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Jewelry crafting: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

stitchesofdooom
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I'd say "platings are comically rare" but there's nothing funny about it.

Nobody can do even 10% of the Jewelry Master Writs we get becuase there are just far too few platings.
And why does deconstructing a piece of jewelry only return a single grain... if you're lucky? You should at least get a plating back.

STOP IT with the grains already. We need at the absolute least 10 times the platings we have to be able to do these GDMF Master Writs. Jewelry crafting is the absolute worst grind in any MMO that ever existed.

[Edit to remove demands]

[edit re: edit] Am I allowed to "strongly insist" that Zenimax fixes this system so that plating gathering becomes much more like other crafting skills?

Changes that need to be made:

*Deconstructed jewelry should return platings, not grains.
*Purple and gold platings should be rewarded for completing jewelry writs.
*Ideally, pulverised trait stones and grains should be replaced with whole trait stones and platings.
*Give us a Jewelry Hireling.
*Increace the chance of non-jewelry Master Writs: we seem to be getting more jewelry MW than any of the others.
*99% of non-JC master writs are now for less than 10 vouchers: fix this immediately.
*Increace the chance of trait jewelry drops from daily crafting writs and include all new traits the JC sytem introduced.
*Take PvP-exclusive jewelry trait drops out of PvP exclusivity. Some of us came for the PvE. Just make certain kinds of jewelry more likely to drop in certain situations.
*Allow us to decon all pre-JC jewelry. You stopped us to keep from hoarding before the system was added but now there are still jewelry pieces floating about that we should be able to decon. This is painfully unimmersive. MxR would be disgusted. Zenimax needs Immersion Scientists asap.
*Add Jeweler NPC and Jeweler's sign.
*Allow us to decon exemplaries.
Edited by stitchesofdooom on February 16, 2019 12:37AM
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  • idk
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    Personally, I agree that jewelry writs are not worth it, the cost is still to high but that may change over time. I think they changes Zos made a couple months ago which reduced the required matts to upgrade was a desirable change. It permits Zos to keep jewelry crafting more special than the rest of the crafting as they stated was their intent but makes it more obtainable.

    So, for now I suggest not doing jewelry crafting master writs.

    [Minor edit to remove mention of removed content]
    Edited by ZOS_AntonioP on September 25, 2018 5:02PM
    Really, idk
  • Starlock
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    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Lol, who even uses this system for anything else than transmuting dropped jewellery.

    I would certainly like to, given transmute crystals do not exist outside of PvP or group content and are therefore something I obtain very infrequently. Instrad, they made the system basically unusable. Still haven’t crafted anything.
    Edited by Starlock on September 25, 2018 5:35PM
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  • Feric51
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    qbit wrote: »
    Jewlery master writs we’re buffed to make cost per writ voucher more in line with the other master writs. All that matters is gold cost per writ voucher. Which is crafting cost divided by voucher payout on the master writ. It should be between 0 and ~600 gold per voucher. If it is more than that or you feel you can’t craft the master writ, sell the master writ.

    When I sell a master writ, I like to make the same money as if I did craft it. So I price them so cost for master writ plus craft cost divided by number of writ vouchers equals about 1000 gold. Smart players won’t buy them. Players desperate for writ vouchers will (begrudgingly) buy the master writ so they can craft it.

    You should only be buying master writs that are max of like 600 gold per voucher. Best you can do is convert vouchers to tangible goods and sell that at rate of 1000 gold per voucher.

    There are addons to help with all this.

    Your mileage may vary. Don’t flame me please.

    I follow this train of thought. If I receive a master writ during in turn in, I won't do it unless I can calculate the material cost to be less than 1,000 gold per writ voucher. I aim for 500-700 ideally. This is why I often sell the legendary blacksmithing/woodowkring master writs in that 40-55 w.v. range.

    When purchasing master writs from traders, I target the epic ones priced at 500 per voucher or less. I have a slew of purple tempers and exponentially more of blue and green, so I really don't factor in a cost for the lower tier temps as I will never run out.

