Pyandonean (Maormer) Motif!

Rosveen

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

mesmerizedish wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Smaxx wrote: »

Wayshuba wrote: »

Jewelry Crafting - Let's take the already heavy grind of crafting and researching nine tiers and multiply it by TEN. Why? So we can sell research scrolls, etc. This grind elimination is something that exists in free mobile games. It should not exist AT ALL in a B2P game with an optional sub. What other reason is there for Jewelry Crafting to have a completely different system than Blacksmithing, Clothing or Woodworking?

What exactly is different here? It's the very same system, unless I'm missing something? .

You are missing something.

Nirnhoned trait items drop in 10 pieces that need to be refined, out of 2 choices also with Fortified and Potent.

Jewelry trait items do the same AND the upgrade items do also with the same super rare drop chance as a Temper but 1/10th of the amount per drop.

It's insanely slow.

Nirnhoned trait items (fortified/potent nirncrux) do not need to be refined. You need one to make one nirnhoned item. The need to refine trait items and upgrade items for jewelcrafting is entirely unprecedented.

You get the original item as "nirncrux" a 1/10th part of "Potent Nirncrux".
Of course you wouldn't know that if you only buy it fully refined.

There is no such thing in the game. You loot Potent and Fortified Nirncrux directly from nodes, there is nothing to refine.

ringspells

If you intend to keep these motif pages in the crown crates, I'd suggest:

- Make them cost 14 gems instead of 16 to be closer to the 200 gems full motif books cost.
- Once the season of crates is over, add them to the crown store for direct purchase *and* to the game as drops so that people can still get them after the crates they came from leave the store.

This way people who want them straight away can gamble to get them with crates (or people who buy crates for other reasons can get them), but players who don't buy crates can also get them after a while.

Also, if you really want to make low tier rewards in crates better, there should be no consumables (potions, poisons, food/drink, soul gems, etc.) above white tier. I feel those shouldn't be in the crates at all, really.

Edrein

Esha76 wrote: »

It's funny you mention that... As I was reading other people's posts I was thinking: What if ZOS does the right thing, and drop this whole exclusive to RNG crates thing... Then puts more of these exclusively in the crown store. We're all then going to run around saying: "6000 (or maybe even up to 10000) crowns? Well thankfully they're not in those RNG loot boxes anymore..." ZOS will desensitize, and condition us, to their own nickle and dime'ing practices.

And the other really sad notion that just occurred to me... The following is all feelz, but still affects and matters to me none the less: I have been following this game since it was in beta. I have also watched the vast majority of ESO Live episodes. Up until recently, when I saw Gina or Jessica, it was exciting. They were about to tell us exciting news and updates about the game they clearly care so deeply about.

Now, when I see Gina or Jessica, my reaction is: "What marketing scripted manipulation are they going to try to sell me now?"

It's really sad. They are celebrities to many of us, for lack of a better term. Now they just seem to be a disheartening version of their former roles. Corrupted by the marketing leadership over there, turning them more into sales people, thus further perverting this great game.

"Let down" doesn't even begin to describe these decisions and changes being made by ZOS.

Don't get me wrong, I think 5000 crowns for a motif is insane. The 2000 for the original Grim Harlequin run was the best they ever did in my opinion.It included a good chunk of crown motif stones to accompany it, more than enough to create two or three sets.

But I'd rather directly fork over 5000 crowns than have to gamble upwards of 15000 or more just to get enough crown gems or RNG on the pages themselves to get the full motif.

Ragged_Claw

Interestingly it looks like a lot of AAA studios are backtracking on loot boxes and beginning to remove them from the games. Micro-transactions are here to stay, but it seems that the pressure being bought to bear by fans is starting to filter through to developers. Jim Sterling has been a vocal opponent and despite the comedy and profanity of his videos explains in depth why loot boxes even if just 'cosmetic' are seriously damaging to a game and its fan-base. I love ESO and don't want to see it die a premature death because of egregious money sucking practices. They managed to run the game and patch the game and produce dlc before there was even a cash store, they managed perfectly well before crown crates, lets now see an end to them or at least a much fairer system. Let us earn things in the game we PAID for, in the dlc we PAID for, in the chapters we PAID for and with the subs we continue to PAY for.

youtu.be/PK3BLwqt79U

Mystrius_Archaion

Recremen wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

mesmerizedish wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Smaxx wrote: »

Wayshuba wrote: »

Jewelry Crafting - Let's take the already heavy grind of crafting and researching nine tiers and multiply it by TEN. Why? So we can sell research scrolls, etc. This grind elimination is something that exists in free mobile games. It should not exist AT ALL in a B2P game with an optional sub. What other reason is there for Jewelry Crafting to have a completely different system than Blacksmithing, Clothing or Woodworking?

