MAGPLAR PVP build advice.

TheDoomsdayMonster

The unthinkable has become a reality on my Magplar: Combat Physician has been permanently replaced by Spectre's Eye (I still use CP for PvE though)...

There are times when Spectre's Eye isn't doing much for you, but sometimes its so clutch that its mindboggling...

The ability to passively dodge attacks that would otherwise Poison or CC you is too good and ultimately saves you more in resources/damage sustained than the raw numbers otherwise indicate...


I was doing some small group PvP outside of Chalman and two Sorcs cast Flame Reach on me and I passively dodged both of them...

Think about what that meant; I saved Stamina from not having to Break Free, I didn't take any damage, so I didn't need to cast a Heal on myself, and since I wasn't CC'ed, I didn't have to endure my opponents killing burst...


Spectre's Eye is (IMHO) a very good set for a Magplar...

Brutusmax1mus

Ice staves op

Waffennacht

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Ice staves op

Ssshhhhh

Been running frost for over a month now.

Testing sets ATM but here's a fun combo ATM

Domi
Caluurion
Pariah

Light armor.

- I'm a vampire

On Summerset, I would test this set up with Zaan

Datolite

I'm so over the single monster piece phase of this game. Bring on Summerset.

That Caluurion/Zaan setup sounds deadly.

How viable does this sound with a destro/resto staff setup? (for BGs and for Cyro)

Transmutation
Riposte
Valkyn

With everything into spell crit and dmg. Tri stat food. Would light armor passive give enough penetration in BGs?

Waffennacht

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm so over the single monster piece phase of this game. Bring on Summerset.

That Caluurion/Zaan setup sounds deadly.

How viable does this sound with a destro/resto staff setup? (for BGs and for Cyro)

Transmutation
Riposte
Valkyn

With everything into spell crit and dmg. Tri stat food. Would light armor passive give enough penetration in BGs?

Imo, in a group absolutely fantastic.

Solo, you will have to pick and choose targets; prioritizing the squishest enemies.

You'll find that DKs and Wardens and depending on how they are built - Sorcs and fellow Templars - to be too tanky to kill.

Mag NBs are surprisingly rare on Xbox console BGs, so while they can be tanky, I doubt you'll run into many (if Xbox)

You won't be able to kill them alone, they won't kill you (unless of course someone makes a mistake)

I've ran very similar set ups to a lot of success. BGs are where they're best imo, because you're always in a group.

You'll debuff enemies, be tanky AF, buff your allies and heal. Damage will be enough to kill glass cannons and pressure to kill tanks with buds.

I personally think it'll do well

Kartalin

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm so over the single monster piece phase of this game. Bring on Summerset.

That Caluurion/Zaan setup sounds deadly.

How viable does this sound with a destro/resto staff setup? (for BGs and for Cyro)

Transmutation
Riposte
Valkyn

With everything into spell crit and dmg. Tri stat food. Would light armor passive give enough penetration in BGs?

I run those sets in open world pvp in small groups where I’m not a dedicated healer. Works well. Also I’m running destro/sword and shield so riposte is on both bars and trans only on back bar (extended ritual to proc).

Datolite

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datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm so over the single monster piece phase of this game. Bring on Summerset.

That Caluurion/Zaan setup sounds deadly.

How viable does this sound with a destro/resto staff setup? (for BGs and for Cyro)

Transmutation
Riposte
Valkyn

With everything into spell crit and dmg. Tri stat food. Would light armor passive give enough penetration in BGs?

Imo, in a group absolutely fantastic.

Solo, you will have to pick and choose targets; prioritizing the squishest enemies.

You'll find that DKs and Wardens and depending on how they are built - Sorcs and fellow Templars - to be too tanky to kill.

Mag NBs are surprisingly rare on Xbox console BGs, so while they can be tanky, I doubt you'll run into many (if Xbox)

You won't be able to kill them alone, they won't kill you (unless of course someone makes a mistake)

I've ran very similar set ups to a lot of success. BGs are where they're best imo, because you're always in a group.

You'll debuff enemies, be tanky AF, buff your allies and heal. Damage will be enough to kill glass cannons and pressure to kill tanks with buds.

I personally think it'll do well

Nice. I was actually thinking maybe go all out heals with this and slot Troll King, restro ult and all.

