Are the "Dragon's " in Elsweyr miss identified ?

Partieplayin

It seems to me there are allot of misconceptions and miss identifications of Dragons in today's modern age . Simply put Dragons have 4 legs and wings whereas Wyvren's which is the artists rendition in the expansion have 2 legs and wings attached to the arms making them Wyvren's . Historically or mythologically ESO's classification of the creatures are incorrect.
Why don't we call carnotaurus a tyrannosaurus? Because they are not the same creature and identifying one as the other is incorrect.

I think this should be changed asap younger people who are ignorant of the fact or people may just not know the difference or the truth. I think misleading people into thinking these are dragons and not wyverns is not right. Please just call them as they are "Wyvrens" or design actual Dragons for the game please and thank you.

jaws343

If the people of Nirn call them dragons, they are dragons.

SpacemanSpiff1

That's what Elder Scrolls dragons are. get over it.

Facefister

Partieplayin wrote: »

It seems to me there are allot of misconceptions and miss identifications of Dragons in today's modern age . Simply put Dragons have 4 legs and wings whereas Wyvren's which is the artists rendition in the expansion have 2 legs and wings attached to the arms making them Wyvren's . Historically or mythologically ESO's classification of the creatures are incorrect.
Why don't we call carnotaurus a tyrannosaurus? Because they are not the same creature and identifying one as the other is incorrect.

I think this should be changed asap younger people who are ignorant of the fact or people may just not know the difference or the truth. I think misleading people into thinking these are dragons and not wyverns is not right. Please just call them as they are "Wyvrens" or design actual Dragons for the game please and thank you.

Then rename Clannfears into Raptors.

MrBrownstone

Are you aware that they are fantasy creatures, unlike dinosaurs?

According to your logic, either Elder Scrolls or Lord of the Rings did Orcs wrong.

Colecovision

At this point I'd like to deliver an important reminder that this is all pretend.

DeadlyRecluse

My worldview allows for dragons with a wide variety of wing/leg arrangements.

Ogou

Here we go again. I guess the Wood Elves also have to be made vegetarian now. The dwarves have to be made short. Ebony has to be a wooden material. Should I keep going?

Veesk

Historically dragons look different around the world, they don't always have four legs and two wings.

Edaphon

Partieplayin wrote: »

Why don't we call carnotaurus a tyrannosaurus? Because they are not the same creature and identifying one as the other is incorrect.

The important difference here is that those two really existed while dragons are completely made up. They don't have any true appearance, people can make them look like whatever they want.

Glurin

This came up when Skyrim was released. The general consensus was pretty much that they are technically wyverns but that it also doesn't really matter all that much. A fire breathing flying lizard by any other name is still a fire breathing flying lizard.

Even in real world history, wyverns were and still are often referred to as dragons, since the only common distinction between them is that one is bipedal.

therift

For the love of Mara, not this crap again!

Partieplayin

Well I guess dolphins are sharks according to the logical responses I've seen so far and why is that because someone says it's so lol. Ignorance is bliss

WrathOfInnos

I think calling that classification “a fact” is going too far. These dragons match what was in Skyrim. They also happen to match GoT, arguably the most iconic example in modern culture.

One other important detail is that they are intelligent beings, and can speak, which typically implies dragon not wyvern. I don’t even think that wyverns have fire (or frost) breath.

DarknDarker

LOok, its not your world, you don't have a say in what they call them. they could be calling them a freaking chicken, and your opinion wouldn't matter any more than it does now.

besides, wyverns are often considered a subtype of dragon, and there are myths that describe wyverns, but call them dragons. so... your point is moot. and fyi, this argument has been done to death already, just cus necro is coming, doesn't mean it needs to be brought back....

JadeCoin

I've heard most dragons these days prefer "Ms." This is the Second Era after all.

jaws343

Partieplayin wrote: »

Well I guess dolphins are sharks according to the logical responses I've seen so far and why is that because someone says it's so lol. Ignorance is bliss

Except, sharks and dolphins are real creatures that actually exist on a planet called Earth, where the people of that planet have decided on a name for those creatures.

DeadlyRecluse

I imagine Dragon truther meetings assembling in some tavern basement in Elsweyr...

"I'm telling you man, they aren't dragons! They're WYVERNS!"

Ogou

Partieplayin wrote: »

Well I guess dolphins are sharks according to the logical responses I've seen so far

Sure, if you can show me a definitive source stating that dragons can only have four legs and a pair of wings.