What exactly is different here? It's the very same system, unless I'm missing something? .

You are missing something.

Nirnhoned trait items drop in 10 pieces that need to be refined, out of 2 choices also with Fortified and Potent.

Jewelry trait items do the same AND the upgrade items do also with the same super rare drop chance as a Temper but 1/10th of the amount per drop.

It's insanely slow.

Nirnhoned trait items (fortified/potent nirncrux) do not need to be refined. You need one to make one nirnhoned item. The need to refine trait items and upgrade items for jewelcrafting is entirely unprecedented.

You get the original item as "nirncrux" a 1/10th part of "Potent Nirncrux".
Of course you wouldn't know that if you only buy it fully refined.

@Mystrius_Archaion

No, that's not how it works.

Ahh, I swear it was that way once. Oh well.
This just means jewelrycrafting is far worse than the Nirnhoned grind even more.

RebelFireStorm

I want to say I was surprised by this, but coming from ZoS it really doesn't surprise me. Unfortunately, this is just another new low. More unfortunately, enough people will continue to buy these crates (some even as they rail against them here on the forums) that ZoS will find it an acceptable practice and it'll likely become a common thing. (Just like all the other things they've gone back on their word about before)

Ah well. Just another step into the muck.

Jaeysa

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom - will they ever find their way into sealed writs? Or, like other Crown-only motifs will they not?

MalakithAlamahdi

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey all,

As with all systems, we read your feedback on Crown Crates and are always looking for more ways to make them a rewarding experience.

So you want to make it a rewarding experience? Why don't you make these motifs and cosmetics/ mounts obtainable by playing? You know, somthing you actually have to do something for besides pulling out your credit card. There is nothing rewarding about a gamble crate. This sounds like a statement made by EA.

https://tweakers.net/nieuws/137565/nederlandse-kansspelautoriteit-games-met-verhandelbare-lootboxes-zijn-onwettig.html

Good, the US might not see lootboxes as illegal but by goverment does. Let's hope others will also so this desease in gaming gets killed ones and for all.

OrdoHermetica

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

mesmerizedish wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Smaxx wrote: »

Wayshuba wrote: »

Jewelry Crafting - Let's take the already heavy grind of crafting and researching nine tiers and multiply it by TEN. Why? So we can sell research scrolls, etc. This grind elimination is something that exists in free mobile games. It should not exist AT ALL in a B2P game with an optional sub. What other reason is there for Jewelry Crafting to have a completely different system than Blacksmithing, Clothing or Woodworking?

What exactly is different here? It's the very same system, unless I'm missing something? .

You are missing something.

Nirnhoned trait items drop in 10 pieces that need to be refined, out of 2 choices also with Fortified and Potent.

Jewelry trait items do the same AND the upgrade items do also with the same super rare drop chance as a Temper but 1/10th of the amount per drop.

It's insanely slow.

Nirnhoned trait items (fortified/potent nirncrux) do not need to be refined. You need one to make one nirnhoned item. The need to refine trait items and upgrade items for jewelcrafting is entirely unprecedented.

You get the original item as "nirncrux" a 1/10th part of "Potent Nirncrux".
Of course you wouldn't know that if you only buy it fully refined.


Edit: I stand corrected below.

I'm guessing you're thinking of rare style materials, which do require 10 "Grains of Pearl Sand" or the like for one style material.

Turelus

ringspells wrote: »

If you intend to keep these motif pages in the crown crates, I'd suggest:

- Make them cost 14 gems instead of 16 to be closer to the 200 gems full motif books cost.
- Once the season of crates is over, add them to the crown store for direct purchase *and* to the game as drops so that people can still get them after the crates they came from leave the store.

This way people who want them straight away can gamble to get them with crates (or people who buy crates for other reasons can get them), but players who don't buy crates can also get them after a while.

Also, if you really want to make low tier rewards in crates better, there should be no consumables (potions, poisons, food/drink, soul gems, etc.) above white tier. I feel those shouldn't be in the crates at all, really.

