MagNB - What is our advantage to leverage?
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GhostofDatthaw✭✭✭✭✭I think he is taking post 1/2way out if context to make it seem like magnb is op0 -
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That was said about the other morph iirc, funnel health. Which is hot garbage in pvp since the change. Still sad about that. It used to be a unique tool to do damage and add a hot to the group
hmm, right. hasn´t there been someone who said swallow soul is a wasted slot?
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✭✭✭GhostofDatthaw wrote: »I think he is taking post 1/2way out if context to make it seem like magnb is op
Nah, he plays a magblade. Maybe because I always trash swallow soul but might need to add it.
I tried swallow soul recently and it wasn’t bad. Still testing is it’s the best for my build.
I’ll say one thing, I wouldn’t have said magNB is OP, but man now that I’ve started using harness magicka, dark cloak and keeping my merciless stacks my survivability skyrocketed. Shields alone are okay, shields backed up with high mitigation is amazing.Edited by Iskiab on June 30, 2019 3:56AMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
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GhostofDatthaw✭✭✭✭✭
Nah, he plays a magblade. Maybe because I always trash swallow soul but might need to add it.
I tried swallow soul recently and it wasn’t bad. Still testing is it’s the best for my build.
I’ll say one thing, I wouldn’t have said magNB is OP, but man now that I’ve started using harness magicka, dark cloak and keeping my merciless stacks my survivability skyrocketed. Shields alone are okay, shields backed up with high mitigation is amazing.
Ahh yeah ok. Swallow soul I funny, I love the skill. It's definitely they worst damage spammable magnb can use, but the utility from it is amazing, small hot, siphon skill for passives and using it for the ultimate gen passive1 -
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I don’t get it, what’s the point of the quote?
A frog with tea is a meme, stating:
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"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
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✭✭✭Feeling very good about my bars:
FB:
Swallow soul
Shadowy disguise
Lotus fan
Elemental drain*
Merciless resolve
ULT: Soul harvest**
BB:
Race against time
Healing ward
Mass hysteria
Shadow image
Siphoning attacks
ULT: Light's Champion
The three bolded skills together create a lethal mixture of debuffs on a target, making their life pretty miserable against me lol.
*I really want to use Debilitate but the animation is so clunky
**Played with the Silence aspect of Incap and it just isn't that valuable long term. However, Reave is good in conjunction with cost return poisons and Siphoning Attacks.Edited by brandonv516 on July 1, 2019 1:28PM0 -
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✭brandonv516 wrote: »Feeling very good about my bars:
FB:
Swallow soul
Shadowy disguise
Lotus fan
Elemental drain*
Merciless resolve
ULT: Soul harvest**
BB:
Race against time
Healing ward
Mass hysteria
Shadow image
Siphoning attacks
ULT: Light's Champion
The three bolded skills together create a lethal mixture of debuffs on a target, making their life pretty miserable against me lol.
*I really want to use Debilitate but the animation is so clunky
**Played with the Silence aspect of Incap and it just isn't that valuable long term. However, Reave is good in conjunction with cost return poisons and Siphoning Attacks.
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Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »
*I really want to use Debilitate but the animation is so clunky
Btw, what’s going on with debilitate and crippling grasp? I was trying it in pvp and it feels like it almost never roots or snares people.
At first I thought it was RAT spam, but now I’m thinking the root or snare doesn’t take if the person has a shield up? Has anyone figured out why it doesn’t seem to be working?Edited by Iskiab on July 1, 2019 2:16PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
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PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
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Btw, what’s going on with debilitate and crippling grasp? I was trying it in pvp and it feels like it almost never roots or snares people.
At first I thought it was RAT spam, but now I’m thinking the root or snare doesn’t take if the person has a shield up? Has anyone figured out why it doesn’t seem to be working?
I switched back to cripple recently and it seems to be working? Less uptime on the root obviously. Right after the patch it didn’t work at all.0 -
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Btw, what’s going on with debilitate and crippling grasp? I was trying it in pvp and it feels like it almost never roots or snares people.
At first I thought it was RAT spam, but now I’m thinking the root or snare doesn’t take if the person has a shield up? Has anyone figured out why it doesn’t seem to be working?
Does Debilitate even have a snare? If so I hadn't noticed it once.0 -
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✭brandonv516 wrote: »
Does Debilitate even have a snare? If so I hadn't noticed it once.
50% snare supposedly but I was spamming a Stam sorc RunVx build recently and it didn’t seem to do jack ***0 -
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50% snare supposedly but I was spamming a Stam sorc RunVx build recently and it didn’t seem to do jack ***
I notice it most against sorcs because they kite so much, that’s what made me think it’s a shield issue. The ability might just be broken though, it’s something that’s almost impossible to test solo.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
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GhostofDatthaw✭✭✭✭✭Ive noticed something strange with debilitate also, I run it for the magsteal. I also feel it NEVER snares, I thought it was just because everyone and thier brother has snare removal now, but now is test worthy1
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✭✭✭Sooo....
In case anyone cares, I settled on lotus fan for some added damage.
Since my priority is healing and support I think the minor vulnerability plus aoe dot has worked out the best. I’ll elemental ring with the BRP destro plus lotus fan to add two dots on opposing groups.
Won’t be able to kill anyone solo, but the added dot pressure softens people up for group mates.
Mass Hysteria - Merciless - impale - elemental ring - lotus fan - Ult: Soul Siphon
Healthy Offering - harness magicka - Combat Prayer - refreshing path - dark cloak - Ult: Soul Siphon
Trans+sanctuary+pirate+BRP destro on my damage bar... or I’ll switch it up if I get bored. Sanctuary is probably the best because it boosts team mates self healing, but sometimes I’ll change to swift so I can epeen my healing numbers. It’s hard to break 1 million healing using sanc because team mates heal themselves so much.Edited by Iskiab on July 2, 2019 9:46PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
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PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
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Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sooo....
