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ESO Class Reps
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anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?0 -
Rickter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
Edited by Rickter on June 6, 2018 5:15PMRickterESO
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DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
aka we have corruption already setting into this class rep thing..........great...........3 -
casparian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
aka we have corruption already setting into this class rep thing..........great...........
what are you even talking about? The reps have been fantastic so far.
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DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
aka we have corruption already setting into this class rep thing..........great........... what are you even talking about? The reps have been fantastic so far.
read the guy that i quoteds big info post0 -
casparian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
aka we have corruption already setting into this class rep thing..........great........... what are you even talking about? The reps have been fantastic so far.
read the guy that i quoteds big info post
Rickter? He's not a class rep man.7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.1 -
WeylandLabs✭✭✭✭✭This is the only game i has ever played were politics matter. When is this becoming a video game again ?3 -
DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
aka we have corruption already setting into this class rep thing..........great........... what are you even talking about? The reps have been fantastic so far.
read the guy that i quoteds big info post
Rickter? He's not a class rep man.
i know but from the sound of the post it just sounds like corruption is floating somewhere in it0 -
MaselClass RepresentativeDuskMarine wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
aka we have corruption already setting into this class rep thing..........great...........
And there's chemtrails killing all of us...PC EU
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DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
aka we have corruption already setting into this class rep thing..........great...........
And there's chemtrails killing all of us...
i honestly think this is gonna be a awful mistake on zoses part.........to be fully honest they should be the ones gathering the data themselves seeing it for themselves. cause all its going to cause is problems.3 -
Rickter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
aka we have corruption already setting into this class rep thing..........great........... what are you even talking about? The reps have been fantastic so far.
read the guy that i quoteds big info post
Rickter? He's not a class rep man.
i know but from the sound of the post it just sounds like corruption is floating somewhere in it
I'm not sure where the implication of "corruption" is in my post. My post was not directed towards the class reps. My post was directed at the multitude of players who joined with their minds already made up about the program. What I've seen are people taking contrary positions on topics that are almost meaningless like the 3-4 hour disagreement over the general statement that "vampires arent generally utilized in PvP due to X reasons" - because a generalized statement like that triggers their confirmation bias in that the program is going to cater to the elite 1%.
Stuff like that is not constructive and counterproductive to this program's mission statement.RickterESO
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anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
It does matter.
It's unclear whether you're reacting to something here, to something in Discord, and since, at least here, people have been defending various points of view, your post makes no sense. It sounds like you think you have some universally applicable truth that's applicable to all.
Meaningless and useless.
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Rickter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
It does matter.
It's unclear whether you're reacting to something here, to something in Discord, and since, at least here, people have been defending various points of view, your post makes no sense. It sounds like you think you have some universally applicable truth that's applicable to all.
Meaningless and useless.
ok well i apologize, i clarified in my post right above yours. This was an incident in the discord but i maintain that the statement in general terms, applies to all: Come into this with an open mind and genuine drive to be constructive or to learn.RickterESO
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DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »@Rickter : whom are you talking to, or which specific post are you answering to ?
does it matter?
It was a general statement and one that applies. And honestly, the whole last page were a bunch of people saying to give this a chance and not be so quick to call people elitists and judge
There was one individual that triggered my posting this - but im not going to name and shame here. It applied to them, and it applies to all.
aka we have corruption already setting into this class rep thing..........great........... what are you even talking about? The reps have been fantastic so far.
read the guy that i quoteds big info post
Rickter? He's not a class rep man.
i know but from the sound of the post it just sounds like corruption is floating somewhere in it
I'm not sure where the implication of "corruption" is in my post. My post was not directed towards the class reps. My post was directed at the multitude of players who joined with their minds already made up about the program. What I've seen are people taking contrary positions on topics that are almost meaningless like the 3-4 hour disagreement over the general statement that "vampires arent generally utilized in PvP due to X reasons" - because a generalized statement like that triggers their confirmation bias in that the program is going to cater to the elite 1%.
Stuff like that is not constructive and counterproductive to this program's mission statement.
the way i read it its as if you were calling out a rep as it wasnt really clear. so i estimated that probly there was corruption already forming somewhere due to this. but im one of those players with my mind kinda already made up but mine isnt towards biases more towards it shouldnt be reps from the community doing it rather it should be zos figureing it out as whats stopping future imbalances after this. zos has to be the ones to do it not their reps or us the community.0 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Meaning: youre mind is already made up about this program. You are convinced this is a bad idea and your confirmation bias viewpoint looks for ways to support your conclusion.
