NA PC Megaserver dead

Jarndyce

Finally got in. Now stuck in long loading screen to Deshaan.

Santargria

Gotta a 200 then a sudden 103 error within a second

Ouch that's gotta hurt

mav1234

I would like to note it is not just logging in to the megaserver. I am logged in and there is significant delay interacting with NPCs.

TheKingofSass

Managed to log back in but there were still some other issues... Guild store wouldn't load at all, guild chat isn't working, except for zone chats. Its very buggy atm, I'm just gonna hop off to bed.

SeaUnicorn

Santargria wrote: »

Gotta a 200 then a sudden 103 error within a second

Ouch that's gotta hurt

I think it randomly alternates errors to keep you entertained.

Kurat

"Make sure you have a valid internet connection " lmfao
Oh, I forgot. I got fake internet connection.

phwaap

Kurat wrote: »

"Make sure you have a valid internet connection " lmfao
Oh, I forgot. I got fake internet connection.

Counterfeit internet connections are everywhere these days.

SshadowSscale

I mean for me it was no different than any other day.....account is already logged in......stuck in character load for 10+ minutes and finally made it into the game......been happening to me for about a month now so I just thought it was a new feature.

ZOS_SarahHecker

Just an update here:

ZOS_SarahHecker wrote: »

Hi all,

We will be taking the PC NA server offline shortly to address the ongoing login issues. We expect this maintenance to take around 2 hours. Thank you for your patience here.

ganzaeso

It is just weird. I can log into accounts from one of my computers now on both EU and NA, but the other computer is only able to login to the EU server.

nk125x

As a PC EU server user all I can say is "Welcome to the club!"

precambria

Thank you ZOS for taking down the server to do maintain, wish it would be done more often.

SpiderKnight

Kurat wrote: »

"Make sure you have a valid internet connection " lmfao
Oh, I forgot. I got fake internet connection.

I had my joke rubber ethernet cable plugged in, might want to check you didn't make the same mistake.

Deohjo

Why not moderate the server 5head

scorpius2k1

@Alcast

VelimOrthic

Why do I have such a strong suspicion this is MM-related. I swear to god I've never had that suspicion before (even though at times I ought to have)

VelimOrthic

don't forget our 2 (now) million gold you owe us, k?

ganzaeso

VelimOrthic wrote: »

Why do I have such a strong suspicion this is MM-related. I swear to god I've never had that suspicion before (even though at times I ought to have)

Addons don't cause this kind of issue. You need to have the client logged in before addons can even be an issue.

SshadowSscale

second time in one week are we gonna try and go for 3?

worrallj

I canceled my sub.

When this game launched Shoddycast predicted that the cash shop heralded a coming wave of relentlessly orienting the game around microtransactions, and that the game itself would suffer for it. That's largely been borne out and acknowledged, but I'd go even farther. I believe the cash shop is the cause of these never ending performance problems. I believe that ZOS doesn't care about the core game itself because we've already bought it - they don't get any money by fixing something they already sold us. They only care about the latest bundle of reskinned assets they're going to sell you.

I no longer believe ZOS when they say they're prioritizing these fixes. The crown store is their source of income. It's in your face the moment you open the game. The crown store works great and always has tons of new stuff in it. The quest givers that try to make you buy DLC literally chase you around town.

The game itself gives them no direct income so long as there's a core of people willing to dish out for cash shop items. As a result, It's not the priority and it only degrades over time.

Joxer61

worrallj wrote: »

I canceled my sub.

When this game launched Shoddycast predicted that the cash shop heralded a coming wave of relentlessly orienting the game around microtransactions, and that the game itself would suffer for it. That's largely been borne out and acknowledged, but I'd go even farther. I believe the cash shop is the cause of these never ending performance problems. I believe that ZOS doesn't care about the core game itself because we've already bought it - they don't get any money by fixing something they already sold us. They only care about the latest bundle of reskinned assets they're going to sell you.

I no longer believe ZOS when they say they're prioritizing these fixes. The crown store is their source of income. It's in your face the moment you open the game. The crown store works great and always has tons of new stuff in it. The quest givers that try to make you buy DLC literally chase you around town.

The game itself gives them no direct income so long as there's a core of people willing to dish out for cash shop items. As a result, It's not the priority and it only degrades over time.

can I has your stuffs?

VelimOrthic

ganzaeso wrote: »

VelimOrthic wrote: »

Why do I have such a strong suspicion this is MM-related. I swear to god I've never had that suspicion before (even though at times I ought to have)

Addons don't cause this kind of issue. You need to have the client logged in before addons can even be an issue.

As implied it's nearly impossible. But to be fair, lots of us have been able to log in through this, albeit sporadically.

worrallj

Joxer61 wrote: »

worrallj wrote: »

I canceled my sub.

