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PLEASE HELP MAGBLADE!

  • Vietfox
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    New patch affected the way most magblades used to play, but that doesn't mean magblades are in a bad spot.
  • HowlKimchi
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    Vietfox wrote: »
    New patch affected the way most magblades used to play, but that doesn't mean magblades are in a bad spot.

    Really? I find that I have to be at peak performance to be able to keep up with other classes on my magblade. Very little margin for error.

    I would like to know how you adjusted this patch, would you care to share your thoughts? :)
    previously @HaruKamui but I outgrew my weeb phase (probably)

    PC/NA - EP - Howl Bragi/Howl Kimchi
  • Vietfox
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    @HaruKamui
    HaruKamui wrote: »
    Vietfox wrote: »
    New patch affected the way most magblades used to play, but that doesn't mean magblades are in a bad spot.

    Really? I find that I have to be at peak performance to be able to keep up with other classes on my magblade. Very little margin for error.

    I would like to know how you adjusted this patch, would you care to share your thoughts? :)

    Ok my builds are 100% customized and i don't tend to share them (yeah, i'm that kind of people), but i will make an exception now.
    Before the evasion and shield nerf i used to rely on both shield and blur (only 1 shield though) and worked pretty damn well. Since evasion doesnt work the same way it used to be i decided to make a magicka build around roll dodging and light/heavy attacks, meaning that i got from 4 to 7 pieces with well fitted + arround 33 on tumbling.
    I need to sacrifice some mag recovery, and what i do is to run siphoning strikes + elemental drain with some cp spent on more dmg from basic attacks + recovery from them.
    Add merciless resolve + soul harvest and you just got a nice build.
    Edited by Vietfox on March 15, 2019 1:59PM
  • Vietfox
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    Also run 5 light + 2 medium for those medium passives, especially because of Athletics passive ;)
  • LordTareq
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    HaruKamui wrote: »
    i dont think impale is that essential in pvp, especially since are bars are already too crowded and we have impale+spectral bow as the finisher. For my case if the target lives through that. I rely on light attack + swallow soul + torug's enchant to finish the job.

    For melee magblades I would assume that weaving concealed is already pretty good as an "execute"

    I’ve tried without Impale but finishing off targets is just too hard without it in my experience. Plus the range on it is really useful. I always keep it on one bar.
    I suppose when you really pump everything into doing damage so concealed hits for 7-8k+ in battlegrounds, going without impale would work better.

  • Vietfox
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    @LordTareq
    LordTareq wrote: »
    HaruKamui wrote: »
    i dont think impale is that essential in pvp, especially since are bars are already too crowded and we have impale+spectral bow as the finisher. For my case if the target lives through that. I rely on light attack + swallow soul + torug's enchant to finish the job.

    For melee magblades I would assume that weaving concealed is already pretty good as an "execute"

    I’ve tried without Impale but finishing off targets is just too hard without it in my experience. Plus the range on it is really useful. I always keep it on one bar.
    I suppose when you really pump everything into doing damage so concealed hits for 7-8k+ in battlegrounds, going without impale would work better.

    NB executes are trash, you sacrifice a slot just for that bonus damage under 25%. Concealed/SA or even swallow soul are enough.
    PS: trash for pvp i meant.
    Edited by Vietfox on March 15, 2019 4:42PM
  • Fiktius
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    Personally I don't even have space for NB execution skill. That slot is taken by additional healing skill, which I had to slot after healing ward got nerfed. I still use healing ward with dampen magic shield, but in order to actually get some needed burst heal in combat, I slotted Blessing of Restoration - skill. However I'm not giving up with shade either, so my ability bars are already filled with 0 flexibility spot.
    If I have to finish my target, I'll make sure to bomb them with my remaining damaging skills and finish them off that way.
    Overall I don't have any issues against most of the targets, except those DKs which like to spam wings like there's no tomorrow. That's mostly what I find frustrating. I'm often prepared with block already due I get so many attacks of mine reflected right back to me.
    Otherwise I'm having a lot fun with my mag NB as solo in Cyrodiil. :)
  • Iskiab
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    Anyone tried the symphony of blades monster set? I’m curious if swallow soul will let it proc on yourself since you’re never healing anyone else.

