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Response to the Veteran Hard Mode Asylum Sanctorium Trial Exploit - Nov. 10

  • Dont_do_drugs
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    damn i wanna know the names x)

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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    I'm glad to see ZOS is now taking the game as seriously as the players do. :) I hope this trend continues.
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  • Sigtric
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    lynog85 wrote: »
    Perma bans way too harsh imo. Zos are releasing unfinished content with these exploits only being possible because of THEM. I hope all accounts who done this get it overturned.

    You know the road crews clearly made unfinished roads because people could hop the curb and drive down the side walk to bypass traffic.



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  • usmcjdking
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    lol.

    Cheat at video game hurting neckbeard egos? Permaban.
    Repeatedly shout N****R in zone chat and reported by multiple accounts? NP bud keep raiding.

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  • LukosCreyden
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    Thanks! Personally, I'll never be able to get that skin (still wanting a dro-m'athra skin :sadface: ) but I appreciate you guys honoring the hard work legit runners have put in. <3
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  • xSkullfox
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    I'm glad to see ZOS is now taking the game as seriously as the players do. :) I hope this trend continues.

    Now they should ban the bots who farming around tamriel....
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  • xynode
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    Recently, a small number of players discovered a way to kill Saint Olms + 2 (Hard mode in Veteran Asylum Sanctorium) from safely outside his room where he could not attack them. This is not only unintended and an exploit, but it cheapens the time and work put in by players who have legitimately beat this fight and earn a very difficult achievement and reward. As a result, we have permanently banned all players – 34 accounts in all – who used the exploit to complete the kill and earn the special achievement and skin in this way. We will not be considering overturns for these account bans. They are permanent and final.

    We are working on a fix for this exploit, but we will not be able to deploy it until Monday at the earliest. We will be watching things closely over the weekend. After we deploy the fix on Monday, we will do another audit of kills for this fight. Be warned: we will permanently ban any additional players who use the exploit over the weekend.

    AWESOME!
    I don't care how many excuses people make, you KNOW when you are doing wrong! Exploiting/cheating is doing just that.
    I fully support this type of punishment for such actions and hope you guys continue to do this to exploiters in the future.
    Good job ZOS!


  • Vaoh
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    On a side note, I believe that the reason players did this was not only for the skin and the weapons, but mainly to sell runeboxes and skins.

    This has been why players sell the Dromathra and Fabrication Sheathe skins as well (although obviously through non exploit-related methods). Could we please fix this? Increase how many potions are provided per craft attempt from 4 to 10, and provide players with even more Undaunted Plunder the farther they get into a trial and for HM completes. If gear isn't made BoE then this is the way to do it. Spell/Weapon pots are ridiculously expensive for the majority of players to maintain.
    Edited by Vaoh on November 10, 2017 10:53PM
  • C4Bliss
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    Are the cheaters that glitched it on Xbox also getting banned or just on pc?
  • ARIES SERPICO
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    Found a bug
  • Turelus
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    C4Bliss wrote: »
    Are the cheaters that glitched it on Xbox also getting banned or just on pc?
    I believe this is in regards to those players. To my knowledge the abuse in question didn't happen on PC.
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  • Dont_do_drugs
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    On a side note, I believe that the reason players did this was not only for the skin and the weapons, but mainly to sell runeboxes and skins.

    This has been why players sell the Dromathra and Fabrication Sheathe skins as well (although obviously through non exploit-related methods). Could we please fix this? Increase how many potions are provided per craft attempt from 4 to 10, and provide players with even more Undaunted Plunder the farther they get into a trial and for HM completes. If gear isn't made BoE then this is the way to do it. Spell/Weapon pots are ridiculously expensive for the majority of players to maintain.

    sry, but nonsense meanwhile. the pots decreased in price already and the plunder even helps an inflation.

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  • Jaybe_Mawfaka
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    Rip
    Edited by Jaybe_Mawfaka on November 10, 2017 11:09PM
  • kyle.wilson
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    Finally!
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    I just hope its actually a perma-ban, and not reduced like the CE fiasco to a 3 day break.
  • Maikon
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    lynog85 wrote: »
    Perma bans way too harsh imo. Zos are releasing unfinished content with these exploits only being possible because of THEM. I hope all accounts who done this get it overturned.

    This sounds like someone who's knows they're about to get perma-banned.
  • Maikon
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    usmcjdking wrote: »
    lol.

    Cheat at video game hurting neckbeard egos? Permaban.
    Repeatedly shout N****R in zone chat and reported by multiple accounts? NP bud keep raiding.

    That's funny, since that's exactly what you do, but in whispers.

    That there is what's called hypocricy.
  • usmcjdking
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    Maikon wrote: »
    usmcjdking wrote: »
    lol.

    Cheat at video game hurting neckbeard egos? Permaban.
    Repeatedly shout N****R in zone chat and reported by multiple accounts? NP bud keep raiding.