Partieplayin

People say that dragons are mythical creatures because no evidence has been found of there existence yet almost every culture around the know world has some form of flying serpent in there lore I find that a bit strange consider golbal communication supposedly wasn't a thing. Just like all the ancient megalithic structures were built with chisels and hammers right

NordSwordnBoard

Partieplayin wrote: »

It seems to me there are allot of misconceptions and miss identifications of Dragons in today's modern age . Simply put Dragons have 4 legs and wings whereas Wyvren's which is the artists rendition in the expansion have 2 legs and wings attached to the arms making them Wyvren's . Historically or mythologically ESO's classification of the creatures are incorrect.
Why don't we call carnotaurus a tyrannosaurus? Because they are not the same creature and identifying one as the other is incorrect.

I think this should be changed asap younger people who are ignorant of the fact or people may just not know the difference or the truth. I think misleading people into thinking these are dragons and not wyverns is not right. Please just call them as they are "Wyvrens" or design actual Dragons for the game please and thank you.

DKs stole my wings, but I'm still a dragon despite your focus on only western mythology!

Ogou

Partieplayin wrote: »

People say that dragons are mythical creatures because no evidence has been found of there existence yet almost every culture around the know world has some form of flying serpent in there lore I find that a bit strange consider golbal communication supposedly wasn't a thing. Just like all the ancient megalithic structures were built with chisels and hammers right

Did all those flying serpents have 4 legs and 2 wings? Why are you calling them dragons then?

SirAndy

Partieplayin wrote: »

People say that dragons are mythical creatures because no evidence has been found of there existence yet almost every culture around the know world has some form of flying serpent in there lore I find that a bit strange consider golbal communication supposedly wasn't a thing. Just like all the ancient megalithic structures were built with chisels and hammers right

:tinfoilhat:

Edaphon

Partieplayin wrote: »

People say that dragons are mythical creatures because no evidence has been found of there existence yet almost every culture around the know world has some form of flying serpent in there lore I find that a bit strange consider golbal communication supposedly wasn't a thing. Just like all the ancient megalithic structures were built with chisels and hammers right

Well, duh. The aliens told everyone about the dragons.

Lady_Sleepless

Every time someone brings this up I always think of the chinese dragon. No wings, can fly and has four legs (normally). Still a dragon. It doesn't matter if it doesn't match up to your expectation of a dragon design, there are multiple designs and this is the one that Elder Scrolls has decided upon. Still a dragon.

Chrlynsch

All wyverns are dragons, but not all dragons are wyverns.

therift

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Partieplayin wrote: »

It seems to me there are allot of misconceptions and miss identifications of Dragons in today's modern age . Simply put Dragons have 4 legs and wings whereas Wyvren's which is the artists rendition in the expansion have 2 legs and wings attached to the arms making them Wyvren's . Historically or mythologically ESO's classification of the creatures are incorrect.
Why don't we call carnotaurus a tyrannosaurus? Because they are not the same creature and identifying one as the other is incorrect.

I think this should be changed asap younger people who are ignorant of the fact or people may just not know the difference or the truth. I think misleading people into thinking these are dragons and not wyverns is not right. Please just call them as they are "Wyvrens" or design actual Dragons for the game please and thank you.

DKs stole my wings, but I'm still a dragon despite your focus on only western mythology!

Quite correct.

Dragons do not have wings. OP needs to stop spreading malicious propaganda, which will only confuse the younger generation.

Partieplayin

Bipedal equals Wyvren if your going to use mythical creatures at least get it right.

SpacemanSpiff1

Partieplayin wrote: »

People say that dragons are mythical creatures because no evidence has been found of there existence yet almost every culture around the know world has some form of flying serpent in there lore I find that a bit strange consider golbal communication supposedly wasn't a thing. Just like all the ancient megalithic structures were built with chisels and hammers right

jaws343

Partieplayin wrote: »

People say that dragons are mythical creatures because no evidence has been found of there existence yet almost every culture around the know world has some form of flying serpent in there lore I find that a bit strange consider golbal communication supposedly wasn't a thing. Just like all the ancient megalithic structures were built with chisels and hammers right

Consider that all cultures have a shared history of finding giant bones in the ground. It's like pointing to the fact that all cultures independently developed entry ways into their homes as a global conspiracy. Rather than just an instinctual reaction to a common problem or experience.

Also, consider that Dragon is a overarching western label that has been imposed on the similar, but not same, myths from around the world. The Chinese "dragon" is nowhere near the same as the European dragon. It resembles more of a serpent.

NordSwordnBoard

Partieplayin wrote: »

People say that dragons are mythical creatures because no evidence has been found of there existence yet almost every culture around the know world has some form of flying serpent in there lore I find that a bit strange consider golbal communication supposedly wasn't a thing. Just like all the ancient megalithic structures were built with chisels and hammers right