    Maybe 3 front lich + Asylum or master front bar/5 back bar lich + Symphony of Blades monster + The penetration set (can’t recall the name) or a proc set?

    I’ve also been thinking of trying combat physician with the same thinking.
    Edited by Iskiab on March 16, 2019 2:02AM
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • Knootewoot
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Anyone tried the symphony of blades monster set? I’m curious if swallow soul will let it proc on yourself since you’re never healing anyone else.

    Maybe 3 front lich + Asylum or master front bar/5 back bar lich + Symphony of Blades monster + The penetration set (can’t recall the name) or a proc set?

    I’ve also been thinking of trying combat physician with the same thinking.

    Self healing works well with swallow soul and combat physician.
    But the set itself is sh#t in PvP. The shield is 4k in PvP and one light attack and it's gone.

    ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • Iskiab
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    Yea,
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Anyone tried the symphony of blades monster set? I’m curious if swallow soul will let it proc on yourself since you’re never healing anyone else.

    Maybe 3 front lich + Asylum or master front bar/5 back bar lich + Symphony of Blades monster + The penetration set (can’t recall the name) or a proc set?

    I’ve also been thinking of trying combat physician with the same thinking.

    Self healing works well with swallow soul and combat physician.
    But the set itself is sh#t in PvP. The shield is 4k in PvP and one light attack and it's gone.

    That’s what someone else said when I mentioned it before, but if that’s true then 4K extra health wouldn’t make a difference. It’s also a larger heal than ward ally.
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • Knootewoot
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Yea,
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Anyone tried the symphony of blades monster set? I’m curious if swallow soul will let it proc on yourself since you’re never healing anyone else.

    Maybe 3 front lich + Asylum or master front bar/5 back bar lich + Symphony of Blades monster + The penetration set (can’t recall the name) or a proc set?

    I’ve also been thinking of trying combat physician with the same thinking.

    Self healing works well with swallow soul and combat physician.
    But the set itself is sh#t in PvP. The shield is 4k in PvP and one light attack and it's gone.

    That’s what someone else said when I mentioned it before, but if that’s true then 4K extra health wouldn’t make a difference. It’s also a larger heal than ward ally.

    Yeah thats true. But if you meet mr. stamina, you die just as quick as with another set. I can run iceheart+combat phycisian and another set all impenetrable with shields constant up through healing and doing crit damage. To me it seems i die just as quick as in "normal" armor like innate axiom and warmaiden. Only there i do more damage.

    Yesterday i had such a sheit experience in PVP, just everytime i met someone i died in less then a second. 24k health and 3k ish crit resistance. Whereas i dodge roll around in my stamblade i don't even get hit. I am this close of giving up on magblade in PvP (PvE it is still fun) but ill try again today.
    ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • Datthaw
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Yea,
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Anyone tried the symphony of blades monster set? I’m curious if swallow soul will let it proc on yourself since you’re never healing anyone else.

    Maybe 3 front lich + Asylum or master front bar/5 back bar lich + Symphony of Blades monster + The penetration set (can’t recall the name) or a proc set?

    I’ve also been thinking of trying combat physician with the same thinking.

    Self healing works well with swallow soul and combat physician.
    But the set itself is sh#t in PvP. The shield is 4k in PvP and one light attack and it's gone.

    That’s what someone else said when I mentioned it before, but if that’s true then 4K extra health wouldn’t make a difference. It’s also a larger heal than ward ally.

    Yeah thats true. But if you meet mr. stamina, you die just as quick as with another set. I can run iceheart+combat phycisian and another set all impenetrable with shields constant up through healing and doing crit damage. To me it seems i die just as quick as in "normal" armor like innate axiom and warmaiden. Only there i do more damage.

    Yesterday i had such a sheit experience in PVP, just everytime i met someone i died in less then a second. 24k health and 3k ish crit resistance. Whereas i dodge roll around in my stamblade i don't even get hit. I am this close of giving up on magblade in PvP (PvE it is still fun) but ill try again today.

