The Brass Soldier - WARNING You may become "Nervous"!

GrigorijMalahevich

Still waiting to become nervous

Waffennacht

Valera Progib wrote: »

Still waiting to become nervous

Lol it's a reference to the... At least 3 players that said, "that health level makes me nervous" if you aren't nervous now, I doubt you'll get there

Brutusmax1mus

I've got a raging nervous right now

GrigorijMalahevich

Waffennacht wrote: »

Valera Progib wrote: »

Still waiting to become nervous

Lol it's a reference to the... At least 3 players that said, "that health level makes me nervous" if you aren't nervous now, I doubt you'll get there

Low health makes me excited!!!

HiImRex

can we stop pretending like there weren't better made brass fortress builds day 1 of this patch

I swear every ESO build thread or video is like

"OK GUYS I'VE PERFECTED THIS MASSIVE SUSTAIN MASSIVE DAMAGE MASSIVE HUGE BALLS UNENDING *** BUILD"
*whispers* bone pirate veli agility

ITS A SECRET SHHH DONT TELL ANYONE THE META IS ABOUT TO CHANGEEEE

A_G_G_R_O

No one should run brass, just a terrible build.

Waffennacht

HiImRex wrote: »

can we stop pretending like there weren't better made brass fortress builds day 1 of this patch

I swear every ESO build thread or video is like

"OK GUYS I'VE PERFECTED THIS MASSIVE SUSTAIN MASSIVE DAMAGE MASSIVE HUGE BALLS UNENDING *** BUILD"
*whispers* bone pirate veli agility

ITS A SECRET SHHH DONT TELL ANYONE THE META IS ABOUT TO CHANGEEEE

I'm meta now? Damn, that's kinda what I go against. Shoot, I don't remember ever claiming to be BiS, but if I did that was a mistake!

A_G_G_R_O wrote: »

No one should run brass, just a terrible build.

Shoot again, it's a terrible build, must make me one of the best players ever seeing as I am on leaderboards and consistently win duels against even Emperors.

You know you're popular when haters show up, especially when you've only ever claimed to try and inspire new ideas.

But thanks for bumps gents! Always hate it when one of my threads die

Adenoma

It's almost like you give the vibe of a reasonable, nice, non-toxic player that just likes to try new stuff and puts it out there as public knowledge. Weird, @Waffennacht.

Waffennacht

Those above posts got me thinking

Here's a little story:

When I first started about 3 years ago I wrote my very first guide. It was a tanky mag sorc. I posted it, guess how many replies it got? - 0, it was that bad. Nice people cringed and turned away, negative people laughed and turned away. It was not deserving of a single comment.
Take what that means as you will

Second story is about how I inspired the changing of the PvE meta. Did I make the build? No, did I come up with the idea? Nope. A player read a single line from one of my guides and it inspired him to create a build. Within 2 weeks balance was nerfed.

That was my proudest moment. I had helped someone think outside the box and create something revolutionary! My guides aren't to be followed like a map, just give ideas and inspiration - just like how @Dillpat inspired me.

I'm not about Meta or BiS, I'm about new and different. Of course I won't ever be as good as possible, I got bored of running the same thing as everyone else years ago.

A_G_G_R_O

Its not out of the box.

Waffennacht

A_G_G_R_O wrote: »

Its not out of the box.

The only time I've seen brass was from @Dillpat (which is why I acknowledged him)

@A_G_G_R_O where have you seen such builds? (It isn't Tamriel foundry)

Or are you just stating that some inner circle of players that haven't posted on the forums have talked about it?

Because I'm not apart of such inner circles.

I only really have any communication with other players on the forums.

If you could link me to this already posted build you're talking about, I'd love to read it.

Edit: oh you joined the 9th of this month, must not be anything from our forums.

Adenoma

Join my circle, @Waffennacht . I'll chat you up all day about weird build choices. Admittedly, on stamwarden I feel like I have to run 7L and then I get to choose some other 5 piece for now. I also need to learn to stop sucking with dizzying swing/stop working night shifts (I just started, haha) so I can practice during prime time. I guess that's what I deserve for playing stamDK and magDK for such a long while.

KingJ

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

well ok,

i played now in the uesp builder and i get alot better stats when i use 5 ravager+ 5 sevent legion+ lava foot

but thats might be another playstyle than

@Trashs1 regarding the UESP builder, note that it doesn't include Automaton's 5-piece bonus in your stats or ability tooltips.

yes i know and i calculated the bonus on top, still win for ravager sevent combo

Check the PotL tooltip on Ravager 7th. Plus your low max stam will hurt your sustain. I literally run 7th+ravager on stamplar and while the damage is sick, the sustain is harder with the smaller max stat pool and lower regen, cost reduction. I basically have to heavy attack before and after every combo and you can’t kite much. It’s less useful solo because you can’t sustain when pressured by multiple people, especially with no SnB

yes lexxy thats called ballance in my eyes. such a high burst dmg and good surviveability should not be possible to sustain also so well

i get today internet in my new flat. i will definatelyx try it since i have an unused lizzard templar on my acc.

