PTS Details for Greymoor & Update 26

SpLaTTyDaDDy

Taktak wrote: »

nerf necro
nerf nb clock

Yes because we dont want them pesky nightblade's to be able to tell time now do we!

JonnytheKing

Taktak wrote: »

nerf necro
nerf nb clock

yer nerf nb , that are all ready behind , sure makes sense

Eldartar

I just want to take a few seconds to thank ZOS_@GinaBruno for all the hard work she does every Patch, it can't be easy getting all the information together etc. Thank you Gina.

Caelc

Eldartar wrote: »

I just want to take a few seconds to thank ZOS_@GinaBruno for all the hard work she does every Patch, it can't be easy getting all the information together etc. Thank you Gina.

She gets thanks by getting paid for doing her job.

Enodoc

Jaraal wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

JobooAGS wrote: »

The no NDA portion concerns me due to spoilers

Yes, certainly an interesting choice. "we would appreciate not spoiling the main story" is an appeal to people's good nature rather than an actual restriction.

Main story was spoiled as soon as we knew a character many had sacrificed to stop the planemeld was inexplicably reappearing to lead it. Immersion will always be tainted by that in a lot of our minds. But I guess sell outs are an integral part of the real world, no reason to be surprised they occur in the virtual world as well.

That kinda went out the window last year with Sai. As soon as you bring back one potential sacrifice, they're all up for grabs. Besides, I don't think a character who directly appears in the prologue quest counts as a main story spoiler.

Saucy_Jack

What's the necessary free space needed for the download? I thought it would be ~70-80 GB given how they streamlined the code, but apparently that's not enough. Does anyone have any numbers on the space they needed?

Aznox

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

What's the necessary free space needed for the download? I thought it would be ~70-80 GB given how they streamlined the code, but apparently that's not enough. Does anyone have any numbers on the space they needed?

125GB to start the download, around 72GB used at the end.

Saucy_Jack

Ok - I've got roughly 130 GB free, but it's still throwing the not-enough-space error. Bleh.

To the laboratory!

fxeconomisteb17_ESO

Due to the isolation, Greymoor is most anticipated now rather than at its official release.

Strykerous

Please stop nerfing nightblades already, we are to the point where the only 2 skills useful in it are shadowy desguise and swallow soul. If you wanna nerf, nerf the necromancers please!

Kinnahz

I'm excited for Antiquities, a new trial and a new story line.

I'm not excited for the changes to the way I play the game again and the character I play with again. Yes, this is an MMO and things will change, but things change far too often.

The biggest kicker here is the change to Perfected Asylum and Perfected Maelstrom weapons.

My dudes, our vMA weapons previously had the additional bonus and then you nerfed it and your now giving it back?
Your making the Perfected Asylum staff proc on 3 cast in 5 seconds up from 2 cast, this two cast is what made it viable!

Sometimes I think the Devs are a little removed from their own game and may even be the 'Casual' players they are catering for. I'm all for levelling the playing field but at least TRY to do so without ruining long-time players/endgame players experience in the meantime.... These are the ones that will adapt and continue to play the game, but you have to draw a line somewhere...

frozywozy

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert

I would like to say that it is really appreciated to see performance improvement plans part of the patch notes and I am very excited and looking forward to the changes. I really hope that the first quarter of server improvements will make significant changes to our ping (ms).

I am mainly referring to the "Player Character Loading" optimizations since the non combat pet changes do not impact PvP and the rest of the changes seem to be affecting mainly client and framerates.

This being said, it is pretty disappointing to continue to not see anything related to the combat bug or other important flaws who have been reinforced with the first quarter of the performances improvement plans such as the CC / Streak bug , the major character roll backs and character / abilities desyncs.

Here are some insights describing these issues in case you have no idea what I'm talking about.
I will disregard the first one as it has been in the game since the beginning , better or worse , the combat bug.