    Magnb is punishing I've said it for a whIle now, it's pointless to build around shields for magnb. Think of them as the "oh ***" absorb 2 hits until you can cloak or shade skill. Trying to turtle is useless. You can still semi turtle melee characters if you have fear trap I use them like sorc mines.
  • LordTareq
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Anyone tried the symphony of blades monster set? I’m curious if swallow soul will let it proc on yourself since you’re never healing anyone else.

    Maybe 3 front lich + Asylum or master front bar/5 back bar lich + Symphony of Blades monster + The penetration set (can’t recall the name) or a proc set?

    I’ve also been thinking of trying combat physician with the same thinking.

    Symphony cannot proc on yourself. Its useless for solo play.

  • raistin87
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    I good place to start would be to make Hemorrhage passive also grant minor prophecy, not just minor savagery
  • Noctus
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    im pretty good with my nb but there is no way to fight back a dragonknight. its unfair. its free kill for the dragonknight. u cant counter it and ur just reduced to crushing shock or concealed weapon u cant even lightattack anymore to proc merciless resolve or siphoning strikes. meeting especially a magdk is a deathsentence for magblade.

    they dont ban reflective scales against magblades for nothing on duells. its just unfair and unbalanced.
  • Knootewoot
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    Datthaw wrote: »
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Yea,
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Anyone tried the symphony of blades monster set? I’m curious if swallow soul will let it proc on yourself since you’re never healing anyone else.

    Maybe 3 front lich + Asylum or master front bar/5 back bar lich + Symphony of Blades monster + The penetration set (can’t recall the name) or a proc set?

    I’ve also been thinking of trying combat physician with the same thinking.

    Self healing works well with swallow soul and combat physician.
    But the set itself is sh#t in PvP. The shield is 4k in PvP and one light attack and it's gone.

    That’s what someone else said when I mentioned it before, but if that’s true then 4K extra health wouldn’t make a difference. It’s also a larger heal than ward ally.

    Yeah thats true. But if you meet mr. stamina, you die just as quick as with another set. I can run iceheart+combat phycisian and another set all impenetrable with shields constant up through healing and doing crit damage. To me it seems i die just as quick as in "normal" armor like innate axiom and warmaiden. Only there i do more damage.

    Yesterday i had such a sheit experience in PVP, just everytime i met someone i died in less then a second. 24k health and 3k ish crit resistance. Whereas i dodge roll around in my stamblade i don't even get hit. I am this close of giving up on magblade in PvP (PvE it is still fun) but ill try again today.

    Magnb is punishing I've said it for a whIle now, it's pointless to build around shields for magnb. Think of them as the "oh ***" absorb 2 hits until you can cloak or shade skill. Trying to turtle is useless. You can still semi turtle melee characters if you have fear trap I use them like sorc mines.

    I love fear traps. I place them near doors when people enter or leave, i put them over or near enemy corpses and of course when i am sieging i make sure im in the middle of them so i cannot get ganked.
    ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • Iskiab
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Yea,
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Anyone tried the symphony of blades monster set? I’m curious if swallow soul will let it proc on yourself since you’re never healing anyone else.

    Maybe 3 front lich + Asylum or master front bar/5 back bar lich + Symphony of Blades monster + The penetration set (can’t recall the name) or a proc set?

    I’ve also been thinking of trying combat physician with the same thinking.

    Self healing works well with swallow soul and combat physician.
    But the set itself is sh#t in PvP. The shield is 4k in PvP and one light attack and it's gone.

    That’s what someone else said when I mentioned it before, but if that’s true then 4K extra health wouldn’t make a difference. It’s also a larger heal than ward ally.

    Yeah thats true. But if you meet mr. stamina, you die just as quick as with another set. I can run iceheart+combat phycisian and another set all impenetrable with shields constant up through healing and doing crit damage. To me it seems i die just as quick as in "normal" armor like innate axiom and warmaiden. Only there i do more damage.

    Yesterday i had such a sheit experience in PVP, just everytime i met someone i died in less then a second. 24k health and 3k ish crit resistance. Whereas i dodge roll around in my stamblade i don't even get hit. I am this close of giving up on magblade in PvP (PvE it is still fun) but ill try again today.

