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Cyrodiil Updates for Update 18

ZOS_BrianWheeler
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Lead PvP Designer
Here is some news about Cyrodiil for update 18 (the Summerset update). There are more things coming for the update besides what is listed here and we’ll detail those in the coming months, but here’s a start:

Server Performance: Several requirements that were part of ability passives have been converted to server side encoded checks, which will cut down on requirements ran per ability use.

Client Performance: We have increased the amount of cpu cores used by the client which should improve framerate for players on mid to high end CPU's on PC platforms. On consoles and PC we have improved how characters are composited resulting in faster character loads and less framerate spikes.

Defense ticks no longer require you to sit and wait in an objective for the tick. Instead, each type of objective will track whether you’ve earned credit towards a defense or offense tick. Earning the offense or defense "tick" is pretty easy, and you earn credit for pretty much everything except standing there doing nothing. Offense ticks still have a base value that will be granted regardless of being on the credit list, but any bonus AP earned by combat around and inside an objective will only be granted to players that are on the credit lists.

You can be on several credit lists for a Keep superstructure of a Keep, Mine, Lumbermill and Farm and earn Defense ticks for each of them, however if you defend or attack a new Keep superstructure, your credit will be removed.

On top of that, we've increased the amount of Alliance Points you can earn from a Keep Defense with a multiplier based on the lowest ranking Resource of that keep. This is meant to encourage defending the entire superstructure of a Keep and it's supporting structures.

Lastly regarding Keeps themselves, we’ve added a new Keep Upgrade to more defensive siege weapons. The higher the keep levels are on wood, food and ore, the more siege weapons defenders can place.

New daily quests have been added with a new quest board. These quests will grant Cyrodiil exclusive costume pieces and other goodies.

Under-population and Underdog evaluation periods have been drastically reduced. This will result in scoring adjustments being applied more frequently depending on population and scoring within shorter time periods.

Monsters/guards in CP Enabled campaigns have learned how to deal with CP enabled characters. They will be a bit harder to kill and hit a bit harder.

Catapults now have their area damage stick around in the world for a period of time after impact resulting in better area denial. Ballista have been rebalanced to do more damage vs. Siege weapons and damage vs. players has been reduced.

There is more info for Cyrodiil and update 18 coming in the next few months, but until then we will see you in the war!
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  • Apache_Kid
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    Will the performance changes have any effect on the crashes to the Xbox Dashboard while in Cyrodiil? Yes the lag is a problem but the crashes are even worse.

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    how will the new multi-core support affect quad core pc's? A little scared this is going to make me wish i went with a 6-8 core i7 instead of the i5
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  • Marabornwingrion
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    I'd be more happy with something like "after 4 years we permanently fixed the lag"
  • Saphayla
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    Defense ticks no longer require you to sit and wait in an objective for the tick. Instead, each type of objective will track whether you’ve earned credit towards a defense or offense tick. Earning the offense or defense "tick" is pretty easy, and you earn credit for pretty much everything except standing there doing nothing. Offense ticks still have a base value that will be granted regardless of being on the credit list, but any bonus AP earned by combat around and inside an objective will only be granted to players that are on the credit lists.

    As some who doesn't play PvP, can someone explain what this means? I don't know what defense ticks are.
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    Saphayla wrote: »
    Defense ticks no longer require you to sit and wait in an objective for the tick. Instead, each type of objective will track whether you’ve earned credit towards a defense or offense tick. Earning the offense or defense "tick" is pretty easy, and you earn credit for pretty much everything except standing there doing nothing. Offense ticks still have a base value that will be granted regardless of being on the credit list, but any bonus AP earned by combat around and inside an objective will only be granted to players that are on the credit lists.

    As some who doesn't play PvP, can someone explain what this means? I don't know what defense ticks are.

    Players are awarded AP for defending and capturing keeps and resources.

    Capturing an objective is an offensive tick, awarded when the flags fully flip and the objective changes hands. You get a flat amount of AP + the amount of AP from kills divided among players present (now on the credit list).

