has a bunch of quest boards with dailies. any one of those dailies will award 2 tickets for the first daily completed. scouting is the one that doesn't require pvp, just lots and lots of traveling. or. you can go to nearest quest hub town (there should be a guide to cyrodil town dailies in general forum) pick up a daily, do it - get tickets. ticket vendors are next to starting cities for first major zone per alliance (so for example its right outside Daggerfall city in glenumbra,) and as i found one next to vivec, I'm assuming they also added them do chapter main cities.

Fur_like_snow

It’s a better event than some lame zone specific event where you do a couple repeatable quests. At least mid year has some real action from time to time. Btw you’re not “forced” to do anything in ESO you made choice to participate.

If gear is what is holding you back that’s okay because some very strong sets are now craftable and within reach.

Vevvev

Nothing's really wrong with these events. Midyear Mayhem gets players to try out PVP, New Life has fishing and other things, Undaunted Event has players do dungeons and trials, and I could go on listing everything else but you get the point.

If you're not a PVPer there are ways to sneak around and do the PVE quests for your tickets. You don't lose gear durability when you die in PVP so you have nothing to lose. Only exception is the Imperial City but you can just shove all your tel var stones in the bank to reduce the overall risk of dying.

ArchMikem

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

If you stopped your ESO+ for the duration, you'd cost ZOS about $6.50.

I'm sure they're quaking in their boots.

If 1 million PVE players stopped their sub for the duration, it would cost them millions. It still probably wouldn't change anything, but it would make ME feel good.

Absolutely nothing short of the plug being pulled will tear us away from our craft bag.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Linaleah wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

Why is PvP the "worst"?

Or is it in truth that you're not very good at PvP which makes all us nasty PvP'ers bad people?

If you're going to ask me about my snark, it's because I am fed up with being labelled as a terrible person because I like playing against other players in a zone literally built specifically for PvP gameplay.

not everyone enjoys competitive play. its not about being good or bad, its about preference for cooperation vs competition.

SimpleTea wrote: »

I'm really lost on what to do or how to begin mayhem - this is my first mayhem event. I have covered my self in blood at the fountain, as requested, and obtained the scrolls. Now do I just queue for IC and run quests or something? Also, the banners you receive. It says when you get 10 of them, you can build a rune box. I assume the rune box is for storage of runes??

the event at the core is boost to pvp activity rewards. if you are collecting tickets for ticket vendor items though - you have two sources of them this event.

one is imperial city that yes you have to queue up for. in the room near the banker, there are small podiums of sorts with ladders leading up into the ceeling. those ladders correspond with the districts of the city itself - each district has a daily, and when you go up the ladder, you will find quest giver that gives it. first daily of the day rewards 2 tickets. in cyrodil, there are two bases for your alliance that you can load into. one of them has a bunch of quest boards with dailies. any one of those dailies will award 2 tickets for the first daily completed. scouting is the one that doesn't require pvp, just lots and lots of traveling. or. you can go to nearest quest hub town (there should be a guide to cyrodil town dailies in general forum) pick up a daily, do it - get tickets. ticket vendors are next to starting cities for first major zone per alliance (so for example its right outside Daggerfall city in glenumbra,) and as i found one next to vivec, I'm assuming they also added them do chapter main cities.

And many PvP players hate PvE. Guess I am lucky in that I love both.

Yet I don't see anyone screaming for them to get rewards without having to PvE, do I?

Not that you even have to do PvP to get your tickets... That's all PvE quests. Scouting in Cyrodiil, and IC daily is PvE.

The only thing you cannot get in this event without PvP is the title and laurel. And frankly, if you don't PvP, I would ask what business you have wanting rewards made specifically for PvP activity. No, RP is not a valid answer.

SimpleTea

Thanks for reply Linaleah. That is helpful.

VoxAdActa

The first night of the event, I queued into a campaign that was at cap for all three alliances. Then I spent two hours walking around harvesting the double-drop crafting nodes and saw another person exactly once (who was also harvesting; we blocked at each other, waved, and went our separate ways).

Then I went into enemy-owned Cropsford, snuck past the NPC guards, did a daily, got some tickets. Saw a couple of enemy PCs right before I turned in, I just hid behind a house for a couple minutes, let them do their thing, and they left.

As long as you stay away from the keeps and make sure you keep track of zone chat to see where the battle lines are moving, you don't have to do any PvP at all to get the rewards from this "PvP" event.

Dr_Ganknstein

Not me, im having a blast. More blood for the blood god.

xXMeowMeowXx

There needs to be more PvP events!! 🐢 the tortoise agrees

Linaleah

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

Why is PvP the "worst"?

Or is it in truth that you're not very good at PvP which makes all us nasty PvP'ers bad people?

