Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
redspecter23 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Agreed. There is absolutely zero chance that what is showing in that image is working as intended. ZOS dropped the ball and the silence is not appreciated at all.
Shadowmaster wrote: »ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »Greetings all,
Just a friendly reminder to keep all posts civil, constructive, and on topic.
Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg-
@ZOS_GregoryV do you have any idea how frustrating it is to have players asking for comment from staff in a thread, only to have the staff comment be "Behave"?
Is it possible for the community to get an on-topic response as well or is that asking too much?
Shadowmaster wrote: »ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »Greetings all,
Just a friendly reminder to keep all posts civil, constructive, and on topic.
Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg-
@ZOS_GregoryV do you have any idea how frustrating it is to have players asking for comment from staff in a thread, only to have the staff comment be "Behave"?
Is it possible for the community to get an on-topic response as well or is that asking too much?
You forget you're dealing with the masters of non-communication here. They will be silent, or tell you the absolute minimum about any given subject. But to be fair, I don't believe the forum monitors are privy to the coding and statistical goings on, so not entirely fair to take it out on them. They will tell you exactly what their superiors tell them to say.
I can think of a *slim* chance case that it could be working as intended - they intend to decrease the difficulty of obtaining JC mats in the near future, and don't want to deal with the fallout of reworking the JC master writs when they do. If the master writs gave reasonable rewards now, they'd give ridiculous rewards when mats were more available. The way they are now, if JC becomes more rewarding, it is all more rewarding - instead of needing to nerf master writs people are already holding to keep them reasonable. Hey, I can dream, right?redspecter23 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Agreed. There is absolutely zero chance that what is showing in that image is working as intended. ZOS dropped the ball and the silence is not appreciated at all.
I can think of a *slim* chance case that it could be working as intended - they intend to decrease the difficulty of obtaining JC mats in the near future, and don't want to deal with the fallout of reworking the JC master writs when they do. If the master writs gave reasonable rewards now, they'd give ridiculous rewards when mats were more available. The way they are now, if JC becomes more rewarding, it is all more rewarding - instead of needing to nerf master writs people are already holding to keep them reasonable. Hey, I can dream, right?redspecter23 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Agreed. There is absolutely zero chance that what is showing in that image is working as intended. ZOS dropped the ball and the silence is not appreciated at all.
I can think of a *slim* chance case that it could be working as intended - they intend to decrease the difficulty of obtaining JC mats in the near futureand don't want to deal with the fallout of reworking the JC master writs when they do. If the master writs gave reasonable rewards now, they'd give ridiculous rewards when mats were more available. The way they are now, if JC becomes more rewarding, it is all more rewarding - instead of needing to nerf master writs people are already holding to keep them reasonable. Hey, I can dream, right?redspecter23 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Agreed. There is absolutely zero chance that what is showing in that image is working as intended. ZOS dropped the ball and the silence is not appreciated at all.
I can think of a *slim* chance case that it could be working as intended - they intend to decrease the difficulty of obtaining JC mats in the near futureand don't want to deal with the fallout of reworking the JC master writs when they do. If the master writs gave reasonable rewards now, they'd give ridiculous rewards when mats were more available. The way they are now, if JC becomes more rewarding, it is all more rewarding - instead of needing to nerf master writs people are already holding to keep them reasonable. Hey, I can dream, right?redspecter23 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Agreed. There is absolutely zero chance that what is showing in that image is working as intended. ZOS dropped the ball and the silence is not appreciated at all.
So, explain why a master writ requiring swift trait (20 voucher material cost) rewards us with 8 vouchers? I think it's more a case of dead calculator batteries than future cost planning.
These max tier writs are bugged, no matter what you say it has to be i've been doing 15 max tier JC writs since week 1 every day and yet still only have had 2 legendary grains drop all this time, and that was only from the first day as well.
They plan to reduce the voucher cost of the trait stone along with adjusting the availability of the other JC mats? I'm not advocating that this is indeed their plan (I personally don't think it's likely) - but like I said, "I can dream". They certainly know this is completely broken as it currently stands.I can think of a *slim* chance case that it could be working as intended - they intend to decrease the difficulty of obtaining JC mats in the near futureand don't want to deal with the fallout of reworking the JC master writs when they do. If the master writs gave reasonable rewards now, they'd give ridiculous rewards when mats were more available. The way they are now, if JC becomes more rewarding, it is all more rewarding - instead of needing to nerf master writs people are already holding to keep them reasonable. Hey, I can dream, right?redspecter23 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Agreed. There is absolutely zero chance that what is showing in that image is working as intended. ZOS dropped the ball and the silence is not appreciated at all.
So, explain why a master writ requiring swift trait (20 voucher material cost) rewards us with 8 vouchers? I think it's more a case of dead calculator batteries than future cost planning.
