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GREYMOOR DESYNCS!

  • Kinetiks
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    well they didnt lie, it was a performance patch for better or for worse
  • technohic
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    Im in playing again for maybe the 2nd time in a month or so. Still awful. Comically so.
    Edited by technohic on April 23, 2020 1:02AM
  • meekmiko
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    Aektann wrote: »
    Problem is still here! Any ETA? Or you think we forget about this? This is just naive.

    No, but they're occupied getting Greymoor ready. So no major fixes will be deployed until U26 and we'll have to fight with this for another what, six weeks?

    The desync is still alive and well on the Greymoor PTS. :/ Tested it out myself.
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  • Elsonso
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    meekmiko wrote: »
    Aektann wrote: »
    Problem is still here! Any ETA? Or you think we forget about this? This is just naive.

    No, but they're occupied getting Greymoor ready. So no major fixes will be deployed until U26 and we'll have to fight with this for another what, six weeks?

    The desync is still alive and well on the Greymoor PTS. :/ Tested it out myself.

    Yeah, chances are if they had a fix for Greymoor PTS, it would have made it to Live already.
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  • technohic
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    meekmiko wrote: »
    Aektann wrote: »
    Problem is still here! Any ETA? Or you think we forget about this? This is just naive.

    No, but they're occupied getting Greymoor ready. So no major fixes will be deployed until U26 and we'll have to fight with this for another what, six weeks?

    The desync is still alive and well on the Greymoor PTS. :/ Tested it out myself.

    Expect this, but it's still a kick in the balls. Sucks because I really wanted to buy the expansion again, resub, and play the game. Even wanted to buy the nord hero armor. Wont spend a penny right now though. Basically I'm not playing this game, even when I do log in. It just doesn't let me.
  • technohic
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    Shadow banned a thread? I've never heard of that. But we will see, because I thought under threat of being banned from the forum we were supposed to continue discussions in their original thread topics. So here goes...

    The desync issue is unreal, as we all know. It seemed like it got better for a few days, sort of. It actually seemed like it got a tiny bit better in PvP, but a tiny bit worse in PvE. I was having some minor issues in 4 man dungeons the last couple days, but PvP seemed a tiny bit better except in the largest of fights when factions are stacking.

    ...and to recap, it appears to me that this thread did repost at the top of the discussion page in terms of most recent thread discussed. I think things are ok on that front, but this lag is serious, serious, serious

    If it has been getting bumped again then that is new. It was not bumping after the last moderator claimed he was going to shut down the thread.

    It never got shut down, but stopped getting bumped. Glad to see that is not the case anymore.

    Yes, the desyncs are very very very bad for the game. There has not been any new information released about their progress on addressing them for weeks, and the last time there was any mention of it, the response was basically a copy-paste from week 1 of update 25.

    There has been zero NEW information about their progress for 2 months. They aren't even talking about it anymore.

    PTS has these desyncs still in place, so their new chapter will release with them.

    I will honestly be shocked if it ever gets fixed. It is far more likely to be swept under the rug as the players just get used to terrible performance, just like they have been adapting to it for the last 6 years.

    It was locked but then when @ZOS_SarahHecker posted on the 9th, it got unlocked again. I think they changed the forums to where the original poster cannot bump their own thread. Kind of weird.

    Since I tagged Sarah; any chance we can get an update for plans for a fix? Reports are desync still happening even on PTS.
  • khajiitNPC
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    We need desync fixed. Absolute shenanigans. This is the worst! PTS Cyrodiil sucks too. WTH zo$. Get your stuff together.
  • technohic
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    Yep its absolutely unplayable on prime time. I am amazed and befuddled how so many people are still showing up. It enables this attitude of awful quality.
  • thegreat_one
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    It's hard to place a bad rep on the game or the developer because I think they saw what happened to EA and made sure not to let people comment or review their products. Unsuspecting customers cannot be warned / protect from this crap.

    How many times have I seen " WTF is this lag?" and "I'm new is there something wrong with the game?"

    I just checked steam Elder Scrolls reviews. Alot of positive bumps in the last 30 days by users who have only reviewed 1 game.
    I feel this is an attempt to cover up the actual bad reviews which should be getting posted to tell people what they will be getting when they purchase that.

    OK I will change my opinion. The reviews are mostly content related, which is a 5 star. Not gunna lie, there is a ton of stuff in this game.
    It is the performance that people need to be aware of.