This bold part is what actual options look like. Not the choice to buy them with gems or buy more crates, neither of those are an option.
At least when other AAA games spew the "options" and "player choice" rubbish there is actually the choice to grind for months for the things. ESO options is cheque or credit card.

eso_nya

Seriously, stop with the compromise ideas.

The idea behind package deals is, to sell 1 desired item plus 4 undesired items for the price of 3 items. To make it look, like u get the stuff cheaper/for free when u r actually paying extra.
"Mystery" packages r an even worse offender, as they can be empty. Envy is the most likely thing to be exploited to get ppl to buy them.

In order to make crowncarates "fair" they need to:
- trade in any item u dont want, no matter if u have it or not
- trade in for full gem value
-> that means, u basicaly trade crowns for gems at a random ratio, so granted amount of gems/crate
-> could just get rid of extra currentcy and put the stuff up in the normal store

Compromises will just increase the list of broken promises:
- eso+ will give u enough crowns to buy anything u need from crownstore
- eso+ will never have to pay extra for downloadable content
- u will be able to purchase anything from crates for gems

How long until:
"To make crowncrates more rewarding and exiting, there is a new apex reward "dragon dust", u can refine 10 of those dusts into 1 shard, if u collect 10 shards, all need to do is get an radiant apex dragon glue and turn the shards into one random dragon body part. Collecting all 50 of them, will grant u the awesome flying dragon mount."

Its a downward spiral: the more greedy cash shop gets, the more players leave the game. In order to keep income up, the shop gets more greedy.

Lord_Ninka

Not just another crown exclusive (which I'm not exactly crazy about in the first place) but a crown crate exclusive style? That's... Really lame. The excuse that it's to please people by improving blue rewards is clever. Because we're certainly not supposed to think that it's done to make people buy more crates to learn all of this exclusive style without knowing the price beforehand, are we? ZOS is just asking people to gamble more in their casino where you use real money and get virtual things. If they just wanted to improve blue items they would have done just that, but they did something else.

Seriously, ZOS, I spend plenty of money on this game every year with subscription and expansions, and I feel that something so big as a style shouldn't force me to gamble away even more money to get it, not even knowing in advance the amount of real money I need to spend. I'm unhappy with this. And before someone says it's only to my advantage if others spend a lot on crown crates: it doesn't please me in general that you get people with gambling problems to pay for the game for me either. I would much prefer you to raise the subsription price or something if I'm not paying enough and stop with the "please please please gamble gamble gamble". At the very least you should put important rewards like styles that can't be obtained in-game in the crown store with a specific price tag. It's shady when you don't.

Wayshuba

eso_nya wrote: »

Its a downward spiral: the more greedy cash shop gets, the more players leave the game. In order to keep income up, the shop gets more greedy.

I think it is less about how greedy the cash shop itself gets and more about parts of the game increasingly being locked behind the shop instead of it being an option.

A few examples:

- Exclusive houses only available through cash shop.

- Mounts. When is the last time a mount was added as a reward in game? Never. Even the mount given to Morrowind purchasers still required a cash purchase.

- Battlegrounds. A PvP area that is currently behind a paywall.

- Motifs and Outfits. Same.

- Outfit Slots - No option to purchase extra slots with in game gold, like other MMOs. Only MMO to have something in shop to "change" clothes.

See the point. More and more of the rewards which should be added in game become systems locked behind a cash wall.

Think of it this way. If ESO had originally survived on just the subs, how different do you think the things above would be?

Arciris

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey all,

As with all systems, we read your feedback on Crown Crates and are always looking for more ways to make them a rewarding experience. One of the pieces of feedback on Crown Crates we heard was that the blue-tier items didn’t feel as rewarding as our players would like. For as long as Crown Crates have been active, you have been guaranteed at least one blue-quality card or better in every Crown Crate, so these items are some of the most common Crown Crate items.

To address this feedback, starting with the Psijic Vault Crown Crates, we looked to improve the blue-quality Crown Crate rewards by adding an exclusive Motif – the Pyandonean Motif – to that tier. The goal was to add a bit more excitement to receiving a blue-tier item from a crate. However, we also wanted players to feel like there was more than one way to get this Motif, so we made sure that you will be able to purchase the Motif pages with Crown Gems. That way, if you don’t get it inside a crate, you’re not prevented from acquiring it all together. The Motif pages are also account-bound items not collectibles, which means that you can convert every one you get into Crown Gems if you want. It’s also worth noting that all players have the opportunity to receive free Crown Crates during special events, as well as through the future Daily Rewards system.

