Magplar PvP

PickleRick

@Minno there 100% needs to be a Speed+Mag+Utility pot. Wether it’s immov, crit, Vitality, whatever.

I haven’t tested the light armor snare passives so I don’t know the exact mechanics I just assumed they worked like the mechanics on live do

Minno

PickleRick wrote: »

@Minno there 100% needs to be a Speed+Mag+Utility pot. Wether it’s immov, crit, Vitality, whatever.

I haven’t tested the light armor snare passives so I don’t know the exact mechanics I just assumed they worked like the mechanics on live do

There really does need to be that pot. Not vitality, but definitely immov or crit (my money is on crit since stam can either get it off a pot, use a dagger, or roll better passives). Some mag builds have to slot inner light in some cases and that sucks lol.

PickleRick

Minno wrote: »

PickleRick wrote: »

@Minno there 100% needs to be a Speed+Mag+Utility pot. Wether it’s immov, crit, Vitality, whatever.

I haven’t tested the light armor snare passives so I don’t know the exact mechanics I just assumed they worked like the mechanics on live do

There really does need to be that pot. Not vitality, but definitely immov or crit (my money is on crit since stam can either get it off a pot, use a dagger, or roll better passives). Some mag builds have to slot inner light in some cases and that sucks lol.

Yeah, I think crit is the best option as well since it gives something different from the Stamina options and offers that Major Prophecy to classes that lack it. It wouldn’t benefit all Magplars since there’s native Prophecy but worst case it opens a skill slot so you can run a different DoT. As long as you source your minor sorcery somewhere else

Minno

PickleRick wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PickleRick wrote: »

@Minno there 100% needs to be a Speed+Mag+Utility pot. Wether it’s immov, crit, Vitality, whatever.

I haven’t tested the light armor snare passives so I don’t know the exact mechanics I just assumed they worked like the mechanics on live do

There really does need to be that pot. Not vitality, but definitely immov or crit (my money is on crit since stam can either get it off a pot, use a dagger, or roll better passives). Some mag builds have to slot inner light in some cases and that sucks lol.

Yeah, I think crit is the best option as well since it gives something different from the Stamina options and offers that Major Prophecy to classes that lack it. It wouldn’t benefit all Magplars since there’s native Prophecy but worst case it opens a skill slot so you can run a different DoT. As long as you source your minor sorcery somewhere else

It will benefit on a better uptime of the buff the very least (45 second with 6-12secs off vamps bane).

I still like my idea of sorcery buff on race against time as well lol.

DeadlyRecluse

Minno wrote: »

SD or SC/speed/mag pot like stamina can lol

SD/Speed/Mag would be so very, very good.

Mrsinister2

I don't run FM or mist I just use 3 Swifts and accept the fact I'll get zerged down or 4 dawn breakers on me from the Stam Bros.

I can't even find room on my bars for most unless I use pots for major sorc witch I hate doing because I forgot to often

PickleRick

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

I don't run FM or mist I just use 3 Swifts and accept the fact I'll get zerged down or 4 dawn breakers on me from the Stam Bros.

I can't even find room on my bars for most unless I use pots for major sorc witch I hate doing because I forgot to often

I just don’t find Magplar skills that compelling when I’m solo. I get the clunky knockback, the short duration DoT that my best in class offensive buff is attached to, the cone AoE that requires a CC that the class doesn’t natively have in order to be effective, the big glowing thing in the sky that screams “here comes the burst”, etc. that’s why it’s easy for me to fit FM. It’s a fun class but offensively it’s a train wreck solo unless you’re using some sort of gimmick

Mrsinister2

PickleRick wrote: »

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

I don't run FM or mist I just use 3 Swifts and accept the fact I'll get zerged down or 4 dawn breakers on me from the Stam Bros.

I can't even find room on my bars for most unless I use pots for major sorc witch I hate doing because I forgot to often

I just don’t find Magplar skills that compelling when I’m solo. I get the clunky knockback, the short duration DoT that my best in class offensive buff is attached to, the cone AoE that requires a CC that the class doesn’t natively have in order to be effective, the big glowing thing in the sky that screams “here comes the burst”, etc. that’s why it’s easy for me to fit FM. It’s a fun class but offensively it’s a train wreck solo unless you’re using some sort of gimmick

This is all true and pretty hilarious

Maybe I need to swap things up

Skinzz

Do any of you not use inner light? I've been contemplating on taking it off for some psijic skills but its driving me crazy if I should do it or not lol. I lose 2200 magicka and 10% crit without it.