    And I can only see 7 reviews for Greymoor and no score.
    Is there a thing that people do to boost a games rating on steam?
    And, is it possible to link this thread on a review to get people aware of what is going on?
    We need to stand up for ourselves and our fellow gamers.
    Edited by thegreat_one on April 24, 2020 12:13AM
  • ZOS_RogerJ
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    Just a friendly reminder, as some posts have been removed, that we do not tolerate the deliberate and malicious spreading of false info or conspiracy theories about ZeniMax Online Studios, its game(s), or its employees. This does not include honest mistakes; rather, this rule pertains to those who go out of their way to spread harmful or malicious rumors about ZeniMax Online Studios and its employees, or The Elder Scrolls Online.
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  • Sleep724
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    ZOS_RogerJ wrote: »
    Just a friendly reminder, as some posts have been removed, that we do not tolerate the deliberate and malicious spreading of false info or conspiracy theories about ZeniMax Online Studios, its game(s), or its employees. This does not include honest mistakes; rather, this rule pertains to those who go out of their way to spread harmful or malicious rumors about ZeniMax Online Studios and its employees, or The Elder Scrolls Online.

    First time I’ve ever seen this.
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    the whole thread should be closed because the dysinc is from Lagg and High Ping, Not from players and its not able to be reproduced.
    dysinc. is. from. lagg.
    Edited by Gilvoth on April 23, 2020 11:18PM
  • Princess_Ciri
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    pve mobs spinning in circles, abilities not firing, light attacks not firing, massive desyncs..........

    I thought cyrodil was bad, pve trials are bad, but then i tried questing and even that is lagging.... what is happening to this game? My ping is 42 but it feels like it's 500+
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  • technohic
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    the whole thread should be closed because the dysinc is from Lagg and High Ping, Not from players and its not able to be reproduced.
    dysinc. is. from. lagg.

    It can do it without high ping. It's a sync issue with the server. What we have had forever has been lag. Update 25 majorly broke something. Been all sorts of videos reproducing. Once you are out of sync, you are out of sync.

    [Edit to remove discussing disciplinary actions]
    Edited by [Deleted User] on April 24, 2020 6:11PM
  • Ahtu
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    I went to change my CP and even that is lagging. It took several seconds for the star to light up after taking points out of the tree.
  • Lime923
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    I'm going back to WOW. I generally like ESO better but at least that game works properly.
  • thegreat_one
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    Serious question.....

    Ahtu, are you in Cyro when you were changing CP?

    The issues that PVP player are facing are compounded by lag created by the massive amounts of players in one area.

    We already know you could zerg another faction into crashing. That is not new.

    The things happening to PvE events, cannot be strictly lag related.

    My crashes Cyro have almost gone away to be honest. I feel the data being transmitted is slowed down so much that the game is pretty much paused to prevent people from crashing. Until update 25, if there was to much for the server to handle, multiple people would crash.

    Now we all just stand still or do nothing until it can catch up.
    I think when we are talking about our situation we need to identify if we are in cyro or not.
  • Waynerx8
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    ZOS_RogerJ wrote: »
    Just a friendly reminder, as some posts have been removed, that we do not tolerate the deliberate and malicious spreading of false info or conspiracy theories about ZeniMax Online Studios, its game(s), or its employees. This does not include honest mistakes; rather, this rule pertains to those who go out of their way to spread harmful or malicious rumors about ZeniMax Online Studios and its employees, or The Elder Scrolls Online.

    You believe that all the the desync's, lag, basic stuff not working and very obvious worsening performance is just malicious false rumour spreading ???

    There is clear video proof from many different people showing the same issues, maybe ZOS should show its paying loyal player base a little respect, they are just frustrated people not tin foil wearing conspiracy theorists, be thankfull they are still here to care.

  • Stridig
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    ZOS_RogerJ wrote: »
    Just a friendly reminder, as some posts have been removed, that we do not tolerate the deliberate and malicious spreading of false info or conspiracy theories about ZeniMax Online Studios, its game(s), or its employees. This does not include honest mistakes; rather, this rule pertains to those who go out of their way to spread harmful or malicious rumors about ZeniMax Online Studios and its employees, or The Elder Scrolls Online.