    Agreed, that’s why when I was magblade what I tried was high magicka recovery and cloaking like crazy. Cloak is just as good as dodge rolling for a magblade because you can’t get hit. There are counters, and you can get run down pretty easily so I went with undo as the ultimate.

    My rotation was literally repeating crushing and cloak until my Asylum staff hit.

    Problem was I ended up with 0 self healing once I figured out the tools I needed along with low damage. That’s when I gave up. Last time I played magblade I was running Asylum front, 5 lich back bar, ice heart, bright throat. Needs crazy high recovery to work which meant I sacrificed a damage set. The other problem was crushing has a beam animation which gives away your position.

    Merciless - crippling - impale - crushing - shadowy disguise u: undo

    Siphoning - double take - pbaoe fear - concealed weapon - shadowy disguise u: assassination one

    IDK, I was semi happy with it but felt low damage, but I suck at dps in general, maybe I’m just better off sticking to healing.

    Even after getting my PK I’d run away and sit there at half health with no way to get it back up. Weaknesses were the destro circle ultimate, DK’s stun aoe ultimate, sweeps, and detection pots. Maybe I just needed to add more speed and the psijiic channel to help recover my resources when I wasn’t fighting, IDK.

    Thinking about it now soul siphon ultimate on the back bar and elemental blockade on the back bar might improve it. You need shadowy disguise on both bars because if you’re caught out of cloak on the back bar you’re dead.
    Edited by Iskiab on March 16, 2019 2:35PM
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • Fiktius
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    Noctus wrote: »
    im pretty good with my nb but there is no way to fight back a dragonknight. its unfair. its free kill for the dragonknight. u cant counter it and ur just reduced to crushing shock or concealed weapon u cant even lightattack anymore to proc merciless resolve or siphoning strikes. meeting especially a magdk is a deathsentence for magblade.

    they dont ban reflective scales against magblades for nothing on duells. its just unfair and unbalanced.

    Agree, that's pretty much what I think as well. Even tho I'm not feeding DKs with extra kills. I can defend myself and if I find wingspammer trying to encounter me and things gets miserable, I'll do some shadeplay around them and try to get away with cloack.
    However I find it very sad that I have to often ignore entire class due their ability which counter's my entire attacking tool kit. The only thing which they can't reflect is my meteor/incap, but ult alone does not help much.
    But then again, I refuse to change the playstyle which I love, just because there are wing flapping DKs everywhere.
    I have no issues to survive and do fine in Cyrodiil where I can be more selective about who I try to fight against, but BG matches are becoming more nightmare to me, several DKs in every single match I play. :/
  • Torbschka
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    I have good success with the following range mageblade build I created:

    5x rattle front
    5x Amber/shackle Body
    1x vSMA resto
    2x pirate skelly

    Kahjit
    Full prismatic
    Full impen
    Shadow mundus
    Preicse weapons
    +Race against time

    For me it is perfect, good tankyness If I get caught + enough stam to shade Roll Roll shade cloak If get caught.

    Frontbar:
    Strife, magelight, clench, merciless, cloak,Soul assault

    Backbar:
    Rapid, Rat , shade, SA, Cripple/Harness, undo/resto ult

    I Play almost only No CP, its very good and is very balanced and full ranged + tanky, dont attack dks though lol. Adjust Ur jewelry enchants until Ur fine. U can exchange the Item Sets, since its mainly a high crit/crit dmg build, I Just dont Like entropy on magnb.
  • HowlKimchi
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    Torbschka wrote: »
    I have good success with the following range mageblade build I created:

    5x rattle front
    5x Amber/shackle Body
    1x vSMA resto
    2x pirate skelly

    Kahjit
    Full prismatic
    Full impen
    Shadow mundus
    Preicse weapons
    +Race against time

    For me it is perfect, good tankyness If I get caught + enough stam to shade Roll Roll shade cloak If get caught.

