This event...

Pink_E_808 · June 2020

Idk if anyone else has pointed this out yet, but OP, you DO realize that we only get PvP events TWICE a year, right? PvP players are forced into PvE for gear whether there's an event or not. Just go into one of the extra campaigns, that's what they're there for.

idk · June 2020

Pink_E_808 wrote: »

Idk if anyone else has pointed this out yet, but OP, you DO realize that we only get PvP events TWICE a year, right? PvP players are forced into PvE for gear whether there's an event or not. Just go into one of the extra campaigns, that's what they're there for.

I am IDK and I did not bring that to their attention. My bad.

Ryath_Waylander · June 2020

This event... has been AWESOME so far! I pop into Cyro a few days a month to stock up on transmutes and see if I can have fun in the process. The end of the month, unlocked campaigns are a bit dead though with one faction miles ahead and the map is one colour. Performance is generally poor to ghastly since Greymoor dropped.

With MYM on the go again, there are battles all across the map. It's not even crashing with full seige assaults, double wall breaches and three way fights. Why can't the performance always be like this. Cyrodiil is alive. I'm a PvE player and I suck at 1v any so I'm a "ram healer" for lack of a better word. I just want to say thanks to those PvPers who take on the onerous task of forming LFG groups during the event. It must be worse than herding cats

Agenericname · June 2020

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

If you stopped your ESO+ for the duration, you'd cost ZOS about $6.50.

I'm sure they're quaking in their boots.

If 1 million PVE players stopped their sub for the duration, it would cost them millions. It still probably wouldn't change anything, but it would make ME feel good.

are you kidding? I feel better about the money I've spent because of this event. Its fun. I'll go buy some crowns

SeaGtGruff · June 2020

Linaleah wrote: »

don't go into sewers. ticket quests are all upstairs in a city proper.

If you want to collect the Second Legion pages, then after you turn in your IC quest back in your alliance's base you can look for a group that's farming the smaller bosses-- not the patrolling horrors, but the ones that spawn at the locations with the two crossed swords icon.

EDIT-- Down in the sewers, that is.

dem0n1k · June 2020

I can fully understand some players not wanting to PVP for what ever reason... players should be able to do the content that they want to do & enjoy their game time the way they want to. What I don't get is the complaint that 'rewards' are 'locked' behind the content that they don't want to do. It would be easier to understand if the rewards were actually useful in-game but they are just fluff. If you REALLY wanted the rewards, then you have the option to step outside your comfort zone just a little & get them.

lokesgard · June 2020

As a pve player I love this event! I get to quickly level up skill line, and I get a ton of ap for spell power pots, what's not to love? Don't care about the tickets too much, but still do them cause why not.
Id love to see more ap boosting events tbh, pvp can actually be fun even if you aren't great at it, just don't take it too seriously 🤷🏻‍♀️

MarshRangerHaz · June 2020

Not my favourite event either, I generally despise PvPvE stuff in games, but it's doable with a little patience.

I've been going to low pop zones and just sneaking across Cyrodiil for scouting missions. Imperial City is a little more tricky, and you're bound to get someone jumping you when you try to kill some dremora or whatever, but I just let people kill me and respawn right back to the same area, wait a few minutes for them to run off again and carry on with my day.

Linaleah · June 2020

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

don't go into sewers. ticket quests are all upstairs in a city proper.

If you want to collect the Second Legion pages, then after you turn in your IC quest back in your alliance's base you can look for a group that's farming the smaller bosses-- not the patrolling horrors, but the ones that spawn at the locations with the two crossed swords icon.

EDIT-- Down in the sewers, that is.

honestly, I'd rather just buy them with tickets. that is if I wanted them. I bought the original pages last year - and honestly, for me at least you really just need the biggest pieces - chest, legs, shoulders to get the full look. maybe boots. can just combine them with gloves and belt from a different set.

as for why some people feel forced (this is general reply to some people in thread, not you specificaly)

imagine for a moment. that you have been collecting current indrik and bought original 2 berries already. only to realize that this event? is the last and ONLY chance to complete it. as well as get the matching pet. there is no event coming after this for last berry - this is it. THIS is why people might feel forced.

Sibenice · June 2020

Pink_E_808 wrote: »

Idk if anyone else has pointed this out yet, but OP, you DO realize that we only get PvP events TWICE a year, right? PvP players are forced into PvE for gear whether there's an event or not. Just go into one of the extra campaigns, that's what they're there for.

To be fair. PvP only players are playing a game whose genre, up until this one, has been single player RPGs. It's to expect that the focus on PvE content and story would be huge. Just kind of the game they're playing. Which means, that a lot of players are coming to this game from that RPG only element so dealing with PvP may not be as fun for them, and probably why they're a lot more outspoken than PvE only people in other games.

Just be glad that we don't have FFXIV level PvP. If that doesn't scream after thought then I don't know what does.

