Account wide achievements seriously....
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✭For me, having an alt that needs an achievement that my main already has encourages me to play that alt when my guild is doing something related to those achievements.
exactly! i feel the same.
but i can't even understand why would anyone need the achievements copied in all characters.
what would be the point? the achievements in this game are more like a guide.
i want to use it, not to waste them.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
Those MANY of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
Is that better? I would never presume to speak for anyone, but as these threads keep popping up, I am fairly confident that there are MANY people that have a problem with the current system. I am trying to explain why, not to act as if my speech is gospel. I am willing to bet that MANY of the people that are complaining about the current system do in fact play a lot of alts, otherwise, why would they care?
If you only play one toon, this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons and dont care about achievment points, again this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons AND care about achievement point totals, there is a reasonable chance you support some means of measuring account-wide achievements.
as far as i can tell around 8.5 million copies of eso have been bought. and you call a few people raising an issue here 'many'?
and again i play many toons and care about achievements but am fine with the current situation.
We both know that this is an absurd standard. There certainly arent 8.5 million active players, and the forums are only a tiny fraction of the player base. This is a topic that pops up on the forums with some frequency, and it is therefore a reasonable assumption that there are a fair amount of players that would like some changes made with regards to achievements. I am one of them. You clearly are not.
'a fair amount' ... how many is that?
Are you arguing just to argue? Enough that we are in the forth page of this thread which is the most recent in a long line of many.For me, having an alt that needs an achievement that my main already has encourages me to play that alt when my guild is doing something related to those achievements.
exactly! i feel the same.
but i can't even understand why would anyone need the achievements copied in all characters.
what would be the point? the achievements in this game are more like a guide.
i want to use it, not to waste them.
That is NOT what is being suggested by most of us. We WANT (need is a really strong word in a video game) a separate tab that shows total account wide progress. That way if you want to use them as a guide for a new character, you can still do so. But at the same time, if you want to see what you as a player still have left to accomplish in this game, you can do that too. It is rare that is such a simple middle ground solution exists to opposing view points. If I could see a downside to those in the camp against it, I would certainly reconsider my position. I am just not seeing it.2 -
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That's not what people asking for account-wide achievements or account-wide summary of achievements are asking for. The addon provides information about achievements on any alt. People want an officiel, build-in system for merging achievements across all alts on the account.2 -
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✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
Those MANY of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
Is that better? I would never presume to speak for anyone, but as these threads keep popping up, I am fairly confident that there are MANY people that have a problem with the current system. I am trying to explain why, not to act as if my speech is gospel. I am willing to bet that MANY of the people that are complaining about the current system do in fact play a lot of alts, otherwise, why would they care?
If you only play one toon, this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons and dont care about achievment points, again this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons AND care about achievement point totals, there is a reasonable chance you support some means of measuring account-wide achievements.
as far as i can tell around 8.5 million copies of eso have been bought. and you call a few people raising an issue here 'many'?
and again i play many toons and care about achievements but am fine with the current situation.
We both know that this is an absurd standard. There certainly arent 8.5 million active players, and the forums are only a tiny fraction of the player base. This is a topic that pops up on the forums with some frequency, and it is therefore a reasonable assumption that there are a fair amount of players that would like some changes made with regards to achievements. I am one of them. You clearly are not.
'a fair amount' ... how many is that?
Are you arguing just to argue? Enough that we are in the forth page of this thread which is the most recent in a long line of many.For me, having an alt that needs an achievement that my main already has encourages me to play that alt when my guild is doing something related to those achievements.
exactly! i feel the same.
but i can't even understand why would anyone need the achievements copied in all characters.
what would be the point? the achievements in this game are more like a guide.
i want to use it, not to waste them.