    My favorite ones are the epic nirnhoned shields or leather armors master writs in the 17-20 range. The return on investment for those is tremendous.
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  • WrathOfInnos
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    The jewelry writs do need to get better rewards.

    As far as rarity though, I think platings are actually ok. One chromium playing on PC NA is worth about 75k. So to upgrade a piece of jewelry from purple to gold costs 300k. That’s not much over the 250k that gold jewelry costs at the Golden, and you don’t have to wait years for your desired set to show up for sale. If it gets much cheaper then there will be no point in having the Golden vendor.
  • Skander
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    Only people with summerset can refine jewlery. So yeah. That happens
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  • stitchesofdooom
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    Skander wrote: »
    Only people with summerset can refine jewlery. So yeah. That happens

    Yeah, really should be base game tbf. Poor Base Game Only noobs...
    Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
    Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
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  • Wreuntzylla
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    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Lol, who even uses this system for anything else than transmuting dropped jewellery.

    It could have been nice, but the grain stuff makes it such a grind abomination, I didn't even bother to level it on my crafter.

    I do. Extensively.

    I have so many more alts that need jewelry achievement completion...
  • f047ys3v3n
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    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Lol, who even uses this system for anything else than transmuting dropped jewellery.

    It could have been nice, but the grain stuff makes it such a grind abomination, I didn't even bother to level it on my crafter.

    Lol, yep, it's a transmute only thing. Only leveling the one crafter in it since the writs are useless.
    Yes I am deeply embarrassed to still be playing this game. I know better.
  • stitchesofdooom
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    Skander wrote: »
    Only people with summerset can refine jewlery. So yeah. That happens

    Yeah, really should be base game tbf. Poor Base Game Only noobs...
    f047ys3v3n wrote: »
    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Lol, who even uses this system for anything else than transmuting dropped jewellery.

    It could have been nice, but the grain stuff makes it such a grind abomination, I didn't even bother to level it on my crafter.

    Lol, yep, it's a transmute only thing. Only leveling the one crafter in it since the writs are useless.

    at least you still get gold and the accasional chromium grain from doing the dailies
    Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
    Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
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  • Juju_beans
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    totally gave up on making anything blue/purple for my cp160 toons.
    Instead I'll make white/green low level jewelry for my low level toons.
  • stitchesofdooom
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    Juju_beans wrote: »
    totally gave up on making anything blue/purple for my cp160 toons.
    Instead I'll make white/green low level jewelry for my low level toons.

    not even remotely worth improving jewelry unless it's CP160. The rest of my gear: green up to about lv30-40, blue for lv 40-cp50ish. Purple to CP150 and, of course, gold after that.

    Can't do that with jewelry.
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    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
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  • phileunderx2
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    I haven't done any master writs for jewelry yet on PC na. If I get one I either donate it to the guild if it is somewhat doable or just deystroy It if it isn't.

    I have made 1 set of purple julianos for my main and a set of tourogs for a lowbie. I want to be able to craft jewelry for my characters so I'm not going to waste my purple and gold mats on writs.
  • stitchesofdooom
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    until they fix this BS, Jewelry writs will be mostly worthless
    Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
    Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
    PCMR EU.
  • stitchesofdooom
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    OMFG I've been trying to get enough Zircon plating to complete a jewelry writ. I need the vouchers but I'm also trying to save up gold so I don't want to buy master writs. I've not been recieving much in the way of master writs recently which is a massive pain in the arse.

    I've got a few more jewelry writs, of course tho *grr*
    Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
    Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
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  • kind_hero
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    Since launch I gathered ONE chromium plating which I used for my Alinor clock, of course :)

    Something has to be done about the zircon and chromium... Maybe being able to buy grains with vouchers, transmute crystals, or other currency would be a solution? Or making the dust drop from nodes at a small drop rate.
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  • Feric51
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    I must have sacrificed a virgin chicken to the right RNG deity yesterday as I refined 1,200 platinum ore and returned 12 chromium grains, 13 zircon grains, 20 iridium grains and 17 terne grains.....

    If course now I know I won't see another chromium grain for 2 months, but that's how it goes...
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