Magplar PvP

Kartalin

Syiccal wrote: »

in to minds here,, vamps bane or reflective light?

Some questions you need to answer to make the choice clear:

Do you want higher uptime on major prophecy? (vamp's bane)
Or do you want to snare more people? (reflective)

Do you typically duel/1v1? (vamp's bane)
Or do you typically fight outnumbered? (reflective)

Minno

Kartalin wrote: »

Syiccal wrote: »

in to minds here,, vamps bane or reflective light?

Some questions you need to answer to make the choice clear:

Do you want higher uptime on major prophecy? (vamp's bane)
Or do you want to snare more people? (reflective)

Do you typically duel/1v1? (vamp's bane)
Or do you typically fight outnumbered? (reflective)

or do you hate your own snare/crit buff being reflected off you or casting a buff every 11/6 seconds? (use crit pots).

:P

Kartalin

Lol, true. At leasts that warden shield merely absorbs it and doesn't reflect.

NBrookus

Syiccal wrote: »

in to minds here,, vamps bane or reflective light?

I've played with both, both are good. Since I usually play outnumbered, I am liking reflective better lately. I also ended up having to re-cast camp bane more often as the original targets died.

It's a personal preference choice.

Syiccal

yea I usually play with reflective to be fair as I like to hit multiple targets and vamp bane is casted around every 6 seconds or so any ways

Soris

Minno wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Syiccal wrote: »

in to minds here,, vamps bane or reflective light?

Some questions you need to answer to make the choice clear:

Do you want higher uptime on major prophecy? (vamp's bane)
Or do you want to snare more people? (reflective)

Do you typically duel/1v1? (vamp's bane)
Or do you typically fight outnumbered? (reflective)

or do you hate your own snare/crit buff being reflected off you or casting a buff every 11/6 seconds? (use crit pots).

:P

Or do you use fire staff or lighting staff? You know for aoe vs single target dmg boost..

I personally use reflective light. Longer duration of bane is wasted imo since i usually cast it every 5 secs or so and i spam it with light attacks when im at range.

BNOC

No-CP or a heavy damage build - Reflective.

If you're putting out big damage or you're in no-CP, people drop like flies before it's ticked off. You don't really need the extended duration at this point, not to mention, the snare and 3-way spammable comes in handy for outnumbered situations which are common in bgs.

If you're tankier/more relaxed playstyle with weaker damage, go for Bane so you don't have to worry about it and can hopefully put out a little more sustained pressure on individual targets.

technohic

Soris wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Syiccal wrote: »

in to minds here,, vamps bane or reflective light?

Some questions you need to answer to make the choice clear:

Do you want higher uptime on major prophecy? (vamp's bane)
Or do you want to snare more people? (reflective)

Do you typically duel/1v1? (vamp's bane)
Or do you typically fight outnumbered? (reflective)

or do you hate your own snare/crit buff being reflected off you or casting a buff every 11/6 seconds? (use crit pots).

:P

Or do you use fire staff or lighting staff? You know for aoe vs single target dmg boost..

I personally use reflective light. Longer duration of bane is wasted imo since i usually cast it every 5 secs or so and i spam it with light attacks when im at range.

Lightning staff is why I use reflective but TBH I haven't made sure it helps. Weird that an AOE in RL gets reflected.

Soris

I just have realised CCs no longer stun if the enemy have total dark bubble on them. It acts like they have cc immunity eventhough the bubble is still active(no cc immunity). Is this a bug or new feature? Can anyone reproduce and confirm please?

Minno

Soris wrote: »

I just have realised CCs no longer stun if the enemy have total dark bubble on them. It acts like they have cc immunity eventhough the bubble is still active(no cc immunity). Is this a bug or new feature? Can anyone reproduce and confirm please?

Looks like they never intended eclipse to be cc'd while active. It definitely needs an extra effect and unstable core revised

Soris

Minno wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

I just have realised CCs no longer stun if the enemy have total dark bubble on them. It acts like they have cc immunity eventhough the bubble is still active(no cc immunity). Is this a bug or new feature? Can anyone reproduce and confirm please?

Looks like they never intended eclipse to be cc'd while active. It definitely needs an extra effect and unstable core revised

But it wasn't like this for a long time already. It isnt even a cc. This new mechanic really sucks, because it effectively gives longer cc immunity if the target doesn't break free and plays defensive (total dark duration + cc immunity timer when it ends)

Soris

technohic wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Syiccal wrote: »

in to minds here,, vamps bane or reflective light?