That is NOT what is being suggested by most of us. We WANT (need is a really strong word in a video game) a separate tab that shows total account wide progress. That way if you want to use them as a guide for a new character, you can still do so. But at the same time, if you want to see what you as a player still have left to accomplish in this game, you can do that too. It is rare that is such a simple middle ground solution exists to opposing view points. If I could see a downside to those in the camp against it, I would certainly reconsider my position. I am just not seeing it.
i am arguing against the idea of account wide achievements.... i thought that was obvious.1 -
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✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
Those MANY of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
Is that better? I would never presume to speak for anyone, but as these threads keep popping up, I am fairly confident that there are MANY people that have a problem with the current system. I am trying to explain why, not to act as if my speech is gospel. I am willing to bet that MANY of the people that are complaining about the current system do in fact play a lot of alts, otherwise, why would they care?
If you only play one toon, this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons and dont care about achievment points, again this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons AND care about achievement point totals, there is a reasonable chance you support some means of measuring account-wide achievements.
as far as i can tell around 8.5 million copies of eso have been bought. and you call a few people raising an issue here 'many'?
and again i play many toons and care about achievements but am fine with the current situation.
We both know that this is an absurd standard. There certainly arent 8.5 million active players, and the forums are only a tiny fraction of the player base. This is a topic that pops up on the forums with some frequency, and it is therefore a reasonable assumption that there are a fair amount of players that would like some changes made with regards to achievements. I am one of them. You clearly are not.
'a fair amount' ... how many is that?
Are you arguing just to argue? Enough that we are in the forth page of this thread which is the most recent in a long line of many.For me, having an alt that needs an achievement that my main already has encourages me to play that alt when my guild is doing something related to those achievements.
exactly! i feel the same.
but i can't even understand why would anyone need the achievements copied in all characters.
what would be the point? the achievements in this game are more like a guide.
i want to use it, not to waste them.
That is NOT what is being suggested by most of us. We WANT (need is a really strong word in a video game) a separate tab that shows total account wide progress. That way if you want to use them as a guide for a new character, you can still do so. But at the same time, if you want to see what you as a player still have left to accomplish in this game, you can do that too. It is rare that is such a simple middle ground solution exists to opposing view points. If I could see a downside to those in the camp against it, I would certainly reconsider my position. I am just not seeing it.
but if all you need is "a separate tab that shows total account wide progress" doesn't the suggested addon by @Nestor solve it? i'm just wondering, i never tested it because i don't need it
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✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
Those MANY of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
Is that better? I would never presume to speak for anyone, but as these threads keep popping up, I am fairly confident that there are MANY people that have a problem with the current system. I am trying to explain why, not to act as if my speech is gospel. I am willing to bet that MANY of the people that are complaining about the current system do in fact play a lot of alts, otherwise, why would they care?
If you only play one toon, this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons and dont care about achievment points, again this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons AND care about achievement point totals, there is a reasonable chance you support some means of measuring account-wide achievements.
as far as i can tell around 8.5 million copies of eso have been bought. and you call a few people raising an issue here 'many'?
and again i play many toons and care about achievements but am fine with the current situation.
We both know that this is an absurd standard. There certainly arent 8.5 million active players, and the forums are only a tiny fraction of the player base. This is a topic that pops up on the forums with some frequency, and it is therefore a reasonable assumption that there are a fair amount of players that would like some changes made with regards to achievements. I am one of them. You clearly are not.
'a fair amount' ... how many is that?
Are you arguing just to argue? Enough that we are in the forth page of this thread which is the most recent in a long line of many.For me, having an alt that needs an achievement that my main already has encourages me to play that alt when my guild is doing something related to those achievements.
exactly! i feel the same.
but i can't even understand why would anyone need the achievements copied in all characters.
what would be the point? the achievements in this game are more like a guide.
i want to use it, not to waste them.
That is NOT what is being suggested by most of us. We WANT (need is a really strong word in a video game) a separate tab that shows total account wide progress. That way if you want to use them as a guide for a new character, you can still do so. But at the same time, if you want to see what you as a player still have left to accomplish in this game, you can do that too. It is rare that is such a simple middle ground solution exists to opposing view points. If I could see a downside to those in the camp against it, I would certainly reconsider my position. I am just not seeing it.
but if all you need is "a separate tab that shows total account wide progress" doesn't the suggested addon by @Nestor solve it? i'm just wondering, i never tested it because i don't need it
I messed with that addon briefly, and It's actually not bad, but like any addon, it is not perfect. That said, the fact that the addon exists shows that a potential issue exists. I also would prefer to not run one more addon than is necessary, and frankly think that a lot of the things I run addons for should be in the base game as well.
