Wood Elf/ Bosmer losing stealth passive, An open letter.

  • ruikkarikun
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    Stealth in PVE had zero effect. New passive is not so much better but hey, it's not stealth for pve xd. And yes, I think bosmer nb will be good in PVP.
  • BlueRaven
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    Stealth in PVE had zero effect. New passive is not so much better but hey, it's not stealth for pve xd. And yes, I think bosmer nb will be good in PVP.

    Stealth is used in PVE and PVP. Stealth Detect is PVP only.

  • zyk
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    Left4Daud wrote: »
    It’s just beyond head scratching and beyond disappointing.
    Isn't that the whole world right now? Ethics are out of fashion atm. I know someone reading this right now is thinking, "lol ethics in a video game," which is exactly my point.
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  • ruikkarikun
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    Stealth in PVE had zero effect. New passive is not so much better but hey, it's not stealth for pve xd. And yes, I think bosmer nb will be good in PVP.

    @ruikkarikun Why do you think that Bosmer NB will be good in PvP? You can go for Khajiit for 10% more damage, more health and health regen, more magicka and magicka regen, better sneak, at the cost of just 1175 stamina and 173 stamina regen and poison resist. Sure, you can run 10% faster when you dodgeroll and you get a little bit of penetration but unless you get snared, you would only waste stamina. Besides, you still can't outrun an Orc sprinting after you, no matter how much you dodgeroll.

    Because I leveled one :p
    Like you want to say it will be unplayable? Can't be real. I think they want to sell some adventurers packs and crowns. Yes, they will give us 3 free change tokens, but for some who has 12+ chars it's like lol. So I'm not focusing on it. Just chilling. You know, I agree, but they're not listening, trying to find some positive moments.

    And it works. And yes, still think we need some changes for pve.
    Edited by ruikkarikun on February 25, 2019 2:21AM
  • ruikkarikun
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Stealth in PVE had zero effect. New passive is not so much better but hey, it's not stealth for pve xd. And yes, I think bosmer nb will be good in PVP.

    Stealth is used in PVE and PVP. Stealth Detect is PVP only.

    Mb for RP or some (about pve). But how stealth helps bosmer in trials or dungeons? xDD
    While they're not going to split between pvp/pve I know it's hard, but someone mb want to play bosmer in pve (why not??)
  • TankHealz2015
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    From the response, I'd guess they plan to develop a DLC involving lots of stealth NPC/mobs... so probably stealth detection will be a good thing in the future PvE.

    Still curious to the racials of Bosmer vs Khajiit; why not something like this:

    Bosmer = reduced sneaking radius by 3 and increased stealth detection radius by 5 amount.

    Khajiit = increased sneak movement speed by 3 and increased detection radius by 5 amount

    adjust the numbers to be balance and fair... but you get the point.

  • Ratzkifal
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    Wait the stealthy race from single player Skyrim will lose the one aspect wood elfs are good at

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    @Cpt_Teemo Yes, and it's a shame nobody except this little thread is talking about it. Maybe it's because the wording is so similar to the old passive that people think it's still the same. Well it's not. The stealth race will now only be the stam race that gets an almost negligible dodgeroll passive and some poison resistance only werewolfs care about.
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • BlueRaven
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    From the response, I'd guess they plan to develop a DLC involving lots of stealth NPC/mobs... so probably stealth detection will be a good thing in the future PvE.

    Still curious to the racials of Bosmer vs Khajiit; why not something like this:

    Bosmer = reduced sneaking radius by 3 and increased stealth detection radius by 5 amount.

    Khajiit = increased sneak movement speed by 3 and increased detection radius by 5 amount

    adjust the numbers to be balance and fair... but you get the point.


    This is true, but we don't know when. It could be soon, it could be a few years from now. Anyway we are playing in the here and now, and future plans can change.
  • ruikkarikun
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    But yes, while I do think that focusing on the good parts is important, when you take the stealth out of Bosmer, that's kind of a big deal that not even BiS status could fix. Or would you like if Altmer suddenly had no magicka passives anymore?
    I can admit I forgot about thieves/brotherhood DLC and RPing there:)
    And Altmer had sustain passive which was changed for stamina, so same insane thing, well idk what we can do here.

  • D0PAMINE
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    Stealthing is easy on all races. I've yet to see someone complain about getting detected easily. The stealth detection replacement however, is nothing special and needs to be changed. No way im race changing my Bosmer.
  • thedude33
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    In order to get beyond this, we must first take account of race. There is no other way. And in order to treat some classes equally, we must treat them differently.
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    thedude33 wrote: »
    In order to get beyond this, we must first take account of race. There is no other way. And in order to treat some classes equally, we must treat them differently.

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