When this game launched Shoddycast predicted that the cash shop heralded a coming wave of relentlessly orienting the game around microtransactions, and that the game itself would suffer for it. That's largely been borne out and acknowledged, but I'd go even farther. I believe the cash shop is the cause of these never ending performance problems. I believe that ZOS doesn't care about the core game itself because we've already bought it - they don't get any money by fixing something they already sold us. They only care about the latest bundle of reskinned assets they're going to sell you.

I no longer believe ZOS when they say they're prioritizing these fixes. The crown store is their source of income. It's in your face the moment you open the game. The crown store works great and always has tons of new stuff in it. The quest givers that try to make you buy DLC literally chase you around town.

The game itself gives them no direct income so long as there's a core of people willing to dish out for cash shop items. As a result, It's not the priority and it only degrades over time.

can I has your stuffs?

No. I'm an addict and will probably be back once I start jonesing.

Jakx

So why would a 2 hour primetime maintenance be needed after it was back and working fine? Getting ZOS'd. This couldn't wait till 4-5 AM tomorrow?

Thrasher91604

The curve has flattened.

Ackwalan

Jakx wrote: »

So why would a 2 hour primetime maintenance be needed after it was back and working fine? Getting ZOS'd. This couldn't wait till 4-5 AM tomorrow?

It's a more serious issue that if left till later, could cause a complete failure resulting in days to fix.

TineaCruris

worrallj wrote: »

I canceled my sub.

When this game launched Shoddycast predicted that the cash shop heralded a coming wave of relentlessly orienting the game around microtransactions, and that the game itself would suffer for it. That's largely been borne out and acknowledged, but I'd go even farther. I believe the cash shop is the cause of these never ending performance problems. I believe that ZOS doesn't care about the core game itself because we've already bought it - they don't get any money by fixing something they already sold us. They only care about the latest bundle of reskinned assets they're going to sell you.

I no longer believe ZOS when they say they're prioritizing these fixes. The crown store is their source of income. It's in your face the moment you open the game. The crown store works great and always has tons of new stuff in it. The quest givers that try to make you buy DLC literally chase you around town.

The game itself gives them no direct income so long as there's a core of people willing to dish out for cash shop items. As a result, It's not the priority and it only degrades over time.

DING DING DING

Now give the man (or woman) thier prize!

arena25

VelimOrthic wrote: »

Why do I have such a strong suspicion this is MM-related. I swear to god I've never had that suspicion before (even though at times I ought to have)

LMAO, my guild was just today talking about that time when a new feature that the MM addon creator put in pretty much wrecked guild functionality in ESO for weeks on end.

I actually looked up MM on Minion earlier today...seems as though the feature which wrecked the servers back then (named "Turbo Mode") was very super powerful, to the point where even MM's addon creator pleaded people not to run it all the time. But people apparently didn't listen, and so began a multi-week saga which went something like this:

First: Guild functionality was wrecked.
Second: All addons used by trading guilds was "broken" by Zeni, essentially leaving many trading guilds blind and also causing chaos in guild trader bids.
Third: At ZOS request, Turbo Mode was removed from MM, but they still did not restore functionality.
Fourth: Issues was fixed.
Fifth: Almost all addons were allowed to be used again, with the exception of MM.
Finally: MM was allowed to be used again after several weeks of offline, with severe restrictions on how MM can pull data.

I don't know if there's any connection, but MM has not been received API bumps for the last 2 patches (at least, if Minion is telling me correctly). It remains to be seen if Greymoor will mean the MM addon ceator will bump the API. Or if the addon creator decides to just not touch it ever again, to avoid drawing the wrath of ZOS.

shadyjane62

Down again.

TineaCruris

arena25 wrote: »

VelimOrthic wrote: »

Why do I have such a strong suspicion this is MM-related. I swear to god I've never had that suspicion before (even though at times I ought to have)

LMAO, my guild was just today talking about that time when a new feature that the MM addon creator put in pretty much wrecked guild functionality in ESO for weeks on end.

I actually looked up MM on Minion earlier today...seems as though the feature which wrecked the servers back then (named "Turbo Mode") was very super powerful, to the point where even MM's addon creator pleaded people not to run it all the time. But people apparently didn't listen, and so began a multi-week saga which went something like this:

First: Guild functionality was wrecked.
Second: All addons used by trading guilds was "broken" by Zeni, essentially leaving many trading guilds blind and also causing chaos in guild trader bids.
Third: At ZOS request, Turbo Mode was removed from MM, but they still did not restore functionality.
Fourth: Issues was fixed.
Fifth: Almost all addons were allowed to be used again, with the exception of MM.
Finally: MM was allowed to be used again after several weeks of offline, with severe restrictions on how MM can pull data.

I don't know if there's any connection, but MM has not been received API bumps for the last 2 patches (at least, if Minion is telling me correctly). It remains to be seen if Greymoor will mean the MM addon ceator will bump the API. Or if the addon creator decides to just not touch it ever again, to avoid drawing the wrath of ZOS.

This outage is very unlikely to have been caused by an add-on. The suggestion it might be seems like a distraction actually.