I run an addon called inventory insight for looking at inventory on other characters. It's buggy, but it works for the most part. That said, this should exist in game, and it's simply lazy on the part of the devs that it doesnt.
I run an addon called awesome guild store to better search traders, and frankly, anyone that says the default search function is fine should have their head examined. Just because there is a passable addon, doesnt meant they shouldnt change the underlying issue.
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
That's not what people asking for account-wide achievements or account-wide summary of achievements are asking for. The addon provides information about achievements on any alt. People want an officiel, build-in system for merging achievements across all alts on the account.
I know what people are asking for.
Its as close as you are going to get unless ZOS totally revamps the character save system. Anything ZOS puts into the client, and that is where this would have to work, is subject to exploits and hacking. So, all you are left with is an addon that works with the API Hooks and reads the information from each save file and compiles it locally in a data file. All ZOS could add at this time is something similar.
Here is the thing. Some people have been asking for this since Beta. ZOS has never said, at any point in time, this is something we are looking into. Which tells me it's technically impossible to make happen. Unless the game engine is re-coded.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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✭✭✭✭✭I dont know why people still argue about this. Honestly, it looks like arguing for the sake of arguing. Its not like achievement overview would prevent them from grinding monster trophies on 15 chars. ZOS would still have to keep character-specific info so people can keep track of quests and skyshards.
Thing is, its nice to keep track of things you've done in the game. Theres a ton of optional things, such as those small dlc dungeon achievements and stuff. Also, it would be very convenient to check which parts of rare motifs I already learned on my crafter. There's many motif chapters I need to collect and I have to relog to crafter every time I loot a random page of one of those motifs, which is annoying. Yes, there are addons, but I dont like having a ton of them on every char due to trial lags, and I'm sure that it would help console players.
Sometimes I just want to check when I did my first flawless conqueror (for example). Or how much gold do I need to get "black market mogul" on my another char. Whatever.
Its just convenient to keep all information in one place.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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navystylz_ESO✭✭✭✭My templar is my crafter. He gets all my motifs. Why on earth should I get all the motifs again on a character that doesn't even craft to complete the achievements on my main? It's stupid ones like this people want to have account-wide.1
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✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »I dont know why people still argue about this. Honestly, it looks like arguing for the sake of arguing. Its not like achievement overview would prevent them from grinding monster trophies on 15 chars. ZOS would still have to keep character-specific info so people can keep track of quests and skyshards.
Thing is, its nice to keep track of things you've done in the game. Theres a ton of optional things, such as those small dlc dungeon achievements and stuff. Also, it would be very convenient to check which parts of rare motifs I already learned on my crafter. There's many motif chapters I need to collect and I have to relog to crafter every time I loot a random page of one of those motifs, which is annoying. Yes, there are addons, but I dont like having a ton of them on every char due to trial lags, and I'm sure that it would help console players.
Sometimes I just want to check when I did my first flawless conqueror (for example). Or how much gold do I need to get "black market mogul" on my another char. Whatever.
Its just convenient to keep all information in one place.
Achievement overview, I don't have an issue but there are folk who are wanting the achievements from one character to apply to all characters.
The former is fine with me. The latter, not my preference.
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✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »I dont know why people still argue about this. Honestly, it looks like arguing for the sake of arguing. Its not like achievement overview would prevent them from grinding monster trophies on 15 chars. ZOS would still have to keep character-specific info so people can keep track of quests and skyshards.
Thing is, its nice to keep track of things you've done in the game. Theres a ton of optional things, such as those small dlc dungeon achievements and stuff. Also, it would be very convenient to check which parts of rare motifs I already learned on my crafter. There's many motif chapters I need to collect and I have to relog to crafter every time I loot a random page of one of those motifs, which is annoying. Yes, there are addons, but I dont like having a ton of them on every char due to trial lags, and I'm sure that it would help console players.
