(Vivec NA) This Campaign is an AD farming contest. AD has no morale.

Iskras

- I will give a small example that illustrates very well the situation of the AD. Mind you, it's just a personal opinion, nothing more.

Yesterday, a group decided - it is known why - to keep ASH at the expense of the entire AD map. One member of that group was saying that this would prevent EMP EP.

Then I disagreed, for I was aware of the queue and the movement of forces. DC soon got ASH, AD, lost all keeps returning to second place in the campaign. In 24 hours, the effort of many groups (including mine, ARS Imperatória - 'FATE') was thrown into the sewer ... out in the trash. There were 400 points that we lost literally in 24 hours of bad decisions.

I countered that decision, which caused 'indignation' of some people who were wasting time in ASH and causing the AD to return to the 2nd place of the campaign. Biggest problem of AD is called 'selfishness', it is something that is beyond game. I find it difficult to change this, I'm trying, but trying alone is frustrating many times.

Well, I do not need and do not ask 'permission' from anyone to post my ideas here or 'in game'. I know some people get 'mad' about it, they're not used to debating ideas ... but, I'll keep it that way.

WaltherCarraway

Ni and TKG from DC are helping AD this season. With Omni, DK and large amount of PUG, AD is able to maintain tactical advantage against EP and DC.

If AD can’t win this campaign then I’d say there must be some real problems with AD...

Iskras

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Ni and TKG from DC are helping AD this season. With Omni, DK and large amount of PUG, AD is able to maintain tactical advantage against EP and DC.

If AD can’t win this campaign then I’d say there must be some real problems with AD...

Agree.

Anazasi

Yes, I'm stepping out. DK is in the hands of another. I may pass through every now and then but the kids can have it. This game is full of *** and cheats and I'm too *** old to partake in childish cheat to win mechanics. Enjoy your community and may you have the best of luck in whatever you do.

Iskras

Anazasi wrote: »

Yes, I'm stepping out. DK is in the hands of another. I may pass through every now and then but the kids can have it. This game is full of *** and cheats and I'm too *** old to partake in childish cheat to win mechanics. Enjoy your community and may you have the best of luck in whatever you do.

+1

Iskras

Anazasi wrote: »

Yes, I'm stepping out. DK is in the hands of another. I may pass through every now and then but the kids can have it. This game is full of *** and cheats and I'm too *** old to partake in childish cheat to win mechanics. Enjoy your community and may you have the best of luck in whatever you do.

Stay, Taran, AD really need u. Ignore the bad players - maybe one day ZOS start care about cheat.

It's a shame and many swear not to sweat cheating, but they use and are the first to try to defend themselves in the forums stating piecemeal that 'that does not exist', etc ...

Ghostbane

Anazasi wrote: »

Yes, I'm stepping out. DK is in the hands of another. I may pass through every now and then but the kids can have it. This game is full of *** and cheats and I'm too *** old to partake in childish cheat to win mechanics. Enjoy your community and may you have the best of luck in whatever you do.

Happy April Fools Egg day to you too old bean.

Iskras

Ghostbane wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

Yes, I'm stepping out. DK is in the hands of another. I may pass through every now and then but the kids can have it. This game is full of *** and cheats and I'm too *** old to partake in childish cheat to win mechanics. Enjoy your community and may you have the best of luck in whatever you do.

Happy April Fools Egg day to you too old bean.

Unlike some, I'm like wine, 'the older, the better'

Prince_of_all_Pugs

Iskras I think it’s time you started leading pub groups man , your on pretty much all day and if your noticing all these “tactics” I think it’s time iskras. We’ve all seen you talk the talk but now it’s time to walk the walk. Ps I have yet to encounter so cheaters

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patents

Anazasi wrote: »

Yes, I'm stepping out. DK is in the hands of another. I may pass through every now and then but the kids can have it. This game is full of *** and cheats and I'm too *** old to partake in childish cheat to win mechanics. Enjoy your community and may you have the best of luck in whatever you do.

