Account wide achievements seriously....
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Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Here is a question:
How would account wide achievements make the game better?
No, placating your OCD does not count as making the game better. Achievements do nothing for character progression or advancement, other than the secondary effect of Exp gains while doing the activities that earn those achievements. So, what would making the achievements account wide do to improve the game?Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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Well, yes and no.
A degree in medicine from Oxford, a degree in medicine from Cambridge, and a degree in medicine from London are different degrees, yet they all make you an MD.
Hence "different but identical".
I'd probably find better words if english was my native language...0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »the idea that one toon getting any achievement means that any other i create should get the same thing is just silly. what, i get a bsc so my children should also get one without doing the work?
If all your alts are different "students" yes they should each do the work.
But what if you consider there's only one student - the player - and he wants to get his degree in different universities without always having to start all over and get 14 different but identitical degrees ?
Some of the achievements are identical across characters. Does it really matter which character I'm on to catch fish?
Other achievements are different across characters. There is a difference between beating VMA on different classes. There is a difference between gaining various Battlegrounds or Dungeon achievements on different characters. Completing VDSA or trials is different on a tank, a healer, or a DPS character of different classes.
I have the achievement for reaching PVP rank Praetorian on my MagDK Healer.
I have the achievement for reaching PVP rank Captain on my stam warden.
Those represent two totally different characters and my level of achievement on them.1 -
jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »the idea that one toon getting any achievement means that any other i create should get the same thing is just silly. what, i get a bsc so my children should also get one without doing the work?
If all your alts are different "students" yes they should each do the work.
But what if you consider there's only one student - the player - and he wants to get his degree in different universities without always having to start all over and get 14 different but identitical degrees ?
there's the rub. i do not consider there is only one student. sure it is me pushing the buttons but each of my toons (#altoholics) is separate.3 -
jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Here is a question:
How would account wide achievements make the game better?
No, placating your OCD does not count as making the game better. Achievements do nothing for character progression or advancement, other than the secondary effect of Exp gains while doing the activities that earn those achievements. So, what would making the achievements account wide do to improve the game?
nail hit squarely on head here....2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Judging by how hostile some people are about this account wide comment.
I suspect they make real money out of it from illegal service of some sort ? Perhaps selling achievements ?
I dont know i just find it absurd to see a very select few seems to really go against it when they got nothing to lose (or do they ?)
No, people are against the idea because they don't like it.
When people disagree with you, it is not because they are somehow breaking the rules or making money out of something. It's simply because they don't agree with your idea.
Well the last vote shows more people wants it.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/319473/do-u-want-account-wide-achievement-titles
I am simply wondering why the nayers are so loud.
you need to realize that forum polls mean nothing. they do not represent the player base.
lol you need to realize that it means something.
Its an indication, a sample that represents a whole.
You could argue with its size. But thats the data that we have.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/319473/do-u-want-account-wide-achievement-titles
The forums themselves do not represent the player base for starters and the forum polls only grab those who have strong feelings one way or another in a given subject while the thread title has a significant draw or lack to draw.
In the end a forum poll doesn’t acquire its sample in a manner that can be considered for giving viable information. In short, it’s enteetajnme value only ans doesn’t mean anything or value.Edited by idk on February 26, 2018 6:29PM0 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.3 -
jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.3 -
TelvanniWizard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements 0 -
jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
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Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
Those MANY of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
Is that better? I would never presume to speak for anyone, but as these threads keep popping up, I am fairly confident that there are MANY people that have a problem with the current system. I am trying to explain why, not to act as if my speech is gospel. I am willing to bet that MANY of the people that are complaining about the current system do in fact play a lot of alts, otherwise, why would they care?
If you only play one toon, this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons and dont care about achievment points, again this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons AND care about achievement point totals, there is a reasonable chance you support some means of measuring account-wide achievements.3 -
Judging by how hostile some people are about this account wide comment.
I suspect they make real money out of it from illegal service of some sort ? Perhaps selling achievements ?
I dont know i just find it absurd to see a very select few seems to really go against it when they got nothing to lose (or do they ?)
I like getting the achievements again on alt. The tangible stuff is unlocked account wide, and my progression guild uses some achievements as benchmarks.2 -
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✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
Those MANY of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
Is that better? I would never presume to speak for anyone, but as these threads keep popping up, I am fairly confident that there are MANY people that have a problem with the current system. I am trying to explain why, not to act as if my speech is gospel. I am willing to bet that MANY of the people that are complaining about the current system do in fact play a lot of alts, otherwise, why would they care?