Watch for full details regarding the Motif pages and how you can obtain them in our upcoming Psijic Vault Crown Crate article.

First and foremost, thank you @ZOS_JessicaFolsom for replying here.
I'm not a regular poster but I am an avid and daily reader of this forums (I like popcorn :P)
I will not enter the debate of whether Crates are a good or a bad thing, I left enough Agree'ss and Awesome's through the thread for that purpose .
Instead, I will put myself in the shoes of a big spender that likes Crown Crates, based of threads that I have read here and feedback I got from in-game friends.
So, it seems your Crown Crates are not selling as much as you expect anymore, therefore you're trying to "make it a more rewarding experience".
The main issue is that you drove away your whales with 1) the introduction of Radiant Apex mounts (that broke the promise that everything would be purchasable with gems) and 2) the dilution (pollution) of the loot tables.
All Crown Crates sympathizers agree that the first 2 seasons were the best ones. Why? Because they didn't have 1 and 2.
You guys need to go back to that model.
Some suggestions:
- Move the lipsticks, tattoos, emotes and other (that should be) really cheap stuff into the green category.
- Blue category should be personalities, some costumes (others can be next tier), some (other can be next tier) pets, cheaper furniture like banners (they all look alike anyway).
- Let us turn any item we don't want (repeated or not) in gems, even if that means lowering just a little bit the conversion rate - no one likes to see their collection menu polluted with unwanted stuff.
- Make Radiant mounts purchasable with gems (1.5k, 2k, you name it) - this is the big turn off I have read from Whales: after spending 1000$ + they still don't get what they want and will not fall for it a second time.

My personal experience: so far I have bought 3k worth in crates (2 different seasons). I would have spent 0 but your free crates gave me gems, and I wanted some more of these to outright buy some shinnies So, free crates are working as expected.
However, the more you dilute the loot tables, the less likely it is that I will ever repeat the experience if I cannot trade unwanted stuff into gems.
And putting exclusive motifs in there, pages or full books alike, will not change that, and worse: it will directly (negatively) impact my enjoyment of a game mechanic (crafting). Meaning I would spend less in the game overall.
Exclusive cosmetics are one thing, as they don't impact game play, but motifs do impact game play, and those can not be double gated (paywall and RNG).
However, i would be somewhat OK (just somewhat) if whatever motif you put in there is also obtainable in game (as long as drop rates are reasonable).

Thanks for reading and have a nice day

OutLaw_Nynx

Ragged_Claw wrote: »

Interestingly it looks like a lot of AAA studios are backtracking on loot boxes and beginning to remove them from the games. Micro-transactions are here to stay, but it seems that the pressure being bought to bear by fans is starting to filter through to developers. Jim Sterling has been a vocal opponent and despite the comedy and profanity of his videos explains in depth why loot boxes even if just 'cosmetic' are seriously damaging to a game and its fan-base. I love ESO and don't want to see it die a premature death because of egregious money sucking practices. They managed to run the game and patch the game and produce dlc before there was even a cash store, they managed perfectly well before crown crates, lets now see an end to them or at least a much fairer system. Let us earn things in the game we PAID for, in the dlc we PAID for, in the chapters we PAID for and with the subs we continue to PAY for.

youtu.be/PK3BLwqt79U

@Ragged_Claw

I have a love hate with Jim, but I would love to see him cover the bull crap Zos is pulling.

Casdha

Simple solution, have all motifs available in crown crates, have the ability to cash them in for gems in case of duplicates and/or just ones you don't care to have and also have every motif available in game as well by playing the game's various content. That way if there is a motif tied to content you don't like playing, you can attempt to get with crown crates but you still have the option to get it with content, even if it is content you don't play.

I might even make it a separate system like crafting crates that don't rotate by season but get updated with every new motif that comes out.

Avran_Sylt

Make the worst case Loot Box have it's contents able to be exchanged for the baseline item acquired.
(Currently Superior is 16 Gems. Each box is guaranteed a superior. Worst case box is a duplicate superior and only 3 commons. Totaling 8 Gems. This needs to be increased by 8, such that each box will get you the value of a Superior).

Make Loot Boxes the cheapest alternative to get an item. With the caveat that you don't get to choose what that item is.

Loot Boxes are now AoE purchasing (lower cost per item, random selection) , but the consumer can purchase single-target as well (higher cost per item, selection based).