Sometimes I just want to check when I did my first flawless conqueror (for example). Or how much gold do I need to get "black market mogul" on my another char. Whatever.
Its just convenient to keep all information in one place.
But OP is not asking for that. OP just wants one set of achievements that are account wide and apply to all characters.
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✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
Those MANY of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
Is that better? I would never presume to speak for anyone, but as these threads keep popping up, I am fairly confident that there are MANY people that have a problem with the current system. I am trying to explain why, not to act as if my speech is gospel. I am willing to bet that MANY of the people that are complaining about the current system do in fact play a lot of alts, otherwise, why would they care?
If you only play one toon, this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons and dont care about achievment points, again this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons AND care about achievement point totals, there is a reasonable chance you support some means of measuring account-wide achievements.
as far as i can tell around 8.5 million copies of eso have been bought. and you call a few people raising an issue here 'many'?
and again i play many toons and care about achievements but am fine with the current situation.
We both know that this is an absurd standard. There certainly arent 8.5 million active players, and the forums are only a tiny fraction of the player base. This is a topic that pops up on the forums with some frequency, and it is therefore a reasonable assumption that there are a fair amount of players that would like some changes made with regards to achievements. I am one of them. You clearly are not.
'a fair amount' ... how many is that?
Are you arguing just to argue? Enough that we are in the forth page of this thread which is the most recent in a long line of many.For me, having an alt that needs an achievement that my main already has encourages me to play that alt when my guild is doing something related to those achievements.
exactly! i feel the same.
but i can't even understand why would anyone need the achievements copied in all characters.
what would be the point? the achievements in this game are more like a guide.
i want to use it, not to waste them.
That is NOT what is being suggested by most of us. We WANT (need is a really strong word in a video game) a separate tab that shows total account wide progress. That way if you want to use them as a guide for a new character, you can still do so. But at the same time, if you want to see what you as a player still have left to accomplish in this game, you can do that too. It is rare that is such a simple middle ground solution exists to opposing view points. If I could see a downside to those in the camp against it, I would certainly reconsider my position. I am just not seeing it.
Most people who argue for account wide achievements want skyshards, skills and many other things available to all characters if one character does it. It isn't about seeing what achievements they have it is about not having to do anything to get skills on a new character. It isn't about a tab (for most) but about not having to put in the time playing a character to have everything on that character.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
navystylz_ESO✭✭✭✭Of course it is optional. Playing ESO is optional.
This is merely a request to make end game players that collect achievements have more room to play their alt and try different play style.
It encourage people to play different class and different role.
Its a good thing.
It devalues some achievements. You could run flawless vMA once on a Mag sorc and wear it on your magplar or stamblade. Also, achievements like Perfect Purification are much harder on meele chars compared to Magblades etc.
It's not a good thing. You just get bored earlier and quit the game, because "you've done it all".
No, thank you.
Edit: It's the player and not the character, you say. However, if the player always chooses the easy mode, your suggestion would put him in the same boat like someone who buys skin runs. Sometimes the class does matter.
World of Warcraft tags the character name to the achievement when earned. Take this a step further and tag each subsequent character name to achievement and you handle the only argument against. You know have an account-wide achievement (especially in cases like needing motifs to finish DLC achievement lines on non-crafters) and then you handle the case of wanting to earn the achievement on all your characters, as each character name would be tagged to the achievement.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭There's never any argument when people are asking for a single account-wide listing e.g. on the character selection screen of all the achievements held by the different characters variously across the account. There are no real reasons to oppose that. The argument starts when people ask for all those achievements to be shared by all their characters so they only have to earn them once. There are very good reasons to oppose that.5 -
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✭✭There's never any argument when people are asking for a single account-wide listing e.g. on the character selection screen of all the achievements held by the different characters variously across the account. There are no real reasons to oppose that. The argument starts when people ask for all those achievements to be shared by all their characters so they only have to earn them once. There are very good reasons to oppose that.