If you only play one toon, this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons and dont care about achievment points, again this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons AND care about achievement point totals, there is a reasonable chance you support some means of measuring account-wide achievements.
as far as i can tell around 8.5 million copies of eso have been bought. and you call a few people raising an issue here 'many'?
and again i play many toons and care about achievements but am fine with the current situation.Edited by jedtb16_ESO on February 26, 2018 7:05PM3 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
Those MANY of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
Is that better? I would never presume to speak for anyone, but as these threads keep popping up, I am fairly confident that there are MANY people that have a problem with the current system. I am trying to explain why, not to act as if my speech is gospel. I am willing to bet that MANY of the people that are complaining about the current system do in fact play a lot of alts, otherwise, why would they care?
If you only play one toon, this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons and dont care about achievment points, again this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons AND care about achievement point totals, there is a reasonable chance you support some means of measuring account-wide achievements.
as far as i can tell around 8.5 million copies of eso have been bought. and you call a few people raising an issue here 'many'?
and again i play many toons and care about achievements but am fine with the current situation.
Yeah, and by that standard, nothing we complain about on the forums constitutes "many players," when you consider that only 140,000 people have made a comment on the forums, while only 33k people stuck around long enough to make 10 comments judging by the badges.Edited by VaranisArano on February 26, 2018 7:07PM0 -
Grabmoore✭✭✭✭✭Of course it is optional. Playing ESO is optional.
This is merely a request to make end game players that collect achievements have more room to play their alt and try different play style.
It encourage people to play different class and different role.
Its a good thing.
It devalues some achievements. You could run flawless vMA once on a Mag sorc and wear it on your magplar or stamblade. Also, achievements like Perfect Purification are much harder on meele chars compared to Magblades etc.
It's not a good thing. You just get bored earlier and quit the game, because "you've done it all".
No, thank you.
Edit: It's the player and not the character, you say. However, if the player always chooses the easy mode, your suggestion would put him in the same boat like someone who buys skin runs. Sometimes the class does matter.Edited by Grabmoore on February 26, 2018 7:14PMEU - PC - Ebonheart Pact
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jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
Those MANY of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
Is that better? I would never presume to speak for anyone, but as these threads keep popping up, I am fairly confident that there are MANY people that have a problem with the current system. I am trying to explain why, not to act as if my speech is gospel. I am willing to bet that MANY of the people that are complaining about the current system do in fact play a lot of alts, otherwise, why would they care?
If you only play one toon, this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons and dont care about achievment points, again this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons AND care about achievement point totals, there is a reasonable chance you support some means of measuring account-wide achievements.
as far as i can tell around 8.5 million copies of eso have been bought. and you call a few people raising an issue here 'many'?
and again i play many toons and care about achievements but am fine with the current situation.
Yeah, and by that standard, nothing we complain about on the forums constitutes "many players," when you consider that only 140,000 people have made a comment on the forums, while only 33k people stuck around long enough to make 10 comments judging by the badges.
exactly right....
it's all in the data and demographics which zos/bethesda have and neither you nor i do.0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So we are talking about people who are altaholics and OCD on the completionist aspect.
I’ve mentioned it before but no onwncomemted on it. Would being able to see achievements account woes suffice?
I can see that being more playable that maybe getting all titles and such account wide.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭We have a nice balance of account-wide achievement rewards, while still allowing achievements to be a road map for what each individual character has done and can still do for the first time.
It by no means has to be an all or nothing deal.signing off0 -
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✭✭I don't see why not. It'd be a big convenience. It's not like they'd monetize it with crowns or anything. Oh wait....0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭As a player with 24 characters, I don't want account-wide achievements, I'd rather play the game fully with all of my characters - and that includes character-specific champion points and dye unlocks, for example. As for the bank slots, I'd rather they were a combination of shared and character slots, as per EQ2 and LoTRO,for example.
Do I want every achievement on every character? No.
Do I think that a character I've played for 5 hours should be entitled to the same achievements as one I've played for 50 hours? No.
If I'm just trying out a different class or build, do I need all the achievements for that character in order to assess the merits or appeal of that class or build? No.