Agreed, no criticism.

KingJ wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Wanted to update:

Working on the mag version now.

3.5k spell DMG buffed. 2k Regen unbuffed. 31k spell resistance, 29.5k physical. 35k max mag. About 20k health.

Oh and btw, I have been theory crafting a Magicka Templar build using that will use:

Mighty Chudan x2...
Fortified Brass x5...
War Maiden x5...

I am working out the details, but it would yield me (in a PvP

I went with BSW over maiden, SnB, and Grothdarr

Nice...

With BSW + Grothdarr, the dps should be nice...

Btw, is that Health in PvP or PvE?

Why BsW what's your uptime on it?

BSW is up when you need to burst, because it won’t proc until you use reflective light, it adds 626 buffed spell damage on the proc, that’s all that matters

For people saying the health is low, you can always run it with vamp, undeaths added mitigation at low HP works to mock a higher HP pool and you’ll have more sustain.

I just feel reflective light isnt enough to keep it up.

Waffennacht

Adenoma wrote: »

Join my circle, @Waffennacht . I'll chat you up all day about weird build choices. Admittedly, on stamwarden I feel like I have to run 7L and then I get to choose some other 5 piece for now. I also need to learn to stop sucking with dizzying swing/stop working night shifts (I just started, haha) so I can practice during prime time. I guess that's what I deserve for playing stamDK and magDK for such a long while.

I have a stamden too lol, shelfed it because of the OP threads. Even if I don't agree, I won't run controversial elements any more. I was thinking of bringing him back if I could come up with something unique. If you're Xbox, na I'm looking for another guild and would love to join one.

KingJ wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

well ok,

i played now in the uesp builder and i get alot better stats when i use 5 ravager+ 5 sevent legion+ lava foot

but thats might be another playstyle than

@Trashs1 regarding the UESP builder, note that it doesn't include Automaton's 5-piece bonus in your stats or ability tooltips.

yes i know and i calculated the bonus on top, still win for ravager sevent combo

Check the PotL tooltip on Ravager 7th. Plus your low max stam will hurt your sustain. I literally run 7th+ravager on stamplar and while the damage is sick, the sustain is harder with the smaller max stat pool and lower regen, cost reduction. I basically have to heavy attack before and after every combo and you can’t kite much. It’s less useful solo because you can’t sustain when pressured by multiple people, especially with no SnB

yes lexxy thats called ballance in my eyes. such a high burst dmg and good surviveability should not be possible to sustain also so well

i get today internet in my new flat. i will definatelyx try it since i have an unused lizzard templar on my acc.

Agreed, no criticism.

KingJ wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Wanted to update:

Working on the mag version now.

3.5k spell DMG buffed. 2k Regen unbuffed. 31k spell resistance, 29.5k physical. 35k max mag. About 20k health.

Oh and btw, I have been theory crafting a Magicka Templar build using that will use:

Mighty Chudan x2...
Fortified Brass x5...
War Maiden x5...

I am working out the details, but it would yield me (in a PvP

I went with BSW over maiden, SnB, and Grothdarr

Nice...

With BSW + Grothdarr, the dps should be nice...

Btw, is that Health in PvP or PvE?

Why BsW what's your uptime on it?

BSW is up when you need to burst, because it won’t proc until you use reflective light, it adds 626 buffed spell damage on the proc, that’s all that matters

For people saying the health is low, you can always run it with vamp, undeaths added mitigation at low HP works to mock a higher HP pool and you’ll have more sustain.

I just feel reflective light isnt enough to keep it up.

I'm not nearly as surgical as @Lexxypwns (nor @zParallaxz ) so what I was doing was also running vamp bane for more fire DMG.

These builds can keep up, but aren't the same as what (for Xbox) it would be players like Lexxy, like parallax, like Gessner, like Khan, like every other player that you know who I'm talking about that stand in duel spots, runs.

If I win against them it's because I played better than perfect and got a bit lucky. And holy #$&+ do you get insane levels of hate (not the first 4) if you do manage to win. For as good as they are they sure are MEAN (even when they win!)

Which is very surprising imo. You'd think these players would cope with the very rare loss better...

I went off tangent.. ANYWAY... I enjoy these builds and never claim to be the best

Adenoma

@Waffennacht , unfortunately I'm on PC. Though @Lexxypwns did make the jump back to PC!

A_G_G_R_O

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HiImRex

anybody that understands this game looked at patch notes for fortified brass and understood instantly what it can and can't do for you

sorry you're not special

didn't read the encyclopedic chapters you wrote in response but I look forward to not reading part 2 of your 100 part self-promotion autobiography

casparian

HiImRex wrote: »

anybody that understands this game looked at patch notes for fortified brass and understood instantly what it can and can't do for you

sorry you're not special

didn't read the encyclopedic chapters you wrote in response but I look forward to not reading part 2 of your 100 part self-promotion autobiography

Grow up man.

