There are shades of grey between black and white.You should go to ales bleaks and chal the next time you think dc and ep dont fight each other
DisgracefulMind wrote: »It honestly depends on the day and which guilds are on. I know my raid on Friday went back and forth between AD and DC frequently, and had fun fights all around. AD has good guilds now, actually, and fighting them is quite fun.
But AD is not outnumbered, in fact, quite the opposite. Your raids just need to spread out more. I see Omni (I think that's what they decided to finally call themselves) going around looking for fights, but Dominant Dominion, Dominion Knights, and the other group frequently flock to one single place, even if it's a resource, at a time. It would be better if they spread out to different areas of the map as well.
That being said, I deeply wish ZoS would give us some more organized PvP. Arenas would be insanely fun and draw such a huge interest into PvP. Imagine cool 8v8 arenas. Just something other than the mess that is battlegrounds.
DisgracefulMind wrote: »It honestly depends on the day and which guilds are on. I know my raid on Friday went back and forth between AD and DC frequently, and had fun fights all around. AD has good guilds now, actually, and fighting them is quite fun.
But AD is not outnumbered, in fact, quite the opposite. Your raids just need to spread out more. I see Omni (I think that's what they decided to finally call themselves) going around looking for fights, but Dominant Dominion, Dominion Knights, and the other group frequently flock to one single place, even if it's a resource, at a time. It would be better if they spread out to different areas of the map as well.
That being said, I deeply wish ZoS would give us some more organized PvP. Arenas would be insanely fun and draw such a huge interest into PvP. Imagine cool 8v8 arenas. Just something other than the mess that is battlegrounds.
Yes, to our shame, Ixtyr settled on Omni. Lemon Party was straight out
DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Well, when there's 2-3 "pug" guilds in one spot, equaling almost 60 people, it does become a little much for 12-16 to handle sometimes xD
There are shades of grey between black and white.You should go to ales bleaks and chal the next time you think dc and ep dont fight each other
I have no idea what's going on with Vivec at the moment, but it seems to me that very few campaigns across all platforms are competitive because so many players are willing and able to hope to another faction if there's a better situation for them. Players of all types do this.
The game needs team balance mechanisms to better encourage parity for better fights and more interesting campaigns.
There are shades of grey between black and white.You should go to ales bleaks and chal the next time you think dc and ep dont fight each other
I have no idea what's going on with Vivec at the moment, but it seems to me that very few campaigns across all platforms are competitive because so many players are willing and able to hope to another faction if there's a better situation for them. Players of all types do this.
The game needs team balance mechanisms to better encourage parity for better fights and more interesting campaigns.
I don’t know how faction hopping works on Vivec. All 3 factions are pop locked. If you see a side winning; might all change by the time you get through the queue.
DisgracefulMind wrote: »It honestly depends on the day and which guilds are on. I know my raid on Friday went back and forth between AD and DC frequently, and had fun fights all around. AD has good guilds now, actually, and fighting them is quite fun.
But AD is not outnumbered, in fact, quite the opposite. Your raids just need to spread out more. I see Omni (I think that's what they decided to finally call themselves) going around looking for fights, but Dominant Dominion, Dominion Knights, and the other group frequently flock to one single place, even if it's a resource, at a time. It would be better if they spread out to different areas of the map as well.
That being said, I deeply wish ZoS would give us some more organized PvP. Arenas would be insanely fun and draw such a huge interest into PvP. Imagine cool 8v8 arenas. Just something other than the mess that is battlegrounds.
Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »It honestly depends on the day and which guilds are on. I know my raid on Friday went back and forth between AD and DC frequently, and had fun fights all around. AD has good guilds now, actually, and fighting them is quite fun.
But AD is not outnumbered, in fact, quite the opposite. Your raids just need to spread out more. I see Omni (I think that's what they decided to finally call themselves) going around looking for fights, but Dominant Dominion, Dominion Knights, and the other group frequently flock to one single place, even if it's a resource, at a time. It would be better if they spread out to different areas of the map as well.
That being said, I deeply wish ZoS would give us some more organized PvP. Arenas would be insanely fun and draw such a huge interest into PvP. Imagine cool 8v8 arenas. Just something other than the mess that is battlegrounds.
i said "The poor ad rout and flee even when they have an advantage in number" never said anything about AD being outnumbered, stop tooting your own Horn. Dominion Knights needs to flock with other groups because they lack the damage of a true ball group.
Many of these Posts offer no solution, but i will try to Help, if your AD and want to L2 make a difference for the beloved queen, i will try to make PuG raids to give our organized groups like telel and taran some relief, Message me @FIREMAGZZ.
Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »It honestly depends on the day and which guilds are on. I know my raid on Friday went back and forth between AD and DC frequently, and had fun fights all around. AD has good guilds now, actually, and fighting them is quite fun.
But AD is not outnumbered, in fact, quite the opposite. Your raids just need to spread out more. I see Omni (I think that's what they decided to finally call themselves) going around looking for fights, but Dominant Dominion, Dominion Knights, and the other group frequently flock to one single place, even if it's a resource, at a time. It would be better if they spread out to different areas of the map as well.
