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DO Sorcs even HAVE a class rep?

  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    What a mess this is. No wonder why we have this patch.
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  • Darkenarlol
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    what nerfs?
    my shields are bigger and dps is higher
    btw entropy is best mag ST dot so you gonna slot it anyway
    critical surge heals for bigger numbers so it is a buff again
    That's because you can't read. Well, maybe read, but not comprehend.

    The cap on the shields got increased from 50% to 60% which you read as "my shields are bigger" which of course they are not since the vast majority of MagSorcs that rely on those shields will never even get close to hitting that cap.

    After your comment, i can only assume you don't actually play a MagSorc ...
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    lol... just lol

    maybe you can read...maybe even comprehend

    when i say my shields become bigger that is exactly what i mean

    but looks like you have no imagination outside of copy paste builds...

    or i can only assume so :D
  • starkerealm
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Nefas wrote: »
    All the money spent on Mages Guild skill-lines comes to me why would I raise an objection? :wink: /s

    Here is the updated list of class reps found under the Combat sub forum @Alienoutlaw

    Alcast
    Masel
    GandTheImpaler
    Quantum
    FearTurbo
    RebornZombie
    Glorious
    Cab_Life
    Glorious

    Some great people are not class rep anymore

    Kinda says a lot of the program

    Yeah, that the class rep program is a 20h a week job, without pay.

    Their job is to filter through community feedback and pass that back to ZOS. They're not the ones calling the shots, that's Brian's and Rich's jobs. Their job is to pass feedback to ZOS, and the community throws a ****ing tantrum every time it doesn't get its way. Yeah, I can't imagine why there's been brutal attrition in the program.
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  • Alienoutlaw
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    @Alcast where has our clas rep been?
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Nefas wrote: »
    All the money spent on Mages Guild skill-lines comes to me why would I raise an objection? :wink: /s

    Here is the updated list of class reps found under the Combat sub forum @Alienoutlaw

    Alcast
    Masel
    GandTheImpaler
    Quantum
    FearTurbo
    RebornZombie
    Glorious
    Cab_Life
    Glorious

    Some great people are not class rep anymore

    Kinda says a lot of the program

    Yeah, that the class rep program is a 20h a week job, without pay.

    Their job is to filter through community feedback and pass that back to ZOS. They're not the ones calling the shots, that's Brian's and Rich's jobs. Their job is to pass feedback to ZOS, and the community throws a ****ing tantrum every time it doesn't get its way. Yeah, I can't imagine why there's been brutal attrition in the program.

    as i said NO posts in class rep thread from ANYONE since 2018 doing a great job NOT
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Vicinia wrote: »
    I typically don't stand up for the class reps, but seriously man. One of them even leaked patch notes because they felt they weren't being heard. That's how unhappy they were. It wasn't smart at all, but that should set the tone for the relationship between the devs and reps.

    You're acting like the class reps have any power lol. You're looking for someone to blame, they aren't the ones. They can say whatever they like to the devs (which they have) and it always falls on deaf ears.

    Take up the nerfs with ZOS. The class reps are just the scapegoats.

    they havnt said ANYTHING and thats my point
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    @Alcast where has our clas rep been?

    He only comes on the forums to have a good laugh. No one can take most of the forums seriously when it comes to balance or solutions because players always have hidden agendas.

    he is a class rep he may find it funny behind his twitch stream and yuotube fame some of us actually believed the BS about class reps and the fact they spoke for us HE has proven that its ALL a SHAM
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    @Alcast where has our clas rep been?

    He only comes on the forums to have a good laugh. No one can take most of the forums seriously when it comes to balance or solutions because players always have hidden agendas.

    he is a class rep he may find it funny behind his twitch stream and yuotube fame some of us actually believed the BS about class reps and the fact they spoke for us HE has proven that its ALL a SHAM

    They do relay your feedback, but that doesn't make them your personal megaphone. If you thought the entire point of the class rep program was to pass leadership for game development over to the forums, I want you to look at @Knowledge's threads very closely, and see if you can grasp why that would be a catastrophically bad idea.

    thats not my point, the point is NOBODY from the class rep team has posted on the Sorc thread since Nov 2018 how the F is that in anyway being in "touch" with the community they are ment to represent???????????????
  • Alienoutlaw
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    as i said i publicly call him out to answer why or step down and let someone who will take over
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    @Alcast where has our clas rep been?