Waffennacht

HiImRex wrote: »

anybody that understands this game looked at patch notes for fortified brass and understood instantly what it can and can't do for you

sorry you're not special

didn't read the encyclopedic chapters you wrote in response but I look forward to not reading part 2 of your 100 part self-promotion autobiography

Thank you for taking the time to comment, your opinions have been duly noted.

Adenoma

Hey, for some folks reading is hard and takes effort. I'm from Kentucky and we get a lot of that here.

A_G_G_R_O

Adenoma wrote: »

Hey, for some folks reading is hard and takes effort. I'm from Kentucky and we get a lot of that here.

You blue?

StaticWave

Waffennacht wrote: »

Or are you just stating that some inner circle of players that haven't posted on the forums have talked about it?

Some players used that build the moment patch went live but never made a build thread or video.

KingJ

StaticWave wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Or are you just stating that some inner circle of players that haven't posted on the forums have talked about it?

Some players used that build the moment patch went live but never made a build thread or video.

So tf what.Why does it matter to you so much you upset you didn't do it.

Mihael

Lol how did this nice build thread turn so toxic

Brutusmax1mus

StaticWave wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Or are you just stating that some inner circle of players that haven't posted on the forums have talked about it?

Some players used that build the moment patch went live but never made a build thread or video.

Wtf are you all giving him a hard time for? He's just sharing, never claimed anything, and is helpful too the community with well published posts. Why are you so toxic?

Minno

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

StaticWave wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Or are you just stating that some inner circle of players that haven't posted on the forums have talked about it?

Some players used that build the moment patch went live but never made a build thread or video.

Wtf are you all giving him a hard time for? He's just sharing, never claimed anything, and is helpful too the community with well published posts. Why are you so toxic?

Cause waffen typed "first" lol.

But seriously, people might have been letting this slide under the radar, but threads and discussions are always more meaningful for the community. Especially for players that are looking for more transparency in a game that has a history of letting things slip hidden or misdirected.

StaticWave

KingJ wrote: »

StaticWave wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Or are you just stating that some inner circle of players that haven't posted on the forums have talked about it?

Some players used that build the moment patch went live but never made a build thread or video.

So tf what.Why does it matter to you so much you upset you didn't do it.

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

StaticWave wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Or are you just stating that some inner circle of players that haven't posted on the forums have talked about it?

Some players used that build the moment patch went live but never made a build thread or video.

Wtf are you all giving him a hard time for? He's just sharing, never claimed anything, and is helpful too the community with well published posts. Why are you so toxic?

Nothing in my post was toxic. I simply answered his question?

Adenoma

I think the point is that nobody cares who did it first. This is the first post (at least to my knowledge and I'm not going to invest a lot of time looking) that talks about a stamplar wearing brass fortress. There seems to be an angry and vocal minority about some manufactured injustice or faux pas.

No. Pretty much nobody from Kentucky is blue. But if you ever want to have an informed discussion about genomics and Appalachian founder effects I would be happy to chat you up. I'm pretty sure that you just meant it in a dull, weakly pedantic way and that conversation would be pretty one-sided.

Thogard

Have you tried using impreg instead?

My issue with this build is that it relies on damage mitigation through resists... which means that in order to use one of your two five pieces, you have to get hit...

But you don’t have a shield on your backbar, which means you can only tap block at most to avoid a dizzy or a cfrag.. you’ll be very vulnerable to getting focused.

I’d like to see this build but with impreg armor instead, and run with well fitted trait on everything so you can dodge roll for days. It synergizes much better with medium armor.

The thing that makes heavy armor tanky isn’t the resist.. it’s that 10% extra healing and the constitution passive that allows extra purifies through the mag return.

This build just doesn’t seem to play to the Templar or the medium armor strengths imo.

I’d love to see you use impreg / well fitted instead and let us know how you think it compares

Minno

Thogard wrote: »

Have you tried using impreg instead?

My issue with this build is that it relies on damage mitigation through resists... which means that in order to use one of your two five pieces, you have to get hit...

But you don’t have a shield on your backbar, which means you can only tap block at most to avoid a dizzy or a cfrag.. you’ll be very vulnerable to getting focused.

I’d like to see this build but with impreg armor instead, and run with well fitted trait on everything so you can dodge roll for days. It synergizes much better with medium armor.

The thing that makes heavy armor tanky isn’t the resist.. it’s that 10% extra healing and the constitution passive that allows extra purifies through the mag return.

This build just doesn’t seem to play to the Templar or the medium armor strengths imo.

I’d love to see you use impreg / well fitted instead and let us know how you think it compares

Impreg would be solid for stamplars. Restoring focus + 2% into quick recovery = HA passive, 2500+1100= 3600 crit resists, 48% cheaper dodge roll let's you pick 20% block and 20% break free with potentially another 10-15% into dodge roll reduction. MA would give back missing Regen stats from running impreg.