Please dont go

it's fine, we can be underdog and still have fun

for the dominion

we still have our tri-keeps

Iskras

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

Iskras I think it’s time you started leading pub groups man , your on pretty much all day and if your noticing all these “tactics” I think it’s time iskras. We’ve all seen you talk the talk but now it’s time to walk the walk. Ps I have yet to encounter so cheaters

If u pay more atention in game, u ll descovery one thing: Iskras lead - LEAD - the FATE group some times. We run with new players, near 15, 18 ppls. We are from ARS Imperatoria guild.

Edited - majority of the time, who lead FATE is Night Mother Listner - or, NML.

merevie

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

Another thing we have to consider is that Fire and cold fire siege is completely ineffective against ball groups (even when massed). i dont know if they removed the AOE cap on Purge but it feels like it. fire siege is the only way PuGs can counter organized ball groups.

Tried wearing VD? VD + fire or VD + oil = ball group gone.

There is one reason DC is whaling on AD right now -a large DC guild decided to switch to AD and take our home keeps. This has upset people for some reason. Normally DC mostly ignores AD provided they stay below Ash (guild leaders constantly say "don't annoy AD - EP is the threat"). The threat until recently has been red.

Now the threat is yellow, so yellow gets attacked. The points are almost dead even. AD are not suffering if nearly even in score.

Telel

merevie wrote: »

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

Another thing we have to consider is that Fire and cold fire siege is completely ineffective against ball groups (even when massed). i dont know if they removed the AOE cap on Purge but it feels like it. fire siege is the only way PuGs can counter organized ball groups.

Tried wearing VD? VD + fire or VD + oil = ball group gone.

There is one reason DC is whaling on AD right now -a large DC guild decided to switch to AD and take our home keeps. This has upset people for some reason. Normally DC mostly ignores AD provided they stay below Ash (guild leaders constantly say "don't annoy AD - EP is the threat"). The threat until recently has been red.

Now the threat is yellow, so yellow gets attacked. The points are almost dead even. AD are not suffering if nearly even in score.

Yeah.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbT1D-kPmn4&t=509s https://youtu.be/ss6bcw0VguMhttps://youtu.be/I7suOkTM0Oo

No.

That's what's been standard for what the dumbminion has faced day in day out for over a year. 1 bar of pop, 2000 points behind from 2nd place, EP taking DC scrolls.... It does not matter to those groups of Bloops that khajiit runs into every single day.

And then you get the 'not purples' griffs who are just 'looking to duel' near those blue groups. Oddly enough they only ever want to seem to 'duel' with Dumbminion players, and their forward camps.

Also AD is once more in third place, and still has a consistently lower population compared to their opponents. Would you like to see the 'small' DC group that failed to take Roe today?

Prince_of_all_Pugs

Iskras wrote: »

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

yesterday a ball grp of about 13-16 ep killed around 94 ad in alessia, and took the keep. at that point morale for ad tanked and no attempts were made to take a single keep. To make matters worse Zone chat was a complete zoo. my goodness what a disaster!

First of all, 'zone chat' is 'common place'. Do not take everything seriously. Are there disagreements? Yes, of course there is, as in any collective place. Are there debates? Yes, but you're most welcome to turn off your chat or, just ignore. Making this a false polemic, well, absolutely nothing helps!

Secondly, there are guilds that run in an organized way, but I do not know any guild EP that takes a keep with 60 AD inside. I've faced Dracaris, Invictus, the old Haxus among others, and I've never seen a phenomenon like this since 2014. I think you should pay attention to numbers and not overdo it so much to paint a picture as you wish and that is far from the facts, far far away at last!

END CHAT!

Iskras

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

yesterday a ball grp of about 13-16 ep killed around 94 ad in alessia, and took the keep. at that point morale for ad tanked and no attempts were made to take a single keep. To make matters worse Zone chat was a complete zoo. my goodness what a disaster!

