Oceanic Lag now 300-400 ms even with a vpn - was 250-300??

MrGarlic

My latest trace-route shows a direct path to the USA now with a ping in what I can only figure is California being 198ms.

HOWEVER, my in-game ping is 330-350ms.

No idea what Akamai is doing with my data when it hits the USA.

CH77

Yeah I can't recommend Aussie BB enough. They might not be the cheapest (but certainly aren't the most expensive) but they've been awesome since I've been with them for the last 3 years.

CH77

MrGarlic wrote: »

My latest trace-route shows a direct path to the USA now with a ping in what I can only figure is California being 198ms.

HOWEVER, my in-game ping is 330-350ms.

No idea what Akamai is doing with my data when it hits the USA.

May I ask how I can run a trace route myself?
Would be interesting to see if we have any differences.

MrGarlic

To run a trace route;

Type CMD in 'RUN' in windows or your operating sytem of choice. (Open a command line interface.)

Type: TRACERT 198.100.198.20

Press ENTER

It will default to 30 hops. Time outs are indicative of Akamai equipment not replying and need not be concerned about.

jcm2606

When a *** Australian ISP does your job for you, the phrase "you *** up" doesn't even begin to describe how much you've *** up. Christ.

Seri

MrGarlic wrote: »

To run a trace route;

Type CMD in 'RUN' in windows or your operating sytem of choice. (Open a command line interface.)

Type: TRACERT 198.100.198.20

Press ENTER

It will default to 30 hops. Time outs are indicative of Akamai equipment not replying and need not be concerned about.

198.100 is the wrong prefix. I use 198.20.200.73 (which is also what Mudfish use).

CH77

Thanks @MrGarlic and @Seri
I'll do it when I get home after gig 😊

MrGarlic

Seri wrote: »

MrGarlic wrote: »

To run a trace route;

Type CMD in 'RUN' in windows or your operating sytem of choice. (Open a command line interface.)

Type: TRACERT 198.100.198.20

Press ENTER

It will default to 30 hops. Time outs are indicative of Akamai equipment not replying and need not be concerned about.

198.100 is the wrong prefix. I use 198.20.200.73 (which is also what Mudfish use).

You're right. It's changed sine I last checked. I got he 198.100.xxx.xxx IP range from an ESO test file. My resource monitor shows ESO.exe is now connecting to 198.20.200.26

So I ran another TRACERT and lo-and-behold, still going through Hong Kong.




Still passing through Australia and Hong Kong and whereever 98.191.173.93 is. (Probably Europe going by the ping.)

So yeah, the path is the longest way around the world from NZ to the USA.

That is why Akamai is a steaming POS.

[INSERT SAD FACE HERE]

Lelldorano

MrGarlic wrote: »

Seri wrote: »

MrGarlic wrote: »

To run a trace route;

Type CMD in 'RUN' in windows or your operating sytem of choice. (Open a command line interface.)

Type: TRACERT 198.100.198.20

Press ENTER

It will default to 30 hops. Time outs are indicative of Akamai equipment not replying and need not be concerned about.

198.100 is the wrong prefix. I use 198.20.200.73 (which is also what Mudfish use).

You're right. It's changed sine I last checked. I got he 198.100.xxx.xxx IP range from an ESO test file. My resource monitor shows ESO.exe is now connecting to 198.20.200.26

So I ran another TRACERT and lo-and-behold, still going through Hong Kong.




Still passing through Australia and Hong Kong and whereever 93.191.173.93 is. (Probably Europe going by the ping.)

So yeah, the path is the longest way around the world from NZ to the USA.

That is why Akamai is a steaming POS.

[INSERT SAD FACE HERE]

93.191.173.93 is in the Netherlands! I get the same result, on Spark NZ fibre.

Rezdayn

StackonClown wrote: »

Hi,

In in Australia - and my lag is way worse than a few months ago (took a break) - anyone else face this also?
I wonder if its local or a global issue ?

At release I was getting like 250 now im 350+ and some days its 999 and literally unplayable.

They dont care about us. Simple.

