Jumping idiots

Rainraven

Hippie4927 wrote: »

Sometimes when going from point A to point B, I jump all the way there just because I can. Never even considered that it might annoy someone. Do I care? Nope!

Yeah, who knew anybody gave a damn if I jumped around for no particular reason? Jeez.

kargen27

For a while I would go into a house that I knew people would have to enter to finish a quest. I would jump on the bed just for fun. A lot of players ignored me some stopped and were probably wondering what I was trying to do or get to. A few joined in on the jumping and even had a couple play the drums while I was jumping.

I also used to play dead just outside the door you go through after killing a boss in a delve. When a player would come out I would jump up and see if they tried to attack me.

I waste a lot of time in this game but hey I have fun. I also see how high I can get in just about every tree I find and I'm not just talking about Skooma.

Shawn_PT

I don't find this to be annoying, but I suppose I don't pay enough attention to the people around me to actually notice or care what they are doing. In fact I find myself jumping like a fool when I'm logged into a character that is using the jester personality merely because the fact that they wiggle their arms around and burst out laughing every now and then amuses me.

It also amuses me when I run some dungeons with mostly-PvPer friends and they go around jumping like crazy. Hehe. Guys, jumping isn't going to stop the mobs from being able to hit you.

Hurbster

That's funny, I remember being a 'jumping idiot' in Morrowind to get my acrobatics up...

Inhuman003

first dodge roll, then heavy and light attacks now jumping what's next to be nerfed, sometimes people are just too picky.

idk

ClockworkCityBugs wrote: »

I had a conversation lately with one of my friends, he is a big fan of ES, but he hate ESO because its a MMO
when i asked him directly - why you wont try it? ESO has greate solo-player content too, very detailed quests, and such
he told:

- I wont see this jumping idiots(other players) around me

and its not the only one opinion i heard, i know other guys that thinking the same way about MMO games
I think its a big mistake and misunderstanding, but all my argumets havent any positive effects

what do you think about this, how to convince such ppl?

Not sure idiot is being applied correctly. Some people should not play MMOs if they get upset about such petty things.

LadyNalcarya

Wait. Are people really getting upset because they see someone else jumping around? Really? REALLY?
I have no words.

idk

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Wait. Are people really getting upset because they see someone else jumping around? Really? REALLY?
I have no words.

Only people looking desperately for something to complain about.

sevomd69

Maybe they think they'll get more DPS with jumping attacks...I see you Dark Souls & DC Universe Online...

Airyus

*adds space bar to all macros

Mureel

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

zenimax, please add a very high stamina cost to jumping. myself and many others simply hate seeing it.

Please add anti cry feature so that people bothered about inconsequential things can ignore them. Since they seem incapable of so doing on their own.

Anti jump seeing add on anyone? xD

ArchMikem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRq2u91g6Hg

Mureel

Tryxus wrote: »

It’s how I roll.

Mureel

CyborgPlatypus wrote: »

If you've played morrowind you should know jumping is mandatory. In fact I never stopped jumping.

Yep! Acrobatics lvl ftw!

Bhaal5

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/370210/should-jumping-during-combat-cost-stamina#latest

The jumping #ccbreakin4free have spoken

central_scrutinizer

I honestly can't even help jumping. I don't do it much in ESO but games where I primarily use first person it's muscle memory from years of bunnyhopping in quake and a few other games and I slip into the cadence when I get focused on fighting stuff.

Bevik

Should nerf jump, sprint, running aswell, maybe just enable the slow walk? Delete all mounts? And no more fast travel, no teleport, no wayshrines!!! Delete all the animations please!

Mureel

CyborgPlatypus wrote: »

If you've played morrowind you should know jumping is mandatory. In fact I never stopped jumping.

Yep! Acrobatics lvl ftw!

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Wait. Are people really getting upset because they see someone else jumping around? Really? REALLY?
I have no words.

Exactly! When we stand around whilst a raid leader explains some mechanic or w/e to new raiders to our tactics or whatever - everyone else is kinda bouncing to get going...well we often are

Mureel

My husband says to say: You’re ruining my immersion! I’m role playing an elf who identifies sexually as a kangaroo!

Mureel

He also says: (for those who think jumping needs nerf due to free CCbreak) I hate it when people say this - but l2p and gitgud.

Mureel

kargen27 wrote: »

For a while I would go into a house that I knew people would have to enter to finish a quest. I would jump on the bed just for fun. A lot of players ignored me some stopped and were probably wondering what I was trying to do or get to. A few joined in on the jumping and even had a couple play the drums while I was jumping.

I also used to play dead just outside the door you go through after killing a boss in a delve. When a player would come out I would jump up and see if they tried to attack me.

I waste a lot of time in this game but hey I have fun. I also see how high I can get in just about every tree I find and I'm not just talking about Skooma.

If there is a bed in a house - it’s being bounced on!