Minno

xskinzcity wrote: »

Do any of you not use inner light? I've been contemplating on taking it off for some psijic skills but its driving me crazy if I should do it or not lol. I lose 2200 magicka and 10% crit without it.

Roughly 209 SD or utility, is basically the question.

I used inner light in CP sometimes, but it doesn't do anything but buff up. Race against time gives you 10% crit DMG though so it helps alleviate the mag loss while gaining speed buffs.

CatchMeTrolling

xskinzcity wrote: »

Do any of you not use inner light? I've been contemplating on taking it off for some psijic skills but its driving me crazy if I should do it or not lol. I lose 2200 magicka and 10% crit without it.

Depends on the build, haven’t used it in awhile. Only times I used it was when I felt I lacked max or was building for a high max. If you have a flex spot it’s not a bad choice.

PickleRick

@Minno there’s also the fact that there’s a class DoT which offers that buff during your offensive window(inner light doesn’t give prophecy on defense bar anyway) and the added damage from the DoT is more than the max mag will add.

HowlKimchi

xskinzcity wrote: »

Do any of you not use inner light? I've been contemplating on taking it off for some psijic skills but its driving me crazy if I should do it or not lol. I lose 2200 magicka and 10% crit without it.

ran it for a long time, but since reflective light also gives the major prophecy buff, i've replaced inner light with it.

I've been using lightning staff even before it counted as a 2 pc, so my front bar is:
shock reach, sweeps, purifying light, refliective light, ele drain.

Skinzz

Minno wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Do any of you not use inner light? I've been contemplating on taking it off for some psijic skills but its driving me crazy if I should do it or not lol. I lose 2200 magicka and 10% crit without it.

Roughly 209 SD or utility, is basically the question.

I used inner light in CP sometimes, but it doesn't do anything but buff up. Race against time gives you 10% crit DMG though so it helps alleviate the mag loss while gaining speed buffs.

Basically with my set up, I would have to lose either magelight or entropy, but then i would have to use spell power pots. I'm using sweeps, purifying light, radiant lol, inner light and recently destro clench. Back bar is entropy, mist, rune, cleanse, bol. I'm trying to slot in 1 psijic skill so inner light or entropy need to go. Tried heavy rattlecage but struggled with sustain. Only started maining a magplar a month ago.

Skinzz

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Do any of you not use inner light? I've been contemplating on taking it off for some psijic skills but its driving me crazy if I should do it or not lol. I lose 2200 magicka and 10% crit without it.

Depends on the build, haven’t used it in awhile. Only times I used it was when I felt I lacked max or was building for a high max. If you have a flex spot it’s not a bad choice.

Hey bro I used to play with you back then lol

Syiccal

I'm always back n forth if I should use inner light or not

Syiccal

bit of advice needed please fellas,, recently started playing lightning staff/s+B but unsure as to which trait the staff should be,, it's master staff if that matters

CatchMeTrolling

xskinzcity wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Do any of you not use inner light? I've been contemplating on taking it off for some psijic skills but its driving me crazy if I should do it or not lol. I lose 2200 magicka and 10% crit without it.

Depends on the build, haven’t used it in awhile. Only times I used it was when I felt I lacked max or was building for a high max. If you have a flex spot it’s not a bad choice.

Hey bro I used to play with you back then lol

Yeah been a minute. Haven’t seen you since pubg came out. Although I don’t play the game as much as before.

Was going to say do you remember this then realized you got off already. https://xboxdvr.com/gamer/catchmetrolling/video/40080583 I don’t even run a gap closer anymore, video ancient.

Edit: meant to put this one https://xboxdvr.com/gamer/catchmetrolling/video/19573915

Minno

xskinzcity wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Do any of you not use inner light? I've been contemplating on taking it off for some psijic skills but its driving me crazy if I should do it or not lol. I lose 2200 magicka and 10% crit without it.

Roughly 209 SD or utility, is basically the question.

I used inner light in CP sometimes, but it doesn't do anything but buff up. Race against time gives you 10% crit DMG though so it helps alleviate the mag loss while gaining speed buffs.