^^this. not often i agree with tandor but on this he has it spot on.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭As a completionist i would welcome account wide achievements.
There is simply no way i'm going to get something like Master Angler or Grand Overlord or crafting research maxed on all of my 8 characters.
The amount of character based achievements is overwhelming for anyone that actively plays more than one character ...
Edited by SirAndy on February 26, 2018 10:42PM2 -
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✭✭As a completionist i would welcome account wide achievements.
There is simply no way i'm going to get something like Master Angler or Grand Overlord or crafting research maxed on all of my 8 characters.
The amount of character based achievements is overwhelming for anyone that actively plays more than one character ...
um.... no, there is plenty of time. decide what you want to achieve.... plan how to do it and take it one step at a time....
iterative process.... gotta love it.1 -
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✭Crazy thought, but do we really want our first skill point to go to meteor? Even if the skills are not part of the system, having all the mages guild lore books would put you at mages 10, in the tutorial.2 -
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✭EvilAutoTech wrote: »Crazy thought, but do we really want our first skill point to go to meteor? Even if the skills are not part of the system, having all the mages guild lore books would put you at mages 10, in the tutorial.
And having all the skyshards opens up all your skills.
And having DB maxed out gets you a shadowy supplier at level 1.
Etc. etc. with the other dlc guilds.
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✭The only I think that it should be account wide is Alliance Rank. It should reflect all those hours dedicated on PvP, because its all about knowing how is group play, field knowledge and mechanics, not only your skill on 1 class.Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
If you see edits on my replies: typos. English isn't my main language0 -
SquareSausage✭✭✭✭✭Always take a mega lol at the people who envision their charcaters as 'real people' and strive for them to be 'indivisuals'.
Abut yes achievements should be account wide, for those screaming of titles and character individuality well heck go and lock the title to the character who completes the specific achievemnt only but give the achievement pooints to the whole account.Breakfast KingPS4 EU1 -
pizzaow✭✭✭Separate titles and achievements.
Character based titles
Account based achievements
(you don't unlock the title for that character until you complete the achievement with that character)XBox/NA GT: Pizzaow1 -
SugaComa✭✭✭✭✭TheShadowScout wrote: »Oh, hey, look, a dead horse... let's beat it for a bit, shall we?
...that at least is what I imagine people who make yet another "gimme" post about achievements think like... especially when it pops up a mere day after the last topic!
Once again - achievements are completely optional.
Its your own choice if you -want- to spend the effort chasing them, or not.
Both on your main, and on your alts.
But the only thing that really matters from them is the dye unlocks, and those are already account wide. So you really don't need to pay attention to your achievements on your alts - except if you like to check on what you have done or not yet done on those characters.
Which is the main use I have for the achievment journal - see what skyshards I missed, or which craftings tyles this or that character still has to learn, etc.
Yeah, most will feel disinclined to go through the effort more then once.
So?
If it is important enough to them, they will make the effort.
If the effort seems too much for them, they will have to do without.
For now anyhow, though there is always those times when you might sit and look at ESO, thinking "...I feel bored..." and then you could go achievement hunting on your alts to have a purpose to your gaming, something to strive for...
...instead of whining about wanting everything account wide, and then leaving ESO for the next game after a single playthrough. Which we know is what would happen in all too many cases.
ESO already has way more account wide stuff then any other MMO I ever played, with shared bank, mail, guilds, dyes and the whole friggin champion system!
And I really cannot help but consider it as somewhat reeking of an entitlement-addled brain to ask for yet more...
Especially since newbies fresh out of coldharbour with high-end titles would seem pretty silly, and a slap in the face to those who are still working on getting there...
Wouldn't work that way ...
At character creation give an option to link character ... When you do this both characters now share all stats and achievements
When using a title it could be faxed to show it was earned on a different linked character, but by linking a character you get the option to redo all content at a higher difficulty ... Give us a reason to actually play our ALTs through all the content ... But only having to *** fish once0 -
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You keep linking this poll, but it has less than 100 votes. Not exactly a large portion of the player base, and the poll is over a year old, from Feb 2017.