At least, that's my understanding on how loot boxes should work.

Though, thinking more on it, purchasing individual items themselves should cost less than the Worst Case Crate example, as otherwise there would be zero reason not to just purchase the crates, as it's cheaper to get a specific item via gem conversion.

Aeslief

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Make the worst case Loot Box have it's contents able to be exchanged for the baseline item acquired.
(Currently Superior is 16 Gems. Each box is guaranteed a superior. Worst case box is a duplicate superior and only 3 commons. Totaling 8 Gems. This needs to be increased by 8, such that each box will get you the value of a Superior).

This is an excellent suggestion for making every box feel like it was worth the 400 crowns you spent on it, rather than the current dichotomy of almost every box being either a jackpot (if you got the mount you wanted) or a zonk (if you got no mount and the blue card is a duplicate collectable lipstick that you didn't even want in the first place).

Thrawniel

Crafting event that just ended is a good illustration of how 'good' odds of completing the motif will be.

During event I opened around 1,5k event boxes (have 11 alts, so 66 boxes a day from crafting dailies+as much other dailies I cared to do on my main on a certain day), and I have not completed Worm Cult Motif. Still have four items missing.

I have several duplicates of WC pages and I can trade them or sell them and use the money to buy pieces I still need, so I will get complete motif after maintenance ends.

But with Crown Crate motif it won't be an option (and don't say 'gem conversion'! You get only fraction of the cost of the page!)

And even with lesser motifs... I did not get all 14 pages for any of them. So even with common motifs like AD/DC/EP ones (which I already owned, so it was easy to count duplicates) I did not get a full motif.

So, not a single complete motif from nearly 1500 crates. They ofc were free and part of the game, so I do not mind those odds. That's what selling/trading is for.

But if you apply it to Crown Crates - it gets ultra-shady.

Guess it was your plan all along - to get ppl buy your stupid boxes in thousands?

Banana

Wow, the first motif Im not going to bother collecting.

MasterSpatula

Sure wish ZOS had announced this before I bought Summerset, because this might very well be a dealbreaker.

Maulkin

Dracane wrote: »

Omg the Sapiarchs style is the Thalmor style from Skyrim. I've been waiting for years.

Dracane wrote: »

Hang on my dear, I shall reveal to you.



This is the full heavy armor (Yes, the head is Psijic, sorry) The heavy armor actually looks more light than the light armor version.

Meh. Another full cover, floor-length robe. How many more of those do we need?

While these are mostly well designed and fairly reminiscent of the Thalmor robes, I was hoping for robe-like breeches with a split in the middle, like the original Thalmor robes (pic below).

I'm tired of having to put Celestial Breeches on all my male magicka chars. If you want that "split robe" look, you pick either Celestial or a robe that incorporates it as part of the design and hides the breeches (Ebony, Worm Cult etc.) Which unfortunately ties you to the choice of chest.

If you want only the breeches to pair them with a different chest your only option is Celestial.

Vicarra

Really, really hope that this motif style is not going to be put into the Master Writ tables. Especially since these pages are not tradeable in game.

Turelus

Vicarra wrote: »

Really, really hope that this motif style is not going to be put into the Master Writ tables. Especially since these pages are not tradeable in game.

I am pretty sure Crown Exclusives will always be omitted from those tables. Otherwise they would have a riot on their hands, especially as those writs would require Mimic Stones or the stones from broken down items.

anitajoneb17_ESO

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey all,

As with all systems, we read your feedback on Crown Crates and are always looking for more ways to make them a rewarding experience. One of the pieces of feedback on Crown Crates we heard was that the blue-tier items didn’t feel as rewarding as our players would like. For as long as Crown Crates have been active, you have been guaranteed at least one blue-quality card or better in every Crown Crate, so these items are some of the most common Crown Crate items.

To address this feedback, starting with the Psijic Vault Crown Crates, we looked to improve the blue-quality Crown Crate rewards by adding an exclusive Motif – the Pyandonean Motif – to that tier. The goal was to add a bit more excitement to receiving a blue-tier item from a crate. However, we also wanted players to feel like there was more than one way to get this Motif, so we made sure that you will be able to purchase the Motif pages with Crown Gems. That way, if you don’t get it inside a crate, you’re not prevented from acquiring it all together. The Motif pages are also account-bound items not collectibles, which means that you can convert every one you get into Crown Gems if you want. It’s also worth noting that all players have the opportunity to receive free Crown Crates during special events, as well as through the future Daily Rewards system.