Basically with my set up, I would have to lose either magelight or entropy, but then i would have to use spell power pots. I'm using sweeps, purifying light, radiant lol, inner light and recently destro clench. Back bar is entropy, mist, rune, cleanse, bol. I'm trying to slot in 1 psijic skill so inner light or entropy need to go. Tried heavy rattlecage but struggled with sustain. Only started maining a magplar a month ago.

Drop inner light for sure. Use spell crit, health, mag pot if you want to fit something other than vamps bane.

Joy_Division

Kartalin wrote: »

Speed pot choices are pretty limited. Stam/speed/immov or speed/lingering health. Any others worth mentioning? Lingering health can work well with Troll King.

Stam/speed/immov are all three things magplars want and need. I am genuinely surprised people think its weird that I use that potion 9 times out of 10. Yes, I lose a little magicka regen, but that is easily recouped by slotting Elemental drain, which also happens to boost my damage against the target I want to kill.

Datolite

xskinzcity wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Do any of you not use inner light? I've been contemplating on taking it off for some psijic skills but its driving me crazy if I should do it or not lol. I lose 2200 magicka and 10% crit without it.

Roughly 209 SD or utility, is basically the question.

I used inner light in CP sometimes, but it doesn't do anything but buff up. Race against time gives you 10% crit DMG though so it helps alleviate the mag loss while gaining speed buffs.

Basically with my set up, I would have to lose either magelight or entropy, but then i would have to use spell power pots. I'm using sweeps, purifying light, radiant lol, inner light and recently destro clench. Back bar is entropy, mist, rune, cleanse, bol. I'm trying to slot in 1 psijic skill so inner light or entropy need to go. Tried heavy rattlecage but struggled with sustain. Only started maining a magplar a month ago.

Personally I can't give up my tri stat pots so entropy (degeneration) is the way to go. I am in BGs mostly so losing out on major prophecy isn't a huge deal.

Also no shame in slotting radiant. People laugh on the forums but start panicking when they encounter someone who knows how to use it.

PickleRick

@Syiccal I think, but could be wrong, that Infused Shock glyph is the best choice there.

@Joy_Division thank you! Speed/stam/immov is so good for Magplars

Syiccal

yea ok I just wasn't sure if nern with shock or infused with shock would be better

CatchMeTrolling

Joy_Division wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Speed pot choices are pretty limited. Stam/speed/immov or speed/lingering health. Any others worth mentioning? Lingering health can work well with Troll King.

Stam/speed/immov are all three things magplars want and need. I am genuinely surprised people think its weird that I use that potion 9 times out of 10. Yes, I lose a little magicka regen, but that is easily recouped by slotting Elemental drain, which also happens to boost my damage against the target I want to kill.

That’s what I’m using now. With the clock work food I still get 1900 plus base regen with all spell damage glyphs and the apprentice mundus. While maintaining 14k stam.

PickleRick

Syiccal wrote: »

yea ok I just wasn't sure if nern with shock or infused with shock would be better

Nirn gives higher tool tips but Infused Shock will increase damage more because you get more glyph procs and they deal damage and each one is another opportunity to proc concussion.

I could be mistaken, but like I said it’s what I run and I seem to remember making that decision after reading a post somewhere that broke it down, I’ll try to find the post somewhere and link it if I can

Mrsinister2

I got all gold spinner's rings now but if I'm already running light armor is spinner's just over kill?

Is to much Penn even a thing?

CatchMeTrolling

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

I got all gold spinner's rings now but if I'm already running light armor is spinner's just over kill?

Is to much Penn even a thing?

Yeah but it’s harder too reach in pvp. Think in pve max resistance is like 18k.

Mrsinister2

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Mrsinister2 wrote: »

I got all gold spinner's rings now but if I'm already running light armor is spinner's just over kill?

Is to much Penn even a thing?

Yeah but it’s harder too reach in pvp. Think in pve max resistance is like 18k.

Yea in pvp any heavy armor build gonna have a ton of resistence.

I also just realized I can't play with out swift I don't have it on these rings and it's absolutely brutal how slow magplar is

Syiccal

did abit of testing with cp earlier and turns out that nearly every skill on my bar excluding jabs is buffed by master at arms including radiant destruction , reflective light, shock reach and empowering sweeps

Syiccal

^^ I find this strange as they are all mostly channeled/ dots