In case anyone cares, I settled on lotus fan for some added damage.
Since my priority is healing and support I think the minor vulnerability plus aoe dot has worked out the best. I’ll elemental ring with the BRP destro plus lotus fan to add two dots on opposing groups.
Won’t be able to kill anyone solo, but the added dot pressure softens people up for group mates.
Mass Hysteria - Merciless - impale - elemental ring - lotus fan - Ult: Soul Siphon
Healthy Offering - harness magicka - Combat Prayer - refreshing path - dark cloak - Ult: Soul Siphon
Trans+sanctuary+pirate+BRP destro on my damage bar... or I’ll switch it up if I get bored. Sanctuary is probably the best because it boosts team mates self healing, but sometimes I’ll change to swift so I can epeen my healing numbers. It’s hard to break 1 million healing using sanc because team mates heal themselves so much.
Would be nice if lotus debuffed everyone hit instead of just the main target tho.1 -
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Would be nice if lotus debuffed everyone hit instead of just the main target tho.
Yea, it would. I mostly use it on people trying to kite or counter pushes.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
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Miriel✭✭✭✭DomiNate4NB wrote: »I'm trying to understand what our differentiating advantage is over other classes. What works best? Destro/resto, 2h/resto, melee destro/resto? Trying all different combos and none seem to be enough. Primarily damage focused in a tank meta. Reaping all that I sow these days. Thoughts ?
Iwe gone full healing on my mag-NB, i am speed, stealth, lots of health, fairly tanky, and a amcing magica regen to just flood the battlefiel with heals, and even when you run out of magica, you can bomb the battlefield with heals that drain your health... all this while moving under rat and stealth, in speeds some ride...
i dont even have a light or heavy attack, since that is traded for a light and heavy attack that i attack my friends, that heal them and give them major ward and major resolve...0 -
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✭Sooo....
In case anyone cares, I settled on lotus fan for some added damage.
Since my priority is healing and support I think the minor vulnerability plus aoe dot has worked out the best. I’ll elemental ring with the BRP destro plus lotus fan to add two dots on opposing groups.
Won’t be able to kill anyone solo, but the added dot pressure softens people up for group mates.
Mass Hysteria - Merciless - impale - elemental ring - lotus fan - Ult: Soul Siphon
Healthy Offering - harness magicka - Combat Prayer - refreshing path - dark cloak - Ult: Soul Siphon
Trans+sanctuary+pirate+BRP destro on my damage bar... or I’ll switch it up if I get bored. Sanctuary is probably the best because it boosts team mates self healing, but sometimes I’ll change to swift so I can epeen my healing numbers. It’s hard to break 1 million healing using sanc because team mates heal themselves so much.
The buff lotus fan provides is huge. Fully buffed the other day I hit some one with a 26k merciless. With minor vulnerability, 20 damage increase from incap and major breach your damage is pretty high. If you haven’t tried it you should try spell power cure. back when I played battlegrounds I use to use trans/SPC/troll king. So basically drop path during a team fight and give your team a ridiculous amount of buffs.0 -
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✭thankyourat wrote: »
The buff lotus fan provides is huge. Fully buffed the other day I hit some one with a 26k merciless. With minor vulnerability, 20 damage increase from incap and major breach your damage is pretty high. If you haven’t tried it you should try spell power cure. back when I played battlegrounds I use to use trans/SPC/troll king. So basically drop path during a team fight and give your team a ridiculous amount of buffs.
26k!!??? Lol bro you’re gonna have the forum trolls acting like that’s normal.0 -
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26k!!??? Lol bro you’re gonna have the forum trolls acting like that’s normal.
Lol I probably should’ve just stayed quiet about that.0 -
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✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »
The buff lotus fan provides is huge. Fully buffed the other day I hit some one with a 26k merciless. With minor vulnerability, 20 damage increase from incap and major breach your damage is pretty high. If you haven’t tried it you should try spell power cure. back when I played battlegrounds I use to use trans/SPC/troll king. So basically drop path during a team fight and give your team a ridiculous amount of buffs.
Hum, someone else mentioned that set recently. Maybe I’ll give it a go, try out another set for shuts and giggles.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
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✭✭✭Btw, just have to add. After trying lotus fan more I love it. It felt a little clunky at first but once you’re used to it the ability’s amazing for my playstyle.
Everyone healed up - check
Elemental ring for the dot with the BRP staff
Lotus fan whoever someone’s attacking and watch them melt
Think I’ve gone up from maybe 3 killing blows per BG to 6 on average.Edited by Iskiab on July 4, 2019 9:18PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
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By less skilled do you mean not having add ons with buff timers, mouse accuracy/speed, custom button mapping, 60+ FPS, I could go on..
If so, I agree.
There are macro users on console too. You can use xim4 or other adapters and cheese your way to win. Alot of people do btw.0 -
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Just be careful where you lotus fan into ie... don’t go right into a Goliath/colossus (from necro).
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Just be careful where you lotus fan into ie... don’t go right into a Goliath/colossus (from necro).
Agreed, now that the bash build has been nerfed I’m seeing it more. That major vuln is nasty.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
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There are macro users on console too. You can use xim4 or other adapters and cheese your way to win. Alot of people do btw.
I know, and it's often obvious. Still doesn't change anything I said.Edited by jhall03 on July 5, 2019 5:35PM0 -
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64M+ AP across 9 toons... kinda makes me a GO0
