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Oceanic Lag now 300-400 ms even with a vpn - was 250-300??

  • jcm2606
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Zenimax has absolutely nothing to say about this? Absolutely disgusting. The entire company should be ashamed at delivering a product that performs so poorly in the OCE region that we're forced to pay for a third-party VPN just to get the ping we had 2 years ago.
  • Red_Feather
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    I think something is up all over. I haven't gotten bad lag in a while and tonight ping was 200-500 with 999+ spikes. I took a break to play warframe and watch netflix and then came back later in day to play ESO again and it was still crazy ping.

    Edited by Red_Feather on February 28, 2019 4:38AM
  • NoMoreChillies
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    jcm2606 wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Zenimax has absolutely nothing to say about this? Absolutely disgusting. The entire company should be ashamed at delivering a product that performs so poorly in the OCE region that we're forced to pay for a third-party VPN just to get the ping we had 2 years ago.

    agree +1
    Insulting people on the internet is cowardly.
  • CH77
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  • Genomic
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    jcm2606 wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Zenimax has absolutely nothing to say about this? Absolutely disgusting. The entire company should be ashamed at delivering a product that performs so poorly in the OCE region that we're forced to pay for a third-party VPN just to get the ping we had 2 years ago.

    I agree. ESO and all chapters have been advertised here in Aus on the side of city buses, FFS. They're widely marketing a product in a region where they know the performance will be considerably suboptimal and that they deliberately won't support, in the form of local servers, etc. It's borderline fraudulent.
  • ConeOfSilence
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    AU player here, I have not renewed my sub and haven't played in several months, tired of the 300+ ping.
  • IzzyStardust
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    Damn it how’d this get in recent?! Necro’d please ignore
    Edited by IzzyStardust on February 28, 2019 10:59AM
  • CH77
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    Yep it has gotten progressively worse with each update.

    Pre-Summerset my ping was 220-235.
    Murkmire pushed it to 270-285. I cancelled sub here.
    Wrathstone has now put it at 300-317

    I was looking forward to re-subbing and playing again when Elsweyr drops.
    Got excited and wanted to start getting back into it now...

    By using Mudfish VPN I can get PR back to 250ish but that's not the point. Just as JCM2606 said - why should we "pay for a third-party VPN just to get the ping we had 2 years ago" ?!!?

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
  • CH77
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    @IzzyStardust Still totally relevant!
  • IzzyStardust
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    CH77 wrote: »
    @IzzyStardust Still totally relevant!

    Well my ping UK player on NA, is up to 250avg from 185-200
  • NoMoreChillies
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    CH77 wrote: »
    @IzzyStardust Still totally relevant!

    Well my ping UK player on NA, is up to 250avg from 185-200

    imagine having Akami route you thru Asia to USA. thats what OC players have
    Insulting people on the internet is cowardly.
  • Jameliel
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    Same story in East Asia. Like a few others, cancelled sub, and barely play now.
  • IzzyStardust
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    CH77 wrote: »
    @IzzyStardust Still totally relevant!

    Well my ping UK player on NA, is up to 250avg from 185-200

    imagine having Akami route you thru Asia to USA. thats what OC players have

    I play mainly with oce/au folks so I know how it is for them.
  • Rylisin
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    Well my ping UK player on NA, is up to 250avg from 185-200

    Well that's the thing. You are UK player, so you're not even in our area to begin with and thus this issue wont / isn't affecting you.

    This thread isn't a nerco either, it's a serious issue that's been affecting the entire oceanic player-base for months and has been on-going since before Nerfmire dropped. It's still happening and it's getting worse while ZOS has completely ignored us (instead favoring replies to threads like dungeon motifs not dropping), which is something you would of noted had you bothered to read the rest of the recent comments here. :disappointed:

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  • IzzyStardust
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    Ryzakier wrote: »
    Well my ping UK player on NA, is up to 250avg from 185-200

    Well that's the thing. You are UK player, so you're not even in our area to begin with and thus this issue wont / isn't affecting you.

    This thread isn't a nerco either, it's a serious issue that's been affecting the entire oceanic player-base for months and has been on-going since before Nerfmire dropped. It's still happening and it's getting worse while ZOS has completely ignored us (instead favoring replies to threads like dungeon motifs not dropping), which is something you would of noted had you bothered to read the rest of the recent comments here. :disappointed:

    No you misunderstand me because first of all: I thought *I* necroed the thread and was berating myself - not anyone else and I AM having issues with it - like I have played on NA since Beta and never had ping like I do now.

    Because for some reason, the only post before mine was in October - but on reload all the recent ones showed.

    Yes, I would HAVE noticed if the forum hadn't played up.