First of all, 'zone chat' is 'common place'. Do not take everything seriously. Are there disagreements? Yes, of course there is, as in any collective place. Are there debates? Yes, but you're most welcome to turn off your chat or, just ignore. Making this a false polemic, well, absolutely nothing helps!

Secondly, there are guilds that run in an organized way, but I do not know any guild EP that takes a keep with 60 AD inside. I've faced Dracaris, Invictus, the old Haxus among others, and I've never seen a phenomenon like this since 2014. I think you should pay attention to numbers and not overdo it so much to paint a picture as you wish and that is far from the facts, far far away at last!

END CHAT!

Exacly!

Minalan

Telel wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

banana are winning a campaign... #FACT! And against facts, there are no arguments.


(start crying)

I have to say, last night I would have paid money to hear AD zone chat.

DC and EP stole every AD keep on the map, their Scrolls, and then gate camped yellow for about two hours.

So basically the scrubbiest of scrubs did scrub stuff to the guys who've been suffering against scrubby scrubs for a year. The scrubs even resorted to using two factions of opponents to gate camp (the ultimate act of a true scrub) the guys who dared remind them of their scrubbiness.

This one thinks they've accurately described the incident.

You had a really BIG lead going into the weekend, mostly due to your faction’s strength during the oceanic time zone. That upsets *some* US-prime time zone players, so they did something about it.

EP and DC decided to stop playing for second place, because it’s NOT fun playing hard just trying to determine who the first faction to LOSE is going to be.

So both factions ate your lead. And then fought one another over first place. DC hit first place and got focused too. You should. It’s how you win.

@Telel I’m sorry your eggshell princess players can’t take a little focus and have fun with it. I promise you most of DC aren’t weeping every time Ni ninjas most of our home keeps and a scroll or two. (They are ninjas BTW, I can prove it! )

Lastly, I never joined in the double teaming in the south. I actually got in some small scale with EP in the north, it was actually fun. Fighting EP felt less like kicking a stray puppy dog.

I’m leveling an AD, if I see it get that bad again, I’ll be able to switch and help out at least. I actually like playing when the home keeps get raided, and everything goes to pot.

Again, thanks to Ni for keeping the campaign fun.

Minalan

Iskras wrote: »

- I will give a small example that illustrates very well the situation of the AD. Mind you, it's just a personal opinion, nothing more.

Yesterday, a group decided - it is known why - to keep ASH at the expense of the entire AD map. One member of that group was saying that this would prevent EMP EP.

Then I disagreed, for I was aware of the queue and the movement of forces. DC soon got ASH, AD, lost all keeps returning to second place in the campaign. In 24 hours, the effort of many groups (including mine, ARS Imperatória - 'FATE') was thrown into the sewer ... out in the trash. There were 400 points that we lost literally in 24 hours of bad decisions.

I countered that decision, which caused 'indignation' of some people who were wasting time in ASH and causing the AD to return to the 2nd place of the campaign. Biggest problem of AD is called 'selfishness', it is something that is beyond game. I find it difficult to change this, I'm trying, but trying alone is frustrating many times.

Well, I do not need and do not ask 'permission' from anyone to post my ideas here or 'in game'. I know some people get 'mad' about it, they're not used to debating ideas ... but, I'll keep it that way.

It’s not a well known secret, but Ash is where DC keeps all of our tequila.

You can’t blame them entirely for holding it seriously, it’s a bottleneck that completely gates off DC from the south. If DC fails to take it a few times, they’ll just potato over to Chal instead, pressuring EP in the north.

Telel

Minalan wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

banana are winning a campaign... #FACT! And against facts, there are no arguments.


(start crying)

I have to say, last night I would have paid money to hear AD zone chat.

DC and EP stole every AD keep on the map, their Scrolls, and then gate camped yellow for about two hours.