    That's funny, since that's exactly what you do, but in whispers.

    That there is what's called hypocricy.

    @Maikon

    You are very welcome to report me then. Not like I care much though, since the likelihood that I would ever do such is approaching zero.
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  • Jaavaa
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    Don't ban your last players zos. XD
  • redspecter23
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    I like this new hardcore ZOS. I'm excited at the precedent this sets for other exploits found in the future. Hopefully this round of bannings will stick in the minds of players the next time something like this comes along.
  • HatchetHaro
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    Ouch. While the points made were valid, I feel that a permanent ban is way too harsh. Perhaps a month-long ban would fit better, just for this instance.

    Don't get me wrong; I'm not on the exploiters' side. I dislike exploits, but there have been plenty of instances where exploits have gone unfixed, such as the vRoM skip, and the more serious vMoL exploit had gone unpunished as well; this had given the community this brash mentality to exploit freely. This sudden acknowledgement of and punishment for a major exploit, while a huge step in the right direction, just feels way too sudden and overzealous.

    I have no qualms about future major exploits being perma-bannable, but this one should really serve as a warning first. RIP the time and effort spent in 34 accounts just for a bad decision to ruin it all.

    Hopefully ZOS will keep this up and continue to fix exploits. The one in vRoM, afaik, is still there.
    Edited by HatchetHaro on November 10, 2017 11:36PM
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  • GCVDJ11T
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    AMAZING! So happy to see this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • GCVDJ11T
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    Alcast wrote: »
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    Finally some rightful punishment thanks ZOS.

    Also for those that do not understand it: there is a HUGE difference between finding a bug and purposly abusing it.

    I agree 100%! On the PTS me and a tank friend of mine found that you could attack him through the closed door. Paul turned it in to Finn IMMEDIATELY. That is finding a bug and doing the right thing when you find it!

    I for one want to EARN my clear!
  • Elrosahir
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    Ouch. While the points made were valid, I feel that a permanent ban is way too harsh. Perhaps a month-long ban would fit better, just for this instance.

    Don't get me wrong; I'm not on the exploiters' side. I dislike exploits, but there have been plenty of instances where exploits have gone unfixed, such as the vRoM skip, and the more serious vMoL exploit had gone unpunished as well; this had given the community this brash mentality to exploit freely. This sudden acknowledgement of and punishment for a major exploit, while a huge step in the right direction, just feels way too sudden and overzealous.

    I have no qualms about future major exploits being perma-bannable, but this one should really serve as a warning first. RIP the time and effort spent in 34 accounts just for a bad decision to ruin it all.

    Hopefully ZOS will keep this up and continue to fix exploits. The one in vRoM, afaik, is still there.

    This, ZOS should also perma ban all old exploiters too that get 72h Ban.
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  • kwinter
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    I think this was an easy one for ZOS, since the players knew that it was clearly an exploit. Add the sell the run in zone chat was probably what sealed it.
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    I really think anyone truly upset over the perma-bans, has either been banned or will be soon enough.


  • br0steen
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    GCVDJ11T wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
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    Finally some rightful punishment thanks ZOS.

    Also for those that do not understand it: there is a HUGE difference between finding a bug and purposly abusing it.

    I agree 100%! On the PTS me and a tank friend of mine found that you could attack him through the closed door. Paul turned it in to Finn IMMEDIATELY. That is finding a bug and doing the right thing when you find it!

    I for one want to EARN my clear!

    Wait so they knew about it and didn't fix it before releasing it? Par for the course I suppose.
  • GCVDJ11T
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    br0steen wrote: »
    GCVDJ11T wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
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    Finally some rightful punishment thanks ZOS.

    Also for those that do not understand it: there is a HUGE difference between finding a bug and purposly abusing it.

    I agree 100%! On the PTS me and a tank friend of mine found that you could attack him through the closed door. Paul turned it in to Finn IMMEDIATELY. That is finding a bug and doing the right thing when you find it!

    I for one want to EARN my clear!

    Wait so they knew about it and didn't fix it before releasing it? Par for the course I suppose.

    No they fixed this in one of the releases on the PTS. That is how it pulls you in the door when someone agro's Olms. That is another way it seems.
    Edited by GCVDJ11T on November 10, 2017 11:59PM
  • waitwhat
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    Turelus wrote: »
    C4Bliss wrote: »
    Are the cheaters that glitched it on Xbox also getting banned or just on pc?
    I believe this is in regards to those players. To my knowledge the abuse in question didn't happen on PC.

    Hasn't the DLC only been out for FOUR DAYS on consoles?!

    If only these people spent their brainpower on real completions and not on discovering glitches, we'd have a lot more vMoL and vHoF progressions reaching completion.
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  • Recremen
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    Become ruined, exploiters!!
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