PTS Patch Notes v3.3.0

Grimlok_S

irstarkey57 wrote: »

Grimlok_S wrote: »

irstarkey57 wrote: »

Everyone saying the changes look great. Are you not seeing the large nerf to offbalance, aka 10 percent damage nerf across the board?

Smells like a buff to me!

I advise you take a look at the 15-20 second off balance cooldown, then rethink whether that is a buff.

Cooldown only applies to Boss Enemies /shrug

Xvorg

grannas211 wrote: »

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Is it just me... or does Zaan not make sense? You’ll most likely be doing light/heavy attacks on a magicka based build with a destro/resto staff (which is ranged) but the beam is melee range? So we’re using a staff within melee range?

Yeah, you could light/heavy attack with a sword- but most of your crit will be in spells not weapons. That makes the monster set less effective.

Mag DK is what screams to me for this set

Though magblade and magplar will use it way better

Abysswarrior45

Stam dk here waiting for a potential buff or maybe a speed up of .4secs on dizzy swing....

Rianai

Crowd control immunity now grants immunity to all interrupt effects. After a cast time or channeled ability is interrupted, you will be immune to any future interrupts until crowd control immunity wears off.

Does this also apply to ressing, meaning it becomes impossible to prevent players from ressing their allies in PvP?

disintegr8

Don't like the change to RotW transmute crystal drops, considering the drop rate from dungeons is so low. If drop rates do not increase, I would like to see a matching drop in transmute costs - a 'bag limit' of 200 crystals (for ESO+ members) does not even allow to to transmute a 5 piece set of gear.

I also don't see any indication of how many writ vouchers the storage chests will cost - does anyone know?

Also not a lot of detail about the homes - Crown store only or in game gold, achievement based?

I know stuff changes between initial PTS and actual release but please give us some idea...

Biro123

Am I the only pvper here looking at those new sets and thinking.. "Dammit, looks like I'll have to drag my reluctant carcass down a dungeon again".

MissBizz

zassasaurus wrote: »

why make template characters only have 100,000 gold? thats not even enough to fully upgrade bagspace.....

@zassasaurus use crowns to upgrade bag space on PTS. Crowns refresh every day and everything only cost 1 crown each.

Maybe they limited gold to get feedback on gold costs for the outfit system?

Xvorg

Emasculate wrote: »

With the current changes, can Templars get a stamina gap closer, there's two morphs of toppling charge both magicka. I was curious if we could get the AoE off-Balance like it was in previous patches. This would be a unique change to Templars and let them be more versatile in Open World Cyrodill.

Temps have a magicka based gap closer that stuns and with that, any DW attack has increased 15% dmg. Try Steelnado and youl see a big dmg increase.

Consider that, with the dmg reduction to stam gap closers, having one and using a magicka one with a great utility makes a little difference.

LiquidPony

irstarkey57 wrote: »

Sure ... but right now no one uses magDK's in PvE because they constantly consume the off-balance debuff and tank your group's DPS.

At least now your magDK won't be a detriment to the rest of the group.

No, the reason they weren't allowed is because they take up a melee spot. If this were the case. No one would be using stam DK's either because they hvy attack everything. The reason no one uses magdk is because they can stick a stamina toon in there to do 10-15k more dps. Magdks didn't need a change to off balance. They need led to be able to bring something special to the table. More damage, something. But nope.

Those are 2 different things, though, aren't they?

MagDKs aren't optimal in most groups because they do less DPS than other melee builds.

MagDKs aren't allowed in groups because they negatively impact everyone else's DPS (although even this is the subject of a lot of debate and misinformation, as I've seen some people claim that Lash does not consume off-balance and does not affect other players in the group, and I've seen plenty of people claim the opposite).

Thogard

Dracane wrote: »

Stam Warden remains untouched.

Not untouched. Stamden got a buff. Decreased healing seed cost. Nerf inc soon though

Mauin

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The “Hide Helmet” hat and Outfit style is not currently functioning properly, and will be fixed in the next PTS patch.

Does this also include the hide helmet option under gameplay? Either I'm blind or it has decided to go on vacation.

Assuming I'm not blind, I'm hoping it's merely on vacation and not gone for good, because I'd like to keep helmets hidden on my costumes. I'd like to be able to see my characters heads no matter what they have on, otherwise I won't be able to make use of all the hair styles and whatnot I have purchased in the past.

Tasear

Poor werewolves though..

notyuu

Small suggestion, for the costume stuff, would it be possible to get a "none" option?
i.e. you select it on the shoulders and your shoulder Armour is rendered invisible

...also a little bummed out that I can't make a staff sword/sword that shoots magic, and the lack of trial group finder

Ragnaroek93

So a magicka Dk can spam Powerlash 5 times in a row now (confirmed by a friend on PTS). Totally not overbuffed

Flake

@ZOS_GinaBruno Where is the Earthgore changes?

Dagoth_Rac

Grimlok_S wrote: »

irstarkey57 wrote: »

Grimlok_S wrote: »

irstarkey57 wrote: »

Everyone saying the changes look great. Are you not seeing the large nerf to offbalance, aka 10 percent damage nerf across the board?

Smells like a buff to me!

I advise you take a look at the 15-20 second off balance cooldown, then rethink whether that is a buff.

Cooldown only applies to Boss Enemies /shrug

But Boss Enemies are pretty much the only place that DPS matters. /shrug

irstarkey57

LiquidPony wrote: »

irstarkey57 wrote: »

Sure ... but right now no one uses magDK's in PvE because they constantly consume the off-balance debuff and tank your group's DPS.

At least now your magDK won't be a detriment to the rest of the group.