Urvoth · June 2020

[snip] pretty much every other event is PvE. PvPers have to do PvE for the PvE events, just like you have to do some PvP content for Midyear, it's not unfair or bad design in any way. If you don't want to do PvP, just skip this event, just like what tons of PvPers do for the PvE events.

[Edited to remove Baiting]

ZaroktheImmortal · June 2020

Urvoth wrote: »

[snip] pretty much every other event is PvE. PvPers have to do PvE for the PvE events, just like you have to do some PvP content for Midyear, it's not unfair or bad design in any way. If you don't want to do PvP, just skip this event, just like what tons of PvPers do for the PvE events.

Honestly I've seen pvpers complaining about pvers in their pve and some saying they'd keep killing them till they all leave. The event is aimed at rewards that have more interest to pve players aside from the extra ap during event to get pvers in it.

Mayrael · June 2020

zvavi wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

As a (mostly) quest player, I'm loving this event. If all goes according to plan, I will be able to unlock all the alliance war active skills on my 18 characters

Thank you ZOS!

As a (mostly) dungeon PvE player, I am loving this event. Imperial city feels alive and I can actually dip my toes in high paced PvP pretty on demand. A lot of death, but sometimes I get kills. Fun.

And this is true player. Overcome defeat and stand up once again for the win! Awesome mate!

Magdalina · June 2020

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Urvoth wrote: »

You're triggered over a PvP event when pretty much every other event is PvE. PvPers have to do PvE for the PvE events, just like you have to do some PvP content for Midyear, it's not unfair or bad design in any way. If you don't want to do PvP, just skip this event, just like what tons of PvPers do for the PvE events.

Honestly I've seen pvpers complaining about pvers in their pve and some saying they'd keep killing them till they all leave. The event is aimed at rewards that have more interest to pve players aside from the extra ap during event to get pvers in it.

Um...did you really just say that THE PvP event, featuring double reward for killing other players, is somehow targetting PvEers?o.O The very idea of Midyear Mayhem is double AP. MM without double AP is like fishing without fish or MA without MA weapons.

Lamiai · June 2020

You're not forced to do anything.

bearbelly · June 2020

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

If you stopped your ESO+ for the duration, you'd cost ZOS about $6.50.

I'm sure they're quaking in their boots.

If 1 million PVE players stopped their sub for the duration, it would cost them millions. It still probably wouldn't change anything, but it would make ME feel good.

You say that like you think one million planet Earth people cooperating with each other could actually happen.
Have you met people?

Moonsorrow · June 2020

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

Or camping the exits and stuff comes after reading some demands at the forums for PVP events to stop being a thing. Personally after reading these kind of demand posts.. i feel like doing the same honestly. I have a very nasty ganker for it.

Even i normally not do such things but let pve questers get their daily tickets unless they attack me first. But these kind of demands.. that the 2 events we have (IC and Mayhem) should not exist makes me sorta bloodlusted. There are PVE only events the rest of the year, all other events.

So maybe let us enjoy these 2 events as we let you enjoy your PVE events?

Moonsorrow · June 2020

Sarannah wrote: »

I do not mind dying on occasion, or having to complete one quest for a BG and IC(for event tickets). What I do mind is that the midyear boxes we get are totally worthless, just some crappy supplies. And that we have to farm bosses in a pvp environment(IC) to try and get outfit pages which hardly ever seem to drop. Yet are the only thing worthwhile.

The outfit pages should be in the midyear mayhem boxes, so we are not forced to stay in a pvp environment to farm PvE bosses there. I'm still aiming for the second legion pages, but I do not enjoy trying... at all!

PS: I really dislike PvP, but I did experience some fun moments.

I know many who used to dislike PVP, but has after those few fun moments slowly started to get into it, especially if they have friends to do it with so the start does not feel so rough as it can for a true solo player. I know many who started as "pve only" players and nowadays spend more time at PVP or a balanced mix of both in their gaming time.

In any case, nice to hear you have had some fun too!

I think that is exactly the intent for ZOS to mix things up, that is why they also put a lot of PVP "needed" stuff to behind PVE activities (like Antiquities and Vet Dungeons), so us PVPers also have to "grind" pve things too if we want something from there.

I think it makes this game more interesting, even both extremes on each camp of players will complain about things, but if want something then gotta work for it, even outside ones own comfort zones.

ZaroktheImmortal · June 2020

Magdalina wrote: »

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Urvoth wrote: »

You're triggered over a PvP event when pretty much every other event is PvE. PvPers have to do PvE for the PvE events, just like you have to do some PvP content for Midyear, it's not unfair or bad design in any way. If you don't want to do PvP, just skip this event, just like what tons of PvPers do for the PvE events.

