PTS Update 18 - [SPOILERS] Feedback Thread for Summerset Main Quest

WhiteNoiseMaker

I'm still working on the questline, but so far I haven't had any voiced NPC dialogue. Is this just me or am I missing something here?

Iselin

WhiteNoiseMaker wrote: »

I'm still working on the questline, but so far I haven't had any voiced NPC dialogue. Is this just me or am I missing something here?

Yeah, it's just you. You might want to have a look at your audio settings.

SilverIce58

Iselin wrote: »

WhiteNoiseMaker wrote: »

I'm still working on the questline, but so far I haven't had any voiced NPC dialogue. Is this just me or am I missing something here?

Yeah, it's just you. You might want to have a look at your audio settings.

Sometimes I don't hear any npcs speaking either, and it's not just here for this chapter. When I did Orsinium, a few npcs weren't speaking but the subtitles were appearing. So it's not just you.

Iselin

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

WhiteNoiseMaker wrote: »

I'm still working on the questline, but so far I haven't had any voiced NPC dialogue. Is this just me or am I missing something here?

Yeah, it's just you. You might want to have a look at your audio settings.

Sometimes I don't hear any npcs speaking either, and it's not just here for this chapter. When I did Orsinium, a few npcs weren't speaking but the subtitles were appearing. So it's not just you.

So you sometimes have similar technical issues as the other guy. I guess he's happy to hear that. OTOH I always hear the NPCs speak if the sound file exists... I must be just lucky

The first week here in the PTS there were some sound files missing from some NPCs. That was a known issue and was reflected in the 4.0 patch notes. Now, not so much and certainly not " I haven't had any voiced NPC dialogue."

SilverIce58

Iselin wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

WhiteNoiseMaker wrote: »

I'm still working on the questline, but so far I haven't had any voiced NPC dialogue. Is this just me or am I missing something here?

Yeah, it's just you. You might want to have a look at your audio settings.

Sometimes I don't hear any npcs speaking either, and it's not just here for this chapter. When I did Orsinium, a few npcs weren't speaking but the subtitles were appearing. So it's not just you.

So you sometimes have similar technical issues as the other guy. I guess he's happy to hear that. OTOH I always hear the NPCs speak if the sound file exists... I must be just lucky

Or maybe it's just a bug that some people experience and not everyone.

Iselin

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

WhiteNoiseMaker wrote: »

I'm still working on the questline, but so far I haven't had any voiced NPC dialogue. Is this just me or am I missing something here?

Yeah, it's just you. You might want to have a look at your audio settings.

Sometimes I don't hear any npcs speaking either, and it's not just here for this chapter. When I did Orsinium, a few npcs weren't speaking but the subtitles were appearing. So it's not just you.

So you sometimes have similar technical issues as the other guy. I guess he's happy to hear that. OTOH I always hear the NPCs speak if the sound file exists... I must be just lucky

Or maybe it's just a bug that some people experience and not everyone.

Yeah? How widespread is this bug? Are you also not hearing ANY voiced NPC dialogue?

When things don't work right it's always a bug. Sometimes a bug with the game if a lot of people experience the same thing and sometimes - wait for it - it's just you and your machine.

SilverIce58

Iselin wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

WhiteNoiseMaker wrote: »

I'm still working on the questline, but so far I haven't had any voiced NPC dialogue. Is this just me or am I missing something here?

Yeah, it's just you. You might want to have a look at your audio settings.

Sometimes I don't hear any npcs speaking either, and it's not just here for this chapter. When I did Orsinium, a few npcs weren't speaking but the subtitles were appearing. So it's not just you.

So you sometimes have similar technical issues as the other guy. I guess he's happy to hear that. OTOH I always hear the NPCs speak if the sound file exists... I must be just lucky

Or maybe it's just a bug that some people experience and not everyone.

Yeah? How widespread is this bug? Are you also not hearing ANY voiced NPC dialogue?

When things don't work right it's always a bug. Sometimes a bug with the game if a lot of people experience the same thing and sometimes - wait for it - it's just you and your machine.

You're getting awfully defensive about something that may or may not be a bug.

SilverIce58

Iselin wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

WhiteNoiseMaker wrote: »

I'm still working on the questline, but so far I haven't had any voiced NPC dialogue. Is this just me or am I missing something here?

Yeah, it's just you. You might want to have a look at your audio settings.

