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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

ZOS sends out teaser for next chapter, please help decipher!

  • Sotha_Sil
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    I think the chapter will be related to Winterhold and Whiteshore. Nord stands on Whiteshore and looks into the mountains of Winterhold.The snowiest place is Winterhold.
    To everything else, ZOS will add the long-awaited creation of spells.
    So, according to the signs, Whiterun will also participate in the story.
    And ZOS will change the DLC release policy.
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    I agree there is a strong possibility that Winterhold and Wintershore are included in next DLCs. However, I don't see how this gives us proof of spell crafting making a return. Same for the DLC release policy, I doubt ZOS will change what seems to be working well for them these days : dungeon + zone + dungeons+ small zone

    They can easily make 2 chapters out of Skyrim with the first one being about winterhold/whitershore. And the second one with markath as big zone and solitude small zone. I doubt whiterun will get a chapter as it is in vast plain where ZOS could hardly put mountains to end the zone.
    Edited by Sotha_Sil on December 20, 2019 8:55PM
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  • XomRhoK
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    I think the chapter will be related to Winterhold and Whiteshore. Nord stands on Whiteshore and looks into the mountains of Winterhold.The snowiest place is Winterhold.
    To everything else, ZOS will add the long-awaited creation of spells.
    So, according to the signs, Whiterun will also participate in the story.
    And ZOS will change the DLC release policy.
    eso-elderscrollsonline-SotD-TGA-2019-Trailer-Screenshot-9.jpg
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    If green light on this screenshot is from the explosion at the end of the Elsweyr questline, then Nord look at south, so he can't stand on Whiteshore and look at mountains of Winterhold, unless ZOS messed up something.
  • dcam86b14_ESO
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    XomRhoK wrote: »
    I think the chapter will be related to Winterhold and Whiteshore. Nord stands on Whiteshore and looks into the mountains of Winterhold.The snowiest place is Winterhold.
    To everything else, ZOS will add the long-awaited creation of spells.
    So, according to the signs, Whiterun will also participate in the story.
    And ZOS will change the DLC release policy.
    eso-elderscrollsonline-SotD-TGA-2019-Trailer-Screenshot-9.jpg
    the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-gray-black-mountain-wallpaper.jpg
    skyrim-map-by-gamebanshee-lg.jpg
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    If green light on this screenshot is from the explosion at the end of the Elsweyr questline, then Nord look at south, so he can't stand on Whiteshore and look at mountains of Winterhold, unless ZOS messed up something.

    Agreed, it doesn't add up. The other prediction of dragon bridge area is more realistic.
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    The_Saint wrote: »
    The river bend looks also like the one in markarth at karthwasten

    The river at Markarth is what it reminded me of when I first saw it
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  • Urvoth
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    Eevee_42 wrote: »
    Unless they decipher this as performance improvements, then it doesn’t really matter.

    Join the other salt filled threads, let those of us not filled with anger enjoy this. thanks

    Yeah, because let’s just be hyped for another generic quest zone and no fixes for prolonged issues.
  • CiliPadi
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    Not spending money on it on release only to be heavily discounted 3 months later. I can wait.
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Looks like reach imagery for sure. That zone is so tightly spaced in tesV with a ton of vertical dimension. But there is a dragonguard sanctuary nearby as well as plenty of dwemer ruins. Maybe that grappling bow will be of use again😉

    I hope so i had so much fun with it
  • OtarTheMad
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    ixie wrote: »
    The_Saint wrote: »
    The river bend looks also like the one in markarth at karthwasten

    The river at Markarth is what it reminded me of when I first saw it

    The only problem with it being near Karthwasten is that the closest snowy mountain to the south (in order to get that pic) is too far away. I don't know. My odd guess is that the Nord is standing on a mountain near Helgen area and looking down and that's the White River but even that doesn't really fit. Cinematic's are hard. The closest I have seen is that other pic back from Skyrim on page 6, I am fairly sure that's Bleak Falls Barrow, river in the distance looks similar.
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    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    ixie wrote: »
    The_Saint wrote: »
    The river bend looks also like the one in markarth at karthwasten

    The river at Markarth is what it reminded me of when I first saw it

    The only problem with it being near Karthwasten is that the closest snowy mountain to the south (in order to get that pic) is too far away. I don't know. My odd guess is that the Nord is standing on a mountain near Helgen area and looking down and that's the White River but even that doesn't really fit. Cinematic's are hard. The closest I have seen is that other pic back from Skyrim on page 6, I am fairly sure that's Bleak Falls Barrow, river in the distance looks similar.