It's not so, at all.
Not that I personally have an issue with the program.
However the 1% do not and have not ever represented the 99%. They mostly exist in a state of looking for a way to get a leg up on the 99% (usually by hook or by crook).
That would be the logical argument against "elites" balancing for "non elites", on top of the simple fact that people tend to not want to give up secrets and/or exploits and tend to use them.
If you think some of the elite pvper's included are going to balance what's broken and or being abused by their clique.. you haven't paid much attention to what actually occurs in this game. They will certainly be focusing on what can be abused or be used against them though...
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JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭duendology wrote: »So 12 Disciples of J-ESO -S.
I've been playing this game for over a year now...and as much as I am still inexperienced in many areas one thing I know.. there are no two gamers playing the same class the same way. So, 12 is not enough. Also, I learnt not to take this build or that build as a gospel...
Xynode's missing on this list, for instance.
And a few more.
I was JUST going to post I wish they’d have Xynode on the list. He has some interesting builds.
I wish Blobsky were on the list too. His stuff is a joy to watch. I think he said he’s not gonna contribute ideas on magdk or magblade or SOMETHING. Either way it’s a loss.Edited by JumpmanLane on June 7, 2018 12:36AM1 -
WeylandLabs✭✭✭✭✭Il pay 200$ to the class rep for a suggestion wink wink ! Zos never saw this coming class rep = corrupted politician/law enforcement. And theres no rules based on it ! When will ZOS learn this game isnt supposed to be based on communities exploiting the game.2
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swirve✭✭✭✭@anitasan900eb17_ESO
He was replying to me after following me around on discord because Kena and I were in disagreement on Vamps...
[edited to remove naming and shaming]
It started from my saying I play vamp in PvP and disputing how extreme the bad for vamps view...
I got told im uninformed or just RPing as no optimising player plays vamp in PvP... i said I mostly run in organised and disorganised groups of 6 to 24 and never found being vamp to be a horrible dying all the time experience... dawnbreakers, destro ultis and sieging dont wreck me constantly... i was then told my experience is wrong and im playing a different game... which the point of feedback is a range of views... i stated i find the risk n reward to be fine for vamps... i can change my lvl of vamp, adjust my CP to be told im just wrong and numbers cant be disputed, i then asked to see the numbers and got told no.... following on that guy started following me around onto another discord.Edited by ZOS_JesC on June 7, 2018 2:29PM0 -
swirve✭✭✭✭I dont dispute the experience of the 1% that is their experience, but that doesnt represent me... and my experience.
Hence my comment on 1% which also came up when I said i see DDs using chains in vMoL after saying sDK will be replaced by mDK in SS... in trials.
Top groups dont have DDs chaining but tanks do the chaining... which I dont dispute, but I do see vMoL DDs chaining still...which is what I said and hence mDKs will be replacing those sDKs... in some groups... i know sDKs who are respeccing to mDK due to SS... thiscwas on the DK trials thread.Edited by swirve on June 7, 2018 7:32AM0 -
Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Just wait until the next set of patch notes favour the “end game” button mashers, if light attacks get buffed again these threads are gonna go nuclear Edited by Integral1900 on June 7, 2018 10:10AM0 -
Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok guys, stay tuned: the first representative meeting with the devs is coming....soon. We will publish all things discussed in one document afterwards, so everyone has insight into that.1 -
Nifty2g✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno Are the reps allowed to ask ZOS questions during this whole meeting ordeal and get answers for certain things or is it just a show and tell type thing where ZOS just listens as they speakEdited by Nifty2g on June 7, 2018 5:44PM#MOREORBS0 -
Lake✭✭✭✭✭One of the class reps mentioned that Lead Combat Designer Wrobel won't be at the meeting. Is that true?0
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MaselClass RepresentativeOne of the class reps mentioned that Lead Combat Designer Wrobel won't be at the meeting. Is that true?
NopePC EU
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerOne of the class reps mentioned that Lead Combat Designer Wrobel won't be at the meeting. Is that true?
Fake news. He's sitting right next to me.12 -
Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Once the first set of minutes goes up there will be such a fur ball on this forum
Oops... need to get more popcorn
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