1) CC / Streak bug

This issue seems to happens with a combination of one or more of the following elements in a specific order :

- Being rooted by a player
- Being streaked by a player
- CC breaking

When this bug triggers, there are different clues to identify it :

- You have a "Streak" debuff in your character info for hundreds or thousand of days
- Your character can walk or run sideways
- You can cc break even if you don't have a hard cc applied on you
- You cannot bash (it triggers cc breaking)

As a result, during intense fights and during heavy lag, sometimes it's hard to know if you are cced or not so you tend to cc break when you don't need to from time to time in hope to get moving faster. On a magicka toon with a very low stamina pool, it drains drastically and make it hard to survive outnumbered.

The only solution known as for Today for this bug is to relog which again , if not done correctly using the task manager, will put you right back into queue for Cyrodiil since there is still no system in place to give you at least 5 to 10 minutes to relog without queuing.

2) Character roll back / Character and abilities desync

These two bugs are very similar and good chances they are triggered by a very close mechanic. It ocurs during heavy lag when said player get hit by a hard CC such as :

- Meteor or any of it's morph
- Javelin or any of it's morph
- Magnum Shot
- Streak

The character rollback is experienced as followed. I will describe it from the victim's perspective and from the rest of the player's side of view. Note that this one is caused by abilities with knockbacks mainly so I don't believe Streak is a cause.

Victim

As a victim, you won't see any difference from the start after being affected by a knockback ability. Sometimes you won't even get knocked back until much later on (10 seconds to 30 seconds after). On your screen, your character will keep walking normally but you won't be able to :

- use skills
- weapon swap

You might also notice that you are taking alot of extra damage which does not make sense to you.
You will understand why in a moment.

After a certain amount of time, the knockback will trigger itself and then two different things can ocur on your screen :

- You will cc break and then your character will slowly teleport itself with your body doing the fallen animation while flying and sliding back to the location where the CC initially hit you and while taking damage from players who see you at the initial location.

OR

- Before the knockback happens, you might notice that you're taking alot of damage during that whole period of time even though you see your character out of range of any source of pressure, then you will cc break the knockback and everything will go back to normal.

Other players

For the rest of the players and from the first hit by the knockback ability, they will see the victim standing in place until the rollback is over
- If this is the first scenario, they will see the victim suddendely teleporting back to the group if the player was kept alive with heals from group members while he was getting rollback.
- In the second scenario, it will be the other way around. The other players won't see a difference as the victim will stay in the same spot during the whole time and will need help to catch back up to the group once the rollback is over.

The character and abilities desync triggers when you get hit by any of the hard ccs mentioned above including Streak. It shows the same on the victim and the other players. It is similar to a character rollback but won't keep your character in place on the server side (rollback). From the point of impact until 10 to 30 seconds after, you won't be able to weapon swap, use abilities, dodge roll or block.

This being said, mechanics that are supposed to drain your stamina will still do. I have yet to understand how to fix this bug. I usually wait it out.

These are only the major issues in my book which could be addressed simply if ZOS staff members would take the time to communicate with active pvp players who have developed certain knowledges on how these bugs work and who could provide crucial information on how to reproduce it.

Since it's evident at this point that ZOS staff members do not PvP in Cyrodiil on a regular basis to understand these problems, they should really reach out to players who can help on their free will for the best of all.

Patro

This is the worst eso patch since release. The combat was not been balanced and with the new sets and mythic items now pvp is insane: duels are won in few moments by who bursted before the opponent, I don't want to imagine what a 1 vs x fight will be like in Cyrodiil.

Tyrannitar

... Weird. I don't see anything about updating our arena weapons. [snip]
[edited for bashing]

OhNoDaedra

Nerf melee distance attack, please, Its like bug hurt to hit an enemy with a one-handed sword with 3 meters further

Vetixio

I think they should add a few minor disease resist buffs to Vampire and Werewolf it makes sense and is lore friendly and would help them a little in some content. And considering the possible dire state of Vampires this might be some condolence lol.

evoprimes

What? Cyro lag will be fixed?

indigorune

What is the correct section in game to report issues with the antiquity system?

Elsonso

n0tthesun wrote: »

What is the correct section in game to report issues with the antiquity system?