    I'm looking through to see which holds were actually around during the 2nd era.
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    Just read something on UESP that is interesting. I didn't realize the divide lasted so long:
    When High King Logrolf was assassinated in 2E 431, a schism formed between the east and west of Skyrim, creating two separate kingdoms that remained well into the Interregnum. However, Markarth was the outlier as it was an independent city-state of Reachmen, ruled by the infamous Despot of Markarth.

    Markarth and Skyrim was like this until Tiber Septim came around. Which means, if ZOS continues with lore, Skyrim is divided into different kingdoms.

    EDIT- For those unaware of lore:
    2E 431 — Skyrim splits into Eastern and Western kingdoms.
    After High King Logrolf is assassinated, Jarl Svartr of Solitude challenges the legitimacy of Logrolf's heir, Freydis, and a Moot is convened. Although Freydis is accepted by the Crown of Verity and named High Queen in Windhelm, a partial Moot held in Solitude declares Svartr to be High King. From then on, Skyrim is divided into an Eastern kingdom, ruled by the successors of Freydis, and a Western kingdom, ruled by the successors of Svartr
    Edited by OtarTheMad on December 21, 2019 2:23AM
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Huyen wrote: »
    Vanos444 wrote: »
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    Huyen wrote: »
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    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    The_Saint wrote: »
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    I got this today

    Wow, everyone is getting different things. This is pretty cool. Well the tree is a reach tree. But the things at the bottom look like Boomarangs, elven style. Only two elven races were really ever in Skyrim: Dwemer and Snow Elf. Hmmm.

    I'm pretty sure its Falinesti the missing Bosmer City.

    Bosmer don't live in Skyrim.
    Dwemer or Falmer ( aka snowelfs) and the latter seems to be more prominent with vampiric touch to it. My guess it's the Skyrim dawnguard dlc

    Falmer arent snowelfs. They are deranged Dwemer and Snowelfs alike who have been experimented on and enslaved.

    They were snow elf's.
    https://youtu.be/utnTBn8X41Y

    Exactly. Were snowelfs, but the inbreeding, experiments and whatnot made them Falmer, not Snowelfs.

    Actually falmer mean snow elf like dunmer mean dark elf as said by that snow elf in dawnguard
    He says that he doensnt like being called falmer anymore due to him being completly differant than the other savage one
    Edited by Dark_Lord_Kuro on December 21, 2019 2:49AM
  • DRTE
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    I'v had a few thoughts about this and i'll just add my 2 cents.

    My current theory's are leading me towards something to do with saarthal as it was once the capital of skyrim. It is also the settlement of the first atmoran to come to skyrim which is ysgramor.
    It could tie into something to do with falmer aka snow elfs which had a war with the atmoran people and destroyed saarthal. It could possibly have something to do with an awakening of a dragon priest or the dragon cult which then could also relate to hermaeus mora and the first dragon born miraak which was his champion.
    The dark heart of skyrim could mean blackreach which also ties in with that area's local and the temple of Mzark. and lastly dark magic might have something to do with the eye of magnus since it has always been under saarthal and a possible reason why falmer had a war with atmoran people.

    Just some food for thought.
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  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    I think the chapter will be related to Winterhold and Whiteshore. Nord stands on Whiteshore and looks into the mountains of Winterhold.The snowiest place is Winterhold.
    To everything else, ZOS will add the long-awaited creation of spells.
    So, according to the signs, Whiterun will also participate in the story.
    And ZOS will change the DLC release policy.
    eso-elderscrollsonline-SotD-TGA-2019-Trailer-Screenshot-9.jpg
    the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-gray-black-mountain-wallpaper.jpg
    skyrim-map-by-gamebanshee-lg.jpg
    skyrim-map-by-mottis86-lg.jpg

    Also in the trailer the screen show the south direction toward the green light of the explosion
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    XomRhoK wrote: »
    If green light on this screenshot is from the explosion at the end of the Elsweyr questline, then Nord look at south, so he can't stand on Whiteshore and look at mountains of Winterhold, unless ZOS messed up something.

    Everyone's reading too much into what is just supposed to be a cool looking cinematic shot. Neither the ESO or TESV shots correspond to a real place in either game.

    I'm also not sure where "Whiteshore" is coming from. The Dawnstar hold is called The Pale.
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    I'm also not sure where "Whiteshore" is coming from. The Dawnstar hold is called The Pale.