    Frontbar:
    Strife, magelight, clench, merciless, cloak,Soul assault

    Backbar:
    Rapid, Rat , shade, SA, Cripple/Harness, undo/resto ult

    I Play almost only No CP, its very good and is very balanced and full ranged + tanky, dont attack dks though lol. Adjust Ur jewelry enchants until Ur fine. U can exchange the Item Sets, since its mainly a high crit/crit dmg build, I Just dont Like entropy on magnb.

    Yes that definitely seems like a fluid and tanky build to use. Is the damage enough to deal with people who have their defensive rotation down? What do you mean by Rat and Rapid on your backbar btw?
    previously @HaruKamui but I outgrew my weeb phase (probably)

    PC/NA - EP - Howl Bragi/Howl Kimchi
  • Torbschka
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    HaruKamui wrote: »
    Torbschka wrote: »
    I have good success with the following range mageblade build I created:

    5x rattle front
    5x Amber/shackle Body
    1x vSMA resto
    2x pirate skelly

    Kahjit
    Full prismatic
    Full impen
    Shadow mundus
    Preicse weapons
    +Race against time

    For me it is perfect, good tankyness If I get caught + enough stam to shade Roll Roll shade cloak If get caught.

    Frontbar:
    Strife, magelight, clench, merciless, cloak,Soul assault

    Backbar:
    Rapid, Rat , shade, SA, Cripple/Harness, undo/resto ult

    I Play almost only No CP, its very good and is very balanced and full ranged + tanky, dont attack dks though lol. Adjust Ur jewelry enchants until Ur fine. U can exchange the Item Sets, since its mainly a high crit/crit dmg build, I Just dont Like entropy on magnb.

    Yes that definitely seems like a fluid and tanky build to use. Is the damage enough to deal with people who have their defensive rotation down? What do you mean by Rat and Rapid on your backbar btw?

    Damage is very good, clench + cripple + soul assault is a lot of damage ticking (more dots = more dps = more crits per second). IT isnt even to reliant on merciless. U could still swap skills out and Put on fear + incap and run it as usual, But I think range blade is Superior.

    U have 93% + 8% merciless more crit dmg with 43% crit in no cp, yes, damage is very good.

    Rapid is Rapid Regeneration from the resto staff line, combined with the vSMA resto IT adds a Ton of sustain . Rat = Race against time from psijic Line, more Speed + 10% crit dmg.

    Its a Well rounded build with a lot of synergys, but tanky enough to survive and Kite and as u sad, gameplay is very fast and fun.
  • HowlKimchi
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    Torbschka wrote: »
    HaruKamui wrote: »
    Torbschka wrote: »
    I have good success with the following range mageblade build I created:

    5x rattle front
    5x Amber/shackle Body
    1x vSMA resto
    2x pirate skelly

    Kahjit
    Full prismatic
    Full impen
    Shadow mundus
    Preicse weapons
    +Race against time

    For me it is perfect, good tankyness If I get caught + enough stam to shade Roll Roll shade cloak If get caught.

    Frontbar:
    Strife, magelight, clench, merciless, cloak,Soul assault

    Backbar:
    Rapid, Rat , shade, SA, Cripple/Harness, undo/resto ult

    I Play almost only No CP, its very good and is very balanced and full ranged + tanky, dont attack dks though lol. Adjust Ur jewelry enchants until Ur fine. U can exchange the Item Sets, since its mainly a high crit/crit dmg build, I Just dont Like entropy on magnb.

    Yes that definitely seems like a fluid and tanky build to use. Is the damage enough to deal with people who have their defensive rotation down? What do you mean by Rat and Rapid on your backbar btw?

    Damage is very good, clench + cripple + soul assault is a lot of damage ticking (more dots = more dps = more crits per second). IT isnt even to reliant on merciless. U could still swap skills out and Put on fear + incap and run it as usual, But I think range blade is Superior.

    U have 93% + 8% merciless more crit dmg with 43% crit in no cp, yes, damage is very good.

    Rapid is Rapid Regeneration from the resto staff line, combined with the vSMA resto IT adds a Ton of sustain . Rat = Race against time from psijic Line, more Speed + 10% crit dmg.