    Defensive ticks are awarded for participating in the defense of a resource, generally accumulating from the AP credit from players killed. Previously it was divided between all players present on the grounds after combat ceased for approx. a minute, now it will be divided amongst players on the credit list.
  • Jadokis
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    Awesome sounding changes. Just make sure the archer guards don't one shot with snipe like they did when they were first put in :P
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    I'm not really a fan of op sieges but at least there's an update and the performance improvements are most needed . Hope this works this time and thank you for updating us .
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    tl;dr

    You can now farm ap faster


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  • Avran_Sylt
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    Cool changes. It's nice to hear that PvP will be getting some more updates, especially ones that diversify the roles of siege weapons.

    If I were to add my own two cents: I'd also suggest adding in a Forward Camp type mechanism to the keeps if the keep owns most/all of its own resources. Such that it incentives actually going out to cap/defend a resource after your keep has been flagged without having to plop down 20k AP for your own FC. (It would also be an incentive for the siegers to take your resources before PvDooring your keep)
  • VaranisArano
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    Defense ticks no longer require you to sit and wait in an objective for the tick. Instead, each type of objective will track whether you’ve earned credit towards a defense or offense tick. Earning the offense or defense "tick" is pretty easy, and you earn credit for pretty much everything except standing there doing nothing. Offense ticks still have a base value that will be granted regardless of being on the credit list, but any bonus AP earned by combat around and inside an objective will only be granted to players that are on the credit lists.

    You can be on several credit lists for a Keep superstructure of a Keep, Mine, Lumbermill and Farm and earn Defense ticks for each of them, however if you defend or attack a new Keep superstructure, your credit will be removed.




    Does that mean, if a player is fighting at a BRK defense and the keep is still flagged for whatever reason but the fighting is over, and that player moves down to Sejanus to assist in a defense, they will lose the Defensive credit for BRK? It says that you don't have to wait around for the tick anymore, which is nice, but how long will it take from when a keep is unflagged to when the tick is awarded? If the time for a tick is anywhere near what it is now, you could be attacking another keep before the defensive tick is awarded. And from the wording here, that means you lose the defensive tick. Or you successfully defend a keep and then port up to defend another keep, you could lose your defense bonus.

    Unless the defense tickis instant, like the capture tick, the moment the keep is unflagged.

    Yeah, if the credit is removed, that seems like its the same old, same old, "Don't move off the keep grounds til the D-tick comes strategy." Only slight better because I think the resources count as one keep superstructure?
    Edited by VaranisArano on April 3, 2018 4:55PM
  • jcasini222ub17_ESO
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    I believe the ticks change is pretty simple. I'm fighting at Aleswell, defending, we secure the keep but it's still flagged. I can now ride to the farm, defend there, and not miss out on the d-tick from the immediate keep defense.

    If I ride to Bleakers before the ticks are awarded and engage I loose out and now I'm on the Bleakers credit list not the Aleswell superstructure list.

    Also no more afk for AP... Pretty sweet.



  • technohic
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    Sounds like more reason to have catapults in stead of just ballistas yet Im thinking trebs are still not as favored as far as against the keeps. Mabye make bilistas a little less sturdy when being hit by other balistas?
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    Thanks for giving us some attention. Appreciated.
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    I hope the defense tick changes the way people play. Currently, Vivec ( on DC side ) is more less "zone PvP" and attacking empty keeps for AP. Nobody cares about defending.



    Edited by vamp_emily on April 3, 2018 5:14PM

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    So by monsters do they mean IC bosses/mobs in CP campaigns too? Not overly concerned either way, but if it now takes a raid to kill the overland bosses an increase in dropped tel var on those bosses would be nice.

    Either way though, a 'yay' in my book!
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    I would hug you guys right now if I could!
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  • Ley
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    Time to dust off my pvp characters!
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    As a bomber I will miss the "everyone stand in one place and wait for the tick moments" but I guess overall it is good.

    I thought we were waiting for transit.
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