ZOS sends out teaser for next chapter, please help decipher!

MerguezMan

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

My lore understanding is not the best, but afaik Dwemer do not exist. Kagrenac wiped them completely, even the ghosts of fallen Dwemer are gone. So there will no ashes be left.

Inaccurate.

Kagrenac used the heart of Lorkhan in Red mountain, as a desperate attempt to end the war.
It is unclear whether this was supposed to improve the Dwemers power, or to send them into a superior level of existence.
The Dwemer all disappeared from Nirn, as a result of their species mind-connection, but nobody has seen them die.

There are theories in the way Dwemers would have reached another plane, as pure spirits, burning their bodies in the process.

And I'm quite sure Dwemer places are dusty. How could you differenciate dust and ashes after decades in their vaults ?

[Edit] https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dwemer

"When the previously untouched Dwemer ruins of Bamz-Amschend in Mournhold were rediscovered, numerous piles of ashes were present next to weapons and armor, on chairs, and in beds, suggesting the Dwemer's bodies were suddenly reduced to ash in some way."

vestahls

MerguezMan wrote: »

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

My lore understanding is not the best, but afaik Dwemer do not exist. Kagrenac wiped them completely, even the ghosts of fallen Dwemer are gone. So there will no ashes be left.

Inaccurate.

Kagrenac used the heart of Lorkhan in Red mountain, as a desperate attempt to end the war.
It is unclear whether this was supposed to improve the Dwemers power, or to send them into a superior level of existence.
The Dwemer all disappeared from Nirn, as a result of their species mind-connection, but nobody has seen them die.

There are theories in the way Dwemers would have reached another plane, as pure spirits, burning their bodies in the process.

And I'm quite sure Dwemer places are dusty. How could you differenciate dust and ashes after decades in their vaults ?

Also, there are Dwemer ghosts in TESIII Morrowind, still guarding Dwemer ruins, even though they don't appear in any of the other games.

And let's not forget that Yagrum is still around, and he wouldn't have corprus because corprus doesn't exist yet

MerguezMan

Also this doesn't really make sense:

Deep Down where Oaherovas Weep
Deep down where Oakeroots Weep

New version:

Deep down where hope was reave
Deep down hero reawoke to weeps

?

Chaos2088

My money is on the Chapter being The Pale and Blackreach, both DLC dungeon pack relating to this and then the Final DLC being Winterhold.

Casterial

How has no one said the Horde finally are invading Tamriel?! Lok'tar Ogar!

wakeyjimb16_ESO

Probably not significant at all but the Twitch reward for the reveal stream is a Bat pet. So.... Vampires? Just a musing.

OtarTheMad

Chaos2088 wrote: »

My money is on the Chapter being The Pale and Blackreach, both DLC dungeon pack relating to this and then the Final DLC being Winterhold.

This is what I am thinking now too. Originally it was Whiterun but now idk about that.

About the Dwemer somehow being involved, I mean in theory it could work but I think lore people (including myself) would hate it. Only the Dwemer that were alive vanished, as we know by TES 3: Morrowind. You could have a dead and very powerful/feared Dwemer mage resurrected but I'd rather not. Only way I'd want Dwemer in this game is if we travel to the past via spinner or something.

Also, like I mentioned previously, if we don't run into Falmer I'll be mad. Just because they are in hiding atm doesn't mean we wouldn't run into them when we travel in Dwemer ruins, especially if we go to Blackreach. Maybe they won't be as deformed as they were in Skyrim since it's only the second era, that'd be cool.

SilverIce58

wakeyjimb16_ESO wrote: »

Probably not significant at all but the Twitch reward for the reveal stream is a Bat pet. So.... Vampires? Just a musing.

That's actually pretty suspicious tbh. Maybe it's a hint?

Ravena

Y'know what we need? New combat music.

They always come out with new ambient music, but the battle ones remain the same.

Inval1d

SilverIce58 wrote: »

wakeyjimb16_ESO wrote: »

Probably not significant at all but the Twitch reward for the reveal stream is a Bat pet. So.... Vampires? Just a musing.