Question: would you recommend SPC instead one one of those sets?

Waffennacht

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

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Waffennacht wrote: »

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm so over the single monster piece phase of this game. Bring on Summerset.

That Caluurion/Zaan setup sounds deadly.

How viable does this sound with a destro/resto staff setup? (for BGs and for Cyro)

Transmutation
Riposte
Valkyn

With everything into spell crit and dmg. Tri stat food. Would light armor passive give enough penetration in BGs?

Imo, in a group absolutely fantastic.

Solo, you will have to pick and choose targets; prioritizing the squishest enemies.

You'll find that DKs and Wardens and depending on how they are built - Sorcs and fellow Templars - to be too tanky to kill.

Mag NBs are surprisingly rare on Xbox console BGs, so while they can be tanky, I doubt you'll run into many (if Xbox)

You won't be able to kill them alone, they won't kill you (unless of course someone makes a mistake)

I've ran very similar set ups to a lot of success. BGs are where they're best imo, because you're always in a group.

You'll debuff enemies, be tanky AF, buff your allies and heal. Damage will be enough to kill glass cannons and pressure to kill tanks with buds.

I personally think it'll do well

Nice. I was actually thinking maybe go all out heals with this and slot Troll King, restro ult and all.

Question: would you recommend SPC instead one one of those sets?

Not necessarily instead of, if you want to offensively buff your allies, yes.

Riposte, Transmutation, SPC, all help you and your allies, they just differ in how.

It also depends on what your allies are running, if I'm running a defensive leaning build, your buffs won't help me as much where SPC would be preferred, sane if I was a Stam NB or ganker.

If I'm running something I'm running now (proc build) I want your defensive buffs as your offensive ones won't help me as much.

But simply, all your choices are sublime

Datolite

Yeah, this is probably a choice I'd want to be able to have on the fly depending on what my group needs. Good call

Minno

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datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm so over the single monster piece phase of this game. Bring on Summerset.

That Caluurion/Zaan setup sounds deadly.

How viable does this sound with a destro/resto staff setup? (for BGs and for Cyro)

Transmutation
Riposte
Valkyn

With everything into spell crit and dmg. Tri stat food. Would light armor passive give enough penetration in BGs?

Imo, in a group absolutely fantastic.

Solo, you will have to pick and choose targets; prioritizing the squishest enemies.

You'll find that DKs and Wardens and depending on how they are built - Sorcs and fellow Templars - to be too tanky to kill.

Mag NBs are surprisingly rare on Xbox console BGs, so while they can be tanky, I doubt you'll run into many (if Xbox)

You won't be able to kill them alone, they won't kill you (unless of course someone makes a mistake)

I've ran very similar set ups to a lot of success. BGs are where they're best imo, because you're always in a group.

You'll debuff enemies, be tanky AF, buff your allies and heal. Damage will be enough to kill glass cannons and pressure to kill tanks with buds.

I personally think it'll do well

Nice. I was actually thinking maybe go all out heals with this and slot Troll King, restro ult and all.

Question: would you recommend SPC instead one one of those sets?

Not necessarily instead of, if you want to offensively buff your allies, yes.

Riposte, Transmutation, SPC, all help you and your allies, they just differ in how.

It also depends on what your allies are running, if I'm running a defensive leaning build, your buffs won't help me as much where SPC would be preferred, sane if I was a Stam NB or ganker.

If I'm running something I'm running now (proc build) I want your defensive buffs as your offensive ones won't help me as much.

But simply, all your choices are sublime

it's also likely troll king is already picked up by a stam player. And given there arent many combat effective stamina monster helms for buffing teams, you might save that for your stamina breathren.

Checkmath

The new trial healer set, which provides major courage will surely see some uses in pvp. 30 seconds of more weapon and spelldamage is insane, since in a coordinated group this buff is very easy to get. The magplar supporters should have a look at it, when summerset comes life.

Checkmath

btw i think its a good idea to look for other sources for damage on magplars with summerset. hitting some speedy chars with jabs is extremely difficult. so every enemy on a stamsorc orc or someone with speed pots already will hardly be hit by jabs. with summerset some players may switch to speedy jewelry trait, so even less enemies against which jabs are kind of useless...