Do I want to gain all the achievements I want for all my characters by next week? No. Next month? No. Next year? No. As and when will be fine by me. MMOs are intended to be played for years, not weeks or months, why the rush? Why ignore 99% of the game in order to reach the final 1% in double-quick time, even if you have already done it before? Guess what, a week after hitting endgame you'll have done all that before too!
Is it my characters that achieve things in the game, or is it me as the player behind them? In any meaningful sense it's my characters, but if there was an overall account summary screen to show the totality of what I had achieved as a player across the account then I'd have no problem with it, although it's not something that would particularly be of interest to me. It's a good compromise between the different player types, however, as is the present balance between account-wide and character-specific achievements.
It doesn't need changing.
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You keep linking this poll, but it has less than 100 votes. Not exactly a large portion of the player base, and the poll is over a year old, from Feb 2017.PC NA2 -
DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So we are talking about people who are altaholics and OCD on the completionist aspect.
I’ve mentioned it before but no onwncomemted on it. Would being able to see achievements account woes suffice?
I can see that being more playable that maybe getting all titles and such account wide.
I think the way to go is have an ac
I did. And I voted "no".
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JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭could be odd to run arround in low lvl char like lvl 10 with a Grand Overlord title? or Flawless? or any other title u just dont get the first hour u play the game?
As a player who has flawless and dromathra destroyer on multiple charachters, i would still like them to be accountwide aswell, it is not the characer who completed it, but the player behind the screen
Yes it is the player who complete the achievement not the toon, that is the logic behind it.
So getting the achievement on a "toon" that could never possibly do it is logical? Yes, the player did complete the achievement, playing a "toon" that they learned to play to the best possible use of that character's skills and abilities. So of course that player could do the same on a level 1 still in coldharbor jammies with a default weapon "toon". No? Gee. Perhaps that achievement is sort of dependent on the "toon" instead of only the player. Your mileage may vary, of course.3 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As a player with 24 characters, I don't want account-wide achievements, I'd rather play the game fully with all of my characters - and that includes character-specific champion points and dye unlocks, for example. As for the bank slots, I'd rather they were a combination of shared and character slots, as per EQ2 and LoTRO,for example.
Do I want every achievement on every character? No.
Do I think that a character I've played for 5 hours should be entitled to the same achievements as one I've played for 50 hours? No.
If I'm just trying out a different class or build, do I need all the achievements for that character in order to assess the merits or appeal of that class or build? No.
Do I want to gain all the achievements I want for all my characters by next week? No. Next month? No. Next year? No. As and when will be fine by me. MMOs are intended to be played for years, not weeks or months, why the rush? Why ignore 99% of the game in order to reach the final 1% in double-quick time, even if you have already done it before? Guess what, a week after hitting endgame you'll have done all that before too!
Is it my characters that achieve things in the game, or is it me as the player behind them? In any meaningful sense it's my characters, but if there was an overall account summary screen to show the totality of what I had achieved as a player across the account then I'd have no problem with it, although it's not something that would particularly be of interest to me. It's a good compromise between the different player types, however, as is the present balance between account-wide and character-specific achievements.
It doesn't need changing.
That's really all that I am personally after (dont want to get crucified for presuming what others might think). As I have said MANY MANY times, leave individual character achievement tabs exactly how they are, just simply add one that shows a cumulative achievement progress and point total for the entire account. Again, I really dont see any downside to people like yourself, and this is not something that would be terribly difficult to implement.
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✭✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
Those MANY of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
Is that better? I would never presume to speak for anyone, but as these threads keep popping up, I am fairly confident that there are MANY people that have a problem with the current system. I am trying to explain why, not to act as if my speech is gospel. I am willing to bet that MANY of the people that are complaining about the current system do in fact play a lot of alts, otherwise, why would they care?
If you only play one toon, this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons and dont care about achievment points, again this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons AND care about achievement point totals, there is a reasonable chance you support some means of measuring account-wide achievements.
as far as i can tell around 8.5 million copies of eso have been bought. and you call a few people raising an issue here 'many'?
and again i play many toons and care about achievements but am fine with the current situation.
We both know that this is an absurd standard. There certainly arent 8.5 million active players, and the forums are only a tiny fraction of the player base. This is a topic that pops up on the forums with some frequency, and it is therefore a reasonable assumption that there are a fair amount of players that would like some changes made with regards to achievements. I am one of them. You clearly are not.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭PeteDahhSneak wrote: »Judging by how hostile some people are about this account wide comment.