    It does say Whiteshore on the map ;) #nitpicky

    But you are right.

    But as long as we are reading stuff into the trailer, I think it is only the first animation that is 3D. The cinematic shot is parallax scrolled 2D, and the rivers do look samey (of course this could be simply due to them just reusing assets from Skyrim assuming that´s a thing, or similar). It´s a bit interesting to see the lightning flash at the far end of the shot though.

    It could be just normal lightning, or... something more :p
    Edited by MaleAmazon on December 21, 2019 6:39AM
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    Looks like Winterhold to me.
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    remember that skyrim quest for vampire lord? we will be the bad guys who seal that sexy vampire with an elder scroll.
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    remember that skyrim quest for vampire lord? we will be the bad guys who seal that sexy vampire with an elder scroll.

    She's already entombed by the time of ESO.
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  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    remember that skyrim quest for vampire lord? we will be the bad guys who seal that sexy vampire with an elder scroll.

    She is already in her coffin by this time for a few reason

    1. Serena is surprise there is a human empire in cyrodill
    2. The dragon that guard the mother of serena in the soulcairn does so since the dragon ruled the sky of tamriel and were fighting for teritory

    We do have dragon but they arent fighting for territoy nor do they rule the sky right now and anybody at the time of eso know there is an empire in cyrodill or at least know there was one before be it the first empire, the second or the smaller emperor of the interegnum
  • Mr_Arce88
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    I just hope it won't be vampires. I can't stand any more vamp related content :( Reachman are fine, falmer are hmmm - blackreach would be subterrain zone? Seems like people that received maps should make a high res scans of them as quality is rough is most of them.
  • tplink3r1
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    Just a shot in the dark here with regards to Falmer:
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    falmer kinda look like feral vampires anyhow
    The Feral Falmers serving the snow elf Vyrthur (a vampire) have vampiric features, and some even have wings that look like the ones from vampire lords.
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  • YandereGirlfriend
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    I am unnerved by the amount of "Reachman Thirst" in this thread and definitely hope that the expansion has little to do with them as a primary faction.

    For one, they are already way over-represented in the game, and secondly, we already know who and what they are: primitive, Daedra-worshiping thugs, no better than re-skinned bandits or human versions of Falmer.

    It would also be a tremendous shame to waste Skyrim's expansion on tertiary groups such as the Reachmen or a Dawnguard reprise (or, even worse, Fallinesti!).

    That said though, I am LOVING the Mannimarco x Galerion possibility and, apart from my own interest, believe that the "Lichdom" angle (e.g. the prominent urn/phylactery, Daedric script, undead themes to art and writings) best suits that premise (as Mannimarco is nothing if not the consumate lich).

    It's also an evil rising to the gravity of a Chapter expansion plot in a way that Vampires or savage Bretons simply do not.
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    Just a shot in the dark here with regards to Falmer:
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    Funny thing is they look like vampires too lmao
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  • richo262
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    The ESO map is wrong.

    Windhelm should be further South. Winterhold should be where Windhelm presently is.

    If you look at the Tamriel map, Eastmarch is encroaching on Morrowind territory with the final quest hub. Windhelm should be just West of that location.

    Are ZOS going to fix this and shrink Eastmarch a bit? Or are they going to double down on this and place Winterhold in a location that Dawnstar should be?

    Alternatively, they could just move Solthsteim up and add bit of a land mass above Eastmarch to place Winterhold on.
    Edited by richo262 on December 22, 2019 1:57AM
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    Wow seven pages and no meme. Good job y’all.
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  • Gnortranermara
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    richo262 wrote: »
    The ESO map is wrong.

    They might change it. They've changed the map before on multiple occasions. But they don't have to. It's also perfectly reasonable to place Winterhold a bit further west and explain it as geological change over time. That's not much of a stretch in a game with a history of ecological disasters (not to mention magic and other celestial forces that can change the landscape), including at Winterhold itself.
    Edited by Gnortranermara on December 22, 2019 2:23AM
  • Noxavian
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    Mr_Arce88 wrote: »
    I just hope it won't be vampires. I can't stand any more vamp related content :( Reachman are fine, falmer are hmmm - blackreach would be subterrain zone? Seems like people that received maps should make a high res scans of them as quality is rough is most of them.

    Anymore vamp related content? LOL what do you mean? Vamps out of anything in ES lore aside from Falmer have very little representation in ESO.

    A vampire chapter will happen eventually.
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    I think the translation of 'mortal' may be 'Morthal'.
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