Brutusmax1mus

Checkmath wrote: »

btw i think its a good idea to look for other sources for damage on magplars with summerset. hitting some speedy chars with jabs is extremely difficult. so every enemy on a stamsorc orc or someone with speed pots already will hardly be hit by jabs. with summerset some players may switch to speedy jewelry trait, so even less enemies against which jabs are kind of useless...

Add it to the other things that make it useless. Playing templar takes too much work at this point.

Lexxypwns

Checkmath wrote: »

btw i think its a good idea to look for other sources for damage on magplars with summerset. hitting some speedy chars with jabs is extremely difficult. so every enemy on a stamsorc orc or someone with speed pots already will hardly be hit by jabs. with summerset some players may switch to speedy jewelry trait, so even less enemies against which jabs are kind of useless...

Best I can tell Destro weaves+elemental weapons is superior to sweeps for next patch.

VirtualElizabeth

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datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm so over the single monster piece phase of this game. Bring on Summerset.

That Caluurion/Zaan setup sounds deadly.

How viable does this sound with a destro/resto staff setup? (for BGs and for Cyro)

Transmutation
Riposte
Valkyn

With everything into spell crit and dmg. Tri stat food. Would light armor passive give enough penetration in BGs?

Imo, in a group absolutely fantastic.

Solo, you will have to pick and choose targets; prioritizing the squishest enemies.

You'll find that DKs and Wardens and depending on how they are built - Sorcs and fellow Templars - to be too tanky to kill.

Mag NBs are surprisingly rare on Xbox console BGs, so while they can be tanky, I doubt you'll run into many (if Xbox)

You won't be able to kill them alone, they won't kill you (unless of course someone makes a mistake)

I've ran very similar set ups to a lot of success. BGs are where they're best imo, because you're always in a group.

You'll debuff enemies, be tanky AF, buff your allies and heal. Damage will be enough to kill glass cannons and pressure to kill tanks with buds.

I personally think it'll do well

Nice. I was actually thinking maybe go all out heals with this and slot Troll King, restro ult and all.

Question: would you recommend SPC instead one one of those sets?

Not necessarily instead of, if you want to offensively buff your allies, yes.

Riposte, Transmutation, SPC, all help you and your allies, they just differ in how.

It also depends on what your allies are running, if I'm running a defensive leaning build, your buffs won't help me as much where SPC would be preferred, sane if I was a Stam NB or ganker.

If I'm running something I'm running now (proc build) I want your defensive buffs as your offensive ones won't help me as much.

But simply, all your choices are sublime

Speaking of healing sets in PVP, this would apply to either Magblad, Warden or Templar actually. Has anyone ran with the Healing Mage Set AKA Mending:

Healing Mage Set


LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160

(2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery

(3 items) Adds 1096 Max Magicka

(4 items) Adds 2% Healing Done

(5 items) When you use an area of effect heal ability, you reduce the Weapon Damage of all enemies within 10 meters of you by 430 for 3 seconds.

My concern about the fifth item is with the variation of player styles and the fact we are dealing with actual people vs NPCs in trials, would this fifth item actually be of much help in PVP?

Minno

Checkmath wrote: »

btw i think its a good idea to look for other sources for damage on magplars with summerset. hitting some speedy chars with jabs is extremely difficult. so every enemy on a stamsorc orc or someone with speed pots already will hardly be hit by jabs. with summerset some players may switch to speedy jewelry trait, so even less enemies against which jabs are kind of useless...

Frost reach + snare poisons. If the immobilze doesn't hit then, the snare will (the status effect classification ignores forward momentum.)

Next patch that might change, but frost reach plus cost poisons will ba better to pair due to the high costs of these abilities when spammed.

Otherwise jabs is only if you catch them with a stun.

TheDoomsdayMonster

Checkmath wrote: »

btw i think its a good idea to look for other sources for damage on magplars with summerset. hitting some speedy chars with jabs is extremely difficult. so every enemy on a stamsorc orc or someone with speed pots already will hardly be hit by jabs. with summerset some players may switch to speedy jewelry trait, so even less enemies against which jabs are kind of useless...

An effective combo for me lately has been:

Purifying Light<<Gap Close with Explosive Charge<<Devouring Swarm<<Invigorating Drain (so you can lock them in place while the Swarm eats away at them)...

I imagine that will still be effective even after Summerset...