22,250 crowns for skyshard packs and 11,700 crowns for any race any faction? Is this a joke?

Eweroun

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

The defense force for this saying "it's optional!" is disgusting. It's not even account-wide for Christ's sake.

The defense force for this saying it's a rip-off is disgusting. It's not even mandatory...


And pls, leave out Christ. We all pray to Alkosh.

DaveMoeDee

mann9753b16_ESO wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

mann9753b16_ESO wrote: »

All of this is Optional.

Skyshards are easy to collect, you can get addons for free that show you the location of each shard on the map, after that you can collect them all with minimal time and effort.

And the Alliances pack is also not needed, because a) Alliances dont mean anything outside of PvP and b) the differences between the races are so minimal that they only matter for these minmax players, who really want that 1% more max potential.

Also like people have said before they should have just been base game account wide unlocks through achievements, once you obtain something you shouldn't have to do it more than once tbh

Hircine, when did Gamers become so lazy?

When they got real jobs and families.

Yasha

As someone who likes to play a lot of alts, I am glad they put the skyshards up for sale and I hope they do the same thing for the psjic skill line and undaunted. I only wish they would make the unlocks account wide, so that once I have finished the grind on one character I have the option to pay to not have to go through that hell again on another toon.

The current pricing is so expensive (due to the per character unlock) that I am unsure whether I'll buy them, even though I think its a great feature.

Commancho

I will repeat this one more time - these prices are a joke.

You better off collecting these skyshards on the surface and lvling up fighter's guild, mages guild and psijic skill lines & unlocking wayshrines than end up paying 15$ for something that you can do in half an hour.

Besides all achievements should be account wide and alt characters should be not allowed to participate in PVP under 50 lvl.
Another overpriced pill of crap in predatory crown store. You could sell account wide unlock for 5000 crowns and that would be already pushing, but this offer is just beyond stupidity. I can only laugh at anyone buying these.

Fusozay

Vercingetorix wrote: »

A cost of about 2900 Crowns is a decent price for eliminating the annoyance of having to grab 59 skyshards under the threat of unwanted PvP interaction. [/i]

yepp... and i will buy this.

Cpt_Teemo

Yasha wrote: »

As someone who likes to play a lot of alts, I am glad they put the skyshards up for sale and I hope they do the same thing for the psjic skill line and undaunted. I only wish they would make the unlocks account wide, so that once I have finished the grind on one character I have the option to pay to not have to go through that hell again on another toon.

The current pricing is so expensive (due to the per character unlock) that I am unsure whether I'll buy them, even though I think its a great feature.

The cost of full set of sky shard unlocks on "One" character can get you 2-3 AAA games, really bad pricing

Yasha

Commancho wrote: »

I will repeat this one more time - these prices are a joke.

alt characters should be not allowed to participate in PVP under 50 lvl.
.

What???

DaveMoeDee

Fusozay wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

A cost of about 2900 Crowns is a decent price for eliminating the annoyance of having to grab 59 skyshards under the threat of unwanted PvP interaction. [/i]

yepp... and i will buy this.

On how many alts?

SKYICE01

Kappa you can legit rather just pay someone. $20 for all sky shards no one will buy this. Failed again zos

TechnoDreamVision

I wished ZOS did not put all of them up for purchase. I think a players should only be allow to purchase sky shards for other alliances, Cyrodiil, Imperial City and DLC regions for their alt characters. I feel slowing down new players' artificial skill points boost will be more beneficial to ZOS bottom line and long-term invested players. It make you kind a wonder when CP10+ player ask you "what is a raw mat?" and "what is a public dungeon?" Some people will be making lots of more money unlocking all the sky shards in the base game.

Mix

50 crowns per skyshard doesn't seem terrible.

As others have said some are VERY easy to get so you wouldn't buy those packs, but for the more tedious ones (looking at your Cyrodiil) the cost may very well be low for the time and effort involved to get them.

Yasha

The Cyrodiil shards are usually the only ones I get on every character, haha.

Skullstachio

Being able to buy skyshards with crowns isn’t all bad. There are numerous good things I can see here.