Some questions you need to answer to make the choice clear:

Do you want higher uptime on major prophecy? (vamp's bane)
Or do you want to snare more people? (reflective)

Do you typically duel/1v1? (vamp's bane)
Or do you typically fight outnumbered? (reflective)

or do you hate your own snare/crit buff being reflected off you or casting a buff every 11/6 seconds? (use crit pots).

:P

Or do you use fire staff or lighting staff? You know for aoe vs single target dmg boost..

I personally use reflective light. Longer duration of bane is wasted imo since i usually cast it every 5 secs or so and i spam it with light attacks when im at range.

Lightning staff is why I use reflective but TBH I haven't made sure it helps. Weird that an AOE in RL gets reflected.

Reflective Light counts as both aoe and single target. Weird yes. The initial hit counts as aoe and is buffed by lighting staff meanwhile the dot component count as single target and buffed by flame staff.

Minno

Soris wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

I just have realised CCs no longer stun if the enemy have total dark bubble on them. It acts like they have cc immunity eventhough the bubble is still active(no cc immunity). Is this a bug or new feature? Can anyone reproduce and confirm please?

Looks like they never intended eclipse to be cc'd while active. It definitely needs an extra effect and unstable core revised

But it wasn't like this for a long time already. It isnt even a cc. This new mechanic really sucks

Preaching to the choir. Joy already expressed feedback about howa niche ability got even more niche.

technohic

Minno wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

I just have realised CCs no longer stun if the enemy have total dark bubble on them. It acts like they have cc immunity eventhough the bubble is still active(no cc immunity). Is this a bug or new feature? Can anyone reproduce and confirm please?

Looks like they never intended eclipse to be cc'd while active. It definitely needs an extra effect and unstable core revised

But it wasn't like this for a long time already. It isnt even a cc. This new mechanic really sucks

Preaching to the choir. Joy already expressed feedback about howa niche ability got even more niche.

I go back and forth on the ability. I kind of like it as a breather where the target still damages themselves and UC adds some damage even if broken, but another CC actually can allow me to land things that are otherwise difficult, like meteor, or crescent sweep. Eclipse does the opposite as they might stop and roll dodge to LOS or break free, in which case, they have the block button already pressed.

BNOC

technohic wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

I just have realised CCs no longer stun if the enemy have total dark bubble on them. It acts like they have cc immunity eventhough the bubble is still active(no cc immunity). Is this a bug or new feature? Can anyone reproduce and confirm please?

Looks like they never intended eclipse to be cc'd while active. It definitely needs an extra effect and unstable core revised

But it wasn't like this for a long time already. It isnt even a cc. This new mechanic really sucks

Preaching to the choir. Joy already expressed feedback about howa niche ability got even more niche.

I go back and forth on the ability. I kind of like it as a breather where the target still damages themselves and UC adds some damage even if broken, but another CC actually can allow me to land things that are otherwise difficult, like meteor, or crescent sweep. Eclipse does the opposite as they might stop and roll dodge to LOS or break free, in which case, they have the block button already pressed.

I don't know if it's just lag on console, but the only reason UC or TD can be effective on console is that when it's applied, you don't actually see it for a couple seconds - By which point you've weaved a couple things.

When it's not laggy it's clearly a waste of a slot and is dealt with very easily, at least in no-CP.

Unlikely I'd be using it anyway but I definitely won't be using it if it's granting cc immunity on cast.

NBrookus

The latest changes have made me question TD again. The fact that it doesn't actually CC AND you can't follow up with a CC like toppling PLUS doesn't do as much damage as the snipes, etc. that it works on, the number of circumstances when it is legit useful has dropped off.

If it isn't going to be a real CC, it should reflect the other players' damage and debuffs. Making a nightblade incap themselves would be useful.

technohic

BNOC wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

I just have realised CCs no longer stun if the enemy have total dark bubble on them. It acts like they have cc immunity eventhough the bubble is still active(no cc immunity). Is this a bug or new feature? Can anyone reproduce and confirm please?

Looks like they never intended eclipse to be cc'd while active. It definitely needs an extra effect and unstable core revised

But it wasn't like this for a long time already. It isnt even a cc. This new mechanic really sucks

Preaching to the choir. Joy already expressed feedback about howa niche ability got even more niche.

I go back and forth on the ability. I kind of like it as a breather where the target still damages themselves and UC adds some damage even if broken, but another CC actually can allow me to land things that are otherwise difficult, like meteor, or crescent sweep. Eclipse does the opposite as they might stop and roll dodge to LOS or break free, in which case, they have the block button already pressed.

I don't know if it's just lag on console, but the only reason UC or TD can be effective on console is that when it's applied, you don't actually see it for a couple seconds - By which point you've weaved a couple things.