So basically the scrubbiest of scrubs did scrub stuff to the guys who've been suffering against scrubby scrubs for a year. The scrubs even resorted to using two factions of opponents to gate camp (the ultimate act of a true scrub) the guys who dared remind them of their scrubbiness.

This one thinks they've accurately described the incident.

You had a really BIG lead going into the weekend, mostly due to your faction’s strength during the oceanic time zone. That upsets *some* US-prime time zone players, so they did something about it.

EP and DC decided to stop playing for second place, because it’s NOT fun playing hard just trying to determine who the first faction to LOSE is going to be.

So both factions ate your lead. And then fought one another over first place. DC hit first place and got focused too. You should. It’s how you win.

@Telel I’m sorry your eggshell princess players can’t take a little focus and have fun with it. I promise you most of DC aren’t weeping every time Ni ninjas most of our home keeps and a scroll or two. (They are ninjas BTW, I can prove it! )

Lastly, I never joined in the double teaming in the south. I actually got in some small scale with EP in the north, it was actually fun. Fighting EP felt less like kicking a stray puppy dog.

I’m leveling an AD, if I see it get that bad again, I’ll be able to switch and help out at least. I actually like playing when the home keeps get raided, and everything goes to pot.

Again, thanks to Ni for keeping the campaign fun.

If by fighting over first place you mean sent queue cloggers to spam zone chat while using cooperative raid sized groups from both other factions to push empty keeps...

All because the guys with the smallest consistent population dared to get 130 points ahead of the silly zerglings in second place....

Then yes Telel will admit that AD simply could not stand up to that. And hasn't been able to for the last year.

Afterwards khajiit will perhaps suggest that if one disagrees with that being a thing then maybe, just maybe, they can come over and enjoy the same level of 'fun' Guilds like TD & COH have been enduring for the last year.

Hopefully you won't run back behind the 'good' factions after seeing how hard it is to accomplish anything in those conditions.

As for eggshell princesses...This one doesn't run off to huddle behind whomever has the biggest zerg at the time. Unlike certain snowmer who can be found making zone chat a less than useful source of information.

Which is again a thing that's been going on for a very, very, very long time.

Or maybe you can show us some clips of you fighting yet another PVdoor zerg while you're faction is at 2 bars, 1500 points behind, and the guys in first have emperor. You know, just like 'bad' players do whenever certain silly elves bring up how skillfully they take first place.

Telel

So, people keep telling khajiit that AD needs to 'git gud' and use the same super good tactics adored by the guys who keep taking first place. Oh, and that the dumbminion should stop zerging so hard...

Oh, and some stuff about how certain players are all bad because they don't play as skillfully as certain other factions...





Can someone show khajiit where a certain set of someone's have begun to show skill instead of just zerging down the map like they always do?

Elong

Telel wrote: »

So, people keep telling khajiit that AD needs to 'git gud' and use the same super good tactics adored by the guys who keep taking first place. Oh, and that the dumbminion should stop zerging so hard...

Oh, and some stuff about how certain players are all bad because they don't play as skillfully as certain other factions...





Can someone show khajiit where a certain set of someone's have begun to show skill instead of just zerging down the map like they always do?

And yesterday and the day before that, EP's map looked the same as yours does now.

I wish everyone would stop grabbing screenshots of moments that suit their agenda. Then again the corn is good and ripe.

Goshua

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

So, people keep telling khajiit that AD needs to 'git gud' and use the same super good tactics adored by the guys who keep taking first place. Oh, and that the dumbminion should stop zerging so hard...

Oh, and some stuff about how certain players are all bad because they don't play as skillfully as certain other factions...





Can someone show khajiit where a certain set of someone's have begun to show skill instead of just zerging down the map like they always do?

And yesterday and the day before that, EP's map looked the same as yours does now.