Here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/522304/

Banana

evoprimes wrote: »

What? Cyro lag will be fixed?

Your funny

indigorune

Elsonso wrote: »

n0tthesun wrote: »

What is the correct section in game to report issues with the antiquity system?

Here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/522304/

in-game

I have heard that reporting on the forums is less effective than in-game reports.

Elsonso

n0tthesun wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

n0tthesun wrote: »

What is the correct section in game to report issues with the antiquity system?

Here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/522304/

in-game

I have heard that reporting on the forums is less effective than in-game reports.

Sorry. Missed that. So, what is it, then?

indigorune

Elsonso wrote: »

n0tthesun wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

n0tthesun wrote: »

What is the correct section in game to report issues with the antiquity system?

Here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/522304/

in-game

I have heard that reporting on the forums is less effective than in-game reports.

Sorry. Missed that. So, what is it, then?

After successfully scrying, the map opens to show the excavation area, and the map stops working without a /reloadui. Can't click wayshrines, and sometimes the map will "stick" on the screen. I just don't know what category of /feedback would be best to report this.

Elsonso

n0tthesun wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

n0tthesun wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

n0tthesun wrote: »

What is the correct section in game to report issues with the antiquity system?

Here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/522304/

in-game

I have heard that reporting on the forums is less effective than in-game reports.

Sorry. Missed that. So, what is it, then?

After successfully scrying, the map opens to show the excavation area, and the map stops working without a /reloadui. Can't click wayshrines, and sometimes the map will "stick" on the screen. I just don't know what category of /feedback would be best to report this.

Was there an "[E] Continue" at the bottom of the map?



(Edit... paste fail)

indigorune

Elsonso wrote: »

n0tthesun wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

n0tthesun wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

n0tthesun wrote: »

What is the correct section in game to report issues with the antiquity system?

Here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/522304/

in-game

I have heard that reporting on the forums is less effective than in-game reports.

Sorry. Missed that. So, what is it, then?

After successfully scrying, the map opens to show the excavation area, and the map stops working without a /reloadui. Can't click wayshrines, and sometimes the map will "stick" on the screen. I just don't know what category of /feedback would be best to report this.

Was there an "[E] Continue" at the bottom of the map?



(Edit... paste fail)

No, I didn't have that. Even after clicking ESC to get out of map, when I go back into it, I cannot click wayshrines or interact with the righthand map menu. I have to completely reloadui to get things to function.

scottii

Patro wrote: »

This is the worst eso patch since release. The combat was not been balanced and with the new sets and mythic items now pvp is insane: duels are won in few moments by who bursted before the opponent, I don't want to imagine what a 1 vs x fight will be like in Cyrodiil.

and when I warned people about this, they laughed.

silentdeath714

I hope someone who works in the game reads this.
Currently in Na Ps4 we have hardcore EP guilds filling DC side in PvP. They never touch EP side they just hang out at N or S wayshrine or around AD side and escort EP for the scrolls. We get gated while these EP guilds just troll chat. They all wear their guild tobards. And I just head about alliance tokens and came here.

I hope you don’t ignore this because it will get worse.

Folkvar

Can we have Group Battleground queues again PLEAAASEEEEE????

Brovah

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone!

With Greymoor and Update 26 coming to the PTS next Monday, we’d like to go over a few logistical items so you know what to expect once maintenance completes and the PTS becomes available.

1. First, there will be no NDA for the Chapter (this also means no watermark on your screen!) That said, we would appreciate not spoiling the main story. We’ll have a specific thread where you can post feedback or bug reports for the main story to aid with this.
   
   
   
   Like anyone actually cares about this.. what a lol..
   Just show what you will do about performance and those Dragonstar & Maelstrom weapons after all this feedback.. The rest is just not that important
   

Lady_Rosabella

@ZOS_GinaBruno not sure if it has been asked yest, but with the Live release date being pushed to May 26, 2020, for PC/Mac, will the PTS be up and running for week of May 18th and if so, will it still be set to EU characters or does it switch back to NA?

Thanks!