No, the reason they weren't allowed is because they take up a melee spot. If this were the case. No one would be using stam DK's either because they hvy attack everything. The reason no one uses magdk is because they can stick a stamina toon in there to do 10-15k more dps. Magdks didn't need a change to off balance. They need led to be able to bring something special to the table. More damage, something. But nope.

Those are 2 different things, though, aren't they?

MagDKs aren't optimal in most groups because they do less DPS than other melee builds.

MagDKs aren't allowed in groups because they negatively impact everyone else's DPS (although even this is the subject of a lot of debate and misinformation, as I've seen some people claim that Lash does not consume off-balance and does not affect other players in the group, and I've seen plenty of people claim the opposite).

Yea my point is that stam DK's who are welcomed into trials also consume the offbalance for EVERYONE as well with their hvy attacks. However they are welcomed because of their potential dps output. Magdks consume offbalance with their whips but can't do the same damage in the same melee spot. So yea, while it's true they consume off balance, so does everyone else's hvy attacks.

Xvorg

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

"Boss enemies can only be set Off Balance once every 15 to 20 seconds"

Isn't this a bit too much. This is like a 25% uptime now which in term is equal to 7.5% damage loss for each person in the group. This is a huge nerf for most DDs.

@rosendoichinoveb17_ESO I was wondering about that one too.

@ZOS_GinaBruno How long does off balance actually last if it is not removed by a heavy attack or flame lash? And why is it 15-20s, does it vary by boss, or what is the actual cooldown?

It's definitely a nerf, I'm just not sure by how much. In a group with a lot of stamina DPS heavy attacking and a few lightning walls, off balance could be sub 50% already, but with other groups >90% is also common.

It most likely means that there's no point in having more than 1 or 2 lightning walls, so most Magicka DPS will go to an inferno back bar. This will lead to MagDK's becoming more desirable in a group (engulfing flames 10% increased fire damage for everyone). It also could mean Ilambris will find more use again, with inferno/lightning becoming more popular than lightning/lightning. It also may make 75 points in Thaumaturge no longer worth it, so more can be placed in MAA, EE, or EB.

I'm predicting a shift in the Magicka meta with little actual DPS loss, while stamina may lose around 5% DPS.

Actually Ive been working on a mdK burst build without puting a single point into thaum (not even for off balance) and seems way stronger

TomCarterESO

MissBizz wrote: »

TomCarterESO wrote: »

So the level up rewards that are revcieved every 5 levels, do we still get these rewards if we’re already Level 50? ZOS_GinaBruno

No. This was confirmed on ESO Live @TomCarterESO

A 15th character slot will be available to purchase.

Many of the big rewards (such as crates and mount) are 1 time per account anyways.

Oh, and it's that 10k horse from the stables..

One thing I don’t want to do right now is level a new character, borrrringgggg

Xvorg

CrazYDunm3r wrote: »

The [snip] power lash buff... I'm crying with joy. And AOE fixes and and... Thanks ZOS

Edit: I'm a PvP player so that is why I have this "buff" opinion

What buff? I see a big nerf there. Some 2H mdK used a full heavy before power lash to trigger Follow up... now that option has gone forever...

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Stamicka

Please stop with the CP increases...

Put

Nothing for Stam DK's? Are you trying to kill your game?

Neoauspex

"Reduced the damage of all gap closers by 10%, except Templars... we doubled that $&+! for Templars hahaaaaaaa Templars are suckers"

Abysswarrior45

Stamicka wrote: »

Please stop with the CP increases...

Agreed. Leave CP where its at and figure out some other way to reward long time players. The healing reduction specs are getting out of hand in zergs.

Xvorg

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

So a magicka Dk can spam Powerlash 5 times in a row now (confirmed by a friend on PTS). Totally not overbuffed

Stupid design. I suppose that's against a dungeon boss, otherwise it is the most stupid change ever done.

Stamden

irstarkey57 wrote: »

Sure ... but right now no one uses magDK's in PvE because they constantly consume the off-balance debuff and tank your group's DPS.

At least now your magDK won't be a detriment to the rest of the group.

No, the reason they weren't allowed is because they take up a melee spot. If this were the case. No one would be using stam DK's either because they hvy attack everything. The reason no one uses magdk is because they can stick a stamina toon in there to do 10-15k more dps. Magdks didn't need a change to off balance. They need led to be able to bring something special to the table. More damage, something. But nope.

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This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

akl77

Finally you gonna fix Templar beam and jabs.

casparian

Xvorg wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

So a magicka Dk can spam Powerlash 5 times in a row now (confirmed by a friend on PTS). Totally not overbuffed

Stupid design. I suppose that's against a dungeon boss, otherwise it is the most stupid change ever done.

No, it is also against other players in PVP.

My best guess is that they designed that change around improving magDK PVE performance, and haven't given a lot of though to how it will impact PVP. As is on PTS now, Power Lash is now a spammable that both damages and heals with a 5-digit tooltip and costs literally nothing. I know magDKs have been calling for a buff, but this is just over the top.

Qbiken

Faulgor wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

Boss enemies can only be set Off Balance once every 15 to 20 seconds. After the first Off Balance debuff ends on a boss enemy, they will be immune to subsequent Off Balance debuffs until this immunity duration is over.

RIP Heavy Attack builds.

RIP magDK´s,......

But they were already dead

Trashs1

Curse of Doylemish (Heavy)
(2) Max Health
(3) Max Health
(4) Spell Damage
(4) Weapon Damage
(5) When you hit a taunted monster with a fully-charged Heavy Attack or any enemy that is stunned or immobilized with a fully-charged Heavy Attack, you deal an additional 12040 Physical Damage. This effect can occur once every 7 seconds.

so thats basically kinda old viper for stam dks and stamsorcs

i like it :_)