I wish everyone would stop grabbing screenshots of moments that suit their agenda. Then again the corn is good and ripe.

nvm you got brk and sej shortly after those sshots, and will probably wait until AD are hassling Alessia to go there.

actually, more likely help DC defend fare come to think of it

Elong

Goshua wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

So, people keep telling khajiit that AD needs to 'git gud' and use the same super good tactics adored by the guys who keep taking first place. Oh, and that the dumbminion should stop zerging so hard...

Oh, and some stuff about how certain players are all bad because they don't play as skillfully as certain other factions...





Can someone show khajiit where a certain set of someone's have begun to show skill instead of just zerging down the map like they always do?

And yesterday and the day before that, EP's map looked the same as yours does now.

I wish everyone would stop grabbing screenshots of moments that suit their agenda. Then again the corn is good and ripe.

nvm you got brk and sej shortly after those sshots, and will probably wait until AD are hassling Alessia to go there.

As I logged I had just taken Drake and others took Alessia.

In another hour's time we might be back to our gates. 4 hours after that we might be at your gates. There really isn't a continuous theme this campaign, as the tight score shows.

Goshua

Elong wrote: »

Goshua wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

So, people keep telling khajiit that AD needs to 'git gud' and use the same super good tactics adored by the guys who keep taking first place. Oh, and that the dumbminion should stop zerging so hard...

Oh, and some stuff about how certain players are all bad because they don't play as skillfully as certain other factions...





Can someone show khajiit where a certain set of someone's have begun to show skill instead of just zerging down the map like they always do?

And yesterday and the day before that, EP's map looked the same as yours does now.

I wish everyone would stop grabbing screenshots of moments that suit their agenda. Then again the corn is good and ripe.

nvm you got brk and sej shortly after those sshots, and will probably wait until AD are hassling Alessia to go there.

As I logged I had just taken Drake and others took Alessia.

In another hour's time we might be back to our gates. 4 hours after that we might be at your gates. There really isn't a continuous theme this campaign, as the tight score shows.

For sure. Was an odd last hr or so I was playing, all locked then suddenly no one, relatively, except for dc. The que problems have been fixed no? at any rate, strange and sudden shift in the salty wind blowing in from the northlands.

Telel

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

So, people keep telling khajiit that AD needs to 'git gud' and use the same super good tactics adored by the guys who keep taking first place. Oh, and that the dumbminion should stop zerging so hard...

Oh, and some stuff about how certain players are all bad because they don't play as skillfully as certain other factions...





Can someone show khajiit where a certain set of someone's have begun to show skill instead of just zerging down the map like they always do?

And yesterday and the day before that, EP's map looked the same as yours does now.

I wish everyone would stop grabbing screenshots of moments that suit their agenda. Then again the corn is good and ripe.

This one wishes elves playing on factions that have guilds notorious for doing unsavory things would stop making these threads in the first place. Seriously, this is like the blurteemleenth one Telel has seen.

Until then khajiit will most politely point out they could be mocking people for being words involving hippos. Words which would have certain things critical to a matter. But khajiit is not doing that as it would be rude.

Plus this one has already made some sad sad griffs cry, and wail, and try to make naughty videos involving Telel's much beloved voice.

WaltherCarraway

During last 15 days it was always EP with one or two coordinated group plus PUG fighting 2 other poplocked factions with at least 4 coordinated groups and PUG combined on both north and south during US (West) primetime.

Iskras

Minalan wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

- I will give a small example that illustrates very well the situation of the AD. Mind you, it's just a personal opinion, nothing more.

Yesterday, a group decided - it is known why - to keep ASH at the expense of the entire AD map. One member of that group was saying that this would prevent EMP EP.

Then I disagreed, for I was aware of the queue and the movement of forces. DC soon got ASH, AD, lost all keeps returning to second place in the campaign. In 24 hours, the effort of many groups (including mine, ARS Imperatória - 'FATE') was thrown into the sewer ... out in the trash. There were 400 points that we lost literally in 24 hours of bad decisions.