    He only comes on the forums to have a good laugh. No one can take most of the forums seriously when it comes to balance or solutions because players always have hidden agendas.

    he is a class rep he may find it funny behind his twitch stream and yuotube fame some of us actually believed the BS about class reps and the fact they spoke for us HE has proven that its ALL a SHAM

    They do relay your feedback, but that doesn't make them your personal megaphone. If you thought the entire point of the class rep program was to pass leadership for game development over to the forums, I want you to look at @Knowledge's threads very closely, and see if you can grasp why that would be a catastrophically bad idea.

    thats not my point, the point is NOBODY from the class rep team has posted on the Sorc thread since Nov 2018 how the F is that in anyway being in "touch" with the community they are ment to represent???????????????

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that every time a class rep popped up on the boards and asked for feedback, it turned into twenty different tantrums all competing with each other to see who can cry the loudest.

    you joking right? so no class rep convo for sorcs since before NOV 2018 is justified by that comment?? you dreaming dude and so is everyone that follows blindly behind this guy, he cares more about is youtube channel than he does about this forum or the ppl in it so long as ZOS think he is cool and he tows the party line all good huh? bleet bleet little sheep..........jog on

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    Edited by Alienoutlaw on August 13, 2019 11:35PM
  • Vicinia
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    @Alcast where has our clas rep been?

    He only comes on the forums to have a good laugh. No one can take most of the forums seriously when it comes to balance or solutions because players always have hidden agendas.

    he is a class rep he may find it funny behind his twitch stream and yuotube fame some of us actually believed the BS about class reps and the fact they spoke for us HE has proven that its ALL a SHAM

    They do relay your feedback, but that doesn't make them your personal megaphone. If you thought the entire point of the class rep program was to pass leadership for game development over to the forums, I want you to look at @Knowledge's threads very closely, and see if you can grasp why that would be a catastrophically bad idea.

    thats not my point, the point is NOBODY from the class rep team has posted on the Sorc thread since Nov 2018 how the F is that in anyway being in "touch" with the community they are ment to represent???????????????

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that every time a class rep popped up on the boards and asked for feedback, it turned into twenty different tantrums all competing with each other to see who can cry the loudest.

    you joking right? so no class rep convo for sorcs since before NOV 2018 is justified by that comment?? you dreaming dude and so is everyone that follows blindly behind this guy, he cares more about is youtube channel than he does about this forum or the ppl in it so long as ZOS think he is col and he tows the party line all good huh? bleet bleet little sheep..........jog on

    I don't care for alcast's content or builds one bit. But I'm going to call a spade a spade. Your class got nerfed, you want to direct your temper tantrum towards someone.

    Doesn't matter if he steps down, and /or replaced. Hell maybe you should have tried to be a class rep. Maybe then the obvious would hit you in the face. They are the illusion of communication between the devs and players. There is none, ZOS does whatever they please, and people like you actually think class reps have any pull.

    All they do is relay information to the developers that they observe from the playerbase. Quite frankly I don't know why they bother. They don't get paid for it, they aren't listened to and they have grown individuals crying at them.

  • Svenja
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    Sorcs don't have a specific class rep.
    Neither do Templars, Wardens, Necros or DK. And no, not even Nightblades.
    They are not representing a specific class, how do people not understand that?
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  • Alienoutlaw
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    Svenja wrote: »
    Sorcs don't have a specific class rep.
    Neither do Templars, Wardens, Necros or DK. And no, not even Nightblades.
    They are not representing a specific class, how do people not understand that?

    maybe not but the threads flagged as "class rep NB or class rep Warden ect ect" are Always Active the thread flagged Sorc class rep not a SINGLE person with "class rep" rank has posted ANYTHING since before NOV 2018
  • SFDB
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    @Alcast where has our clas rep been?

    He only comes on the forums to have a good laugh. No one can take most of the forums seriously when it comes to balance or solutions because players always have hidden agendas.

    he is a class rep he may find it funny behind his twitch stream and yuotube fame some of us actually believed the BS about class reps and the fact they spoke for us HE has proven that its ALL a SHAM

    They do relay your feedback, but that doesn't make them your personal megaphone. If you thought the entire point of the class rep program was to pass leadership for game development over to the forums, I want you to look at @Knowledge's threads very closely, and see if you can grasp why that would be a catastrophically bad idea.

    thats not my point, the point is NOBODY from the class rep team has posted on the Sorc thread since Nov 2018 how the F is that in anyway being in "touch" with the community they are ment to represent???????????????