When it's not laggy it's clearly a waste of a slot and is dealt with very easily, at least in no-CP.

Unlikely I'd be using it anyway but I definitely won't be using it if it's granting cc immunity on cast.

Yeah, wahts more is if I use reach, I get a stun and a DOT. Even on lightning staff. Adds another ability to proc VS if I want to run it.

Minno

technohic wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

I just have realised CCs no longer stun if the enemy have total dark bubble on them. It acts like they have cc immunity eventhough the bubble is still active(no cc immunity). Is this a bug or new feature? Can anyone reproduce and confirm please?

Looks like they never intended eclipse to be cc'd while active. It definitely needs an extra effect and unstable core revised

But it wasn't like this for a long time already. It isnt even a cc. This new mechanic really sucks

Preaching to the choir. Joy already expressed feedback about howa niche ability got even more niche.

I go back and forth on the ability. I kind of like it as a breather where the target still damages themselves and UC adds some damage even if broken, but another CC actually can allow me to land things that are otherwise difficult, like meteor, or crescent sweep. Eclipse does the opposite as they might stop and roll dodge to LOS or break free, in which case, they have the block button already pressed.

I am tempted to put javelin on my bar over eclipse now. But even weird enough, maybe I want an AOE cc from either a set or timestop.

I think I might want to go timestop...

Minno

Ok finally Doomsday posted his video! He got forum banned but before that happened, I asked him for like years to post his damn playing/playstyle. He sent me the link so I am more than happy to link it here for him lol. All 1v1's, keep that in mind.

https://youtu.be/tosUzekmpXA

His infamous build:
Mighty Chudan x2...
Combat Physician x5...
Robes of the Hist x5...

Datolite

Quick poll regarding sustain vs raw stats:

-BTB/Shackle with Dubios Camoran Throne

or

-BTB/Amberplasm with Double Bloody Mara



I'm looking to get best bang for my buck, and have enough stamina to block and CC break (my current build I have to sacrifice too much damage for that). I'm trying to avoid using a recovery mundus. Any opinions?

Edit: Bonus option, BTB/Shackle with Jewels of Misrule. Cause my stats are phat.

Minno

Datolite wrote: »

Quick poll regarding sustain vs raw stats:

-BTB/Shackle with Dubios Camoran Throne

or

-BTB/Amberplasm with Double Bloody Mara



I'm looking to get best bang for my buck, and have enough stamina to block and CC break (my current build I have to sacrifice too much damage for that). Any opinions?

If your stamina is above 14k, id go with the Mara option. More health/mag would be better. If you have dual staffs+ele drain, then restoring rune/stam cost/sustain poison can be used before using Camoran drink.

Jimmy_The_Fixer

Datolite wrote: »

Quick poll regarding sustain vs raw stats:

-BTB/Shackle with Dubios Camoran Throne

or

-BTB/Amberplasm with Double Bloody Mara



I'm looking to get best bang for my buck, and have enough stamina to block and CC break (my current build I have to sacrifice too much damage for that). Any opinions?

Shackle and Dubious? With Prismatic body pieces that's like 20k stam. Why do you need that much stamina?

Datolite

Minno wrote: »

Datolite wrote: »

Quick poll regarding sustain vs raw stats:

-BTB/Shackle with Dubios Camoran Throne

or

-BTB/Amberplasm with Double Bloody Mara



I'm looking to get best bang for my buck, and have enough stamina to block and CC break (my current build I have to sacrifice too much damage for that). Any opinions?

If your stamina is above 14k, id go with the Mara option. More health/mag would be better. If you have dual staffs+ele drain, then restoring rune/stam cost/sustain poison can be used before using Camoran drink.

That's what I'm leaning towards, though I have SnB backbar. This is for BGs BTW so my sustain needs as much as it can get.

Minno

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Datolite wrote: »

Quick poll regarding sustain vs raw stats:

-BTB/Shackle with Dubios Camoran Throne

or

-BTB/Amberplasm with Double Bloody Mara



I'm looking to get best bang for my buck, and have enough stamina to block and CC break (my current build I have to sacrifice too much damage for that). Any opinions?

Shackle and Dubious? With Prismatic body pieces that's like 20k stam. Why do you need that much stamina?

you could stack full mag with 1 health at that point. More damage for essentially the same health/stam stats is I think the intent.

technohic

Minno wrote: »

Ok finally Doomsday posted his video! He got forum banned but before that happened, I asked him for like years to post his damn playing/playstyle. He sent me the link so I am more than happy to link it here for him lol. All 1v1's, keep that in mind.

https://youtu.be/tosUzekmpXA

His infamous build:
Mighty Chudan x2...
Combat Physician x5...
Robes of the Hist x5...