CH77

@MrGarlic @Seri

All those numbers, which should I use for Tracert?
198.20.200.73
or
198.20.200.26?

My resource monitor shows the launcher a number of times with the Remote addresses 180.150.1.75, 198.20.198.110 and 198.20.198.100
Upon starting the game I get 206.80.46.186 and an eso64.exe entry 192.20.200.25 and .30
When character loggedin there's a new one with 192.20.200.33

Sorry I have no idea what all this means.... I just thought it would be interesting to compare our results...

MrGarlic

CH77 wrote: »

@MrGarlic @Seri

<SNIP>

All those numbers, which should I use for Tracert?

eso64.exe entry

<SNIP>

Try the one that comes up with the ESO.exe

Seri

CH77 wrote: »

All those numbers, which should I use for Tracert?
198.20.200.73
or
198.20.200.26?

My resource monitor shows the launcher a number of times with the Remote addresses 180.150.1.75, 198.20.198.110 and 198.20.198.100
Upon starting the game I get 206.80.46.186 and an eso64.exe entry 192.20.200.25 and .30
When character loggedin there's a new one with 192.20.200.33

Sorry I have no idea what all this means.... I just thought it would be interesting to compare our results...

Any in the 198.20.200.x range is fine. The .73 in my case will at least finish rather than timing out like other hops.

jimijac0me

Seri wrote: »

To any Aussie Broadband customers here, we're now taking the direct route to USA

They recently put in their own links to both Singapore and USA and after that occurred, and after a little bit of communication back and forward, they were kind enough to manually blacklist the NA ESO IP range from being routed to HK. It is a bit of a kludge on their part, but it's great they were willing to help out.

ZOS still isn't out of fault here as they still should be able to work something out with Akamai that doesn't involve AU/NZ ISPs manually tweaking their BGP routes, but it's an improvement for some of us.

(Sidenote, any ABB people here in Victoria may still be routing the long way as the international rollout isn't completely enabled in Victoria yet - rest of the country, we're good to go).

Thanks for mentioning this - I was just commenting in my guild discord how my ping improved the last few days - down to 275-290 last night!

ABB have eliminated Akami for us and what a surprise - pre-Akami ping

aetherial_heavenn

MrGarlic wrote: »

Seri wrote: »

MrGarlic wrote: »

To run a trace route;

Type CMD in 'RUN' in windows or your operating sytem of choice. (Open a command line interface.)

Type: TRACERT 198.100.198.20

Press ENTER

It will default to 30 hops. Time outs are indicative of Akamai equipment not replying and need not be concerned about.

198.100 is the wrong prefix. I use 198.20.200.73 (which is also what Mudfish use).

You're right. It's changed sine I last checked. I got he 198.100.xxx.xxx IP range from an ESO test file. My resource monitor shows ESO.exe is now connecting to 198.20.200.26

So I ran another TRACERT and lo-and-behold, still going through Hong Kong.




Still passing through Australia and Hong Kong and whereever 98.191.173.93 is. (Probably Europe going by the ping.)

So yeah, the path is the longest way around the world from NZ to the USA.

That is why Akamai is a steaming POS.

[INSERT SAD FACE HERE]

Yep. me too..... and a bump to keep it going.

MattT1988

Every zone I went to. Load screen and crashes last night. This is pathetic.

MattT1988

Down to page 7? Hmm we can’t have that. Back to the top we go.

MrGarlic

I am forever hopeful that one day, ZOS will not renew their contract with Akamai.

Hopefully it runs out soon and they can get better DDoS protection, something better for gamers.

Bobby_V_Rockit

Are any of the trials stable enough for Oceana to play yet? I really would like to take part, havent been able to since Halls Of Fabrication was introduced

lokulin

Out of interest I tried logging in at my parents place. They also have a 100/40 FttH connection but a different provider. Ping was 730+ to the NA server. They live a bit more rural but even still other games are not as bad. Fortnite to the OCE region was 40ms.

GeorgeBlack

MrGarlic wrote: »

StackonClown wrote: »

Hi,

OP here again - the ping is getting pretty bad for me now, consistently over 300ms.
Out of interest, which VPNs have people tried? I used mudcrab(fish).