They plan to reduce the voucher cost of the trait stone along with adjusting the availability of the other JC mats? I'm not advocating that this is indeed their plan (I personally don't think it's likely) - but like I said, "I can dream". They certainly know this is completely broken as it currently stands.I can think of a *slim* chance case that it could be working as intended - they intend to decrease the difficulty of obtaining JC mats in the near futureand don't want to deal with the fallout of reworking the JC master writs when they do. If the master writs gave reasonable rewards now, they'd give ridiculous rewards when mats were more available. The way they are now, if JC becomes more rewarding, it is all more rewarding - instead of needing to nerf master writs people are already holding to keep them reasonable. Hey, I can dream, right?redspecter23 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Agreed. There is absolutely zero chance that what is showing in that image is working as intended. ZOS dropped the ball and the silence is not appreciated at all.
So, explain why a master writ requiring swift trait (20 voucher material cost) rewards us with 8 vouchers? I think it's more a case of dead calculator batteries than future cost planning.
redspecter23 wrote: »They plan to reduce the voucher cost of the trait stone along with adjusting the availability of the other JC mats? I'm not advocating that this is indeed their plan (I personally don't think it's likely) - but like I said, "I can dream". They certainly know this is completely broken as it currently stands.I can think of a *slim* chance case that it could be working as intended - they intend to decrease the difficulty of obtaining JC mats in the near futureand don't want to deal with the fallout of reworking the JC master writs when they do. If the master writs gave reasonable rewards now, they'd give ridiculous rewards when mats were more available. The way they are now, if JC becomes more rewarding, it is all more rewarding - instead of needing to nerf master writs people are already holding to keep them reasonable. Hey, I can dream, right?redspecter23 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Agreed. There is absolutely zero chance that what is showing in that image is working as intended. ZOS dropped the ball and the silence is not appreciated at all.
So, explain why a master writ requiring swift trait (20 voucher material cost) rewards us with 8 vouchers? I think it's more a case of dead calculator batteries than future cost planning.
Do they know? At this point I'm not so sure anymore. Nothing has changed in the system since it was released. If they knew then, why would they release it in that state? This particular issue isn't even a hard fix. Adjust the voucher cost of the swift stone to below the voucher reward of the master writ. 3 minutes of work.
"Broken" master writ feedback was given during the PTS, and in a number of threads since it went live. They know. They have chosen to not alter it, and to not comment on it. Why?redspecter23 wrote: »They plan to reduce the voucher cost of the trait stone along with adjusting the availability of the other JC mats? I'm not advocating that this is indeed their plan (I personally don't think it's likely) - but like I said, "I can dream". They certainly know this is completely broken as it currently stands.I can think of a *slim* chance case that it could be working as intended - they intend to decrease the difficulty of obtaining JC mats in the near futureand don't want to deal with the fallout of reworking the JC master writs when they do. If the master writs gave reasonable rewards now, they'd give ridiculous rewards when mats were more available. The way they are now, if JC becomes more rewarding, it is all more rewarding - instead of needing to nerf master writs people are already holding to keep them reasonable. Hey, I can dream, right?redspecter23 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Agreed. There is absolutely zero chance that what is showing in that image is working as intended. ZOS dropped the ball and the silence is not appreciated at all.
So, explain why a master writ requiring swift trait (20 voucher material cost) rewards us with 8 vouchers? I think it's more a case of dead calculator batteries than future cost planning.
Do they know? At this point I'm not so sure anymore. Nothing has changed in the system since it was released. If they knew then, why would they release it in that state? This particular issue isn't even a hard fix. Adjust the voucher cost of the swift stone to below the voucher reward of the master writ. 3 minutes of work.
"Broken" master writ feedback was given during the PTS, and in a number of threads since it went live. They know. They have chosen to not alter it, and to not comment on it. Why?redspecter23 wrote: »They plan to reduce the voucher cost of the trait stone along with adjusting the availability of the other JC mats? I'm not advocating that this is indeed their plan (I personally don't think it's likely) - but like I said, "I can dream". They certainly know this is completely broken as it currently stands.I can think of a *slim* chance case that it could be working as intended - they intend to decrease the difficulty of obtaining JC mats in the near futureand don't want to deal with the fallout of reworking the JC master writs when they do. If the master writs gave reasonable rewards now, they'd give ridiculous rewards when mats were more available. The way they are now, if JC becomes more rewarding, it is all more rewarding - instead of needing to nerf master writs people are already holding to keep them reasonable. Hey, I can dream, right?redspecter23 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Agreed. There is absolutely zero chance that what is showing in that image is working as intended. ZOS dropped the ball and the silence is not appreciated at all.
So, explain why a master writ requiring swift trait (20 voucher material cost) rewards us with 8 vouchers? I think it's more a case of dead calculator batteries than future cost planning.