Sometimes I don't hear any npcs speaking either, and it's not just here for this chapter. When I did Orsinium, a few npcs weren't speaking but the subtitles were appearing. So it's not just you.

So you sometimes have similar technical issues as the other guy. I guess he's happy to hear that. OTOH I always hear the NPCs speak if the sound file exists... I must be just lucky

Or maybe it's just a bug that some people experience and not everyone.

Yeah? How widespread is this bug? Are you also not hearing ANY voiced NPC dialogue?

When things don't work right it's always a bug. Sometimes a bug with the game if a lot of people experience the same thing and sometimes - wait for it - it's just you and your machine.

You're getting awfully defensive about something that may or may not be a bug.

Iselin

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

WhiteNoiseMaker wrote: »

I'm still working on the questline, but so far I haven't had any voiced NPC dialogue. Is this just me or am I missing something here?

Yeah, it's just you. You might want to have a look at your audio settings.

Sometimes I don't hear any npcs speaking either, and it's not just here for this chapter. When I did Orsinium, a few npcs weren't speaking but the subtitles were appearing. So it's not just you.

So you sometimes have similar technical issues as the other guy. I guess he's happy to hear that. OTOH I always hear the NPCs speak if the sound file exists... I must be just lucky

Or maybe it's just a bug that some people experience and not everyone.

Yeah? How widespread is this bug? Are you also not hearing ANY voiced NPC dialogue?

When things don't work right it's always a bug. Sometimes a bug with the game if a lot of people experience the same thing and sometimes - wait for it - it's just you and your machine.

You're getting awfully defensive about something that may or may not be a bug.

You are getting repetitive... sorry couldn't resist.

I'm trying to get the guy who wrote that about no NPC sounds to troubleshoot his problem rationally by pointing him in the most likely direction. You OTOH are just butting in and contributing nothing other than "yeah that happened to me once on Orsiniium so it's not just you."

I have nothing to defend. I'm just calling out your lack of helpful insight in this instance.

Auldjohn

Only issues I've encountered are Quest Markers frequently need extreme zoom out to see the arrow. When the next objective is a delve entry point Journal zooms to Delve entrance. Place marker but zoom to M often still doesn't show arrow. Because of NDA didn't save any screenshots.

@ZOS_GinaBruno or @ZOS_JessicaFolsom where can we save a screenshot to an external site if the image might be under NDA to link to PTS Forum post?

Enodoc

Enodoc wrote: »

The Queen's Decree
All of the dialogue and background surrounding this quest makes it seem like the Monastery is closed down and off-limits. One of the monks even says the others will raise the alarm if they see you. However, the monastery itself is open without any restrictions, and while the monks and guards will complain if they see you, nothing comes of it. Either the monastery should be made a Restricted Area (Trespassing), or the references to it being off-limits should be removed.

Disappointed to see that we have hit the last patch and the Monastery is still subject to the faux-Justice concept.

Iselin

Enodoc wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

The Queen's Decree
All of the dialogue and background surrounding this quest makes it seem like the Monastery is closed down and off-limits. One of the monks even says the others will raise the alarm if they see you. However, the monastery itself is open without any restrictions, and while the monks and guards will complain if they see you, nothing comes of it. Either the monastery should be made a Restricted Area (Trespassing), or the references to it being off-limits should be removed.

Disappointed to see that we have hit the last patch and the Monastery is still subject to the faux-Justice concept.

I agree that entry is trivialized and the yellow-glow NPCs inside make it clear that at least at one point in development they meant for this to be trespassing game play. OTOH, and IMO, they overdid the trespassing game play in Morrowind. I neither need it nor want it in Summerset.

Elsterchen

Not sure if this is intentional, but every time I pick up a quest along the way my target quest changes to the newly picked up quest.

If this is intended, please reconsider. Its breaking immersion as its disturbing that you have to keep an eye on your current quest (and need to reset this quest manually everytime you happen to stumble over something else interesting). Adding to it, it clutters your journal as you zoom all over the place picking up quests without finishing any quest.

Lylith

Elsterchen wrote: »

Not sure if this is intentional, but every time I pick up a quest along the way my target quest changes to the newly picked up quest.