I use Mudfish and I get pretty good pings with occasional spikes, on parity with what I got prior to the Akamai fiasco of last September (still current.)

I did use BattlePing previously but Mudfish seems to be better value for money as I have cut down my ESO playtime considerably since dropping subscription due to the ping issue.

I use a Mudfish server on the West Coast USA, so hopefully close to where the route disappears into Akamai West Coast scrubbers.

YMMV.

@MrGarlic
Hey still using Mudfish?
Do you find that Nodes tend to go slower randomly? Have you found one that you are happy with?

chaz

It's been a while since I've posted in this tread. Since then, All I can say is prior to March things got better for me, then to far and in between while living in a guest house, and able to game 30 minutes a day early in the morning before work 3 or 4 times a week to maybe 2 to 3 times a week, things are still good. I don't know I'f I'm going through Akamai though.

Heady

im setting this thread a new target of 35 pages

chaz

Heady wrote: »

im setting this thread a new target of 35 pages

40 by October 2019

MrGarlic

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

MrGarlic wrote: »

StackonClown wrote: »

Hi,

OP here again - the ping is getting pretty bad for me now, consistently over 300ms.
Out of interest, which VPNs have people tried? I used mudcrab(fish).

I use Mudfish and I get pretty good pings with occasional spikes, on parity with what I got prior to the Akamai fiasco of last September (still current.)

I did use BattlePing previously but Mudfish seems to be better value for money as I have cut down my ESO playtime considerably since dropping subscription due to the ping issue.

I use a Mudfish server on the West Coast USA, so hopefully close to where the route disappears into Akamai West Coast scrubbers.

YMMV.

@MrGarlic
Hey still using Mudfish?
Do you find that Nodes tend to go slower randomly? Have you found one that you are happy with?

I use a Californian node. There is an Akamai server there so it makes sense to make landfall as close as possible to it.

So Los Angeles, Fremont or San Jose are all viable.

As for stability, because the ping is so high (+200) any small changes will be exacerbated.

For example, if your ping to a server was 50ms and it varied by 10%, then it would alternate between 45 and 55ms. (Total of 10ms variation)
If your ping is 250ms, then 10% equates to a large variation between 225 and 275ms. (Total of 50ms variation.)

Your own local traffic, your ISPs traffic, international backhaul and any VPN node will be affected by traffic density due to time of day, popularity etc, so expect some variation in ping times.

GeorgeBlack

Eso ping is a strange case but also Australian ISP isnt so good.
I see a lot of unhappy reviews with NBN.
Back with Telstra 2 years ago, Sydney Southeast and Id struggle to maintain 4mbps.

Not sure who to go with now that I am back.

Androconium

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Eso ping is a strange case but also Australian ISP isnt so good.
I see a lot of unhappy reviews with NBN.
Back with Telstra 2 years ago, Sydney Southeast and Id struggle to maintain 4mbps.

Not sure who to go with TO now that I am back.

The Honourable Paul Fletcher MP, Minister for Communication, Cyber Safety and the Arts

GeorgeBlack

Androconium wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Eso ping is a strange case but also Australian ISP isnt so good.
I see a lot of unhappy reviews with NBN.
Back with Telstra 2 years ago, Sydney Southeast and Id struggle to maintain 4mbps.

Not sure who to go with TO now that I am back.

The Honourable Paul Fletcher MP, Minister for Communication, Cyber Safety and the Arts

Are you happy with it?
Who do you use and what was your difference with ESO ping?

gronoxvx

With all the upcoming changes and people leaving it may make our ping a little better

/sarcasm

lokulin

Slightly off topic but I feel like a mini-rant right now. Logged in today to run a quick vet dungeon before dinner. Got put in to the same group failing half way through vDoM four times. Three times on tank and once on heals. Seems to me that the number of players on during OCE times has really bottomed out to the point where there is basically nobody else queuing at certain times of the day. What a joke. Suffice to say after pissing around for half an hour I just closed the game and came here to rant.