Do they know? At this point I'm not so sure anymore. Nothing has changed in the system since it was released. If they knew then, why would they release it in that state? This particular issue isn't even a hard fix. Adjust the voucher cost of the swift stone to below the voucher reward of the master writ. 3 minutes of work.
f047ys3v3n wrote: »These max tier writs are bugged, no matter what you say it has to be i've been doing 15 max tier JC writs since week 1 every day and yet still only have had 2 legendary grains drop all this time, and that was only from the first day as well.
I have received no gold mats from 2 weeks of jewelry master writs. I am going to respec back to level 1 jewelry crafting to stop using up platinum in the writs. Normally there are 4 reasons to have max tier crafting. These are:
1) To craft things
2) To get max level mats from hirelings
3) To get gold mats from writs
4) To get master writs from writs.
There are actually no reasons to have the points in jewely because you can retrait (the only thing jewelry crafting is good for) without it and:
1) You will never craft jewelry because it is, and always will be, stupid expensive.
2) There are no hirelings
3) You get no gold mats from writs
4) The master writs are worthless since it costs ~1.5m for 100k worth of vouchers.
Zos is just stupid. I wish I had not put the points in because now I have to pay to respec and go through the annoyance of putting all my points back in everything else.
Apache_Kid wrote: »Has anyone else felt like the gold mat drops for all writs have been drastically reduced since Summerset? before the patch my writ characters were getting 2-4 gold mats every day and usually it was 3. Since Summerset dropped I am lucky if I get 1 gold mat per crafter per day and it is a substantial, noticible difference. I guess it's possible it is just bad RNG but this is the 8th day in a row where no crafter has gotten more than 1 gold mat. Anyone else?
It's fine for me. I'm not seeing a flux in either direction. I do Max level writs on 30 characters a day on two accounts and my numbers have stayed the same as they were pre Summerset.
Well I was mostly talking about the new JC writs, not the previous ones I still get those from time to time off and on but the new JC writs are basically none existant
Yeah I know YOU were. Some one else was trying to say all gold mats are not dropping as well as they were and I wanted to squash that false rumor.
Your 100% right about max level jewelry crafting writs though. . Completely useless to be doing them. The only thing they offer that lower tiers don't is swift trait items and master writs. Both that are basically useless at this point in the game. Swift can be bought on the market for much cheep then it takes to level jewelry crafting and farm the traits. Master writs at this point arnt even worth thinking about completing with the current cost/reward ratio.
ZOS needs to publicly address these asap. Jewelry crafting writs are by far the most important part of Summerset. It's the only aspect of the chapter that carries on once youve completed it. We deserve to know how they should be performing. No reason to not tell us with an definite yes or no, that this is how they should be working.
f047ys3v3n wrote: »Zos is just stupid. I wish I had not put the points in because now I have to pay to respec and go through the annoyance of putting all my points back in everything else.
Apache_Kid wrote: »redspecter23 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
The fact that there has not been a dev comment on the state of the jewelry master writs is legitimately insulting
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Agreed. There is absolutely zero chance that what is showing in that image is working as intended. ZOS dropped the ball and the silence is not appreciated at all.
One of the most frustrating things about this studio is that they can be presented with information that clearly shows they ****** up royally and instead of coming out right away and apologizing and saying that they will do better they wait months until the next major update and push out a fix. Even if you are going to wait 3 months to fix stuff, which is extremely frustrating, please just come in and acknowledge that the person who designed the writs has 0 contact with the rest of the jewelry crafting dev team.
It's a smaller issue on the grand scale of things to be fair, however, that such a glaringly obvious issue was allowed to go live on all platforms says a HELL of a lot about the quality control that exists over there.
Anyone can think about the 10x requirement to upgrade jewels and take one look at the master writs and realize there was an issue.
No one looked.
No one double-checked.
No one cared.
Welcome to ZoS.
Wouldn't mind having a dev look at this image and tell me what is wrong...
9... 9 vouchers for something which the trait item alone is going to cost 20 vouchers to buy. Yes, someone can tell me all they want that I can get the rings/necks in that trait from writs and break them down. But that is even worse especially when I have received only one of those and I have 3 master writs asking for swift and that assumes I would get a full trait item from decon instead of just 1/10th via pulverized.
-edit- Also want to add the master writ drop rate on JC master writs seems a LOT higher than other crafts.
redspecter23 wrote: »Over 2 weeks of developer silence since this thread was created. Over a month of silence since the issue was first noted.
Silence is the death of communication.
Fix please.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Quick update: We'll actually be able to fix both PC and console versions next Monday (rather than console waiting until the incremental in 3 weeks). We're still discussing when/how anyone affected will be fixed, but we'll have news on that soon.