If you're going to ask me about my snark, it's because I am fed up with being labelled as a terrible person because I like playing against other players in a zone literally built specifically for PvP gameplay.

not everyone enjoys competitive play. its not about being good or bad, its about preference for cooperation vs competition.

SimpleTea wrote: »

I'm really lost on what to do or how to begin mayhem - this is my first mayhem event. I have covered my self in blood at the fountain, as requested, and obtained the scrolls. Now do I just queue for IC and run quests or something? Also, the banners you receive. It says when you get 10 of them, you can build a rune box. I assume the rune box is for storage of runes??

the event at the core is boost to pvp activity rewards. if you are collecting tickets for ticket vendor items though - you have two sources of them this event.

one is imperial city that yes you have to queue up for. in the room near the banker, there are small podiums of sorts with ladders leading up into the ceeling. those ladders correspond with the districts of the city itself - each district has a daily, and when you go up the ladder, you will find quest giver that gives it. first daily of the day rewards 2 tickets. in cyrodil, there are two bases for your alliance that you can load into. one of them has a bunch of quest boards with dailies. any one of those dailies will award 2 tickets for the first daily completed. scouting is the one that doesn't require pvp, just lots and lots of traveling. or. you can go to nearest quest hub town (there should be a guide to cyrodil town dailies in general forum) pick up a daily, do it - get tickets. ticket vendors are next to starting cities for first major zone per alliance (so for example its right outside Daggerfall city in glenumbra,) and as i found one next to vivec, I'm assuming they also added them do chapter main cities.

And many PvP players hate PvE. Guess I am lucky in that I love both.

Yet I don't see anyone screaming for them to get rewards without having to PvE, do I?

Not that you even have to do PvP to get your tickets... That's all PvE quests. Scouting in Cyrodiil, and IC daily is PvE.

The only thing you cannot get in this event without PvP is the title and laurel. And frankly, if you don't PvP, I would ask what business you have wanting rewards made specifically for PvP activity. No, RP is not a valid answer.

did you read the rest of my post or are you just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian?

and I see plenty of pvpers complaining about having to do pve. and you know what? that's fair. when you like a specific activity and feel forced into activity you do not enjoy in order to get benefits for activity that you DO enjoy? its not something that's easy to feel happy about.

and for the most part, indrik collection has been restricted to pve events. so yes. a certain grumpiness is very much expected and valid. I did however point out without getting all "its because you are just bad, isn't it" how its possible to participate in the event while avoiding pvp. so.. what's YOUR constructive contribution?

Razzledazzle_dar

If you can't PvP or won't PvP for the duration. Skip. The. Event. There will be 40 trillion more reskinned indriks in the future. Before anyone mentions bias in my comment, I am a PvE player who mainly just quests in overland! Let PvP players have a PvP themed event, they're part of our community too!

Sarannah

I do not mind dying on occasion, or having to complete one quest for a BG and IC(for event tickets). What I do mind is that the midyear boxes we get are totally worthless, just some crappy supplies. And that we have to farm bosses in a pvp environment(IC) to try and get outfit pages which hardly ever seem to drop. Yet are the only thing worthwhile.

The outfit pages should be in the midyear mayhem boxes, so we are not forced to stay in a pvp environment to farm PvE bosses there. I'm still aiming for the second legion pages, but I do not enjoy trying... at all!

PS: I really dislike PvP, but I did experience some fun moments.

Magdalina

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming communit.

....

I'm confused. How are you forced to engage in PvP activities? Did ZOS suddenly turn off all PvE zones, dungeons, trials and houses, with every player logging in right in the middle of Cyrodiil with no way to avoid it?

Last I checked, you're encouraged to engage in PvP activities by, yes, having some silly pixel reward provided (plus double ap). If you hate it so much, simply don't do it, not like that's the only way to get the Indrik anyway. No one's forcing you. No one's taking anything from your game. What is it that is your preferred ESO activity, is it questing? Housing? RP? Dungeons? Trials? All of those are exactly the same now as they were before the event and will be after. Yet you would take away your monetary support of the game because an event that OTHER people (there're even some of them in this thread) find fun, while you don't, is on. Wow.

Theignson

Huge, hard fought battles for keeps in Cyrodil last night (PC NA), great fun. Nothing like a successful keep defense against a large, determined opposing faction force.

Haven't had such pitched battles in Zerodil for some time, so I'm all in favor of the event!

deleted221106-002999

Sibenice wrote: »

I'm (mostly) skipping this event. I already have the laurel wreath from previously, and I don't need another Indrik. It's not worth the irritation or the poor performance in Cyrodiil.

This.

Happy to return to pvp when event is done and I feel like pvp.

Who knows - maybe tomorrow's maintenance will fix the performance issues. LOL.