    Its a Well rounded build with a lot of synergys, but tanky enough to survive and Kite and as u sad, gameplay is very fast and fun.

    Ah I see, seems fun! I wish I had the maelstrom resto. My build is also using mutagen. I'm using a 2pc lich resto right now for the measly magicka regen. It would tremendously improve if I had the maelstrom staff.
    previously @HaruKamui but I outgrew my weeb phase (probably)

    PC/NA - EP - Howl Bragi/Howl Kimchi
  • Torbschka
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    HaruKamui wrote: »
    Torbschka wrote: »
    HaruKamui wrote: »
    Torbschka wrote: »
    I have good success with the following range mageblade build I created:

    5x rattle front
    5x Amber/shackle Body
    1x vSMA resto
    2x pirate skelly

    Kahjit
    Full prismatic
    Full impen
    Shadow mundus
    Preicse weapons
    +Race against time

    For me it is perfect, good tankyness If I get caught + enough stam to shade Roll Roll shade cloak If get caught.

    Frontbar:
    Strife, magelight, clench, merciless, cloak,Soul assault

    Backbar:
    Rapid, Rat , shade, SA, Cripple/Harness, undo/resto ult

    I Play almost only No CP, its very good and is very balanced and full ranged + tanky, dont attack dks though lol. Adjust Ur jewelry enchants until Ur fine. U can exchange the Item Sets, since its mainly a high crit/crit dmg build, I Just dont Like entropy on magnb.

    Yes that definitely seems like a fluid and tanky build to use. Is the damage enough to deal with people who have their defensive rotation down? What do you mean by Rat and Rapid on your backbar btw?

    Damage is very good, clench + cripple + soul assault is a lot of damage ticking (more dots = more dps = more crits per second). IT isnt even to reliant on merciless. U could still swap skills out and Put on fear + incap and run it as usual, But I think range blade is Superior.

    U have 93% + 8% merciless more crit dmg with 43% crit in no cp, yes, damage is very good.

    Rapid is Rapid Regeneration from the resto staff line, combined with the vSMA resto IT adds a Ton of sustain . Rat = Race against time from psijic Line, more Speed + 10% crit dmg.

    Its a Well rounded build with a lot of synergys, but tanky enough to survive and Kite and as u sad, gameplay is very fast and fun.

    Ah I see, seems fun! I wish I had the maelstrom resto. My build is also using mutagen. I'm using a 2pc lich resto right now for the measly magicka regen. It would tremendously improve if I had the maelstrom staff.

    vSMA is good, but as I said - this build is based around kahjit + Shadow + precise + "dots", U can make this work with a lot of setups and dont necessarily need the vSMA resto. Amber + Shackle or something will also work and Just would have the disadvantage to slot entropy or using spell damage pots, damage and sustain will be the same with rattle + vSMA resto.
  • fred4
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    That is kind of similar to how I run my magplar.
    PC EU: Magblade (PvP main), DK (PvE Tank), Sorc (PvP and PvE), Magden (PvE Healer), Magplar (PvP and PvE DD), Arcanist (PvE DD)
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  • Torbschka
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    fred4 wrote: »
    That is kind of similar to how I run my magplar.

    Also kahjit and crit dmg focused? Does it work for U?
  • fred4
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    Torbschka wrote: »
    fred4 wrote: »
    That is kind of similar to how I run my magplar.

    Also kahjit and crit dmg focused? Does it work for U?
    Nah, Breton. But heals from main attack + vMA resto + Race Against Time + Pirate Skeleton + Inner Light on front bar + no shields + Amber Plasm + A.N.Other damage set (Overwhelming Surge). Light armor with Protective jewelry. The idea being to use the templar burst heal only rarely and heal over time instead. I do not even slot purge, but I thought I'd miss the burst heal on NB for this type of build. Of course NB can shade / cloak.
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  • Jeezye
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    Torbschka wrote: »
    HaruKamui wrote: »
    Torbschka wrote: »
    I have good success with the following range mageblade build I created:

    5x rattle front
    5x Amber/shackle Body
    1x vSMA resto
    2x pirate skelly

    Kahjit
    Full prismatic
    Full impen
    Shadow mundus
    Preicse weapons
    +Race against time

    For me it is perfect, good tankyness If I get caught + enough stam to shade Roll Roll shade cloak If get caught.

