Oceanic Lag now 300-400 ms even with a vpn - was 250-300??

GlorphNoldorin

Bhaal5 wrote: »

My questions is, Why bother with a game where you have to use a 3rd party service to get mediocre results? Yes anything in the SEA region is going to get lag, but there is normal and then there is eso.

When (for the pc guys) there a heaps better mmos that out perform eso by years (performance and content) and all you have to do is 'log on'. No third party vpn needed

Trouble is we have played a game that was:

• still works on levels that are not competitive
• still has some of the best action combat available (when lag is reasonable)
• have learned to make do at semi competitive levels
  (eg vma- I have flawless on 4 classes [3 stam] cleared all dlc hm on tank. cleared vBRP)
  (can still pvp and be competitive somewhat except against good players who clearly have low latency)
• friends in guilds
• having invested so much time in learning this game
• too stubborn
• not any game comparable to ESO

but your point is well made and I am actively hoping Ashes of Creation will continue to be the next great hope

Bhaal5

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

My questions is, Why bother with a game where you have to use a 3rd party service to get mediocre results? Yes anything in the SEA region is going to get lag, but there is normal and then there is eso.

When (for the pc guys) there a heaps better mmos that out perform eso by years (performance and content) and all you have to do is 'log on'. No third party vpn needed

Trouble is we have played a game that was:

• still works on levels that are not competitive
• still has some of the best action combat available (when lag is reasonable)
• have learned to make do at semi competitive levels
  (eg vma- I have flawless on 4 classes [3 stam] cleared all dlc hm on tank. cleared vBRP)
  (can still pvp and be competitive somewhat except against good players who clearly have low latency)
• friends in guilds
• having invested so much time in learning this game
• too stubborn
• not any game comparable to ESO

but your point is well made and I am actively hoping Ashes of Creation will continue to be the next great hope

But guild wars 2 has everything eso has, just polished and finished off. Not to mention the loads more content it offers aswell. But best of all, arenanet looks after its oceanic community and we can get a stable 180-220 ping even in a packed meta event (something else would know as it donts offer content like this). Along with zero maintenance (they know how to fun a server).
Just the console guys cant experience what a mmo should be and stuck with this thing called eso

NoMoreChillies

MilwaukeeScott wrote: »

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

Its clear to see on so many levels that ZOS cares for little but profitability(I can understand that) and it is almost certain that the continued decline of Oceania participation will continue.

Again,


I curious as to why you guys think that ZOS controls how your internet service provider routes your data?

ZOS uses Akami to scrub packets preventing DDOS attacks.

Akami OC traffic is directed through China/Hong Kong/Netherlands not straight pipe to USA which causes extra ping and massive spikes 999+.

This was all explained and proof shown earlier in the thread with trace routes.

ZOS ignores it all.

MilwaukeeScott

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

ZOS uses Akami to scrub packets preventing DDOS attacks.

Akami OC traffic is directed through China/Hong Kong/Netherlands not straight pipe to USA which causes extra ping and massive spikes 999+.

This was all explained and proof shown earlier in the thread with trace routes.

ZOS ignores it all.

Thank you for the info

GlorphNoldorin

But guild wars 2 has everything eso has, just polished and finished off. Not to mention the loads more content it offers aswell. But best of all, arenanet looks after its oceanic community and we can get a stable 180-220 ping even in a packed meta event (something else would know as it donts offer content like this). Along with zero maintenance (they know how to fun a server).
Just the console guys cant experience what a mmo should be and stuck with this thing called eso[/quote]

I have tried Guild wars, the combat....for me just does not compare to ESO

Bhaal5

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

But guild wars 2 has everything eso has, just polished and finished off. Not to mention the loads more content it offers aswell. But best of all, arenanet looks after its oceanic community and we can get a stable 180-220 ping even in a packed meta event (something else would know as it donts offer content like this). Along with zero maintenance (they know how to fun a server).
Just the console guys cant experience what a mmo should be and stuck with this thing called eso

I have tried Guild wars, the combat....for me just does not compare to ESO[/quote]

Yeah, it doesnt lag

Coggo

A Merry Christmas to all my fellow Antipodeans! May your latency approach the white numbers and your disconnects be a lot less frequent.

MrGarlic

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

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I have tried Guild wars, the combat....for me just does not compare to ESO

Agreed.

ESO combat is much better. However Guild Wars 2 is better in pretty much every other aspect. After playing GW2 for a bit, coming back to check on latency on ESO makes ESO feel incomplete and very outdated.

It's probably that way so it looks and plays the same on the older hardware of consoles as it it does on newer PCs. (That's my guess.)

CH77

Due to all the necromancer threads I am resurrecting this one to see if any AU lag improvements have occurred since Xmas...

Rylisin

@CH77 - It's still abysmal as it was around Christmas and pre Nerfmire. I'm pretty sure most of us Oceanic players have moved on to other games given how quiet people are about it now. I know I have, i barely do much in eso anymore.

ZoS hasn't responded and they likely wont, so I am personally waiting for next patch to see if they fix it then but my expectations are low.

CH77

Such a shame.
I unsubbed and uninstalled a while back due to this.
Was hoping to come back at some point once I’ve finished Zelda BOTW but sounds like this won’t be fixed for a long time

Rylisin

The only reason I'm still playing a tiny bit is so I can finish up Summerset which i paid for. I don't care about nerfmire and dealing with huge spikes and lag when trying to talk to a npc just drains whatever fun the game had left.

