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    dazee wrote: »
    I'd really like to be playing right now, but I wont be stupid enough to log in just to have a high chance of being banned for no reason.

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  • Casterial
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    zoomorph wrote: »
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    Thank you!
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    are you going to apologize to everyone when it is proven these were in error?

    Nope. I'm sure that those who were wrongfully accused will return after ZOS investigation is complete. They would at most have lost a few gaming days. This is, in my opinion, a small price to pay to get rid of the cheaters.

    Try weeks to months like the email has stated.

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  • Freddycruz89
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    Well, my game froze last night around 12:45 when I tried to travel out of Xanmeer home. I tried to get back in several times since I wanted to pick up the daily crafting writs before server reset, but couldn't connect to server. Just decided to go to bed and figured servers were down or something. Went to work this morning and havent tried to log back in as of last night. Im on PS4 NA. Havent gotten an email, but now I'm worried...

    Its unlikely this is happening to anyone on consoles. If this is not ZOS going after cheaters, and doing a poor job of it, then its either related to add-ons or the recent update the PC crowd received. More than likely your game crashed and will be fine when you log in next.

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  • zoomorph
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    dazee wrote: »

    and when this glitch hits you too, you'll be singing a different tune. better not log on.

    I have been logged in several times today. And i fear nothing, because i don't cheat.
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    Following along
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  • Elsonso
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    From Reddit, people are apparently being unbanned, right now.
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  • dazee
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    zoomorph wrote: »
    dazee wrote: »

    and when this glitch hits you too, you'll be singing a different tune. better not log on.

    I have been logged in several times today. And i fear nothing, because i don't cheat.

    Neither do I but unlike you I know what is happening and am not sticking my head in the sand denying it.
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  • Brandathorbel
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    zoomorph wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    are you going to apologize to everyone when it is proven these were in error?

    Nope. I'm sure that those who were wrongfully accused will return after ZOS investigation is complete. They would at most have lost a few gaming days. This is, in my opinion, a small price to pay to get rid of the cheaters.

    well you are calling people cheaters when they are not, which deserves an apology.

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  • Casterial
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    They're unsuspending people right now..... @dazee which proves it was their fault..?
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  • dazee
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    Casterial wrote: »
    They're unsuspending people right now..... @dazee which proves it was their fault..?

    Well I will risk logging in then becuase I would HOPE they would fix the problem before un banning the people it banned.
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    Someone has claimed in a private message to me, that 100s of people have been banned and posted on a reddit post. Can someone confirm this, and send me a link privately? I would like to see the post. I searched Reddit and found a few people who stated they were banned, but not 100s.
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    Derra wrote: »
    zoomorph wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    are you going to apologize to everyone when it is proven these were in error?

    Nope. I'm sure that those who were wrongfully accused will return after ZOS investigation is complete. They would at most have lost a few gaming days. This is, in my opinion, a small price to pay to get rid of the cheaters.

    Isn´t that pretty backwards?

    They could just not ban ppl and just flag accounts to investigate and if nothing if found the people are not bothered?

    Guilty until proven innocent I guess.
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    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    zoomorph wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    are you going to apologize to everyone when it is proven these were in error?

    Nope. I'm sure that those who were wrongfully accused will return after ZOS investigation is complete. They would at most have lost a few gaming days. This is, in my opinion, a small price to pay to get rid of the cheaters.

    Isn´t that pretty backwards?

    They could just not ban ppl and just flag accounts to investigate and if nothing if found the people are not bothered?

    Guilty until proven innocent I guess.

    That's how its worked in online games for years.
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  • Regal_Imp
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    I have been un-muted and un-banned! but honestly this isn't over for me.

    People make mistakes, and software can have bugs that may ban people, but this is ridiculous, at the very least admit that you made a mistake. Explain how this happened, why did I get censored after I made a forum post about it?

    This was obviously ZOS' fault and they're gonna pretend this never happened.


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  • ManwithBeard9
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    Regal_Imp wrote: »
    I have been un-muted and un-banned! but honestly this isn't over for me.

    People make mistakes, and software can have bugs that may ban people, but this is ridiculous, at the very least admit that you made a mistake. Explain how this happened, why did I get censored after I made a forum post about it?

    This was obviously ZOS' fault and they're gonna pretend this never happened.


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    All they'll say is that something triggered a false positive and they'll work on it for the the future. They won't give details about how they flag anti-cheat stuff.
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    Regal_Imp wrote: »
    I have been un-muted and un-banned! but honestly this isn't over for me.