That being said, I deeply wish ZoS would give us some more organized PvP. Arenas would be insanely fun and draw such a huge interest into PvP. Imagine cool 8v8 arenas. Just something other than the mess that is battlegrounds.
i said "The poor ad rout and flee even when they have an advantage in number" never said anything about AD being outnumbered, stop tooting your own Horn. Dominion Knights needs to flock with other groups because they lack the damage of a true ball group.
Many of these Posts offer no solution, but i will try to Help, if your AD and want to L2 make a difference for the beloved queen, i will try to make PuG raids to give our organized groups like telel and taran some relief, Message me @FIREMAGZZ.
There are shades of grey between black and white.You should go to ales bleaks and chal the next time you think dc and ep dont fight each other
I have no idea what's going on with Vivec at the moment, but it seems to me that very few campaigns across all platforms are competitive because so many players are willing and able to hope to another faction if there's a better situation for them. Players of all types do this.
The game needs team balance mechanisms to better encourage parity for better fights and more interesting campaigns.
I don’t know how faction hopping works on Vivec. All 3 factions are pop locked. If you see a side winning; might all change by the time you get through the queue.
Well if I had 8-12 tm watching my back , I wouldn’t have a problem either kart, but it’s true man the ad pugs on PC VIVEC are getting smashed. In this stage of the game that’s like 80 percent of the ad faction. This Why we aren’t winning any vivec campaigns. This is effecting our entire faction on vivec. Last time I checked you were ad so this effects you in some way. This is a faction problem , I could really use TM’s help right now. Please support me TM, as you once did, when AD was proud and strong.I think the Knights of Ni defection to AD really has turned the tides against DC recently. The regular southward pushes from Ash and Nikel after they get Chalman don’t seem to have the same oomph as they did previously. Or maybe AD has finally got it together in that regard.
I’m not sure how much OP has played on AD lately, or in Vivec specifically. I saw him in zone chat Thursday night freaking out because AD was in a bit of a lull but that’s all part of the ebb and flow. Each faction gets pushed back at times, double teamed, etc. That was just AD’s turn. We later held on to our home keeps for a good while a made it up to hold Ash and Sej before the tides turned again.
Our 8-14 run around trying to do our part, defending keeps, pushing Sej and hold would-be defenders there when AD tries to retake Alessia, and sometimes striking out on our own harassing enemy back lines at Bleakers or thereabouts.
TL;DR I don’t think it’s as dire as OP makes it out to be.
DisgracefulMind wrote: »
That being said, I deeply wish ZoS would give us some more organised PvP. Arenas would be insanely fun and draw such a huge interest into PvP. Imagine cool 8v8 arenas. Just something other than the mess that is battlegrounds.
Vilestride wrote: »How many guilds and re-rolled guilds does AD need exactly before the forums stop seeing AD needs help posts?
Just to be clear:
AD:
Dom Knights
Dom Dom
Fantasia
Venatus (sometimes running relatively large)
Omni
TKG (non prime time)
Knights of Ni (non prime time)
Ruin
Artem/panda force
Tertiary Meat (sometimes Vivec sometimes shor)
Total Dominion (granted I think these guys are only around when DD and DK aren't up)
DC:
Chuck norris
LoM (sometimes Vivec mostly shor)
Iron legion
PoD
BoD
EP:
Invictus
Pact malitia
Drac
Vae victus
Kush
You'll also note you are winning this cycle. Sorry, but if you're wondering why guilds focus AD it's because their chances of getting a good fight against AD are better given the plethora of guilds you have. Not only does DC have less guilds, they have way less top tier guilds. So AD seems like the obvious target no?
Vilestride wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »
That being said, I deeply wish ZoS would give us some more organised PvP. Arenas would be insanely fun and draw such a huge interest into PvP. Imagine cool 8v8 arenas. Just something other than the mess that is battlegrounds.
I would love this too but to be honest this game doesn't have a mature or competitive enough community to warrant it's implementation and from my experience that includes IVS.
It's incredibly easy to artificially create this scenario and in many cases this kind of thing always starts out artificial and player driven until developers see that it's where the interest lies. Then and only then would it warrant developmental resources. There have been many, many attempts to create this kind of competitive environment and the guild community has either responded with complete disinterest, or have been too thin skinned to get involved due to an array of personal reasons.
So until that changes I think me and you are just going to have to miss out on an actual competitive gaming environment. Let me know if IVS have changed their position on GVGs.
Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »i know they fight each other, especially when DC tries to make chalman there home keep. Just saying DC and EP rarely farm other on the same scale they farm AD.
Vilestride wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »
That being said, I deeply wish ZoS would give us some more organised PvP. Arenas would be insanely fun and draw such a huge interest into PvP. Imagine cool 8v8 arenas. Just something other than the mess that is battlegrounds.
I would love this too but to be honest this game doesn't have a mature or competitive enough community to warrant it's implementation and from my experience that includes IVS.
It's incredibly easy to artificially create this scenario and in many cases this kind of thing always starts out artificial and player driven until developers see that it's where the interest lies. Then and only then would it warrant developmental resources. There have been many, many attempts to create this kind of competitive environment and the guild community has either responded with complete disinterest, or have been too thin skinned to get involved due to an array of personal reasons.
So until that changes I think me and you are just going to have to miss out on an actual competitive gaming environment. Let me know if IVS have changed their position on GVGs.