1. They can only be bought after acquiring the respective “skyshard hunter” achievements of each area with at least one character. (Cyrodilic and Imperial City skyshards included, Pity the players who had to go through the torment that is PvP, I knew their pain at one point when I got the cyrodiilic skyshards on my DK.)
2. Buying skyshards is purely “Optional” and is designed to be a shortcut for those who worked hard the first time. players can still retrieve said skyshards, it will just take longer but at the expense of saving crowns.
3. The only thing Players will and should buy are the skyshards associated with cyrodiil.(provided they got them on one character.) saving them the cruel fate of being zerg’ed, ball grouped, etc. and potentially keeping players from going “down in the dumps.”

essi2

The additions to Any Race, Any Faction are minor.

What was a nice QoL offering is now a complete rip-off

AlnilamE

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

The defense force for this saying "it's optional!" is disgusting. It's not even account-wide for Christ's sake.

It shouldn't be account wide. It's character development.

They are absolutely optional, there is absolutely no need to buy all packs for a character even if you want to buy them.

And I say that as someone who's not going to buy a single pack.

AlnilamE

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

valeriiya wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

The majority of shards are easily and quickly collectible, you buy them if you want to...
Gambling boxes with purely cosmetic things, you buy them if you want to...
Houses, you buy them if you want to...
Subscription you buy it if you want to...
Expansions, you buy them if you want to...

Everything IS optional...

People seem to forget the optional part.
ZO$ is all about the cash grab so nobody should be surprised about the cost of anything in the Crown Store at this point.

But nearly 150$ per character to unlock skill points is quite absurd and now we have 18 slots, so yeah 2,700$ just to get skill points on all 17 other chars if you didn't bother with all the skyshards at all pretty bad if you asked me, but not as bad as MK with there 6600$ for all skins in the game grind lol

Why would you need all the skyshards on every character?

Commancho

AlnilamE wrote: »

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

The defense force for this saying "it's optional!" is disgusting. It's not even account-wide for Christ's sake.

It shouldn't be account wide. It's character development.

They are absolutely optional, there is absolutely no need to buy all packs for a character even if you want to buy them.

And I say that as someone who's not going to buy a single pack.

Everything in life except food & water is optional dude. It doesn't mean that something isn't overpriced.
Community was asking for 5 years for account wide skyshards and all they get is overpriced tokens for single characters.

Rex-Umbra

Ugh 2000 is fair value but displayed like that is cheese

AlnilamE

TechnoDreamVision wrote: »

I wished ZOS did not put all of them up for purchase. I think a players should only be allow to purchase sky shards for other alliances, Cyrodiil, Imperial City and DLC regions for their alt characters. I feel slowing down new players' artificial skill points boost will be more beneficial to ZOS bottom line and long-term invested players. It make you kind a wonder when CP10+ player ask you "what is a raw mat?" and "what is a public dungeon?" Some people will be making lots of more money unlocking all the sky shards in the base game.

You can only buy a skyshard pack for a zone if you have unlocked the relevant skyshard hunter achievement on a different character.

So new players have to go grab the skyshards the first time before they can buy these for alts.

VoiDGhOs7

This is their convenience aka Scam.

AlnilamE

Commancho wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

The defense force for this saying "it's optional!" is disgusting. It's not even account-wide for Christ's sake.

It shouldn't be account wide. It's character development.

They are absolutely optional, there is absolutely no need to buy all packs for a character even if you want to buy them.

And I say that as someone who's not going to buy a single pack.

Everything in life except food & water is optional dude. It doesn't mean that something isn't overpriced.
Community was asking for 5 years for account wide skyshards and all they get is overpriced tokens for single characters.

The people in the community who want to play this game as a MOBA wanted account-wide skyshards.

The people in the community who play this game as an MMORPG (myself included) are happy gathering the skyshards when clearing the zones. Having them account-wide would be a huge disincentive to playing alts for people like us.

ZOS found a middle ground. Take it or leave it, it's your choice.

Facefister

They've finally lost it.

Cpt_Teemo

AlnilamE wrote: »

Commancho wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

The defense force for this saying "it's optional!" is disgusting. It's not even account-wide for Christ's sake.

It shouldn't be account wide. It's character development.

They are absolutely optional, there is absolutely no need to buy all packs for a character even if you want to buy them.

And I say that as someone who's not going to buy a single pack.

Everything in life except food & water is optional dude. It doesn't mean that something isn't overpriced.
Community was asking for 5 years for account wide skyshards and all they get is overpriced tokens for single characters.