    Don't go all crazy because you are misunderstanding what happened. Just ask. Then flip out. :)
    Edited by IzzyStardust on March 1, 2019 10:25AM
  • Kheops
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    So is the ping ever going down? ESO has by far the highest ping out of any game I play for some reason and it makes it unplayable
  • MrGarlic
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    It won't change unless ZOS asks Akamai to optimise routing for Oceania to avoid the Asian bottleneck in Hong Kong or ZOS just stops utilising Akamai for DDoS protection.

    ZOS most likely won't reply to this thread as it discusses security issues with the game, ie; DDoS protection. As evidenced by previous DDoS attacks on ESO, I can not see ZOS changing their policy any time soon.

    Many of us affected have either moved on to other games or rarely play ESO now, because of the increased latency introduced when Akamai opened it's Hong Kong Prolexic DDoS scrubbers last September and our data was forced onto that route through China to the USA, instead of the more direct route across the Pacific.

    I keep monitoring it but nothing changes.
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  • Durian
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    Logged in recently to ESO to check things out. Lag is still there 300+ms from NZ.
  • SaucyMcSauceface
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    Just keeping this thread active.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    can we please get a response to this? When people in chat can complain that the game is 'unplayable' if the ping goes over 100, trying to compete when you are fighting a ping that hovers between 300 and 400, often leaves you staring at a screen where you are lying dead clearly outside of the AOE that supposedly killed you. If I ping the area of the NA server directly, I get a result of 170ish, so we are not expecting that you can defy the laws of physics and give us a sub-100 ping, but surely something can be done to account for the other 200m/s that pinging the game server seems to introduce.

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    Just keeping this thread active.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    can we please get a response to this? When people in chat can complain that the game is 'unplayable' if the ping goes over 100, trying to compete when you are fighting a ping that hovers between 300 and 400, often leaves you staring at a screen where you are lying dead clearly outside of the AOE that supposedly killed you. If I ping the area of the NA server directly, I get a result of 170ish, so we are not expecting that you can defy the laws of physics and give us a sub-100 ping, but surely something can be done to account for the other 200m/s that pinging the game server seems to introduce.

    An response is i also have been trying to raise awareness which you may or may not have seen (including an link to an petiton for me average is 310 ms both EU and NA servers and thats as a pacific Au/NZ Player.
  • CH77
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    I’m still in the same boat as you all too and completely agree.
    What I don’t get is why the latency increases by 20-30 as each patch is released...
    Edited by CH77 on March 6, 2019 6:08AM
  • Undefwun
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    Yup pretty bad.. VPN to Austin from Sydney to avoid the stupid Akaimai routing and I can get 277 standing around.. but BGs are like 340-350 min....
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  • IzzyStardust
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    For me it is more and more unplayable. I already play OFF my own peak because latency + people in my home actually using the internet = LOL unplayable. I mostly do end game stuff with a little meandering/looting/farming mixed in, and this is just worse and worse.
  • MattT1988
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    Your silence is deafening admins and devs. We pay for better then this. This really isn’t good enough and your just continuing to ignore it. Poor form.
  • Darkstorne
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    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Your silence is deafening admins and devs. We pay for better then this. This really isn’t good enough and your just continuing to ignore it. Poor form.

    I'm sure the fix is coming alongside the DX12 engine upgrade they promised and the fixes to jumping mechanics and Cyrodiil lag...
  • MattT1988
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    Have they seriously still not even commented or addressed these issues in any way? It’s a serious question, I seriously cannot find any comment from them about the state of the game in Oceania. Way to spit in the face of your loyal playerbase in Oceania. Getting really sick of being ignored.
  • SaucyMcSauceface
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    Hi everyone. First of all, you aren't wrong. We agree we haven't been communicating as much as we should on this matter (among others) and for that, we apologize. There really is no excuse.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno It would be be nice if we could at least get an acknowledgement that someone has been reading this thread too. I would suggest that it is one of the 'others' that you refer to. Even if the response is that you are aware of the problem, but not sure yet how to fix it. Even if the response is that You understand that an oceanic server would solve a bunch of the problems, but that there is not the demand to justify the cost. Even if it is just a "hi" we hear you.

    Just something would be nice.
  • lelink88
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    up until they notice
  • LadyLethalla
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    I quit my sub in January and have barely been back. Been playing Anthem. Have had one death due to lag, so far, in hours of play. Contrast that to my last group content in ESO... If I come back to ESO for Elsweyr it won't be for group content, that's for sure.
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  • Hiruda
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    jcm2606 wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Zenimax has absolutely nothing to say about this? Absolutely disgusting. The entire company should be ashamed at delivering a product that performs so poorly in the OCE region that we're forced to pay for a third-party VPN just to get the ping we had 2 years ago.

    At the latest news, its EU and NA server, not OCE
    be happy they didnt ip lock it at the first place, stop quit the whining and accept the fact you have to play on a far away server
    I play lost ark on korean server, do you see me crying on their forum about having a bad ping in Eu, while im clearly aware im playing on a KR server ? no you dont, because im not a kid that cant read properly and then blame the company for my own dumbness
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