Honestly I've seen pvpers complaining about pvers in their pve and some saying they'd keep killing them till they all leave. The event is aimed at rewards that have more interest to pve players aside from the extra ap during event to get pvers in it.

Um...did you really just say that THE PvP event, featuring double reward for killing other players, is somehow targetting PvEers?o.O The very idea of Midyear Mayhem is double AP. MM without double AP is like fishing without fish or MA without MA weapons.

It gives out berries for some indrik mount and style pages for new outfits. I don't know many pvpers who care much of that side. But the other events for these mounts have been pve related and then they put a pvp one...so umm yeah it kind of is aimed to get them involved. And why do you think they put extra instances of all the pvp? Cause they knew pvers would come to it.

ZaroktheImmortal · June 2020

I mean if the rewards were just stuff like extra AP then it'd be purely aimed at pvp players.

Crimsonwolf666 · June 2020

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

You must be new...even PvEers HAVE to engage with PvP to get certain Alliance War skills anyway. For example VIGOR which is most Stamina players main heal. Kinda entitled to demand that the PVP community doesn't EVER get an event for them event though 90% of events are PVE centered. Don't like it? Guess you can BUY the event tickets to get your mount pieces and pet and even the drops of style pages that happen during these events. And you want to minimize ganking??? Make sure you go to a campaign that is heavily populated with YOUR alliance. Everytime I look at campaigns for Cyrodiil or Imperial City, there is always at least 1 that favors 1 of the 3 alliances. Ask for groups or start your own. I am sorry you are realizing that their are ppl in PvP whose WHOLE purpose is to make other players miserable, but welcome to PvP world. There are definitely a few guilds that purposely portray such behavior too (cough, Toxic, cough).

Varangian_af_Scaniae · June 2020

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

Yeah I don't know how many time I have been killed by being shoot in the back while running away from people. I ONLY WANT TO DO THE DAILY QUEST.

ZaroktheImmortal · June 2020

Moonsorrow wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

Or camping the exits and stuff comes after reading some demands at the forums for PVP events to stop being a thing. Personally after reading these kind of demand posts.. i feel like doing the same honestly. I have a very nasty ganker for it.

Even i normally not do such things but let pve questers get their daily tickets unless they attack me first. But these kind of demands.. that the 2 events we have (IC and Mayhem) should not exist makes me sorta bloodlusted. There are PVE only events the rest of the year, all other events.

So maybe let us enjoy these 2 events as we let you enjoy your PVE events?

Cause that's going to help pvp grow and get more people wanting to try it right? I mean I'd think more pvp focused players would want more to actually enjoy the pvp zones and maybe help them and get them into it but it seems like a fair few just want to annoy them until they leave even before event started there were pvpers in forums complaining about the event that it'd bring pvers into their zones and bragging about how they'd gank them all and one who said they'd keep killing them till they leave and took offence to pvers ruining their games. Yet in cyrodil I see a lot wanting more focus on pvp yet that sort of behavior is counter productive. I mean the event could be used to get more into the pvp side showing them it but instead it seems much like. And then some wonder why some pvers don't like pvp events. Fact is I've seen both pvers and pvpers complaining about the event. Some pvpers don't want pvers in this areas. It could be used to help pvp grow but instead it turns into something toxic then some wonder why pve players don't like these events. I feel as if they want a pvp event then they should have rewards focused on pvp content.

kyle.wilson · June 2020

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

Why is it that the best gear for pvp is locked behind trials and dlc dungeons then?
I am being forced to play PVE dungeons to get the gear I need, you are in pvp for some shiny swag. Hardly seems to be a real issue.
It is funny though 2 hitting players with fancy skins and titles from pve on a build that is 50% complete.

Crimsonwolf666 · June 2020

MarshRangerHaz wrote: »

Not my favourite event either, I generally despise PvPvE stuff in games, but it's doable with a little patience.

I've been going to low pop zones and just sneaking across Cyrodiil for scouting missions. Imperial City is a little more tricky, and you're bound to get someone jumping you when you try to kill some dremora or whatever, but I just let people kill me and respawn right back to the same area, wait a few minutes for them to run off again and carry on with my day.

The best and, imo, quickest Cyrodiil daily is go up to Memorial District and grab the quest up top there. You just have to kill 2 Xivkin of any kind and place orbs on 4 skeletons (in green and unkillable, btw) all around the center there.

Crimsonwolf666 · June 2020

Crimsonwolf666 wrote: »

MarshRangerHaz wrote: »

Not my favourite event either, I generally despise PvPvE stuff in games, but it's doable with a little patience.

I've been going to low pop zones and just sneaking across Cyrodiil for scouting missions. Imperial City is a little more tricky, and you're bound to get someone jumping you when you try to kill some dremora or whatever, but I just let people kill me and respawn right back to the same area, wait a few minutes for them to run off again and carry on with my day.