I countered that decision, which caused 'indignation' of some people who were wasting time in ASH and causing the AD to return to the 2nd place of the campaign. Biggest problem of AD is called 'selfishness', it is something that is beyond game. I find it difficult to change this, I'm trying, but trying alone is frustrating many times.

Well, I do not need and do not ask 'permission' from anyone to post my ideas here or 'in game'. I know some people get 'mad' about it, they're not used to debating ideas ... but, I'll keep it that way.

It’s not a well known secret, but Ash is where DC keeps all of our tequila.

You can’t blame them entirely for holding it seriously, it’s a bottleneck that completely gates off DC from the south. If DC fails to take it a few times, they’ll just potato over to Chal instead, pressuring EP in the north.

wow, Tequila! Im in!

Elong

Telel wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

So, people keep telling khajiit that AD needs to 'git gud' and use the same super good tactics adored by the guys who keep taking first place. Oh, and that the dumbminion should stop zerging so hard...

Oh, and some stuff about how certain players are all bad because they don't play as skillfully as certain other factions...





Can someone show khajiit where a certain set of someone's have begun to show skill instead of just zerging down the map like they always do?

And yesterday and the day before that, EP's map looked the same as yours does now.

I wish everyone would stop grabbing screenshots of moments that suit their agenda. Then again the corn is good and ripe.

This one wishes elves playing on factions that have guilds notorious for doing unsavory things would stop making these threads in the first place. Seriously, this is like the blurteemleenth one Telel has seen.

Until then khajiit will most politely point out they could be mocking people for being words involving hippos. Words which would have certain things critical to a matter. But khajiit is not doing that as it would be rude.

Plus this one has already made some sad sad griffs cry, and wail, and try to make naughty videos involving Telel's much beloved voice.

Translation anyone?

VaranisArano

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

So, people keep telling khajiit that AD needs to 'git gud' and use the same super good tactics adored by the guys who keep taking first place. Oh, and that the dumbminion should stop zerging so hard...

Oh, and some stuff about how certain players are all bad because they don't play as skillfully as certain other factions...





Can someone show khajiit where a certain set of someone's have begun to show skill instead of just zerging down the map like they always do?

And yesterday and the day before that, EP's map looked the same as yours does now.

I wish everyone would stop grabbing screenshots of moments that suit their agenda. Then again the corn is good and ripe.

This one wishes elves playing on factions that have guilds notorious for doing unsavory things would stop making these threads in the first place. Seriously, this is like the blurteemleenth one Telel has seen.

Until then khajiit will most politely point out they could be mocking people for being words involving hippos. Words which would have certain things critical to a matter. But khajiit is not doing that as it would be rude.

Plus this one has already made some sad sad griffs cry, and wail, and try to make naughty videos involving Telel's much beloved voice.

Translation anyone?

Less QQ, more pew-pew.

Telel

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

So, people keep telling khajiit that AD needs to 'git gud' and use the same super good tactics adored by the guys who keep taking first place. Oh, and that the dumbminion should stop zerging so hard...

Oh, and some stuff about how certain players are all bad because they don't play as skillfully as certain other factions...





Can someone show khajiit where a certain set of someone's have begun to show skill instead of just zerging down the map like they always do?

And yesterday and the day before that, EP's map looked the same as yours does now.

I wish everyone would stop grabbing screenshots of moments that suit their agenda. Then again the corn is good and ripe.

This one wishes elves playing on factions that have guilds notorious for doing unsavory things would stop making these threads in the first place. Seriously, this is like the blurteemleenth one Telel has seen.

Until then khajiit will most politely point out they could be mocking people for being words involving hippos. Words which would have certain things critical to a matter. But khajiit is not doing that as it would be rude.

Plus this one has already made some sad sad griffs cry, and wail, and try to make naughty videos involving Telel's much beloved voice.

Translation anyone?

Some people are silly , and should not light torches when covered in baby oil.

Fortunately Telel is to polite to say that with great seriousness.

Also, certain EP scrubs who like to troll AD zone chat are thin skinned crybabies.