That's actually pretty suspicious tbh. Maybe it's a hint?

Well, bats live in dark places... and Blackreach is a dark place. (¿)

Noxavian

Inval1d wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

wakeyjimb16_ESO wrote: »

Probably not significant at all but the Twitch reward for the reveal stream is a Bat pet. So.... Vampires? Just a musing.

That's actually pretty suspicious tbh. Maybe it's a hint?

Well, bats live in dark places... and Blackreach is a dark place. (¿)

Okay but like, if it had something to do with the cave theme aka Blackreach, why are the bats in the picture flying around a city at night? Would it not of made more sense to have them in a cave if it's referencing blackreach?

aleksandr_ESO

- ESO: Greymoor
- new gothic saga about vampire lord
- Western Skyrim
- new Antiquities System (?)

Elsonso

Folks, ya gotta hurry if you want to figure this out! In 36 hours, all speculation will come to an end!

Seraphayel

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

- ESO: Greymoor
- new gothic saga about vampire lord
- Western Skyrim
- new Antiquities System (?)

What is this, a leak or just your personal prediction?

Thevampirenight

MerguezMan wrote: »

Also this doesn't really make sense:

Deep Down where Oaherovas Weep
Deep down where Oakeroots Weep

New version:

Deep down where hope was reave
Deep down hero reawoke to weeps

?

reave means carry out raids in order to plunder.
rob (a person or place) of something by force.


This is what the dwemer did to the Snow Elves they robbed them of their hope and of their sight.
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Seraphayel wrote: »

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

- ESO: Greymoor
- new gothic saga about vampire lord
- Western Skyrim
- new Antiquities System (?)

What is this, a leak or just your personal prediction?

I think it might be his personal prediction.
Greymoor is fort in Skyrim
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Fort_Greymoor

MerguezMan

Thevampirenight wrote: »

MerguezMan wrote: »

Also this doesn't really make sense:

Deep Down where Oaherovas Weep
Deep down where Oakeroots Weep

New version:

Deep down where hope was reave
Deep down hero reawoke to weeps

?

reave means carry out raids in order to plunder.
rob (a person or place) of something by force.


This is what the dwemer did to the Snow Elves they robbed them of their hope and of their sight.

I'm not a native english speaker, so expected you guys to confirm that version made sense.
Guess its a "yes", thanks.

aleksandr_ESO

- ESO: Greymoor
- new gothic saga about vampire lord
- Western Skyrim
- new Antiquities System (?)

Seraphayel wrote: »

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

- ESO: Greymoor
- new gothic saga about vampire lord
- Western Skyrim
- new Antiquities System (?)

What is this, a leak or just your personal prediction?

my personal datamining

Elsonso

Greymoor? I am fairly sure that the chapter will be Elder Scrolls Online: Skyrim

That follows the previous three chapters.

Xvorg

Elsonso wrote: »

Greymoor? I am fairly sure that the chapter will be Elder Scrolls Online: Skyrim

That follows the previous three chapters.

I think it will be Dawnguard

Thevampirenight

Xvorg wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

Greymoor? I am fairly sure that the chapter will be Elder Scrolls Online: Skyrim

That follows the previous three chapters.

I think it will be Dawnguard

Well if they do Fort Dawnguard given we already have the rift in the game. I think it will be more or less a Dungeon if anything. We do now the group was disbanded as well as the possibility of them becoming vampires themselves. That later Terrorized the Rift. So if its added maybe its to destroy it because of some threat it poses.
If it is added a location I believe it will be would be in the form of a Dlc dungeon.

AlienatedGoat

Elsonso wrote: »

Greymoor? I am fairly sure that the chapter will be Elder Scrolls Online: Skyrim

That follows the previous three chapters.

Agreed. Skyrim "nostalgia" is some low hanging fruit.

LaerothKeykalyn

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

- ESO: Greymoor
- new gothic saga about vampire lord
- Western Skyrim
- new Antiquities System (?)