The people in the community who want to play this game as a MOBA wanted account-wide skyshards.

The people in the community who play this game as an MMORPG (myself included) are happy gathering the skyshards when clearing the zones. Having them account-wide would be a huge disincentive to playing alts for people like us.

ZOS found a middle ground. Take it or leave it, it's your choice.

What does a Moba have anything to do with Rpg achievements? Two way completely different game genres

randomkeyhits

I just wished when I bought any race, any alliance they just sold me that instead of bundling a load of unwanted tat to boost the price. New version is better tat but still.... its tat.

As for the skyshards.... pretty much as expected and thankfully completely unnecessary.

As an aside, the CE treasure maps, does anyone actually do them or do you just delete them as well?

Tandor

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

Edaphon wrote: »

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

The defense force for this saying "it's optional!" is disgusting. It's not even account-wide for Christ's sake.

What's so disgusting about facts?

Lighting myself on fire is also optional but I don't think it's necessary to state such a useless factoid when discussing the greediness of a multi-billion dollar corporation's business practices.

They were simply responding to the demands of their customers who wanted to avoid what they see as a grind and others see as playing the game. The players were warned that the only way they would get skyshards unlocked other than by exploration would be through the crown store and that is what they duly got - albeit quite a bit cheaper than most thought it would be, but obviously not cheaply enough for those who want everything for nothing.

Facefister

Tandor wrote: »

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

Edaphon wrote: »

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

The defense force for this saying "it's optional!" is disgusting. It's not even account-wide for Christ's sake.

What's so disgusting about facts?

Lighting myself on fire is also optional but I don't think it's necessary to state such a useless factoid when discussing the greediness of a multi-billion dollar corporation's business practices.

They were simply responding to the demands of their customers who wanted to avoid what they see as a grind and others see as playing the game. The players were warned that the only way they would get skyshards unlocked other than by exploration would be through the crown store and that is what they duly got - albeit quite a bit cheaper than most thought it would be, but obviously not cheaply enough for those who want everything for nothing.

You know, you could reduce the grind with an ingame QoL mechanic instead bloating up the shop in a B2P Game full of content DLCs and optional subscription. The amount of monetization this game got the past few months is plain disgusting and may be the breaking point for some.

Pops_ND_Irish

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

Pay attention to the price before the discount. That's $80 in crowns. For reference this pack used to cost 2000 crowns which is roughly $20 and allowed people to choose their faction and play meta builds on any faction. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/item/7919?any-race-any-alliance-bundle

These packs were introduced today to "skip the skyshard grind" total about $150 in value. https://i.imgur.com/axEgyVu.jpg

Almost $250 of price gouging in a single update.

Keep in mind this is on top of an "optional membership" that isn't quite optional for anyone that plays in any serious capacity, a paid class account upgrade, Imperial race account upgrade, yearly expansion packs, quarterly DLC, hundred dollar houses, paid costumes, dyes, animation sets, mounts and gambling boxes containing potions, scrolls, cosmetics and mounts with undisclosed odds that people spend literally thousands of dollars to get because they're unobtainable by any other means.

Look like 2000 crowns to me
Skyshards in the store is for the ones who want an easier route instead of working for it

FleetwoodSmack

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Ugh 2000 is fair value but displayed like that is cheese

Honestly, the more I think about how it's displayed the more it seems like they don't have an actual listing for it yet and are just templating it from existing sales from the store until the base/old Any Race, Any Alliance package makes it's exit from the store so it can take it's place with an updated price. I could be wrong, but I went through and did the maths and ended up around the same price as the marked out price. But that's what it seems like.

rynth

Race and alliance change should be expensive that way you don’t have people constantly flip flopping around especially changing alliances at a whim. Like everyone else if you don’t like the price don’t buy it grow up

FleetwoodSmack

rynth wrote: »

Race and alliance change should be expensive that way you don’t have people constantly flip flopping around especially changing alliances at a whim. Like everyone else if you don’t like the price don’t buy it grow up

You can't change alliance with Any Race, Any Alliance. All it allows you to do is change your race regardless OF alliance. So if you made an Orc in Daggerfall, bought the package, you'd still be stuck with Daggerfall no matter the race you swapped to. There's never been and probably never will be a way to change alliances.