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that every time a class rep popped up on the boards and asked for feedback, it turned into twenty different tantrums all competing with each other to see who can cry the loudest.

    you joking right? so no class rep convo for sorcs since before NOV 2018+ his justified by that comment?? you dreaming dude and so is everyone that follows blindly behind this guy, he cares more about is youtube channel than he does about this forum or the ppl in it so long as ZOS think he is cool and he tows the party line all good huh? bleet bleet little sheep..........jog on

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    Dude, I've been behind you this entire fiasco, and I'm unhappy enough that I canceled and let ZoS know my displeasure, but this isn't cool man. Even if Alcast were somehow to blame (and I don't see that he is anything but unhappy with what's happened) this doesn't help us convince people we're right, it convinces them we're unreasonable. I want change as much as you do, but this isn't the way to get it.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    SFDB wrote: »
    Kadoin wrote: »
    @Alcast where has our clas rep been?

    He only comes on the forums to have a good laugh. No one can take most of the forums seriously when it comes to balance or solutions because players always have hidden agendas.

    he is a class rep he may find it funny behind his twitch stream and yuotube fame some of us actually believed the BS about class reps and the fact they spoke for us HE has proven that its ALL a SHAM

    They do relay your feedback, but that doesn't make them your personal megaphone. If you thought the entire point of the class rep program was to pass leadership for game development over to the forums, I want you to look at @Knowledge's threads very closely, and see if you can grasp why that would be a catastrophically bad idea.

    thats not my point, the point is NOBODY from the class rep team has posted on the Sorc thread since Nov 2018 how the F is that in anyway being in "touch" with the community they are ment to represent???????????????

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that every time a class rep popped up on the boards and asked for feedback, it turned into twenty different tantrums all competing with each other to see who can cry the loudest.

    you joking right? so no class rep convo for sorcs since before NOV 2018+ his justified by that comment?? you dreaming dude and so is everyone that follows blindly behind this guy, he cares more about is youtube channel than he does about this forum or the ppl in it so long as ZOS think he is cool and he tows the party line all good huh? bleet bleet little sheep..........jog on

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    Dude, I've been behind you this entire fiasco, and I'm unhappy enough that I canceled and let ZoS know my displeasure, but this isn't cool man. Even if Alcast were somehow to blame (and I don't see that he is anything but unhappy with what's happened) this doesn't help us convince people we're right, it convinces them we're unreasonable. I want change as much as you do, but this isn't the way to get it.

    not blaming Alcast, personally was told earlier in this thread he was our class rep, i just want to know why we have had no interaction from ANY class rep for almost a year, i just want someone to answer that simple question
  • Alienoutlaw
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    and if he is our class rep it doesnt help his 1st priority was to post the skill line for sale in the crown store and promote his youtube channel..................you see my point?
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Vicinia wrote: »
    Kadoin wrote: »
    @Alcast where has our clas rep been?

    He only comes on the forums to have a good laugh. No one can take most of the forums seriously when it comes to balance or solutions because players always have hidden agendas.

    he is a class rep he may find it funny behind his twitch stream and yuotube fame some of us actually believed the BS about class reps and the fact they spoke for us HE has proven that its ALL a SHAM

    They do relay your feedback, but that doesn't make them your personal megaphone. If you thought the entire point of the class rep program was to pass leadership for game development over to the forums, I want you to look at @Knowledge's threads very closely, and see if you can grasp why that would be a catastrophically bad idea.

    thats not my point, the point is NOBODY from the class rep team has posted on the Sorc thread since Nov 2018 how the F is that in anyway being in "touch" with the community they are ment to represent???????????????

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that every time a class rep popped up on the boards and asked for feedback, it turned into twenty different tantrums all competing with each other to see who can cry the loudest.

    you joking right? so no class rep convo for sorcs since before NOV 2018 is justified by that comment?? you dreaming dude and so is everyone that follows blindly behind this guy, he cares more about is youtube channel than he does about this forum or the ppl in it so long as ZOS think he is col and he tows the party line all good huh? bleet bleet little sheep..........jog on

    I don't care for alcast's content or builds one bit. But I'm going to call a spade a spade. Your class got nerfed, you want to direct your temper tantrum towards someone.

    Doesn't matter if he steps down, and /or replaced. Hell maybe you should have tried to be a class rep. Maybe then the obvious would hit you in the face. They are the illusion of communication between the devs and players. There is none, ZOS does whatever they please, and people like you actually think class reps have any pull.

    All they do is relay information to the developers that they observe from the playerbase. Quite frankly I don't know why they bother. They don't get paid for it, they aren't listened to and they have grown individuals crying at them.

    my point is NO ONE has spoken to the src class since before NOV 2018 how many times do i have to repeat it? how can you relay somthing you do know anything about???
  • Vicinia
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    Vicinia wrote: »
    Kadoin wrote: »
    @Alcast where has our clas rep been?