Which is why more people should vote.
Again here have a vote: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/319473/do-u-want-account-wide-achievement-titlesEdited by don_kwek on February 27, 2018 2:38AM0 -
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✭✭SquareSausage wrote: »Always take a mega lol at the people who envision their charcaters as 'real people' and strive for them to be 'indivisuals'.
Abut yes achievements should be account wide, for those screaming of titles and character individuality well heck go and lock the title to the character who completes the specific achievemnt only but give the achievement pooints to the whole account.
Yeah, how silly it is for people to roleplay in a roleplaying game.
Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake1 -
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You obviously have no idea what OCD is like ...jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
um.... no, there is plenty of time. decide what you want to achieve.... plan how to do it and take it one step at a time....As a completionist i would welcome account wide achievements.
There is simply no way i'm going to get something like Master Angler or Grand Overlord or crafting research maxed on all of my 8 characters.
The amount of character based achievements is overwhelming for anyone that actively plays more than one character ...
iterative process.... gotta love it.
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Always take a mega lol at the people who have no clue what the RPG in MMORPG stands for ...SquareSausage wrote: »Always take a mega lol at the people who envision their charcaters as 'real people' and strive for them to be 'indivisuals'.
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But what if you consider that all the achievements are not the "degrees" of the player, but the achievements of the -character- they play?anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »the idea that one toon getting any achievement means that any other i create should get the same thing is just silly. what, i get a bsc so my children should also get one without doing the work?
If all your alts are different "students" yes they should each do the work.
But what if you consider there's only one student - the player - and he wants to get his degree in different universities without always having to start all over and get 14 different but identitical degrees ?
Kinda like... the difference between the driver, and the car they drive.
If you have multiple cars, and you get a sweet paint job for one of them, does that mean all your other cars also have the same paint job?
Would you go to the car shop and demand they paint all your other cars for free because you "already made the effort to pay for it once"?
Or if it was horses... and you win a race with one of your horses... does that mean all your other horses and the donkey in your stable too are "race winners"? Or do you have to win a race with them as well before they achieved a "win in a race"?
Its really annoying to have to repeat this all the time...
All these achievements are in the game. Nowhere else. You know, the game where you interact Through Your Character??
YOU the player did not learn how to be a master blacksmith. Your character did in the game.
YOU the player did not become a mass murderer. Your character did in the game.
YOU the player did not gain the magic power of aetherius through interaction with shyshards. Your character did in the game.
YOU the player did not hang monster trophies on your wall. Your character did in the game.
YOU the player did not become a level 50 templar. Your character did in the game.
...and that is why the titles associated with them float over your characters head in the game, and not above yours the players.
Get it yet?
I keep mentioing that one too, and its an entirely reasonable suggestion.Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »That's really all that I am personally after (dont want to get crucified for presuming what others might think). As I have said MANY MANY times, leave individual character achievement tabs exactly how they are, just simply add one that shows a cumulative achievement progress and point total for the entire account. Again, I really dont see any downside to people like yourself, and this is not something that would be terribly difficult to implement.
Add an account overview achievement page, opened from the character selection screen, that shows what achievement was completed by which of your characters, and when... with a total accountwide score... possibly even with rewards for multiple completions, like "finish all the non-DLC basic story content with every class, get new costume" or "gain alliance war achievement with character in each alliance, get new mount" or "do molag bal with character of each race, get new pet"...
That would -add- more reason to hunt achievements on alts, instead of giving people a sense of having finished the game after one playthrough, and loose the sense of having anything to strive for, leaving ESO for the next game...
Exactly right!There's never any argument when people are asking for a single account-wide listing e.g. on the character selection screen of all the achievements held by the different characters variously across the account. There are no real reasons to oppose that. The argument starts when people ask for all those achievements to be shared by all their characters so they only have to earn them once. There are very good reasons to oppose that.5