    People make mistakes, and software can have bugs that may ban people, but this is ridiculous, at the very least admit that you made a mistake. Explain how this happened, why did I get censored after I made a forum post about it?

    This was obviously ZOS' fault and they're gonna pretend this never happened.


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  • zoomorph
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    xbobx15 wrote: »
    zoomorph wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    are you going to apologize to everyone when it is proven these were in error?

    Nope. I'm sure that those who were wrongfully accused will return after ZOS investigation is complete. They would at most have lost a few gaming days. This is, in my opinion, a small price to pay to get rid of the cheaters.

    well you are calling people cheaters when they are not, which deserves an apology. So man up.

    For what? as i said, people that are not cheating is getting unbanned. There are cheaters in this game, and they should get kicked. And i'm not sorry at all if they are.
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    Regal_Imp wrote: »
    I have been un-muted and un-banned! but honestly this isn't over for me.

    People make mistakes, and software can have bugs that may ban people, but this is ridiculous, at the very least admit that you made a mistake. Explain how this happened, why did I get censored after I made a forum post about it?

    This was obviously ZOS' fault and they're gonna pretend this never happened.


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    They should talk to us to be honest.
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  • BackStabeth
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    xbobx15 wrote: »
    Someone has claimed in a private message to me, that 100s of people have been banned and posted on a reddit post. Can someone confirm this, and send me a link privately? I would like to see the post. I searched Reddit and found a few people who stated they were banned, but not 100s.

    read before posting.

    Read what before posting? Someone sent me a PRIVATE message claiming hundreds of people have stated on a reddit post they have been banned. I asked for a link to be sent to me privately, so I can read it myself. Mind clarifying what you mean by read before posting?
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  • Regal_Imp
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    zoomorph wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    zoomorph wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    are you going to apologize to everyone when it is proven these were in error?

    Nope. I'm sure that those who were wrongfully accused will return after ZOS investigation is complete. They would at most have lost a few gaming days. This is, in my opinion, a small price to pay to get rid of the cheaters.

    well you are calling people cheaters when they are not, which deserves an apology. So man up.

    For what? as i said, people that are not cheating is getting unbanned. There are cheaters in this game, and they should get kicked. And i'm not sorry at all if they are.

    I understand there needs to be bans, and false positives will happen, but when you mess up on such a huge scale and try and cover it up, you're practicing terrible corporate ethics, and the company deserves to be burned for that. Since you admit that this ban wave was a mistake, think about how you would have felt if you got banned for no reason, its just a stupid policy and bad coding.
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  • GhostWolf_ESO
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    Regal_Imp wrote: »
    I have been un-muted and un-banned! but honestly this isn't over for me.

    People make mistakes, and software can have bugs that may ban people, but this is ridiculous, at the very least admit that you made a mistake. Explain how this happened, why did I get censored after I made a forum post about it?

    This was obviously ZOS' fault and they're gonna pretend this never happened.


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    All they'll say is that something triggered a false positive and they'll work on it for the the future. They won't give details about how they flag anti-cheat stuff.

    b/c their anti-cheat software has had problems from day fkn one they need to update or find another anti cheat system
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  • GhostWolf_ESO
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    Casterial wrote: »
    Regal_Imp wrote: »
    I have been un-muted and un-banned! but honestly this isn't over for me.

    People make mistakes, and software can have bugs that may ban people, but this is ridiculous, at the very least admit that you made a mistake. Explain how this happened, why did I get censored after I made a forum post about it?

    This was obviously ZOS' fault and they're gonna pretend this never happened.


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    They should talk to us to be honest.

    they feel we as their customers are beneath them they would never talk to us
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    This update has gone off without a hitch!
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  • Brandathorbel
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    zoomorph wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    zoomorph wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    are you going to apologize to everyone when it is proven these were in error?

    Nope. I'm sure that those who were wrongfully accused will return after ZOS investigation is complete. They would at most have lost a few gaming days. This is, in my opinion, a small price to pay to get rid of the cheaters.

    well you are calling people cheaters when they are not, which deserves an apology. So man up.

    For what? as i said, people that are not cheating is getting unbanned. There are cheaters in this game, and they should get kicked. And i'm not sorry at all if they are.

    you basically implied that all the people being banned were cheaters.
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    Regal_Imp wrote: »
    zoomorph wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    zoomorph wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
    are you going to apologize to everyone when it is proven these were in error?