    He only comes on the forums to have a good laugh. No one can take most of the forums seriously when it comes to balance or solutions because players always have hidden agendas.

    he is a class rep he may find it funny behind his twitch stream and yuotube fame some of us actually believed the BS about class reps and the fact they spoke for us HE has proven that its ALL a SHAM

    They do relay your feedback, but that doesn't make them your personal megaphone. If you thought the entire point of the class rep program was to pass leadership for game development over to the forums, I want you to look at @Knowledge's threads very closely, and see if you can grasp why that would be a catastrophically bad idea.

    thats not my point, the point is NOBODY from the class rep team has posted on the Sorc thread since Nov 2018 how the F is that in anyway being in "touch" with the community they are ment to represent???????????????

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that every time a class rep popped up on the boards and asked for feedback, it turned into twenty different tantrums all competing with each other to see who can cry the loudest.

    you joking right? so no class rep convo for sorcs since before NOV 2018 is justified by that comment?? you dreaming dude and so is everyone that follows blindly behind this guy, he cares more about is youtube channel than he does about this forum or the ppl in it so long as ZOS think he is col and he tows the party line all good huh? bleet bleet little sheep..........jog on

    I don't care for alcast's content or builds one bit. But I'm going to call a spade a spade. Your class got nerfed, you want to direct your temper tantrum towards someone.

    Doesn't matter if he steps down, and /or replaced. Hell maybe you should have tried to be a class rep. Maybe then the obvious would hit you in the face. They are the illusion of communication between the devs and players. There is none, ZOS does whatever they please, and people like you actually think class reps have any pull.

    All they do is relay information to the developers that they observe from the playerbase. Quite frankly I don't know why they bother. They don't get paid for it, they aren't listened to and they have grown individuals crying at them.

    my point is NO ONE has spoken to the src class since before NOV 2018 how many times do i have to repeat it? how can you relay somthing you do know anything about???

    Yes because reading doesn't exist. You think him telling you he can't do anything matters. You cannot be this dense 😂

    If you're a grown individual acting this way over a video game, you're beyond pathetic.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Vicinia wrote: »
    Vicinia wrote: »
    Kadoin wrote: »
    @Alcast where has our clas rep been?

    He only comes on the forums to have a good laugh. No one can take most of the forums seriously when it comes to balance or solutions because players always have hidden agendas.

    he is a class rep he may find it funny behind his twitch stream and yuotube fame some of us actually believed the BS about class reps and the fact they spoke for us HE has proven that its ALL a SHAM

    They do relay your feedback, but that doesn't make them your personal megaphone. If you thought the entire point of the class rep program was to pass leadership for game development over to the forums, I want you to look at @Knowledge's threads very closely, and see if you can grasp why that would be a catastrophically bad idea.

    thats not my point, the point is NOBODY from the class rep team has posted on the Sorc thread since Nov 2018 how the F is that in anyway being in "touch" with the community they are ment to represent???????????????

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that every time a class rep popped up on the boards and asked for feedback, it turned into twenty different tantrums all competing with each other to see who can cry the loudest.

    you joking right? so no class rep convo for sorcs since before NOV 2018 is justified by that comment?? you dreaming dude and so is everyone that follows blindly behind this guy, he cares more about is youtube channel than he does about this forum or the ppl in it so long as ZOS think he is col and he tows the party line all good huh? bleet bleet little sheep..........jog on

    I don't care for alcast's content or builds one bit. But I'm going to call a spade a spade. Your class got nerfed, you want to direct your temper tantrum towards someone.

    Doesn't matter if he steps down, and /or replaced. Hell maybe you should have tried to be a class rep. Maybe then the obvious would hit you in the face. They are the illusion of communication between the devs and players. There is none, ZOS does whatever they please, and people like you actually think class reps have any pull.

    All they do is relay information to the developers that they observe from the playerbase. Quite frankly I don't know why they bother. They don't get paid for it, they aren't listened to and they have grown individuals crying at them.

    my point is NO ONE has spoken to the src class since before NOV 2018 how many times do i have to repeat it? how can you relay somthing you do know anything about???

    Yes because reading doesn't exist. You think him telling you he can't do anything matters. You cannot be this dense 😂

    If you're a grown individual acting this way over a video game, you're beyond pathetic.

    and typing doesnt exist either? in over a year not one class rep learned to type in a class rep thread whilst all the other class threads where active???? sorry dude ya argument is mute, he can promote the crown store just fine, he can promote his youtube just fine but cant type in a class rep thread in over a year? who's pathetic now?
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