    Someone must have said Cyrodiil is great and ZOS cares about the community.
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  • Aektann
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    Time to go on metacritic and review bomb this broken crap.
  • Relladen
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    ZOS_RogerJ wrote: »
    Just a friendly reminder, as some posts have been removed, that we do not tolerate the deliberate and malicious spreading of false info or conspiracy theories about ZeniMax Online Studios, its game(s), or its employees. This does not include honest mistakes; rather, this rule pertains to those who go out of their way to spread harmful or malicious rumors about ZeniMax Online Studios and its employees, or The Elder Scrolls Online.

    Welp....new lows XD
  • WldKarde
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    I've already had my hand slapped for hurting ZOS's feelings in this thread...

    So....

    The game is AWESOME!

    ZOS is AWESOME!

    My Opinions due NOT matter after playing ESO for 6 years...

    *waves hand* "Nothing to see here! This isn't the game you're looking for!" :wink:
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  • relentless_turnip
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    Could we at the very least have a yes or no answer if this is something ZOS are actively investigating @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_RichLambert ?

    It feels like efforts to bury the conversation have increased lately...
    The last time someone from the developer team commented on it was the 9th of April and it has been an issue since the end of February.
    I watched the live stream a couple of days a go and Skyrim looks amazing, but I was some what distracted by the efforts made to avoid this issue. I am worried we are going into Greymoor with these issues and I haven't heard anything to assure me otherwise.

    I would love to know if any progress has been made? but the silence has been so deafening for too long, I would settle for a yes or a no?
    Edited by relentless_turnip on April 24, 2020 5:25AM
  • Curious_Death
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    NinchiTV wrote: »
    revert the block changes, let us ani cancel and take cast time off ults.

    do you realise that's going to bring back have fun in pvp ? how dare you!!!
  • Elsonso
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    Could we at the very least have a yes or no answer if this is something ZOS are actively investigating ZOS_GinaBruno ZOS_JessicaFolsom ZOS_BrianWheeler ZOS_RichLambert ?

    I would love to know if any progress has been made? but the silence has been so deafening for too long, I would settle for a yes or a no?

    Yes, the patch notes at least made reference to it, and that has apparently stopped. My gut says that they are working on it, but this whole Greymoor thing is clogging the scarce communication channels we have.
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  • relentless_turnip
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    Elsonso wrote: »
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    Could we at the very least have a yes or no answer if this is something ZOS are actively investigating ZOS_GinaBruno ZOS_JessicaFolsom ZOS_BrianWheeler ZOS_RichLambert ?

    I would love to know if any progress has been made? but the silence has been so deafening for too long, I would settle for a yes or a no?

    Yes, the patch notes at least made reference to it, and that has apparently stopped. My gut says that they are working on it, but this whole Greymoor thing is clogging the scarce communication channels we have.

    Did they talk about it in the patch notes? I must have missed that....

    I'll have another look though. Thanks :smile:
  • Sarousse
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_RichLambert

    Cyrodiil is still unplayable.

    With the last changes we can't even group up with friends to do battlegrounds.

    Not a single word from a ZoS leader on this subject.

    When is the real performance fix going in ?
  • danthemann5
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    This game has been fundamentally broken for at least the last 8 weeks.

    8 weeks.

    If it was going to be fixed it would have been by now. It's clear to the casual observer that fixing the desyncs is not, as stated, a top priority, or any priority at all. We've had no meaningful communication from ZOS on the issue for more than a month.

    This isn't getting fixed. Period. Performance today is the best it will ever be going forward.
    ZeniMax has no obligation to correct any errors or defects in the Services.

    Greetings! We've closed this thread due to its non-constructive nature.

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  • TineaCruris
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    The lag in cyro today is game breaking again today. Some days it seems to be slightly better, but today it's really bad again. Is this just server load doing this? Does ZOS just need to buy more server capacity?
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    The lag in cyro today is game breaking again today. Some days it seems to be slightly better, but today it's really bad again. Is this just server load doing this? Does ZOS just need to buy more server capacity?

    PC EU is apparently getting one Soon™ as they announced maintenance to prep for it. Since it was an out of cycle maintenance, and they don't normally tell us when they upgrade the servers, my guess it will be very soon. I doubt that this will help with Cyrodiil, though. That is not a capacity problem. It should help with PVE and Overland disconnects, logging in, etc.
    Edited by Elsonso on April 24, 2020 4:48PM
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