You have pictures or more information?

Seraphayel

Well... I copy my post from the other thread:

Seraphayel wrote: »

Okay, funny enough, the new Chapter might be titled Greymoor as a guy suggested yesterday. @aleksandr_ESO

Post from yesterday:

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

- ESO: Greymoor
- new gothic saga about vampire lord
- Western Skyrim
- new Antiquities System (?)

Source: https://elderscrolls.net/

MerguezMan

Assuming the black symbol is Fort Greymoor ...
The red symbols would point tombs, cairns and bandit camps.

[Edit2] Red symbols would point corpses source for raising a necromancer army ?
Then this is no treasure map, it's an attack plan.[/Edit2]

[Edit] Ahah ! Pure speculation below:

Like All Urns its Bears the dead - Death is naught but a Fitful Sleep.
Ashes Remain Death to Mortal Tongues.
Death For the Living and Life for the Dead.
Let let let let let in the world
Led from Boughs both Gnarled and Black may they reap a great harvest of terror
Deep Down where Nirn(crimson)roots Weep
Deep down where hope was reave
Deep down hero reawoke to weeps

- the urn contains a Flamer vampire: Vyrthur
- the vampire seeks revenge on Alkosh/Akatosh, and a way to cut out sunlight
- this would unleash falmers living in Blackreach on Skyrim upper land, and vampires

Q1 Dungeons =
- attack of daedric followers against Fort Greymoor (urn seeking)
- exploration of Blackreach found temple (urn key)

Q2 Chapter =
- fight falmer/vampire invasion of Skyrim ("great harvest of terror")
- explore more Blackreach ("deep down")

Q3 Dungeons =
- find Forgotten Vale, where you meet Knight Gelebor and ask Auri-El's bow

Skyrim dialogue wrote:

They request Auriel's Bow, and I request their assistance. It's been repeated so many times, I can't imagine it any other way.

Q4 DLC zone =
- more Skyrim, "end the fight"
- use Auri-El's bow to make the sun return, and stop falmer/vampire

bennett.zuritaub17_ESO

It has to do with powerful spell books, tomes. At dragonsreach in whiterun the Jarl is accompanied by Farengar Secret-Fire, a court wizard, who suggest visit the college of winterhold.

"wears the velt"

This is what I read when I decrypted the depictions. I predict we will get a something new from the college of winterhold in the next chapter.

MerguezMan

Even more speculation:

We will get the help of Peyirite at some point (probably because "it's always night-time" doesn't match with "natural order of things").
And we get a Peyirite cult skill line, where you "buff" yourself by getting infected with weird diseases.

Why ?

We met the Peyirite cult leader in the main quest of Summerset, and then see him back in Elsweyr - Orcrest public dungeon quest.
I doubt this is just "returning funny character", to me its more a kind of teasing.
And a big furniture version of the daedra is on sale in crown store.

Thevampirenight

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

- ESO: Greymoor
- new gothic saga about vampire lord
- Western Skyrim
- new Antiquities System (?)

Seraphayel wrote: »

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

- ESO: Greymoor
- new gothic saga about vampire lord
- Western Skyrim
- new Antiquities System (?)

What is this, a leak or just your personal prediction?

my personal datamining

You were right on the ball this time. I wasn't sure what it was going to be but now I'm very happy with what I heard.

Seraphayel

Yeah, @aleksandr_ESO fooled us, it was his datamine, but it was the actual datamine as well.

PrimusNephilim

I_am_Groot wrote: »

......and one more thing, Lyris Titanborn will be back as Sai Sahan writes "This journal was entrusted to me by an old friend"
~Cheers

Well, I'm happy to see Lyris is back in action but I still believe we haven't seen the last of Abnur Tharn either...2021?

ixie

I_am_Groot wrote: »

Well, I'm happy to see Lyris is back in action but I still believe we haven't seen the last of Abnur Tharn either...2021?

Same here, I think Abnur Tharn was saved by Meridia