If this is intended, please reconsider. Its breaking immersion as its disturbing that you have to keep an eye on your current quest (and need to reset this quest manually everytime you happen to stumble over something else interesting). Adding to it, it clutters your journal as you zoom all over the place picking up quests without finishing any quest.

totally agree.

completely unnecessary and quite aggravating, tbh.

TiaFrye

So, anyone have reached the Evergloam yet? Was Nocturnal updated at last or she will be a huge disappointment for non-testers after May 21st?

Aliyavana

does anyone know if nocturnal still looks like a budget cosplayer?

AefionBloodclaw

Aliyavana wrote: »

does anyone know if nocturnal still looks like a budget cosplayer?

I'm sure she probably does, somehow I doubt ZoS will have bothered to update her...

AefionBloodclaw

Elsterchen wrote: »

Not sure if this is intentional, but every time I pick up a quest along the way my target quest changes to the newly picked up quest.

If this is intended, please reconsider. Its breaking immersion as its disturbing that you have to keep an eye on your current quest (and need to reset this quest manually everytime you happen to stumble over something else interesting). Adding to it, it clutters your journal as you zoom all over the place picking up quests without finishing any quest.

I think they discussed this "being a new feature" I can't remember where. But I don't understand how they can see it as a great new feature, there's an entire thread discussing how frustrating it is, and that most players hate it.

Darlon

AefionBloodclaw wrote: »

Elsterchen wrote: »

Not sure if this is intentional, but every time I pick up a quest along the way my target quest changes to the newly picked up quest.

If this is intended, please reconsider. Its breaking immersion as its disturbing that you have to keep an eye on your current quest (and need to reset this quest manually everytime you happen to stumble over something else interesting). Adding to it, it clutters your journal as you zoom all over the place picking up quests without finishing any quest.

I think they discussed this "being a new feature" I can't remember where. But I don't understand how they can see it as a great new feature, there's an entire thread discussing how frustrating it is, and that most players hate it.

These are probably the same people that thought it a good idea to hide skill lines from players with the Morrowind Chapter...

TiaFrye

Aliyavana wrote: »

does anyone know if nocturnal still looks like a budget cosplayer?

Just finished the quest in Evergloam. And yes, budget-cosplay!Nocturnal is still a thing.
I don't even know why this thread exist if all our complaints about her looks were completely ignored for an entire month.

Aliyavana

TiaFrye wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

does anyone know if nocturnal still looks like a budget cosplayer?

Just finished the quest in Evergloam. And yes, budget-cosplay!Nocturnal is still a thing.
I don't even know why this thread exist if all our complaints about her looks were completely ignored for an entire month.

Weird how the daedric prince able to banish two other princes still looks like a budget cosplayer

SilverIce58

Aliyavana wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

does anyone know if nocturnal still looks like a budget cosplayer?

Just finished the quest in Evergloam. And yes, budget-cosplay!Nocturnal is still a thing.
I don't even know why this thread exist if all our complaints about her looks were completely ignored for an entire month.

Weird how the daedric prince able to banish two other princes still looks like a budget cosplayer

Even Clavicus Vile looks better and all he's got is golden skin, horns, and the fancy 1k crown imperial tunic.

Aliyavana

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

does anyone know if nocturnal still looks like a budget cosplayer?

Just finished the quest in Evergloam. And yes, budget-cosplay!Nocturnal is still a thing.
I don't even know why this thread exist if all our complaints about her looks were completely ignored for an entire month.

Weird how the daedric prince able to banish two other princes still looks like a budget cosplayer

Even Clavicus Vile looks better and all he's got is golden skin, horns, and the fancy 1k crown imperial tunic.

clavicus vile is essentially a fancy bosmer, but he looks far more elegant than the ur daedra, LOL

KwarcPL

AefionBloodclaw wrote: »

I think they discussed this "being a new feature" I can't remember where. But I don't understand how they can see it as a great new feature, there's an entire thread discussing how frustrating it is, and that most players hate it.

So do I. I'm on track of some intriguing task, but half way in I realised that I was running in wrong direction, because some NPC switched it to his one. I have to change it back after talk with every quest-giver. It's not that good at all.

Aliyavana wrote: »

does anyone know if nocturnal still looks like a budget cosplayer?

She looks exactly like in Daggerfall, Oblivion and Skyrim.