Girl_Number8

ClockworkCityBugs wrote: »

I had a conversation lately with one of my friends, he is a big fan of ES, but he hate ESO because its a MMO
when i asked him directly - why you wont try it? ESO has greate solo-player content too, very detailed quests, and such
he told:

- I wont see this jumping idiots(other players) around me

and its not the only one opinion i heard, i know other guys that thinking the same way about MMO games
I think its a big mistake and misunderstanding, but all my argumets havent any positive effects

what do you think about this, how to convince such ppl?

Well imo jumping is fun and I am a happy person usually, so I likes to jump. I don't just jump in cyro, I twerk. The only thing I don't like is when guys do push-ups on my dead character, that should have a stamina increase.

Lieblingsjunge

It's the era of "Everything is racist/offensive/harassment/rude/negative, I'm always offended by something". Wish I would say I'm surprised someone complains about jumping.

I play PvP sometimes - and I would be stuck so many times kiting, if I didn't jump. + I kinda like jumping. It becamse a habit. Just like never standing still(whether pve or pvp) became a habit, although some PvEers label it as "A bad habit from PvP".

SirMewser

ClockworkCityBugs wrote: »

I had a conversation lately with one of my friends, he is a big fan of ES, but he hate ESO because its a MMO
when i asked him directly - why you wont try it? ESO has greate solo-player content too, very detailed quests, and such
he told:

- I wont see this jumping idiots(other players) around me

and its not the only one opinion i heard, i know other guys that thinking the same way about MMO games
I think its a big mistake and misunderstanding, but all my argumets havent any positive effects

what do you think about this, how to convince such ppl?

WacArnold

Lol at this, are you serious?

Izaki

Derra wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

It doesn't affect me playing the game, I just ignore them, but I do automatically assume that players who jump around the whole time are at the bottom end of the age scale for gaming.

Never thought about actual gameplay relevance in jumping?

^ This. Jumping is pretty useful in a lot of situations.

You can simply cover more ground by jumping and while using abilities at the same time, than just running and using abilities. You also enlarge your field of view, etc.

On consoles, without Elite controllers, you HAVE to jump if you want to keep moving while barswapping (yes the button layout is kinda awkward on controllers), since you have to move the left joystick and you barswap with the same thumb.

Sixty5

In a lot of other games turning tended to take time due to the way they handled ground friction. Jumping would circumnavigate that, allowing players to react more quickly. Reflexively tapping space bar then became a habit.

It also tends to be something to do while waiting. Personally I tend to tap WASD in quick succession to spin around in circles.

Additionally on mounts at least you can get stam ticks while jumping, so it pays to sprint + jump a bunch to try and keep your stam pool up to prevent accidents.

Izaki

Tandor wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

It doesn't affect me playing the game, I just ignore them, but I do automatically assume that players who jump around the whole time are at the bottom end of the age scale for gaming.

Never thought about actual gameplay relevance in jumping?

I'm not likely to confuse an idiot jumping in circles in a delve waiting for the boss to spawn with a sensible player trying to jump up a cliff-side. I don't PvP in ESO so if there's actual gameplay relevance in jumping in Cyrodiil that is more mature than teabagging then I wouldn't have seen it anyway.

I'm going to give a PvE example of jumping usefulness then vMA speed run on any stamina class. When you've prepared a portal spawn with your ground DoTs, since you're melee for the most part, you often need to get to a portal on the other side of the map (especially on the first and 4th arenas). Sprinting then jumping gives you A LOT of momentum and you end up covering more distance and using up less stamina than if you simply sprinted up to the portal spawn you wanted to focus on. Another example is the 3rd arena: same technique, sprint then jump over the electrified water all the while firing off Poison Injections on the other mobs.

But yeah, bottom line is, jumping conserves momentum allowing you to move at full speed while using abilities than would normaly slow you down, so it is useful. And of course, jumping is free unlike sprinting, so instead of sprinting towards to your target the whole way, jump (which not only doesn't use stamina and covers more ground, but also allows you to fire off abilities without losing any speed at all).

Ulfgarde

If you sprint and jump, you can retain a ton of momentum from your spring speed by jumping. You can jump successively to retain momentum for prolonged periods to aid positioning and kiting in PvP. The same applies for roll-dodging and jumping, and it works even after being snared.

It is actually difficult to pull off in succession because of latency / uneven surfaces, but usually you can get quite a bit of speed from 1 or 2 jumps in the right direction (especially at a downhill slope).

There are other utilities, but that is just one example. Plus, old habits die hard.

ArchMikem

Izaki wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

It doesn't affect me playing the game, I just ignore them, but I do automatically assume that players who jump around the whole time are at the bottom end of the age scale for gaming.

Never thought about actual gameplay relevance in jumping?

^ This. Jumping is pretty useful in a lot of situations.

You can simply cover more ground by jumping and while using abilities at the same time, than just running and using abilities. You also enlarge your field of view, etc.

On consoles, without Elite controllers, you HAVE to jump if you want to keep moving while barswapping (yes the button layout is kinda awkward on controllers), since you have to move the left joystick and you barswap with the same thumb.

No? I move forward with the left thumbstick and just bring my right thumb over to barswap. Cant turn, but i can still keep moving around.