    Nope. I'm sure that those who were wrongfully accused will return after ZOS investigation is complete. They would at most have lost a few gaming days. This is, in my opinion, a small price to pay to get rid of the cheaters.

    well you are calling people cheaters when they are not, which deserves an apology. So man up.

    For what? as i said, people that are not cheating is getting unbanned. There are cheaters in this game, and they should get kicked. And i'm not sorry at all if they are.

    I understand there needs to be bans, and false positives will happen, but when you mess up on such a huge scale and try and cover it up, you're practicing terrible corporate ethics, and the company deserves to be burned for that. Since you admit that this ban wave was a mistake, think about how you would have felt if you got banned for no reason, its just a stupid policy and bad coding.

    What is your evidence that ZOS are trying to cover anything up? If they were doing so they wouldn't be re-activating the accounts, would they?

    Do we yet know if they are re-activating every single banned account? I guess it's too early to know.
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    So, is it safe to log in now? Or are the faulty (?) mechanisms for deciding who to ban/investigate still in place?
    Thanks in advance for letting us know one way or another please. @ZOS_GinaBruno
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  • Brandathorbel
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    xbobx15 wrote: »
    Someone has claimed in a private message to me, that 100s of people have been banned and posted on a reddit post. Can someone confirm this, and send me a link privately? I would like to see the post. I searched Reddit and found a few people who stated they were banned, but not 100s.

    read before posting.

    Read what before posting? Someone sent me a PRIVATE message claiming hundreds of people have stated on a reddit post they have been banned. I asked for a link to be sent to me privately, so I can read it myself. Mind clarifying what you mean by read before posting?

    that is what this whole thread is about and by the time you posted that it was showed that the bans were a mistake. there was no reason to post what you said because all the info was already posted. Even the link to the thread was posted
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  • GhostWolf_ESO
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    xbobx15 wrote: »
    zoomorph wrote: »
    xbobx15 wrote: »
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    xbobx15 wrote: »
    are you going to apologize to everyone when it is proven these were in error?

    Nope. I'm sure that those who were wrongfully accused will return after ZOS investigation is complete. They would at most have lost a few gaming days. This is, in my opinion, a small price to pay to get rid of the cheaters.

    well you are calling people cheaters when they are not, which deserves an apology. So man up.

    For what? as i said, people that are not cheating is getting unbanned. There are cheaters in this game, and they should get kicked. And i'm not sorry at all if they are.

    you basically implied that all the people being banned were cheaters.

    i can think of a way he could apologize to us and it involves hot wax,whips and chains
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  • Troodon80
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    Regal_Imp wrote: »
    I have been un-muted and un-banned! but honestly this isn't over for me.

    People make mistakes, and software can have bugs that may ban people, but this is ridiculous, at the very least admit that you made a mistake. Explain how this happened, why did I get censored after I made a forum post about it?

    This was obviously ZOS' fault and they're gonna pretend this never happened.
    I also got unbanned, but, likewise, this isn't over for me.

    This didn't just inconvenience me, it affected an entire raid guild. I get to feel like garbage for missing a raid and letting down 11 other people and 1 other who had to come as a sub. Considering the nature of the initial false ban, I'm not logging back in until some official word on this comes out. I don't care about how their anti-cheat system works, I don't cheat or exploit and have been very vocal in any raiding guild I've been in that I won't do exploits (I skipped various exploits such as no deaths in dungeons until they were fixed; wouldn't do vAS+2 when Felms wouldn't jump properly; etc., etc.). I don't need or want an in-depth analyses on their cheat prevention measures. I want an assurance that this won't happen again, or something I can do so as not to be falsely banned again (other than some random unhelpful post saying "don't cheat").
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    Regal_Imp wrote: »
    I have been un-muted and un-banned! but honestly this isn't over for me.

    People make mistakes, and software can have bugs that may ban people, but this is ridiculous, at the very least admit that you made a mistake. Explain how this happened, why did I get censored after I made a forum post about it?

    This was obviously ZOS' fault and they're gonna pretend this never happened.


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    That aside, so glad you are back. I was sick for my friend honestly over it. She has dozens of homes, all decorated painstakingly to the hilt, to lose that would have been devastating. I don’t know if she’s unbanned yet but I hope these all go away. And for whatever it’s worth, thanks to the mods for not killing -this- thread and anyone who came here to attack “cheaters” may want to take a breath next time. A little empathy goes a long way... so does reading...
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