Aliyavana wrote: »

clavicus vile is essentially a fancy bosmer, but he looks far more elegant than the ur daedra, LOL

He's more of fancy Skaafin

Aliyavana

KwarcPL wrote: »

AefionBloodclaw wrote: »

I think they discussed this "being a new feature" I can't remember where. But I don't understand how they can see it as a great new feature, there's an entire thread discussing how frustrating it is, and that most players hate it.

So do I. I'm on track of some intriguing task, but half way in I realised that I was running in wrong direction, because some NPC switched it to his one. I have to change it back after talk with every quest-giver. It's not that good at all.

Aliyavana wrote: »

does anyone know if nocturnal still looks like a budget cosplayer?

She looks exactly like in Daggerfall, Oblivion and Skyrim.

Aliyavana wrote: »

clavicus vile is essentially a fancy bosmer, but he looks far more elegant than the ur daedra, LOL

He's more of fancy Skaafin

She looks far better in skyrim, if she looked exactly like in skyrim there would be no complaints. Her dress in eso looks like it's made of a cheap fake fabric and in skyrim the coloring is a lot more elegant.

Adding long hair to appear through the hood would help and crows laying on her shoulders and a appearance that set her apart from any common redguard or breton would be fine. In skyrim she was a very pale breton which blended well with the robes, and npcs didn't get that pale. If they want to go the redguard route they should make her skin color very dark as it would fit the theme of the night

KwarcPL

Aliyavana wrote: »

She looks far better in skyrim, if she looked exactly like in skyrim there would be no complaints. Her dress in eso looks like it's made of a cheap fake fabric and in skyrim the coloring is a lot more elegant.

Oh, you had this in mind. In this case I must agree, you're totally right. Nocturnal looks just bland. Random NPC you've already forgot have better appearance than Ur-Dra herself. I don't know, maybe that giant featureless potato-shaped head floating over Crystal-Like-Law was homage to Oblivion? But jokes aside, they could give more efford in modeling her and her clothes.

Aliyavana

KwarcPL wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

She looks far better in skyrim, if she looked exactly like in skyrim there would be no complaints. Her dress in eso looks like it's made of a cheap fake fabric and in skyrim the coloring is a lot more elegant.

Oh, you had this in mind. In this case I must agree, you're totally right. Nocturnal looks just bland. Random NPC you've already forgot have better appearance than Ur-Dra herself. I don't know, maybe that giant featureless potato-shaped head floating over Crystal-Like-Law was homage to Oblivion? But jokes aside, they could give more efford in modeling her and her clothes.

I hope that she gets a much needed makeover by live

BigBadVolk

Aliyavana wrote: »

KwarcPL wrote: »

AefionBloodclaw wrote: »

I think they discussed this "being a new feature" I can't remember where. But I don't understand how they can see it as a great new feature, there's an entire thread discussing how frustrating it is, and that most players hate it.

So do I. I'm on track of some intriguing task, but half way in I realised that I was running in wrong direction, because some NPC switched it to his one. I have to change it back after talk with every quest-giver. It's not that good at all.

Aliyavana wrote: »

does anyone know if nocturnal still looks like a budget cosplayer?

She looks exactly like in Daggerfall, Oblivion and Skyrim.

Aliyavana wrote: »

clavicus vile is essentially a fancy bosmer, but he looks far more elegant than the ur daedra, LOL

He's more of fancy Skaafin

She looks far better in skyrim, if she looked exactly like in skyrim there would be no complaints. Her dress in eso looks like it's made of a cheap fake fabric and in skyrim the coloring is a lot more elegant.

Adding long hair to appear through the hood would help and crows laying on her shoulders and a appearance that set her apart from any common redguard or breton would be fine. In skyrim she was a very pale breton which blended well with the robes, and npcs didn't get that pale. If they want to go the redguard route they should make her skin color very dark as it would fit the theme of the night

also if she would get a purple glowing eye with the puprple glowy stripes or whatever they called which appears on the new skin but not with the dark rotten skin but with a pale white one, that would make here more intimadeting, at least atm she's more of a joke than a threat

KwarcPL

About Nocturnal... look at this random Shrike (Nocturnal's minion). For me she looks far better than her Queen. Gave her that bathrobe from Skyrim and tell it's Nocturnal herself.

MourncallerTV

Where is it? I've look all over the place. Serious every inch I can think of even trying to climb and jump and find nothing. Did someone forget to put it in? or is there a glitch and the node is beneath the rock?


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