    Frontbar:
    Strife, magelight, clench, merciless, cloak,Soul assault

    Backbar:
    Rapid, Rat , shade, SA, Cripple/Harness, undo/resto ult

    I Play almost only No CP, its very good and is very balanced and full ranged + tanky, dont attack dks though lol. Adjust Ur jewelry enchants until Ur fine. U can exchange the Item Sets, since its mainly a high crit/crit dmg build, I Just dont Like entropy on magnb.

    Yes that definitely seems like a fluid and tanky build to use. Is the damage enough to deal with people who have their defensive rotation down? What do you mean by Rat and Rapid on your backbar btw?

    Damage is very good, clench + cripple + soul assault is a lot of damage ticking (more dots = more dps = more crits per second). IT isnt even to reliant on merciless. U could still swap skills out and Put on fear + incap and run it as usual, But I think range blade is Superior.

    U have 93% + 8% merciless more crit dmg with 43% crit in no cp, yes, damage is very good.

    Rapid is Rapid Regeneration from the resto staff line, combined with the vSMA resto IT adds a Ton of sustain . Rat = Race against time from psijic Line, more Speed + 10% crit dmg.

    Its a Well rounded build with a lot of synergys, but tanky enough to survive and Kite and as u sad, gameplay is very fast and fun.

    Thanks for sharing, I also think that critblade is the way to go with the current patch. Be it a stealthy ganker or more of the brawler style, crit enables much higher burst (espcially with shadow mundus and khajit), but also provides higher healing of siphoning attacks and dark cloak which can't be buffed my maxmag or spelldamage.

    I haven't yet figured out how to build it properly though, as it is much harder to get high crit on magicka than it is on stamina.... precise weapons is def a must, but besides that there's not really optimal armor sets that provide the right stats..
  • Iskiab
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    @Jeezye

    Nice, I’m going to try something like that out. I sort of feel like my main is ‘done’ so to speak; I’m using the exact sets I want, with the traits I want, all gold.

    I’ve been struggling with my khajit stamblade, might respec to magicka and try dps or a crit hybrid. I want to be good on this toon because it’s the one with the ‘Iskiab’ name, but so far I’ve been the worst stamblade I’ve ever seen.

    For crit either mother’s sorrow if you want to invest heavy in crit, or combat physician with swallow soul?
    Edited by Iskiab on March 18, 2019 7:28PM
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  • Fiktius
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    For crit either mother’s sorrow if you want to invest heavy in crit, or combat physician with swallow soul?

    I tried Mother's Sorrow too. I really liked crits which that set provided. I was playing with that set in BGs and was doing fine in Sotha too, but when I entered into Shor and met first stam player with Fury set on, his weapon damage went in steroids very very quickly. That reminded me that Fury meta alone does not play in favor of crit sets. :(
    Of course this is preference question, but personally that Fury popularity made me drop idea of crit builds in CP campaigns right away and I took a set in use, which boosts pure damage without focusing on crits.
    Perhaps Fury is not as popular in no-CP campaigns as it is in CP campaigns, so crit builds might perform there a bit better way due you can force critical hits with Shadowy Disguise, when ever you want.
    Edited by Fiktius on March 18, 2019 7:54PM
  • ChefZero
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    Fiktius wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    For crit either mother’s sorrow if you want to invest heavy in crit, or combat physician with swallow soul?

    I tried Mother's Sorrow too. I really liked crits which that set provided. I was playing with that set in BGs and was doing fine in Sotha too, but when I entered into Shor and met first stam player with Fury set on, his weapon damage went in steroids very very quickly. That reminded me that Fury meta alone does not play in favor of crit sets. :(
    Of course this is preference question, but personally that Fury popularity made me drop idea of crit builds in CP campaigns right away and I took a set in use, which boosts pure damage without focusing on crits.

    Sounds like bringing a knife to a gun fight :D
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