I suspect they make real money out of it from illegal service of some sort ? Perhaps selling achievements ?
I dont know i just find it absurd to see a very select few seems to really go against it when they got nothing to lose (or do they ?)
But I do have something to lose. I lose the sense of achievement for getting the 1000 chest achievement on my 4th character.
Or the joy of getting a Daedric General on a character that still needs that one (I already completed this on 3 characters).
Also the annoyance of getting the Flawless Tailfeather on 2 "wrong" characters before I got it on my collector.
And the warm and fuzzy feeling of finding a "new" skyshard.
Or the sense of accomplishment of finishing a hard achievement on more than one class.
And the general ability of tracking what my characters have or haven't done on an individual basis.
Having achievements by character is a plus for me.SydneyGrey wrote: »The only kind of achievements I'd want account-wide are the ones that take ridiculously long to get, like the I Like Ma'iq one, or the fishing achievement. Pretty much 99% of the rest I'm fine with not being account-wide. If everything was account-wide, then there'd be no more achievements to strive for after a while.
Nooooo... not M'aiq! Must get I Like M'aiq on all characters!!!
Read what I said on the last page, because I feel like addressed every thing you just said you'd have a problem with.
Yeah, I'm not opposed to a unified achievement page as long as each character gets to keep their own individual page. There is some discussion to be had about whether or not "kill" achievements should count no matter what character you are on or if you should earn the achievement on a single character for it to show up on the unified page.
Personally I think if they made it so all kills count, then they would have to multiply the numbers required for them. As I mentioned, I have the 1000 chest achievement on 3 characters already and I've probably looted over 5000 chests in the game already.
For me, having an alt that needs an achievement that my main already has encourages me to play that alt when my guild is doing something related to those achievements.The Moot Councillor4 -
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✭i need the achievements to be separated so i can track the things i need to do to level up guilds and pick skill points. i like to have my main achievements on main character, i think that it works fine. i wouldn't mind to have some achievements shared, the ones that don't affect the tasks we need to track, but never the titles.0 -
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✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »TelvanniWizard wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »We need more threads on this topic I guess
Explain to me pls how you're "locked into 1 toon". I do not comprehend.
It's pretty simple. If you are a player that cares about your achievement point total, chances are that you play mostly with one character. This absolutely discourages alt-play. Those of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
In just about every game I can think of, you can satisfy the achievements with multiple play-throughs. Why should this be any different.
I would never suggest removing the achievements tied to individual characters, but adding an additional account wide achievement tab should be trivial and is something I would really like them to add.
There is no downside to RP fanboys that want everything done on one toon, and it would be good for altoholics that like to spread things around. It's a win win. They only possible issues would be certain titles. If you want to keep those tied to a character, fine, as it really doesnt matter. The only real issue would be level 15 Flawless Conquers and that sort of thing. Not like we dont already have level 15s running around with dro-mathra skins and the like.
the bit i put in bold..... i play multiple toons and have no problem with the situation as it stands.
you are not talking for people who play multiple toons you are only talking for yourself.... same as everyone else here.
Me too. And I want unified achievements
fair enough.... as long as you acknowledge you are speaking for yourself.....
Those MANY of us that play with multiple toons get very frustrated that there is no way to measure the achievement progress of your account as a whole.
Is that better? I would never presume to speak for anyone, but as these threads keep popping up, I am fairly confident that there are MANY people that have a problem with the current system. I am trying to explain why, not to act as if my speech is gospel. I am willing to bet that MANY of the people that are complaining about the current system do in fact play a lot of alts, otherwise, why would they care?
If you only play one toon, this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons and dont care about achievment points, again this is not an issue for you.
If you play multiple toons AND care about achievement point totals, there is a reasonable chance you support some means of measuring account-wide achievements.
as far as i can tell around 8.5 million copies of eso have been bought. and you call a few people raising an issue here 'many'?
and again i play many toons and care about achievements but am fine with the current situation.
We both know that this is an absurd standard. There certainly arent 8.5 million active players, and the forums are only a tiny fraction of the player base. This is a topic that pops up on the forums with some frequency, and it is therefore a reasonable assumption that there are a fair amount of players that would like some changes made with regards to achievements. I am one of them. You clearly are not.
'a fair amount' ... how many is that?0