The best and, imo, quickest Cyrodiil daily is go up to Memorial District and grab the quest up top there. You just have to kill 2 Xivkin of any kind and place orbs on 4 skeletons (in green and unkillable, btw) all around the center there.

*Imperial City daily...….my bad

ZaroktheImmortal · June 2020

kyle.wilson wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

Why is it that the best gear for pvp is locked behind trials and dlc dungeons then?
I am being forced to play PVE dungeons to get the gear I need, you are in pvp for some shiny swag. Hardly seems to be a real issue.
It is funny though 2 hitting players with fancy skins and titles from pve on a build that is 50% complete.

Well I'll agree that it is odd to put pvp gear in pve. You'd think they'd put that in pvp rewards.

ZaroktheImmortal · June 2020

Crimsonwolf666 wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

I speak of the aspect that in Black Desert Online for an obvious example, sit and gank crafters and fishers all day instead of seeking actual challenge or some semblance of sportsmanlike conduct and legit competition.

I'm talking about people who, knowing there is an influx of PVE players, go total ham selfish and camp entry points (and exit points) to the sewers, trapping people with no PVP gear or chance to defend themselves, nor interest in being there, basically wasting their time and ruining their experience.

For all I know, that is actually the whole reason they do it. Because it makes them happy to waste other people's time.

Any time a game is set up in such a way that rewards this type of behavior, even if not the explicitly intended result, I feel like I am contributing to a bad parent rewarding a child for rolling around on the floor in a place of business, knocking things off shelves and causing a scene.

I feel compelled to do more to protest my vicarious sponsorship of such behavior.

You must be new...even PvEers HAVE to engage with PvP to get certain Alliance War skills anyway. For example VIGOR which is most Stamina players main heal. Kinda entitled to demand that the PVP community doesn't EVER get an event for them event though 90% of events are PVE centered. Don't like it? Guess you can BUY the event tickets to get your mount pieces and pet and even the drops of style pages that happen during these events. And you want to minimize ganking??? Make sure you go to a campaign that is heavily populated with YOUR alliance. Everytime I look at campaigns for Cyrodiil or Imperial City, there is always at least 1 that favors 1 of the 3 alliances. Ask for groups or start your own. I am sorry you are realizing that their are ppl in PvP whose WHOLE purpose is to make other players miserable, but welcome to PvP world. There are definitely a few guilds that purposely portray such behavior too (cough, Toxic, cough).

I've seen plenty of pvpers complaining about the event either it'll make it more laggy or the pvers don't know what they're doing or just not wanting them in pvp in general.

ZaroktheImmortal · June 2020

Crimsonwolf666 wrote: »

MarshRangerHaz wrote: »

Not my favourite event either, I generally despise PvPvE stuff in games, but it's doable with a little patience.

I've been going to low pop zones and just sneaking across Cyrodiil for scouting missions. Imperial City is a little more tricky, and you're bound to get someone jumping you when you try to kill some dremora or whatever, but I just let people kill me and respawn right back to the same area, wait a few minutes for them to run off again and carry on with my day.

The best and, imo, quickest Cyrodiil daily is go up to Memorial District and grab the quest up top there. You just have to kill 2 Xivkin of any kind and place orbs on 4 skeletons (in green and unkillable, btw) all around the center there.

Crimsonwolf666 wrote: »

Crimsonwolf666 wrote: »

MarshRangerHaz wrote: »

Not my favourite event either, I generally despise PvPvE stuff in games, but it's doable with a little patience.

I've been going to low pop zones and just sneaking across Cyrodiil for scouting missions. Imperial City is a little more tricky, and you're bound to get someone jumping you when you try to kill some dremora or whatever, but I just let people kill me and respawn right back to the same area, wait a few minutes for them to run off again and carry on with my day.

The best and, imo, quickest Cyrodiil daily is go up to Memorial District and grab the quest up top there. You just have to kill 2 Xivkin of any kind and place orbs on 4 skeletons (in green and unkillable, btw) all around the center there.

*Imperial City daily...….my bad

It's actually two sets of tickets. You get two from either imperial city or battlegrounds then another two from Imperial City

kyle.wilson · June 2020

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

kyle.wilson wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

majulook wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Midyear Mayhem event?

Any game that forces PVE players to engage in PVP activities for ANY reason, even to gain some silly pixel reward like an Indrik mount, is catering to the worst aspect of the gaming community.

Why is it that the best gear for pvp is locked behind trials and dlc dungeons then?
I am being forced to play PVE dungeons to get the gear I need, you are in pvp for some shiny swag. Hardly seems to be a real issue.
It is funny though 2 hitting players with fancy skins and titles from pve on a build that is 50% complete.

Well I'll agree that it is odd to put pvp gear in pve. You'd think they'd put that in pvp rewards.

Does anyone get any use from rewards of the worthy gear? I either vender or decon 95% of the junk I get.