Once I'm done with that, its back to my other games because at least I can play those with my friends. I uninstalled ESO off my laptop and I'm weighing up doing it on my main PC too if nothing improves.

CH77

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA
Any feedback?????

NoMoreChillies

c'mon devs, this issue is not getting swept under the rug

MrGarlic

ZOS should be aware of the problem as it has been highlighted to them verbally during promo tours and through fault tickets, so either:

1. It's too hard to fix or not possible currently.
2. They have chosen not to fix.

Either way, I doubt ZOS will fix it so I moved on to another game where I get 220ms ping to USA servers. (I used to get 220-230 to ESO, but since Sep 2019 I get ~350ms)

I still pop in to ESO from time to time as I do like the game, but the extra ping has rendered end-game content unreachable to me know. (Vet trials.) My parse dropped significantly to the point where I couldn't maintain my guilds minimum requirements.

No problem though as I found another game that is much better managed and refined, has less bugs and actually seems like it's finished and not still in Beta, like ESO.

Bhaal5

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

c'mon devs, this issue is not getting swept under the rug

They have been doing pretty well so far. We're just the time zone they dont care about.

LadyLethalla

I quit ESO+ and haven't even bothered logging in since I got the 100k daily reward... Elswyr might tempt me back. Maybe. Probably for nothing more than the story though.

But I am going to try Anthem this weekend during the free demo. Looks amazing. Flying! And capes!!

ElliottXO

Around 250ms from China with VPN, going up and down like crazy.

Funny thing is that if you ping the server via command you get stable 180ms. So the game adds 50-100ms not explained by travel distance.

LordGavus

Still getting 360-400 with frequent patches spent around 450.
This compared to 290-330 this time last year.

Yvarhna

Doing Summerset at the moment and the highest I'm going is 360 - 400ping as opposed to 999+ early December when I first came back to the game. Most of the time I'm at a steady 290 - 300 ping which I can cope fine with. I was actually surprised when doing pvp that I didn't spike as bad as what I thought I would so I'm going to say it's manageable for me at the moment.

I will say though that with the many online games I play, ESO has to be one of the laggiest, but I love the game too much to give up on it now after taking a long break from it. I supposed the bonus for me is my husband and I can do the majority of content as a duo, so less grouping up also helps with the lag.

Mr_Walker

Tried explaining how lag affects rotations the other night to a guildie, he coudn't really understand it.

lokulin

Yep, my ping is still 340+ up from sub 300 a few years back. It is more unstable too. People will say "stop whining" and "get good" but the increased latency definitely makes no death, hard mode and PvP achievements harder. Not even interested in trying vet BRP as the one attempt I did have the whole team was having lattency problems causing lots of unnecessary wipes. Same goes for cloudrest. As an achievement hunter it is a real dampner on my enthusiasm. Let my ESO+ expire and will probably buy the chapter update but not the dungeon DLC because I'm just not interested in even harder content and mechancis while the lag is so bad. Still searching for a place to take my money so any suggestions welcome.

Lightbane

I just checked my latency it says 388ms I didn't even realise it was this bad because I haven't noticed any signs of lag. All game functions work perfectly fine as if normal, except for my warden bear which I thought was just simply bugged. And the VPN does nothing to fix it, so I guess ZOS just doesn't want our money seeing as they're refusing to fix the problem they've caused.

NoMoreChillies

ElliottXO wrote: »

Around 250ms from China with VPN, going up and down like crazy.

Funny thing is that if you ping the server via command you get stable 180ms. So the game adds 50-100ms not explained by travel distance.

ZOS uses Akami to scrub the packets. Akami routes asia through The Netherlands. Hence extra 100 ping.

This really needs fixing

Lightbane

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

ElliottXO wrote: »

Around 250ms from China with VPN, going up and down like crazy.

Funny thing is that if you ping the server via command you get stable 180ms. So the game adds 50-100ms not explained by travel distance.

ZOS uses Akami to scrub the packets. Akami routes asia through The Netherlands. Hence extra 100 ping.

This really needs fixing

It won't be because as I can see by this thread its been broken for months and ZoS seems to be just flat out ignoring their critical bugs

Mickydanz

Here's my hope with the failure which was fallout 76 Bethesda needs to make money and the only thing they have going for them is ESO, If that starts losing customers over performance and lag issues, They might wake the firetruck up and pull their fingers out of the honey jar.

IKIK when does the next game come out?

CH77

So - ping has gotten worse now Wrathstone has been released!
Now up and down between 286 and 319
Honestly!

NoMoreChillies

Money talks $$$
I guess OC money is not good enough.

Rylisin

So its the same / worse after patch? Guess I'm not surprised. It's been a while since I last
bothered to log on. ZOS doesn't care about us - that much is clear to see now, it's been months
and 10+ pages on the forum and not a single response or any form of acknowledgment about
our issues.

Good job ZOS, I've moved off to another game now and wont be coming back
would rather spend my hard earned money on something I can actually play.

Exodium

Lag is a *** joke right now on PS4 NA vivec. Can't even dodge roll into vivec. *** pathetic excuse of a company and I have a perfect connection that gives me 200ms on any other game yet your poor excuse of a game I get 300-400. *** YOU