Is that what he's wearing there? I just see him surprising some of these guys in damage then they panic and try to run

Datolite

Datolite wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Datolite wrote: »

Quick poll regarding sustain vs raw stats:

-BTB/Shackle with Dubios Camoran Throne

or

-BTB/Amberplasm with Double Bloody Mara



I'm looking to get best bang for my buck, and have enough stamina to block and CC break (my current build I have to sacrifice too much damage for that). Any opinions?

If your stamina is above 14k, id go with the Mara option. More health/mag would be better. If you have dual staffs+ele drain, then restoring rune/stam cost/sustain poison can be used before using Camoran drink.

That's what I'm leaning towards, though I have SnB backbar. This is for BGs BTW so my sustain needs as much as it can get.

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Datolite wrote: »

Quick poll regarding sustain vs raw stats:

-BTB/Shackle with Dubios Camoran Throne

or

-BTB/Amberplasm with Double Bloody Mara



I'm looking to get best bang for my buck, and have enough stamina to block and CC break (my current build I have to sacrifice too much damage for that). Any opinions?

Shackle and Dubious? With Prismatic body pieces that's like 20k stam. Why do you need that much stamina?

Since switching to spell crit pots (used to use tripot) I have a big problem with stam sustain that's why i am considering Amberplasm or some kind of alternative. And sacrificing damage isn't an option.

Kartalin

Datolite wrote: »

Datolite wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Datolite wrote: »

Quick poll regarding sustain vs raw stats:

-BTB/Shackle with Dubios Camoran Throne

or

-BTB/Amberplasm with Double Bloody Mara



I'm looking to get best bang for my buck, and have enough stamina to block and CC break (my current build I have to sacrifice too much damage for that). Any opinions?

If your stamina is above 14k, id go with the Mara option. More health/mag would be better. If you have dual staffs+ele drain, then restoring rune/stam cost/sustain poison can be used before using Camoran drink.

That's what I'm leaning towards, though I have SnB backbar. This is for BGs BTW so my sustain needs as much as it can get.

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Datolite wrote: »

Quick poll regarding sustain vs raw stats:

-BTB/Shackle with Dubios Camoran Throne

or

-BTB/Amberplasm with Double Bloody Mara



I'm looking to get best bang for my buck, and have enough stamina to block and CC break (my current build I have to sacrifice too much damage for that). Any opinions?

Shackle and Dubious? With Prismatic body pieces that's like 20k stam. Why do you need that much stamina?

Since switching to spell crit pots (used to use tripot) I have a big problem with stam sustain that's why i am considering Amberplasm or some kind of alternative. And sacrificing damage isn't an option.

If that’s what you’re trying to solve, then maybe shackle/bright throat and witchmothers to keep max magicka from your drink but use the stam recovery morph of rune focus? You could also run Blood Spawn

Joy_Division

Minno wrote: »

Ok finally Doomsday posted his video! He got forum banned but before that happened, I asked him for like years to post his damn playing/playstyle. He sent me the link so I am more than happy to link it here for him lol. All 1v1's, keep that in mind.

https://youtu.be/tosUzekmpXA

His infamous build:
Mighty Chudan x2...
Combat Physician x5...
Robes of the Hist x5...

Radiant Magelight both bars? I think the skill is too niche to put on one.

Brutusmax1mus

Minno wrote: »

Ok finally Doomsday posted his video! He got forum banned but before that happened, I asked him for like years to post his damn playing/playstyle. He sent me the link so I am more than happy to link it here for him lol. All 1v1's, keep that in mind.

https://youtu.be/tosUzekmpXA

His infamous build:
Mighty Chudan x2...
Combat Physician x5...
Robes of the Hist x5...

Lol let me guess, a ton of purifying light into explosive charging into soul assault? On night glasses cannon night blades?

Jimmy_The_Fixer

Minno wrote: »

Ok finally Doomsday posted his video! He got forum banned but before that happened, I asked him for like years to post his damn playing/playstyle. He sent me the link so I am more than happy to link it here for him lol. All 1v1's, keep that in mind.

https://youtu.be/tosUzekmpXA

His infamous build:
Mighty Chudan x2...
Combat Physician x5...
Robes of the Hist x5...

It's beautiful, everything I expected and more. Runs magelight on both bars AND soul assault and it still takes him like 3 full minutes to seal the deal on a NB ganker with 14k HP.