Watch for full details regarding the Motif pages and how you can obtain them in our upcoming Psijic Vault Crown Crate article.

You have a pretty selective reading of feedback. There were far more people complaining about nice stuff being gated behind crates, than people complaining about crates not containing enough nice stuff. As a result, putting more nice stuff in crates isn't the proper decision.

I understand it's a valid decision if your goal is to sell more crates, but not if you want to make more people happy.

Please do not take this personally - I know you don't get to decide about those things. But to claim that this is a decision based on feedback is just soooo hypocritical...

I just hope there will be enough crates dropping from the login rewards, and again enough pages and gemmable items dropping from those crates, to hope to have that motif some day.

maboleth

JD2013 wrote: »

With every content update, we get:

A small zone with enough content to last a day or two. But wait! New Crown Crates! Crown Store exclusive costumes! Crown Store limited time mounts, Crown Store exclusive houses, Crown Store full Motif books, Crown Store non combat pets!

A day or two? Pleeeease.
I see the point you are trying to make about Crates, but those "small zones" are definitely not small enough to last a day or two. Far from it.

I play this game almost every day, doing all kinds of activities and questing is one of them - I STILL haven't finished Morrowind or Clockwork city. Unlike most, I actually love to immerse myself into questing, listening to the dialogue and trying to soak up the story lines and admire the level of detail of the ES world. Because there's so much to see and lore puzzles to connect.

So yeah, mindlessly roaming over the digital world, rushing through quests like there's no tomorrow, could be finished in a few days, but don't tell me this is the norm how this game should be played. Because it isn't. Actually players that do that makes it all seem utterly pointless.

Bloodystab

I hope there is a boiler in hell for the person who introduced the idea of Loot Boxes...

In past, You paid for game and was able to get everything.
Now i have to Pay to be able to pay more to be able to get random things.

SorataArisugawa

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey all,

As with all systems, we read your feedback on Crown Crates and are always looking for more ways to make them a rewarding experience. One of the pieces of feedback on Crown Crates we heard was that the blue-tier items didn’t feel as rewarding as our players would like. For as long as Crown Crates have been active, you have been guaranteed at least one blue-quality card or better in every Crown Crate, so these items are some of the most common Crown Crate items.

To address this feedback, starting with the Psijic Vault Crown Crates, we looked to improve the blue-quality Crown Crate rewards by adding an exclusive Motif – the Pyandonean Motif – to that tier. The goal was to add a bit more excitement to receiving a blue-tier item from a crate. However, we also wanted players to feel like there was more than one way to get this Motif, so we made sure that you will be able to purchase the Motif pages with Crown Gems. That way, if you don’t get it inside a crate, you’re not prevented from acquiring it all together. The Motif pages are also account-bound items not collectibles, which means that you can convert every one you get into Crown Gems if you want. It’s also worth noting that all players have the opportunity to receive free Crown Crates during special events, as well as through the future Daily Rewards system.

Watch for full details regarding the Motif pages and how you can obtain them in our upcoming Psijic Vault Crown Crate article.

You have a pretty selective reading of feedback. There were far more people complaining about nice stuff being gated behind crates, than people complaining about crates not containing enough nice stuff. As a result, putting more nice stuff in crates isn't the proper decision.

I understand it's a valid decision if your goal is to sell more crates, but not if you want to make more people happy.

Please do not take this personally - I know you don't get to decide about those things. But to claim that this is a decision based on feedback is just soooo hypocritical...

I just hope there will be enough crates dropping from the login rewards, and again enough pages and gemmable items dropping from those crates, to hope to have that motif some day.

^This

We know is not your fault @ZOS_JessicaFolsom, you are just the messenger. But relay our opinion to the person (we know who it is), who is in charge of this, excuse me here, stupid desicion. Nice try of her to hide behind your nice wording, but it was useless!

Syncronaut

Bloodystab wrote: »

I hope there is a boiler in hell for the person who introduced the idea of Loot Boxes...

In past, You paid for game and was able to get everything.
Now i have to Pay to be able to pay more to be able to get random things.

This guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wilson_(businessman)

But dont worry guys, the law, while its slow will hit them back. Its their last chance to milk money out of you with this trash.

Smaxx

I still blame Blizzard and Overwatch for bringing RNG loot boxes in full paid games to the masses and get them „accepted“…